Do Conservatives Believe In Social Darwinism?

The Bible tells you that in specific, Darwin is the spiritual father of Karl Marx?

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The Bible tells you that in specific, Darwin is the spiritual father of Karl Marx?

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No! The Bible exposes Darwin's theory to be a lie. Richard Wurmbrand's book Marx & Satan identifies Darwin as the Spiritual father of Marx. Here you go!

Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the entire Book by Wurmbrand - I had to look it up for you - here is the part that addresses Darwin as the Spiritual Father of Marx. It took me a while to read through it!

What was the specific contribution of Marx to Satan's
plan for mankind?

The Bible teaches that God created man in His own
image (Genesis 1:26). Up to the time of Marx, man
continued to be considered as "the crown of creation."
Marx was Satan's chosen tool to make man lose his
self-esteem, his conviction that he comes from high
places and is meant to return to them. Marxism is the
first systematic and detailed philosophy which drasti-
cally reduces the notion of man.

According to Marx, man is primarily a belly which
has to be filled and refilled constantly. The prevailing
interests of man are economic in nature; he produces in
order to satisfy his needs. For this purpose, he enters
into social relationships with others. This is the basis of
society, what Marx calls the infrastructure. Marriage,
love, art, science, religion, philosophy, everything other
than the needs of the belly, are all superstructure, deter-
mined in the last analysis by the state of the belly.

No wonder Marx praised Darwin's book The Descent of Man,
another masterstroke which makes men
forget their divine origin and divine purpose. Darwin
said that man springs from the animal world.

Man was dethroned by these two. Satan could not
dethrone God, so he devalued man. Man was shown to
be the progeny of animals and a mere servant to his
intestines.

It is a strange coincidence that the nineteenth cen-
tury gave the world three leading personalities opposed
to Christianity, all bearing the name of Charles: Karl
(German for Charles) Marx, Charles Darwin, and the
French poet Charles Baudelaire. The latter wrote in
"Abel and Cain":

Race of Cain, ascend to heaven
And throw God to the earth.

Marx wrote to Ferdinand Lassalle on January 16,
1861, "Darwin's book is very important and serves me
as a basis in the natural sciences for the historical class
struggle."

Marx's son-in-law, Paul Lafargue, in Socialism and
the Intellectuals, says,

When Darwin published his Origin of Species, he took away
from God his role as creator in the organic world, as Frank-
lin has despoiled him of his thunderbolt.

(It was not Darwin's original intent to harm religion.
He had written, "There is a grandeur in this view of
life, with its several powers, having been originally
breathed into a few forms or into one." In order to
make his position more emphatic, Darwin inserted the
phrase "by the Creator" after "breathed" in the second



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edition. It remained there in all the succeeding editions
he published.)

Later Freud would complete the work of these two
giants, reducing man basically to a sex urge, sometimes
sublimated in politics, art, or religion. It was the Swiss
psychologist Carl Gustav Jung who returned to the
Biblical doctrine that the religious impulse is man's ba-
sic urge.

The age of Marx was a time of Satanist ferment in
many spheres of life. The Russian poet Sologub wrote,
"My father is the Devil." Another Russian poet, Briu-
sov, said, "I glorify equally the Lord and the Devil."

Marx was a child of the time that gave us Nietzsche
(Hitler's and Mussolini's favorite philosopher), Max
Stirner, an extreme anarchist, and Oscar Wilde, the first
theoretician of freedom for homosexuality, a vice which
today has met with acceptance even among the clergy.

Satanic forces prepared Russia for the victory of
Marxism. The time of the revolution was a period
when love, goodwill, and healthy feeling were consid-
ered mean and retrograde. Girls hid their innocence
and husbands their faithfulness. Destruction was
praised as good taste, neurasthenia as the sign of a fine
mind. This was the theme of new writers who burst on
the scene out of obscurity. Men invented vices and
perversions, and were fastidious in their avoidance of
being thought moral.

How was it that Stalin became a revolutionist after
reading Darwin? 1 As a student in an Orthodox semi-
nary, he obtained from Darwin the concept that we are
not creatures of God, but the result of an evolution in
which ruthless competition reigns. It is only the strong-



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est and most cruel who survive. He learned that moral
and religious criteria play no role in nature and that
man is as much a part of nature as a fish or an ape.
Long live ruthlessness and cruelty!

Darwin had written a scientific book setting forth
his theory of origins. It had no economic or political
implications. But though many might go so far as to
concede that God created the world through a long
process of evolution, the end result of Darwin's theory
has been the killing of tens of millions of innocents. He
therefore became the spiritual father of the greatest
mass-murderer in history.

Beyond the intellectual turmoil of the nineteenth
century can be traced the influence of the French Rev-
olution, which was spiritually very much akin to the
Russian cataclysm of the twentieth century.

During the upheaval in France, Anarchasis Clootz, a
leading French revolutionary and Illuminatus, declared
himself to be "the personal enemy of Jesus Christ." He
proclaimed before the Convention of November 17,
1792, "The people is the sovereign and the god of the
world. . . . Only fools believe in any other God, in a
Supreme Being." The Convention then issued a decree
proclaiming "the nullification of all religions."

For those of us who take seriously the words of the
Lord's Prayer, "Deliver us from evil," the meaning is
clear: we implore a loving God to protect us and soci-
ety around us from false doctrine, from pernicious art
that accustoms us to evil under the guise of beauty, and
from immorality in life. Then we need have no fear of
the Devil's snares.

You have a choice: Do you want to become like the
Devil, cruel and vicious, or like Jesus, the God-man of
holy love and peace?

Just an FYI, Jeri.

A good friend of Darwin was a reverend who wrote a book on capitalism expounding how corporations either adapt to changing market conditions or go out of business. Darwin acknowledged that he used this as the basis for his theory of evolution on how species must adapt to changing environments or die out.

So Evolution is just another kind of capitalism.
That will make Jeri flee the thread.

I just answered it. But I do have work to do today. Do you want to take my place and I'll sit here and continue to write? On that note - I have to go now. I'll look for any further replies from De later on - God willing.
Thanks for the offer but no, I have no interest in hanging out on the street and bitching at people that believe differently than I believe.

Enjoy yourself.

Oh irony thy name is Ravtard.
 
Let's believe God that every single person on this board repents of their sins and calls upon Jesus Christ to be their Lord and Savior. That Satan loses every single worker he has on this board and slinks away in utter defeat! That is my prayer for this board! That includes PMH, Ravi, Mad Cabbie, Carla Danger, Steven_R, Capstone, GoddessAshtera, and all the rest of them.
Why don't you keep your Christian bullshit to yourself little man. Live your faith, don't talk it to death.

As far as I'm concerned, you are the one who does the work of the Evil One, you just don't know it. That's the trick.
 
Let's believe God that every single person on this board repents of their sins and calls upon Jesus Christ to be their Lord and Savior. That Satan loses every single worker he has on this board and slinks away in utter defeat! That is my prayer for this board! That includes PMH, Ravi, Mad Cabbie, Carla Danger, Steven_R, Capstone, GoddessAshtera, and all the rest of them.
Why don't you keep your Christian bullshit to yourself little man. Live your faith, don't talk it to death.

As far as I'm concerned, you are the one who does the work of the Evil One, you just don't know it. That's the trick.

Oh look another progressives screeching to shut someone up.
 
Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the most feared book - Communists loathe this book - it exposes them - the greatest book ever written about Marx bar none, Ravi. Read it and learn the truth about Marx. It might even change your mind about the direction you are headed in. (wrong way )
Marx is dead and communism is on its way out.

Who will you fear after that? Oh, right. Catholics.

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.
What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

So you fear death? That is your biggest fear, PMH? I can't blame you. If I were living without Jesus Christ I would fear death too.

There is a solution to that, you know. You can repent of your sins and call upon Jesus Christ to save you.
I don't fear death. I'm not a child who believes in a faith fit only for fools, slaves, and children.
 
Let's believe God that every single person on this board repents of their sins and calls upon Jesus Christ to be their Lord and Savior. That Satan loses every single worker he has on this board and slinks away in utter defeat! That is my prayer for this board! That includes PMH, Ravi, Mad Cabbie, Carla Danger, Steven_R, Capstone, GoddessAshtera, and all the rest of them.
Why don't you keep your Christian bullshit to yourself little man. Live your faith, don't talk it to death.

As far as I'm concerned, you are the one who does the work of the Evil One, you just don't know it. That's the trick.

Oh look another progressives screeching to shut someone up.
About his Christian bullshit, yeah, shut the fuck and leave it at church. He doesn't want me trying to save his soul through whatever I believe in now does he?
 
Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the most feared book - Communists loathe this book - it exposes them - the greatest book ever written about Marx bar none, Ravi. Read it and learn the truth about Marx. It might even change your mind about the direction you are headed in. (wrong way )
Marx is dead and communism is on its way out.

Who will you fear after that? Oh, right. Catholics.

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.
What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

So you fear death? That is your biggest fear, PMH? I can't blame you. If I were living without Jesus Christ I would fear death too.

There is a solution to that, you know. You can repent of your sins and call upon Jesus Christ to save you.
I don't fear death. I'm not a child who believes in a faith fit only for fools, slaves, and children.

What a telling statement.
 
Let's believe God that every single person on this board repents of their sins and calls upon Jesus Christ to be their Lord and Savior. That Satan loses every single worker he has on this board and slinks away in utter defeat! That is my prayer for this board! That includes PMH, Ravi, Mad Cabbie, Carla Danger, Steven_R, Capstone, GoddessAshtera, and all the rest of them.
Why don't you keep your Christian bullshit to yourself little man. Live your faith, don't talk it to death.

As far as I'm concerned, you are the one who does the work of the Evil One, you just don't know it. That's the trick.

Oh look another progressives screeching to shut someone up.
About his Christian bullshit, yeah, shut the fuck and leave it at church. He doesn't want me trying to save his soul through whatever I believe in now does he?

No. We are not obliged to leave it at church.

If you don't like it, you may leave.
 
Let's believe God that every single person on this board repents of their sins and calls upon Jesus Christ to be their Lord and Savior. That Satan loses every single worker he has on this board and slinks away in utter defeat! That is my prayer for this board! That includes PMH, Ravi, Mad Cabbie, Carla Danger, Steven_R, Capstone, GoddessAshtera, and all the rest of them.
Why don't you keep your Christian bullshit to yourself little man. Live your faith, don't talk it to death.

As far as I'm concerned, you are the one who does the work of the Evil One, you just don't know it. That's the trick.

Oh look another progressives screeching to shut someone up.
About his Christian bullshit, yeah, shut the fuck and leave it at church. He doesn't want me trying to save his soul through whatever I believe in now does he?

No. We are not obliged to leave it at church.

If you don't like it, you may leave.
If I don't like it I can tell you that your faith is utter bullshit so keep it to yourself. You don't have to of course but you aren't making any converts callings liberals scum on the Internet now are you my little Jesus-freak?

If you want people to respect your faith then know it and live it, don't talk it and bother people who can't stand to hear you self-righteous assholes lord it over us, pun intended.
 
Let's believe God that every single person on this board repents of their sins and calls upon Jesus Christ to be their Lord and Savior. That Satan loses every single worker he has on this board and slinks away in utter defeat! That is my prayer for this board! That includes PMH, Ravi, Mad Cabbie, Carla Danger, Steven_R, Capstone, GoddessAshtera, and all the rest of them.
Why don't you keep your Christian bullshit to yourself little man. Live your faith, don't talk it to death.

As far as I'm concerned, you are the one who does the work of the Evil One, you just don't know it. That's the trick.

Oh look another progressives screeching to shut someone up.
About his Christian bullshit, yeah, shut the fuck and leave it at church. He doesn't want me trying to save his soul through whatever I believe in now does he?

No. We are not obliged to leave it at church.

If you don't like it, you may leave.
If I don't like it I can tell you that your faith is utter bullshit so keep it to yourself. You don't have to of course but you aren't making any converts callings liberals scum on the Internet now are you my little Jesus-freak?

Liberals are scum, but that's a separate issue from this one.

Yes you can tell me anything you like, as long as it isn't a threat. You loons have a hard time telling the difference between oppression and liberty.and you don't recognize any rights except your own.

That's what makes you disgusting.
 
Marx is dead and communism is on its way out.

Who will you fear after that? Oh, right. Catholics.

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.
What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

So you fear death? That is your biggest fear, PMH? I can't blame you. If I were living without Jesus Christ I would fear death too.

There is a solution to that, you know. You can repent of your sins and call upon Jesus Christ to save you.
I don't fear death. I'm not a child who believes in a faith fit only for fools, slaves, and children.

What a telling statement.
That tends to happen when the truths are presented. You bow down and make yourself a servant for the chance to beat death. I bow to no man or God. Carry on.
 
I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.
What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

So you fear death? That is your biggest fear, PMH? I can't blame you. If I were living without Jesus Christ I would fear death too.

There is a solution to that, you know. You can repent of your sins and call upon Jesus Christ to save you.
I don't fear death. I'm not a child who believes in a faith fit only for fools, slaves, and children.

What a telling statement.
That tends to happen when the truths are presented. You bow down and make yourself a servant for the chance to beat death. I bow to no man or God. Carry on.

Oh, I imagine you do bow to some men. If you don't, then you're a psycopath. Which I tend to think most true progressives are, anyway. They see no god aside from themselves, and they definitely view themselves in that light. Everybody else falls into the "slave" or "child" or "fool" category...without worth and disposable.

And you will bow to God.
 
Was that the same reverend that led him to Jesus Christ on his death bed? I'm told it was a woman evangelist who converted him - he did repent of his lie of evolution at that time.

That was debunked by Darwin's children.

The "Lady Hope Story", first published in 1915, claimed that Darwin had reverted to Christianity on his sickbed. The claims were rejected by Darwin's children and have been dismissed as false by historians.[93]

Religious views of Charles Darwin - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Darwin was an agnostic. No one "converted" him on his "deathbed". Ironically Darwin was buried in Westminster Abbey in order to honor his contribution to science.

Why is it fitting that Charles Darwin is buried in Westminster Abbey

It may seem ironic that both Charles Darwin and Charles Lyell are buried in the nave of Westminster Abbey, formally known as London’s Collegiate Church of St Peter at Westminster. They are there, honored in particular for their accomplishments in science. It is fitting, for they have had as so much influence on modern Christian theology just as they have had on modern science. Nature, in an editorial (October, 2009), commented on reactions to Darwin.

In England, for example, the Church reacted badly to Darwin’s theory, going so far as to say that to believe it was to imperil your soul. But the notion that Darwin’s ideas ‘killed’ God and were a threat to religion was by no means the universal response in the nineteenth century. . . . [F]rom Egypt to India, China and Japan, many religious scholars embraced Darwin's ideas, often showing how their own schools of thought had anticipated the notion of evolution.

-Editorial from Nature, Volume 461 Number 7268

It is true: some in the Church reacted badly. This was particularly so in the Church of England, part of the Anglican Communion. This is "the Church,” in particular, to which the editors of Nature were is seems referring. But the editors of Nature overstated what happened. Darwin’s theory was more of a culture shock than a religious shock. The distinction is important. It was more about resistance to change than an inability to accommodate evolution within Christianity.

Darwin, after a choral funeral service in the Abbey, was buried in a prominent place in the church’s nave at the request of William Spottiswoode, the president of the Royal Society, Britain’s academy of science. The suggestion was warmly welcomed. Darwin, truly a humble agnostic, was very much admired, and his theory accepted by many in the church including, Harvey Goodwin, the bishop of Carlisle, who on the Sunday following Darwin’s funeral in a sermon preached in the abbey, said:

It would have been unfortunate if anything had occurred to give weight and currency to the foolish notion which some have diligently propagated, but for which Mr Darwin was not responsible, that there is a necessary conflict between a knowledge of Nature and a belief in God….
 
Why don't you keep your Christian bullshit to yourself little man. Live your faith, don't talk it to death.

As far as I'm concerned, you are the one who does the work of the Evil One, you just don't know it. That's the trick.

Oh look another progressives screeching to shut someone up.
About his Christian bullshit, yeah, shut the fuck and leave it at church. He doesn't want me trying to save his soul through whatever I believe in now does he?

No. We are not obliged to leave it at church.

If you don't like it, you may leave.
If I don't like it I can tell you that your faith is utter bullshit so keep it to yourself. You don't have to of course but you aren't making any converts callings liberals scum on the Internet now are you my little Jesus-freak?

Liberals are scum, but that's a separate issue from this one.

Yes you can tell me anything you like, as long as it isn't a threat. You loons have a hard time telling the difference between oppression and liberty.and you don't recognize any rights except your own.

That's what makes you disgusting.
The ones who want all the rights are you and your kind, and you're pissed because suddenly other people have rights now and you can't just start every damn public event with a Christian prayer. It's not just Jesus any more and that bugs the fuck out of you. Suddenly you are just one of many religions, and no better or worse.
 
They believe in Inequality, which they are just fine with accept for bitching night and day about the government, while happily cashing the checks it sends them.
Being opposed to inequality is like being opposed to death. Both are facts of nature. Your feelings about them simply aren't relevant.
 
Oh look another progressives screeching to shut someone up.
About his Christian bullshit, yeah, shut the fuck and leave it at church. He doesn't want me trying to save his soul through whatever I believe in now does he?

No. We are not obliged to leave it at church.

If you don't like it, you may leave.
If I don't like it I can tell you that your faith is utter bullshit so keep it to yourself. You don't have to of course but you aren't making any converts callings liberals scum on the Internet now are you my little Jesus-freak?

Liberals are scum, but that's a separate issue from this one.

Yes you can tell me anything you like, as long as it isn't a threat. You loons have a hard time telling the difference between oppression and liberty.and you don't recognize any rights except your own.

That's what makes you disgusting.
The ones who want all the rights are you and your kind, and you're pissed because suddenly other people have rights now and you can't just start every damn public event with a Christian prayer. It's not just Jesus any more and that bugs the fuck out of you. Suddenly you are just one of many religions, and no better or worse.

As I said.

You think the only ones who should have any *rights* are progressive lunatics.

Too bad.

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What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

So you fear death? That is your biggest fear, PMH? I can't blame you. If I were living without Jesus Christ I would fear death too.

There is a solution to that, you know. You can repent of your sins and call upon Jesus Christ to save you.
I don't fear death. I'm not a child who believes in a faith fit only for fools, slaves, and children.

What a telling statement.
That tends to happen when the truths are presented. You bow down and make yourself a servant for the chance to beat death. I bow to no man or God. Carry on.

Oh, I imagine you do bow to some men. If you don't, then you're a psycopath. Which I tend to think most true progressives are, anyway. They see no god aside from themselves, and they definitely view themselves in that light. Everybody else falls into the "slave" or "child" or "fool" category...without worth and disposable.

And you will bow to God.
No Sweetcheeks, there is no god as far as anyone knows, and the world works exactly as you would expect to if he was nothing more than the creation of men trying to find answers to question that have none. You accept those answer and that comforts you. It gives your life meaning when it actually doesn't have any. That's all.
 
They believe in Inequality, which they are just fine with accept for bitching night and day about the government, while happily cashing the checks it sends them.
Being opposed to inequality is like being opposed to death. Both are facts of nature. Your feelings about them simply aren't relevant.

Yes, I teach my children right around age 10 that the quest for *fairness* is a futile one, and one they ought not to waste their time on. It's a juvenile obsession, the concept that whatever that person has, this person must also have, and whatever opportunities that person has must be provided to all these people.

Ridiculous.
 
So you fear death? That is your biggest fear, PMH? I can't blame you. If I were living without Jesus Christ I would fear death too.

There is a solution to that, you know. You can repent of your sins and call upon Jesus Christ to save you.
I don't fear death. I'm not a child who believes in a faith fit only for fools, slaves, and children.

What a telling statement.
That tends to happen when the truths are presented. You bow down and make yourself a servant for the chance to beat death. I bow to no man or God. Carry on.

Oh, I imagine you do bow to some men. If you don't, then you're a psycopath. Which I tend to think most true progressives are, anyway. They see no god aside from themselves, and they definitely view themselves in that light. Everybody else falls into the "slave" or "child" or "fool" category...without worth and disposable.

And you will bow to God.
No Sweetcheeks, there is no god as far as anyone knows, and the world works exactly as you would expect to if he was nothing more than the creation of men trying to find answers to question that have none. You accept those answer and that comforts you. It gives your life meaning when it actually doesn't have any. That's all.

I know God exists. So you should stop lying. Lying will get you fewer stars in your heavenly crown.

Oh, wait, you're not getting one.
 
They believe in Inequality, which they are just fine with accept for bitching night and day about the government, while happily cashing the checks it sends them.
Being opposed to inequality is like being opposed to death. Both are facts of nature. Your feelings about them simply aren't relevant.
Hey dumbass, we work hard to fix both those issues you damn fool, at least a decent person does.. We didn't invent all this shit to keep people alive because death is a fact of life and we just let it be that way. Most people fight for every minute they can get so don't tell me I can't do the same for equality.
 

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