Do Conservatives Believe In Social Darwinism?

[The Rabbi]

What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

We aren't afraid of death. When we die, we get to go to Heaven, and that is a wonderful thing.

Christians look forward to the hereafter.

Unlike the hysterical and hateful anti-Christians.

Christianity worships death.
But anyway, no one has refuted the idea that no conservative ever believed in social darwinism, despite the fact that progressives have been spewing that lie for 75 years.

You tried to avoid this before but I saved it for you.

Yes I do have proof. Its in the dictionary.

Social darwinism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

"The theory was used from the late 19th century to support laissez-faire capitalism and political conservatism. "

Yes and its bullshit because there is zero evidence any conservative ever used the term. You'll have to try harder.

Fantasies of Social Darwinism The Weekly Standard

But here’s the interesting part: Almost no one else called himself a Social Darwinist either (including Spencer’s alleged co-conspirator William Graham Sumner). Simply put, there was no remotely serious intellectual movement—at least not in America or Britain—called Social Darwinism, and the evil views attributed to so-called Social Darwinists were not held by its alleged founders. Geoffrey Hodgson conducted a survey of all of the leading English-language academic journals from the mid-1800s until 1937 and couldn’t find any evidence that Spencer and Sumner were part of, never mind leaders of, an intellectual movement called “Social Darwinism.” Even more amazing: In the entire body of Anglo-American scholarly publications spanning more than a century, there is only one article that actually advocates—rather than criticizes—something called “Social Darwinism.” And it not only wasn’t written by Spencer, it doesn’t mention him either.​

This was laid out in a book by Jonah Goldberh Im reading now. Thanks.

 

[bripat9643]

Marx is dead and communism is on its way out.

Who will you fear after that? Oh, right. Catholics.

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.

What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

We aren't afraid of death. When we die, we get to go to Heaven, and that is a wonderful thing.

Christians look forward to the hereafter.

Unlike the hysterical and hateful anti-Christians.

Christianity worships death.
But anyway, no one has refuted the idea that no conservative ever believed in social darwinism, despite the fact that progressives have been spewing that lie for 75 years.

You tried to avoid this before but I saved it for you.

Yes I do have proof. Its in the dictionary.

Social darwinism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

"The theory was used from the late 19th century to support laissez-faire capitalism and political conservatism. "

You demonstrated you stupidity by thinking the dictionary is a credible source:

Fantasies of Social Darwinism The Weekly Standard

But here’s the interesting part: Almost no one else called himself a Social Darwinist either (including Spencer’s alleged co-conspirator William Graham Sumner). Simply put, there was no remotely serious intellectual movement—at least not in America or Britain—called Social Darwinism, and the evil views attributed to so-called Social Darwinists were not held by its alleged founders. Geoffrey Hodgson conducted a survey of all of the leading English-language academic journals from the mid-1800s until 1937 and couldn’t find any evidence that Spencer and Sumner were part of, never mind leaders of, an intellectual movement called “Social Darwinism.” Even more amazing: In the entire body of Anglo-American scholarly publications spanning more than a century, there is only one article that actually advocates—rather than criticizes—something called “Social Darwinism.” And it not only wasn’t written by Spencer, it doesn’t mention him either.​

 

[nodoginnafight]

And once again the far left shows they do not understand any meanings outside their far left programming..

See they have their own definition of a word that usually does not fit reality..

Once again the far right pretends that they did not eagerly grasp onto the findings of Darwinism to rationalize the theory that white man was superior.

So all those southern democrats in the 60's where really far right?

Thats correct. Its amazing how stupid conservatives are. The dems were conservatives until they all left and started voting republican.

Crudely formulated, but essentially on the mark.

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Essentially completely wrong. George Wallace was a progressive.

LOL - yeah and a tiger is really a lion.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Author of the Bell Curve is a conservative.

Charles Murray political scientist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"Charles Alan Murray (born 1943) is an American paleoconservative and paleolibertarian leaning political scientist, author, columnist, and pundit"

"He first became well known for his Losing Ground: American Social Policy 1950–1980 in 1984, which discussed the American welfare system.[3] He is best known for his controversial book The Bell Curve, co-authored with Richard Herrnstein in 1994, which argues that class and race are linked with intelligence.["

So is the coauthor

Richard Herrnstein 64 Dies - Backed Nature Over Nurture - NYTimes.com

"In the book, Dr. Herrnstein and his co-author, Charles Murray, a political analyst at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative research group in Washington, contend that I.Q. is linked to economic success, criminality and being dependent on welfare. They argue that since I.Q. is fixed by genetics, it cannot be changed meaningfully by environment or learning.

Yes, back in the days when Conservatives actually had a thirst for learning instead of demanding goshdarnit that the world is only 6000 years old.

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[The Rabbi]

Once again the far right pretends that they did not eagerly grasp onto the findings of Darwinism to rationalize the theory that white man was superior.

So all those southern democrats in the 60's where really far right?

Thats correct. Its amazing how stupid conservatives are. The dems were conservatives until they all left and started voting republican.

Crudely formulated, but essentially on the mark.

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Essentially completely wrong. George Wallace was a progressive.

LOL - yeah and a tiger is really a lion.

People laugh at what they dont understand. BUt yes, Wallace was a progressive. Expanded state government massively.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Actually these are Wurmbrands words -

Darwin had written a scientific book setting forth
his theory of origins. It had no economic or political
implications. But though many might go so far as to
concede that God created the world through a long
process of evolution, the end result of Darwin's theory
has been the killing of tens of millions of innocents. He
therefore became the spiritual father of the greatest
mass-murderer in history.Full text of Marx And Satan



_________________
Wurmbrand called Darwin the spiritual father to the greatest mass murderer in history - he is of course referring to Marx and the founding of Communism. I had to correct myself here as I was going from memory when stating how Wurmbrand put it. Is Communism entitled to the title greatest mass murderer in history? Most definitely. Communism has been responsible for more death than Hitler, than Mohammad. And quite possibly even the combining of the two would not add up to the mass murder caused by Communism since its inception.

Disagree. Capitalism is responsible for more deaths, murders, and genocides than anything in history.

Hmmmm - disagree. Communism and Fascism win that award.

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[The Rabbi]

Author of the Bell Curve is a conservative.

Charles Murray political scientist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"Charles Alan Murray (born 1943) is an American paleoconservative and paleolibertarian leaning political scientist, author, columnist, and pundit"

"He first became well known for his Losing Ground: American Social Policy 1950–1980 in 1984, which discussed the American welfare system.[3] He is best known for his controversial book The Bell Curve, co-authored with Richard Herrnstein in 1994, which argues that class and race are linked with intelligence.["

So is the coauthor

Richard Herrnstein 64 Dies - Backed Nature Over Nurture - NYTimes.com

"In the book, Dr. Herrnstein and his co-author, Charles Murray, a political analyst at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative research group in Washington, contend that I.Q. is linked to economic success, criminality and being dependent on welfare. They argue that since I.Q. is fixed by genetics, it cannot be changed meaningfully by environment or learning.

Yes, back in the days when Conservatives actually had a thirst for learning instead of demanding goshdarnit that the world is only 6000 years old.

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Sppouting more bullshit. A Wiki summation of their work is intellectually lazy. Then again, so are you, Herr Indolent.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the most feared book - Communists loathe this book - it exposes them - the greatest book ever written about Marx bar none, Ravi. Read it and learn the truth about Marx. It might even change your mind about the direction you are headed in. (wrong way )

Marx is dead and communism is on its way out.

Who will you fear after that? Oh, right. Catholics.

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.

What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

No way to talk to a lady. Jeri has the same right to her opinion as all the rest of us. That was uncalled for.

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[Statistikhengst]

Marx is dead and communism is on its way out.

Who will you fear after that? Oh, right. Catholics.

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.

What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

We aren't afraid of death. When we die, we get to go to Heaven, and that is a wonderful thing.

Christians look forward to the hereafter.

Unlike the hysterical and hateful anti-Christians.

Then why haven't you left yet?

Our job is to help as many other people attain salvation as possible.

We do our jobs. Then we go to heaven. God's time, not ours.

You are a Christian? With that mouth and vile behavior? Wow, must be a whole new brand of witnessing these days. ... oh well, carry on.

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[Statistikhengst]

Links!!!

Links!!!

Thomas Nelson Bibles

I prefer the KJV but take your pick. Look up Genesis 1:26.

The Bible tells you that in specific, Darwin is the spiritual father of Karl Marx?

Links!!!

Links!!!

Thomas Nelson Bibles

I prefer the KJV but take your pick. Look up Genesis 1:26.

The Bible tells you that in specific, Darwin is the spiritual father of Karl Marx?

No! The Bible exposes Darwin's theory to be a lie. Richard Wurmbrand's book Marx & Satan identifies Darwin as the Spiritual father of Marx. Here you go!

Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the entire Book by Wurmbrand - I had to look it up for you - here is the part that addresses Darwin as the Spiritual Father of Marx. It took me a while to read through it!

What was the specific contribution of Marx to Satan's
plan for mankind?

The Bible teaches that God created man in His own
image (Genesis 1:26). Up to the time of Marx, man
continued to be considered as "the crown of creation."
Marx was Satan's chosen tool to make man lose his
self-esteem, his conviction that he comes from high
places and is meant to return to them. Marxism is the
first systematic and detailed philosophy which drasti-
cally reduces the notion of man.

According to Marx, man is primarily a belly which
has to be filled and refilled constantly. The prevailing
interests of man are economic in nature; he produces in
order to satisfy his needs. For this purpose, he enters
into social relationships with others. This is the basis of
society, what Marx calls the infrastructure. Marriage,
love, art, science, religion, philosophy, everything other
than the needs of the belly, are all superstructure, deter-
mined in the last analysis by the state of the belly.

No wonder Marx praised Darwin's book The Descent of Man,
another masterstroke which makes men
forget their divine origin and divine purpose. Darwin
said that man springs from the animal world.

Man was dethroned by these two. Satan could not
dethrone God, so he devalued man. Man was shown to
be the progeny of animals and a mere servant to his
intestines.

It is a strange coincidence that the nineteenth cen-
tury gave the world three leading personalities opposed
to Christianity, all bearing the name of Charles: Karl
(German for Charles) Marx, Charles Darwin, and the
French poet Charles Baudelaire. The latter wrote in
"Abel and Cain":

Race of Cain, ascend to heaven
And throw God to the earth.

Marx wrote to Ferdinand Lassalle on January 16,
1861, "Darwin's book is very important and serves me
as a basis in the natural sciences for the historical class
struggle."

Marx's son-in-law, Paul Lafargue, in Socialism and
the Intellectuals, says,

When Darwin published his Origin of Species, he took away
from God his role as creator in the organic world, as Frank-
lin has despoiled him of his thunderbolt.

(It was not Darwin's original intent to harm religion.
He had written, "There is a grandeur in this view of
life, with its several powers, having been originally
breathed into a few forms or into one." In order to
make his position more emphatic, Darwin inserted the
phrase "by the Creator" after "breathed" in the second



MARX, DARWIN, AND REVOLUTION/ 85

edition. It remained there in all the succeeding editions
he published.)

Later Freud would complete the work of these two
giants, reducing man basically to a sex urge, sometimes
sublimated in politics, art, or religion. It was the Swiss
psychologist Carl Gustav Jung who returned to the
Biblical doctrine that the religious impulse is man's ba-
sic urge.

The age of Marx was a time of Satanist ferment in
many spheres of life. The Russian poet Sologub wrote,
"My father is the Devil." Another Russian poet, Briu-
sov, said, "I glorify equally the Lord and the Devil."

Marx was a child of the time that gave us Nietzsche
(Hitler's and Mussolini's favorite philosopher), Max
Stirner, an extreme anarchist, and Oscar Wilde, the first
theoretician of freedom for homosexuality, a vice which
today has met with acceptance even among the clergy.

Satanic forces prepared Russia for the victory of
Marxism. The time of the revolution was a period
when love, goodwill, and healthy feeling were consid-
ered mean and retrograde. Girls hid their innocence
and husbands their faithfulness. Destruction was
praised as good taste, neurasthenia as the sign of a fine
mind. This was the theme of new writers who burst on
the scene out of obscurity. Men invented vices and
perversions, and were fastidious in their avoidance of
being thought moral.

How was it that Stalin became a revolutionist after
reading Darwin? 1 As a student in an Orthodox semi-
nary, he obtained from Darwin the concept that we are
not creatures of God, but the result of an evolution in
which ruthless competition reigns. It is only the strong-



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est and most cruel who survive. He learned that moral
and religious criteria play no role in nature and that
man is as much a part of nature as a fish or an ape.
Long live ruthlessness and cruelty!

Darwin had written a scientific book setting forth
his theory of origins. It had no economic or political
implications. But though many might go so far as to
concede that God created the world through a long
process of evolution, the end result of Darwin's theory
has been the killing of tens of millions of innocents. He
therefore became the spiritual father of the greatest
mass-murderer in history.

Beyond the intellectual turmoil of the nineteenth
century can be traced the influence of the French Rev-
olution, which was spiritually very much akin to the
Russian cataclysm of the twentieth century.

During the upheaval in France, Anarchasis Clootz, a
leading French revolutionary and Illuminatus, declared
himself to be "the personal enemy of Jesus Christ." He
proclaimed before the Convention of November 17,
1792, "The people is the sovereign and the god of the
world. . . . Only fools believe in any other God, in a
Supreme Being." The Convention then issued a decree
proclaiming "the nullification of all religions."

For those of us who take seriously the words of the
Lord's Prayer, "Deliver us from evil," the meaning is
clear: we implore a loving God to protect us and soci-
ety around us from false doctrine, from pernicious art
that accustoms us to evil under the guise of beauty, and
from immorality in life. Then we need have no fear of
the Devil's snares.

You have a choice: Do you want to become like the
Devil, cruel and vicious, or like Jesus, the God-man of
holy love and peace?

Just an FYI, Jeri.

A good friend of Darwin was a reverend who wrote a book on capitalism expounding how corporations either adapt to changing market conditions or go out of business. Darwin acknowledged that he used this as the basis for his theory of evolution on how species must adapt to changing environments or die out.

So Evolution is just another kind of capitalism.

That was awesome. Never thought of it like that. [emoji23]

Ain't life wonderful sometimes?

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[Statistikhengst]

No! The Bible exposes Darwin's theory to be a lie. Richard Wurmbrand's book Marx & Satan identifies Darwin as the Spiritual father of Marx. Here you go!

Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the entire Book by Wurmbrand - I had to look it up for you - here is the part that addresses Darwin as the Spiritual Father of Marx. It took me a while to read through it!

What was the specific contribution of Marx to Satan's
plan for mankind?

The Bible teaches that God created man in His own
image (Genesis 1:26). Up to the time of Marx, man
continued to be considered as "the crown of creation."
Marx was Satan's chosen tool to make man lose his
self-esteem, his conviction that he comes from high
places and is meant to return to them. Marxism is the
first systematic and detailed philosophy which drasti-
cally reduces the notion of man.

According to Marx, man is primarily a belly which
has to be filled and refilled constantly. The prevailing
interests of man are economic in nature; he produces in
order to satisfy his needs. For this purpose, he enters
into social relationships with others. This is the basis of
society, what Marx calls the infrastructure. Marriage,
love, art, science, religion, philosophy, everything other
than the needs of the belly, are all superstructure, deter-
mined in the last analysis by the state of the belly.

No wonder Marx praised Darwin's book The Descent of Man,
another masterstroke which makes men
forget their divine origin and divine purpose. Darwin
said that man springs from the animal world.

Man was dethroned by these two. Satan could not
dethrone God, so he devalued man. Man was shown to
be the progeny of animals and a mere servant to his
intestines.

It is a strange coincidence that the nineteenth cen-
tury gave the world three leading personalities opposed
to Christianity, all bearing the name of Charles: Karl
(German for Charles) Marx, Charles Darwin, and the
French poet Charles Baudelaire. The latter wrote in
"Abel and Cain":

Race of Cain, ascend to heaven
And throw God to the earth.

Marx wrote to Ferdinand Lassalle on January 16,
1861, "Darwin's book is very important and serves me
as a basis in the natural sciences for the historical class
struggle."

Marx's son-in-law, Paul Lafargue, in Socialism and
the Intellectuals, says,

When Darwin published his Origin of Species, he took away
from God his role as creator in the organic world, as Frank-
lin has despoiled him of his thunderbolt.

(It was not Darwin's original intent to harm religion.
He had written, "There is a grandeur in this view of
life, with its several powers, having been originally
breathed into a few forms or into one." In order to
make his position more emphatic, Darwin inserted the
phrase "by the Creator" after "breathed" in the second



MARX, DARWIN, AND REVOLUTION/ 85

edition. It remained there in all the succeeding editions
he published.)

Later Freud would complete the work of these two
giants, reducing man basically to a sex urge, sometimes
sublimated in politics, art, or religion. It was the Swiss
psychologist Carl Gustav Jung who returned to the
Biblical doctrine that the religious impulse is man's ba-
sic urge.

The age of Marx was a time of Satanist ferment in
many spheres of life. The Russian poet Sologub wrote,
"My father is the Devil." Another Russian poet, Briu-
sov, said, "I glorify equally the Lord and the Devil."

Marx was a child of the time that gave us Nietzsche
(Hitler's and Mussolini's favorite philosopher), Max
Stirner, an extreme anarchist, and Oscar Wilde, the first
theoretician of freedom for homosexuality, a vice which
today has met with acceptance even among the clergy.

Satanic forces prepared Russia for the victory of
Marxism. The time of the revolution was a period
when love, goodwill, and healthy feeling were consid-
ered mean and retrograde. Girls hid their innocence
and husbands their faithfulness. Destruction was
praised as good taste, neurasthenia as the sign of a fine
mind. This was the theme of new writers who burst on
the scene out of obscurity. Men invented vices and
perversions, and were fastidious in their avoidance of
being thought moral.

How was it that Stalin became a revolutionist after
reading Darwin? 1 As a student in an Orthodox semi-
nary, he obtained from Darwin the concept that we are
not creatures of God, but the result of an evolution in
which ruthless competition reigns. It is only the strong-



86 / MARX &> SATAN

est and most cruel who survive. He learned that moral
and religious criteria play no role in nature and that
man is as much a part of nature as a fish or an ape.
Long live ruthlessness and cruelty!

Darwin had written a scientific book setting forth
his theory of origins. It had no economic or political
implications. But though many might go so far as to
concede that God created the world through a long
process of evolution, the end result of Darwin's theory
has been the killing of tens of millions of innocents. He
therefore became the spiritual father of the greatest
mass-murderer in history.

Beyond the intellectual turmoil of the nineteenth
century can be traced the influence of the French Rev-
olution, which was spiritually very much akin to the
Russian cataclysm of the twentieth century.

During the upheaval in France, Anarchasis Clootz, a
leading French revolutionary and Illuminatus, declared
himself to be "the personal enemy of Jesus Christ." He
proclaimed before the Convention of November 17,
1792, "The people is the sovereign and the god of the
world. . . . Only fools believe in any other God, in a
Supreme Being." The Convention then issued a decree
proclaiming "the nullification of all religions."

For those of us who take seriously the words of the
Lord's Prayer, "Deliver us from evil," the meaning is
clear: we implore a loving God to protect us and soci-
ety around us from false doctrine, from pernicious art
that accustoms us to evil under the guise of beauty, and
from immorality in life. Then we need have no fear of
the Devil's snares.

You have a choice: Do you want to become like the
Devil, cruel and vicious, or like Jesus, the God-man of
holy love and peace?

Just an FYI, Jeri.

A good friend of Darwin was a reverend who wrote a book on capitalism expounding how corporations either adapt to changing market conditions or go out of business. Darwin acknowledged that he used this as the basis for his theory of evolution on how species must adapt to changing environments or die out.

So Evolution is just another kind of capitalism.

That will make Jeri flee the thread.

I just answered it. But I do have work to do today. Do you want to take my place and I'll sit here and continue to write? On that note - I have to go now. I'll look for any further replies from De later on - God willing.

Thanks for the offer but no, I have no interest in hanging out on the street and bitching at people that believe differently than I believe.

Enjoy yourself.

Oh irony thy name is Ravtard.

Yes, Christianity in action??

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[Statistikhengst]

Why don't you keep your Christian bullshit to yourself little man. Live your faith, don't talk it to death.

As far as I'm concerned, you are the one who does the work of the Evil One, you just don't know it. That's the trick.

Oh look another progressives screeching to shut someone up.

About his Christian bullshit, yeah, shut the fuck and leave it at church. He doesn't want me trying to save his soul through whatever I believe in now does he?

No. We are not obliged to leave it at church.

If you don't like it, you may leave.

If I don't like it I can tell you that your faith is utter bullshit so keep it to yourself. You don't have to of course but you aren't making any converts callings liberals scum on the Internet now are you my little Jesus-freak?

Liberals are scum, but that's a separate issue from this one.

Yes you can tell me anything you like, as long as it isn't a threat. You loons have a hard time telling the difference between oppression and liberty.and you don't recognize any rights except your own.

That's what makes you disgusting.

More Christian witnessing! Now, what was the OP to this thread, again?

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[Asclepias]

I think I need to apologize to Statistheilhitler for accusing him of trying to derail my thread. Instead the Jesus-freaks have done it.

You should apologize more for your stupid assumption conservatives did not embrace social Darwinism whole heartedly.

You should apologize to the board for wasting their time with your idiotic comments.

You should apologize to the board for posting a ill conceived thread that was so easily debunked..

 

[Asclepias]

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.

What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

We aren't afraid of death. When we die, we get to go to Heaven, and that is a wonderful thing.

Christians look forward to the hereafter.

Unlike the hysterical and hateful anti-Christians.

Christianity worships death.
But anyway, no one has refuted the idea that no conservative ever believed in social darwinism, despite the fact that progressives have been spewing that lie for 75 years.

You tried to avoid this before but I saved it for you.

Yes I do have proof. Its in the dictionary.

Social darwinism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

"The theory was used from the late 19th century to support laissez-faire capitalism and political conservatism. "

Yes and its bullshit because there is zero evidence any conservative ever used the term. You'll have to try harder.

Your argument is the only thing bullshit. I can tell when you get upset.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the most feared book - Communists loathe this book - it exposes them - the greatest book ever written about Marx bar none, Ravi. Read it and learn the truth about Marx. It might even change your mind about the direction you are headed in. (wrong way )

Marx is dead and communism is on its way out.

Who will you fear after that? Oh, right. Catholics.

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.

What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

We aren't afraid of death. When we die, we get to go to Heaven, and that is a wonderful thing.

Christians look forward to the hereafter.

Unlike the hysterical and hateful anti-Christians.

Christianity worships death.
But anyway, no one has refuted the idea that no conservative ever believed in social darwinism, despite the fact that progressives have been spewing that lie for 75 years.

Hmmmmmmm - interesting.

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[Asclepias]

Actually these are Wurmbrands words -

Darwin had written a scientific book setting forth
his theory of origins. It had no economic or political
implications. But though many might go so far as to
concede that God created the world through a long
process of evolution, the end result of Darwin's theory
has been the killing of tens of millions of innocents. He
therefore became the spiritual father of the greatest
mass-murderer in history.Full text of Marx And Satan



_________________
Wurmbrand called Darwin the spiritual father to the greatest mass murderer in history - he is of course referring to Marx and the founding of Communism. I had to correct myself here as I was going from memory when stating how Wurmbrand put it. Is Communism entitled to the title greatest mass murderer in history? Most definitely. Communism has been responsible for more death than Hitler, than Mohammad. And quite possibly even the combining of the two would not add up to the mass murder caused by Communism since its inception.

Disagree. Capitalism is responsible for more deaths, murders, and genocides than anything in history.

Hmmmm - disagree. Communism and Fascism win that award.

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Lets tally up the the death count.

 

[Uncensored2008]

They believe in Inequality, which they are just fine with accept for bitching night and day about the government, while happily cashing the checks it sends them.

I'm a good guitar player.

Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton are great guitar players. It's inequality that they play better than I.

What would you do to stop that inequality?

Oh, and the SS lie is so fucking lame.

 

[Statistikhengst]

I think I need to apologize to Statistheilhitler for accusing him of trying to derail my thread. Instead the Jesus-freaks have done it.

Really, all I wanted was a definition of Conservatism, nothing more. I leave for a 90 minute appointment and come back to find an old time revival. Oy, Gewalt.

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[Asclepias]

They believe in Inequality, which they are just fine with accept for bitching night and day about the government, while happily cashing the checks it sends them.

I'm a good guitar player.

Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton are great guitar players. It's inequality that they play better than I.

What would you do to stop that inequality?

Oh, and the SS lie is so fucking lame.

Practice and get just as good as they are.

 

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Oh but I am addressing your topic. How in the world can anyone give a sure answer without knowing how you define Conservatism? The question is absolutely germain to this stimulating conversation!

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Fuck off

So, you are unable to define your own ideology, much less give historical context, it appears. Thank goodness your profession is hopefully not that of salesman, you would never have made a sale. Oy, Gewalt.

One last time: how do YOU define Conservatism? Without that information, a real debate is not possible.

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Go fuck yourself. You try to derail a thread with stupid talk. Conservatives are opposed to progressives. There. Now address the issue.

So, you can only describe Conservatism by declaring what it's against, but not describe what Conservatism is for? Does that mean that Conservatism is purely a knee-jerk reaction to Liberalism and that's that? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....

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No I cando all kinds of things. But generally speaking you have some idea what conservative means in this country, Herr Auslander.

Oh absolutely. However, your definition would interest me. I meant it sincerely.

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