Do Conservatives Believe In Social Darwinism?

[PaintMyHouse]

They believe in Inequality, which they are just fine with accept for bitching night and day about the government, while happily cashing the checks it sends them.

Being opposed to inequality is like being opposed to death. Both are facts of nature. Your feelings about them simply aren't relevant.

Yes, I teach my children right around age 10 that the quest for *fairness* is a futile one, and one they ought not to waste their time on. It's a juvenile obsession, the concept that whatever that person has, this person must also have, and whatever opportunities that person has must be provided to all these people.

Ridiculous.

What we fight for is a Level Playing Field. After that it's up to you. And you should have learned long ago that the only causes worth fighting for are the lost ones.

 

[Asclepias]

They believe in Inequality, which they are just fine with accept for bitching night and day about the government, while happily cashing the checks it sends them.

Being opposed to inequality is like being opposed to death. Both are facts of nature. Your feelings about them simply aren't relevant.

Yes, I teach my children right around age 10 that the quest for *fairness* is a futile one, and one they ought not to waste their time on. It's a juvenile obsession, the concept that whatever that person has, this person must also have, and whatever opportunities that person has must be provided to all these people.

Ridiculous.

Ah hell.....You procreated?

 

[The Rabbi]

Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the most feared book - Communists loathe this book - it exposes them - the greatest book ever written about Marx bar none, Ravi. Read it and learn the truth about Marx. It might even change your mind about the direction you are headed in. (wrong way )

Marx is dead and communism is on its way out.

Who will you fear after that? Oh, right. Catholics.

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.

What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

We aren't afraid of death. When we die, we get to go to Heaven, and that is a wonderful thing.

Christians look forward to the hereafter.

Unlike the hysterical and hateful anti-Christians.

Christianity worships death.
But anyway, no one has refuted the idea that no conservative ever believed in social darwinism, despite the fact that progressives have been spewing that lie for 75 years.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

For PMH:

Keep that Christian bullshit to yourself. If I was God I'd slay the lot of you. I gave you life and you waste it trying for an afterlife. What a bunch of ungrateful bastards who do nothing but pray to me to fix their problems for them. When was the last time your prayer was, God, thank you for everything, I want for nothing, and I hope you are having a wonderful day and that I'm doing you will as you wish me to. Oh, never? Right, knew that.

 

[Asclepias]

Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the most feared book - Communists loathe this book - it exposes them - the greatest book ever written about Marx bar none, Ravi. Read it and learn the truth about Marx. It might even change your mind about the direction you are headed in. (wrong way )

Marx is dead and communism is on its way out.

Who will you fear after that? Oh, right. Catholics.

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.

What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

We aren't afraid of death. When we die, we get to go to Heaven, and that is a wonderful thing.

Christians look forward to the hereafter.

Unlike the hysterical and hateful anti-Christians.

Christianity worships death.
But anyway, no one has refuted the idea that no conservative ever believed in social darwinism, despite the fact that progressives have been spewing that lie for 75 years.

You tried to avoid this before but I saved it for you.

Yes I do have proof. Its in the dictionary.

Social darwinism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

"The theory was used from the late 19th century to support laissez-faire capitalism and political conservatism. "

 

[The Rabbi]

I think I need to apologize to Statistheilhitler for accusing him of trying to derail my thread. Instead the Jesus-freaks have done it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

About his Christian bullshit, yeah, shut the fuck and leave it at church. He doesn't want me trying to save his soul through whatever I believe in now does he?

No. We are not obliged to leave it at church.

If you don't like it, you may leave.

If I don't like it I can tell you that your faith is utter bullshit so keep it to yourself. You don't have to of course but you aren't making any converts callings liberals scum on the Internet now are you my little Jesus-freak?

Liberals are scum, but that's a separate issue from this one.

Yes you can tell me anything you like, as long as it isn't a threat. You loons have a hard time telling the difference between oppression and liberty.and you don't recognize any rights except your own.

That's what makes you disgusting.

The ones who want all the rights are you and your kind, and you're pissed because suddenly other people have rights now and you can't just start every damn public event with a Christian prayer. It's not just Jesus any more and that bugs the fuck out of you. Suddenly you are just one of many religions, and no better or worse.

As I said.

You think the only ones who should have any *rights* are progressive lunatics.

Too bad.

No, I think the Christian gets no more rights and no more respect than anyone else. All are equal before the law, something you would never agree with.

 

[Asclepias]

I think I need to apologize to Statistheilhitler for accusing him of trying to derail my thread. Instead the Jesus-freaks have done it.

You should apologize more for your stupid assumption conservatives did not embrace social Darwinism whole heartedly.

 

[nodoginnafight]

No one calls himself or herself a social Darwinist. Like no one calls himself or herself a racist. It's a pejorative term.

They just make up a different word, but the sentiments are certainly out there.

 

[The Rabbi]

Marx is dead and communism is on its way out.

Who will you fear after that? Oh, right. Catholics.

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.

What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

We aren't afraid of death. When we die, we get to go to Heaven, and that is a wonderful thing.

Christians look forward to the hereafter.

Unlike the hysterical and hateful anti-Christians.

Christianity worships death.
But anyway, no one has refuted the idea that no conservative ever believed in social darwinism, despite the fact that progressives have been spewing that lie for 75 years.

You tried to avoid this before but I saved it for you.

Yes I do have proof. Its in the dictionary.

Social darwinism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

"The theory was used from the late 19th century to support laissez-faire capitalism and political conservatism. "

Yes and its bullshit because there is zero evidence any conservative ever used the term. You'll have to try harder.

 

[The Rabbi]

I think I need to apologize to Statistheilhitler for accusing him of trying to derail my thread. Instead the Jesus-freaks have done it.

You should apologize more for your stupid assumption conservatives did not embrace social Darwinism whole heartedly.

You should apologize to the board for wasting their time with your idiotic comments.

 

[bripat9643]

No one calls himself or herself a social Darwinist. Like no one calls himself or herself a racist. It's a pejorative term.

They just make up a different word, but the sentiments are certainly out there.

Sorry, but no one who believes in free enterprise believes people who can't compete should die. That's just plain stupid.

 

[Statistikhengst]

What a shame, we could maybe have actually had a dialogue. I meant the question quite sincerely, but if you are incapable of defining your own ideology, well, ok. Let's just sing Kumbayah in Duet. I'm on top. And breathe, and. ....



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No, I will not let you derail my thread with inane vapid shit about what "conservative" means, Herr Noodlenoggin. Either address the topic or start your own thread.

Oh but I am addressing your topic. How in the world can anyone give a sure answer without knowing how you define Conservatism? The question is absolutely germain to this stimulating conversation!

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Fuck off

So, you are unable to define your own ideology, much less give historical context, it appears. Thank goodness your profession is hopefully not that of salesman, you would never have made a sale. Oy, Gewalt.

One last time: how do YOU define Conservatism? Without that information, a real debate is not possible.

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Go fuck yourself. You try to derail a thread with stupid talk. Conservatives are opposed to progressives. There. Now address the issue.

So, you can only describe Conservatism by declaring what it's against, but not describe what Conservatism is for? Does that mean that Conservatism is purely a knee-jerk reaction to Liberalism and that's that? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....

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[nodoginnafight]

No one calls himself or herself a social Darwinist. Like no one calls himself or herself a racist. It's a pejorative term.

They just make up a different word, but the sentiments are certainly out there.

Sorry, but no one who believes in free enterprise believes people who can't compete should die. That's just plain stupid.

1) Never say never (or No one) there are always exceptions.

2) Death is not the goal.

 

[The Rabbi]

No one calls himself or herself a social Darwinist. Like no one calls himself or herself a racist. It's a pejorative term.

They just make up a different word, but the sentiments are certainly out there.

So what term do they use that means "social darwinism"?

Look at the "robber barons" (who were neither, btw). They established tons of charities and foundations to help poor people. If they were truly social darwinians they wouldnt have done that at all. The opposite.
But they were Christians and believed in Chritian charity and thus their endowments.

 

[Statistikhengst]

the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

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Sounds pretty darned Conservative to me!

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And once again the far left shows they do not understand any meanings outside their far left programming..

See they have their own definition of a word that usually does not fit reality..

Once again the far right pretends that they did not eagerly grasp onto the findings of Darwinism to rationalize the theory that white man was superior.

So all those southern democrats in the 60's where really far right?

Thats correct. Its amazing how stupid conservatives are. The dems were conservatives until they all left and started voting republican.

Crudely formulated, but essentially on the mark.

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[The Rabbi]

No, I will not let you derail my thread with inane vapid shit about what "conservative" means, Herr Noodlenoggin. Either address the topic or start your own thread.

Oh but I am addressing your topic. How in the world can anyone give a sure answer without knowing how you define Conservatism? The question is absolutely germain to this stimulating conversation!

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Fuck off

So, you are unable to define your own ideology, much less give historical context, it appears. Thank goodness your profession is hopefully not that of salesman, you would never have made a sale. Oy, Gewalt.

One last time: how do YOU define Conservatism? Without that information, a real debate is not possible.

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Go fuck yourself. You try to derail a thread with stupid talk. Conservatives are opposed to progressives. There. Now address the issue.

So, you can only describe Conservatism by declaring what it's against, but not describe what Conservatism is for? Does that mean that Conservatism is purely a knee-jerk reaction to Liberalism and that's that? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....

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No I cando all kinds of things. But generally speaking you have some idea what conservative means in this country, Herr Auslander.

 

[bripat9643]

I fear the LORD. I do not fear Catholics. That is ridiculous, Ravi. Only people who serve the devil live in fear, Ravi. You of all people should realize that.

What you fear is death you little pussy. That's why you cling to Jesus, your free Ticket to Heaven.

We aren't afraid of death. When we die, we get to go to Heaven, and that is a wonderful thing.

Christians look forward to the hereafter.

Unlike the hysterical and hateful anti-Christians.

Christianity worships death.
But anyway, no one has refuted the idea that no conservative ever believed in social darwinism, despite the fact that progressives have been spewing that lie for 75 years.

You tried to avoid this before but I saved it for you.

Yes I do have proof. Its in the dictionary.

Social darwinism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

"The theory was used from the late 19th century to support laissez-faire capitalism and political conservatism. "

Yes and its bullshit because there is zero evidence any conservative ever used the term. You'll have to try harder.

Fantasies of Social Darwinism The Weekly Standard

But here’s the interesting part: Almost no one else called himself a Social Darwinist either (including Spencer’s alleged co-conspirator William Graham Sumner). Simply put, there was no remotely serious intellectual movement—at least not in America or Britain—called Social Darwinism, and the evil views attributed to so-called Social Darwinists were not held by its alleged founders. Geoffrey Hodgson conducted a survey of all of the leading English-language academic journals from the mid-1800s until 1937 and couldn’t find any evidence that Spencer and Sumner were part of, never mind leaders of, an intellectual movement called “Social Darwinism.” Even more amazing: In the entire body of Anglo-American scholarly publications spanning more than a century, there is only one article that actually advocates—rather than criticizes—something called “Social Darwinism.” And it not only wasn’t written by Spencer, it doesn’t mention him either.​

 

[The Rabbi]

Sounds pretty darned Conservative to me!

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And once again the far left shows they do not understand any meanings outside their far left programming..

See they have their own definition of a word that usually does not fit reality..

Once again the far right pretends that they did not eagerly grasp onto the findings of Darwinism to rationalize the theory that white man was superior.

So all those southern democrats in the 60's where really far right?

Thats correct. Its amazing how stupid conservatives are. The dems were conservatives until they all left and started voting republican.

Crudely formulated, but essentially on the mark.

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Essentially completely wrong. George Wallace was a progressive.

 

[Statistikhengst]

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Darwin was the spiritual father of Karl Marx. Which is why Communists love Darwin and have been determined to spread his lies as truth. What greater insult to God then to convince man he was created in the image of an ape - therein implying that God is an ape! We were made in the image of God - Genesis 1:26 - not apes. Anyone who believes that story deserves to lose their water supply to the sucker fish!

Links!!!

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Darwin was the spiritual father of Karl Marx. Which is why Communists love Darwin and have been determined to spread his lies as truth. What greater insult to God then to convince man he was created in the image of an ape - therein implying that God is an ape! We were made in the image of God - Genesis 1:26 - not apes. Anyone who believes that story deserves to lose their water supply to the sucker fish!

Links!!!

Thomas Nelson Bibles

I prefer the KJV but take your pick. Look up Genesis 1:26.

The Bible tells you that in specific, Darwin is the spiritual father of Karl Marx?

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Darwin was the spiritual father of Karl Marx. Which is why Communists love Darwin and have been determined to spread his lies as truth. What greater insult to God then to convince man he was created in the image of an ape - therein implying that God is an ape! We were made in the image of God - Genesis 1:26 - not apes. Anyone who believes that story deserves to lose their water supply to the sucker fish!

Links!!!

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Darwin was the spiritual father of Karl Marx. Which is why Communists love Darwin and have been determined to spread his lies as truth. What greater insult to God then to convince man he was created in the image of an ape - therein implying that God is an ape! We were made in the image of God - Genesis 1:26 - not apes. Anyone who believes that story deserves to lose their water supply to the sucker fish!

Links!!!

Thomas Nelson Bibles

I prefer the KJV but take your pick. Look up Genesis 1:26.

The Bible tells you that in specific, Darwin is the spiritual father of Karl Marx?

No! The Bible exposes Darwin's theory to be a lie. Richard Wurmbrand's book Marx & Satan identifies Darwin as the Spiritual father of Marx. Here you go!

Full text of Marx And Satan

This is the entire Book by Wurmbrand - I had to look it up for you - here is the part that addresses Darwin as the Spiritual Father of Marx. It took me a while to read through it!

What was the specific contribution of Marx to Satan's
plan for mankind?

The Bible teaches that God created man in His own
image (Genesis 1:26). Up to the time of Marx, man
continued to be considered as "the crown of creation."
Marx was Satan's chosen tool to make man lose his
self-esteem, his conviction that he comes from high
places and is meant to return to them. Marxism is the
first systematic and detailed philosophy which drasti-
cally reduces the notion of man.

According to Marx, man is primarily a belly which
has to be filled and refilled constantly. The prevailing
interests of man are economic in nature; he produces in
order to satisfy his needs. For this purpose, he enters
into social relationships with others. This is the basis of
society, what Marx calls the infrastructure. Marriage,
love, art, science, religion, philosophy, everything other
than the needs of the belly, are all superstructure, deter-
mined in the last analysis by the state of the belly.

No wonder Marx praised Darwin's book The Descent of Man,
another masterstroke which makes men
forget their divine origin and divine purpose. Darwin
said that man springs from the animal world.

Man was dethroned by these two. Satan could not
dethrone God, so he devalued man. Man was shown to
be the progeny of animals and a mere servant to his
intestines.

It is a strange coincidence that the nineteenth cen-
tury gave the world three leading personalities opposed
to Christianity, all bearing the name of Charles: Karl
(German for Charles) Marx, Charles Darwin, and the
French poet Charles Baudelaire. The latter wrote in
"Abel and Cain":

Race of Cain, ascend to heaven
And throw God to the earth.

Marx wrote to Ferdinand Lassalle on January 16,
1861, "Darwin's book is very important and serves me
as a basis in the natural sciences for the historical class
struggle."

Marx's son-in-law, Paul Lafargue, in Socialism and
the Intellectuals, says,

When Darwin published his Origin of Species, he took away
from God his role as creator in the organic world, as Frank-
lin has despoiled him of his thunderbolt.

(It was not Darwin's original intent to harm religion.
He had written, "There is a grandeur in this view of
life, with its several powers, having been originally
breathed into a few forms or into one." In order to
make his position more emphatic, Darwin inserted the
phrase "by the Creator" after "breathed" in the second



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edition. It remained there in all the succeeding editions
he published.)

Later Freud would complete the work of these two
giants, reducing man basically to a sex urge, sometimes
sublimated in politics, art, or religion. It was the Swiss
psychologist Carl Gustav Jung who returned to the
Biblical doctrine that the religious impulse is man's ba-
sic urge.

The age of Marx was a time of Satanist ferment in
many spheres of life. The Russian poet Sologub wrote,
"My father is the Devil." Another Russian poet, Briu-
sov, said, "I glorify equally the Lord and the Devil."

Marx was a child of the time that gave us Nietzsche
(Hitler's and Mussolini's favorite philosopher), Max
Stirner, an extreme anarchist, and Oscar Wilde, the first
theoretician of freedom for homosexuality, a vice which
today has met with acceptance even among the clergy.

Satanic forces prepared Russia for the victory of
Marxism. The time of the revolution was a period
when love, goodwill, and healthy feeling were consid-
ered mean and retrograde. Girls hid their innocence
and husbands their faithfulness. Destruction was
praised as good taste, neurasthenia as the sign of a fine
mind. This was the theme of new writers who burst on
the scene out of obscurity. Men invented vices and
perversions, and were fastidious in their avoidance of
being thought moral.

How was it that Stalin became a revolutionist after
reading Darwin? 1 As a student in an Orthodox semi-
nary, he obtained from Darwin the concept that we are
not creatures of God, but the result of an evolution in
which ruthless competition reigns. It is only the strong-



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est and most cruel who survive. He learned that moral
and religious criteria play no role in nature and that
man is as much a part of nature as a fish or an ape.
Long live ruthlessness and cruelty!

Darwin had written a scientific book setting forth
his theory of origins. It had no economic or political
implications. But though many might go so far as to
concede that God created the world through a long
process of evolution, the end result of Darwin's theory
has been the killing of tens of millions of innocents. He
therefore became the spiritual father of the greatest
mass-murderer in history.

Beyond the intellectual turmoil of the nineteenth
century can be traced the influence of the French Rev-
olution, which was spiritually very much akin to the
Russian cataclysm of the twentieth century.

During the upheaval in France, Anarchasis Clootz, a
leading French revolutionary and Illuminatus, declared
himself to be "the personal enemy of Jesus Christ." He
proclaimed before the Convention of November 17,
1792, "The people is the sovereign and the god of the
world. . . . Only fools believe in any other God, in a
Supreme Being." The Convention then issued a decree
proclaiming "the nullification of all religions."

For those of us who take seriously the words of the
Lord's Prayer, "Deliver us from evil," the meaning is
clear: we implore a loving God to protect us and soci-
ety around us from false doctrine, from pernicious art
that accustoms us to evil under the guise of beauty, and
from immorality in life. Then we need have no fear of
the Devil's snares.

You have a choice: Do you want to become like the
Devil, cruel and vicious, or like Jesus, the God-man of
holy love and peace?

Thank you for sharing that information.

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