Do conservatives not understand how important it is to protect pre-existing conditions?

[Flash]

Anybody demanding that they get preexisting conditions covered when they didn't pay insurance is also demanding that somebody else pay their bills.

Disgusting, in't it?

 

[Siete]

I doubt pre existing conditions will be eliminated before mid term elections ..

 

[Harpy Eagle]

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I mean seriously people bitching and moaning about 132,000 kids with diabetes and they can't use the INTERNET and find the above????

So, what happens to those children when the become adults and this charity no longer helps them?

Do you have any clue how expensive of a disease Type-1 is to control and the massive health issue that can arise if it is not controlled?

Hey I use the Internet to find answers to your dumb ass questions! Why don't YOU????

Treating Type 1 diabetes without Insurance - The #OverTheCounterT1DChallenge
check out the above and then calculate the below and you will see less than $100/month...

Here are the products I used on the #overthecounterT1Dchallenge:

• Novolin R Insulin – $25 per vial (I used 1 full vial in the 30 days)
• Novolin N Insulin – $25 per vial (I used 1 full vial in the 30 days)
• Test Strips from One Drop today – $39 per month for unlimited strips (I used over 250 in the 30 days, because R and NPH require more attention due to bouncing between highs and lows)
• ReliOn Syringes – $12 per box of 100 (I used ~150)

And one vial per month will not control their blood sugar adequately for most people and they will have major issues later.

Also, the insulin from Walmart is poor quality and leads to more highs and lows. The highs and lows are what damages the body and brings about major issues later in life.

Google does not make you an expert.

You see, I do not have to look on the web to see how much it cost, because I have a teenage son that has been living it for the last 7 years.




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OK... see the below example of a blown out of proportion for melodramatics! And I am curious you don't have group health insurance that is obviously paying
for your son then is that right?

Now let’s take a look at my daughter’s total spending:

• 1 vial of Novalog Insulin- $300 28 day supply valid at CVS
• 3 vials of Lantus-$960 validdCVS/Target/ about $278/vial or 3 vials
• 650 test strips- $650-$1300 Walgreens box 100 $73.00/box 6.5 boxes $500
• (2) boxes of 6 mm (1/2 unit syringes)- $100 Diabetic supplies 2 boxes $26.
• Alcohol Wipes (2 boxes of 200)- $90 (charged to insurance, this seems way inflated to me) (I'm diabetic test once a day and buy wipes at Walmart $1/box 100.
• Juice boxes, and glucose tablets for treatment of lows- $250
• Now we also have her supplies that we get 2x a year
• Blood Ketone strips 350 a year $1,750... Caretouch 50 strips $10 or for 350 total of $70...way over prices
• The Cost of Having A Child with Diabetes

Now if you are like the above person who has truly padded these expenses MAYBE YOU should use the internet as I've just done!.
Pay $99† for a 10ml vial or $149† for a pack of 5 pens.
Lantus® (insulin glargine injection) 100 Units/mL Savings and Support

I do have insurance that is paying for my son right now, but soon he will be forced to come off of it and with your plan every insurance company can tell him to fuck off and die. I have an issue with that.

 

[BlackSand]

10s of millions Americans would be affected by this. Either conservatives do not even understand this subject, or they believe it won’t affect them personally. That’s their “I got mine - fuck everyone else philosophy”. Of course once they realize it will affect them, only then would they support the protections.

That’s America for you.

I don't think you could have done a better job of explaining just how much a pre-existing condition relates to an "I got mine and fuck everyone else" philosophy ...
Albeit I doubt that is what you intended ...

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[Harpy Eagle]

I doubt pre existing conditions will be eliminated before mid term elections ..

They do not need to be, they now have the DOJ and Trump saying that they are going away. That should be in the ad for everyone running that is not a Repub.

 

[busybee01]

Insurance is for the unexpected...You don't wreck your car, then go to your insurance agent demanding collision coverage for your "pre-existing condition"... Either socialists won't understand this, or are just plain stupid.

That's the GIBSMEDAT! culture for you.

You are the one who is plain stupid. Someone should be able to get affordable health insurance. I would call a pre-existing condition unexpected. No one expects to be born sick or develop a sickness that will not go away. When the compassion was passed out you must have been out to lunch.

 

[deanrd]

10s of millions Americans would be affected by this. Either conservatives do not even understand this subject, or they believe it won’t affect them personally. That’s their “I got mine - fuck everyone else philosophy”. Of course once they realize it will affect them, only then would they support the protections.

That’s America for you.

Of course they realize it. They have no problem with people suffering. Unless they are needy billionaires. That's where they draw the line.

 

[tyroneweaver]

10s of millions Americans would be affected by this. Either conservatives do not even understand this subject, or they believe it won’t affect them personally. That’s their “I got mine - fuck everyone else philosophy”. Of course once they realize it will affect them, only then would they support the protections.

That’s America for you.

Just bankrupt the country then we will all certainly will be equal

 

[deanrd]

What about the 6.1 million kids under the age of 18 that have asthma and will be denied insurance? Is there a charity for them as well?

And if The State wasn't already meddling and intervening in the medical care marketplace, the medications and courses of treatment for them would be far less costly...Freedom -real freedom-
has something in it for everyone.

I guess death is a kind of freedom.

 

[busybee01]

Insurance is for the unexpected...You don't wreck your car, then go to your insurance agent demanding collision coverage for your "pre-existing condition"... Either socialists won't understand this, or are just plain stupid.

That's the GIBSMEDAT! culture for you.

You idiot. The point is that healthcare shouldn’t be treated like it’s insurance. You equating car insurance as justification for rejecting healthcare coverage is ridiculous

Your mistake is equating healthcare with health insurance... two totally separate things.

They are not totally separate. Health insurance affects your healthcare. People who have no health insurance tend to wait longer and their condition becomes more life threatening and more expensive.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

10s of millions Americans would be affected by this. Either conservatives do not even understand this subject, or they believe it won’t affect them personally. That’s their “I got mine - fuck everyone else philosophy”. Of course once they realize it will affect them, only then would they support the protections.

That’s America for you.

Republicans don’t care – they adhere blindly to the failed dogma of Social Darwinism, believing that only those who can afford access to healthcare should have access to healthcare; and that those who don’t have access to affordable healthcare have only themselves to blame, that they lack access to affordable healthcare due to their own failings and incompetence, and should do without access to affordable healthcare as a consequence.

Hence the reprehensible right.

It's even worse than that, Republicans also understand insurance and math.

 

[Darkwind]

Insurance is for the unexpected...You don't wreck your car, then go to your insurance agent demanding collision coverage for your "pre-existing condition"... Either socialists won't understand this, or are just plain stupid.

That's the GIBSMEDAT! culture for you.

You idiot. The point is that healthcare shouldn’t be treated like it’s insurance. You equating car insurance as justification for rejecting healthcare coverage is ridiculous

Your mistake is equating healthcare with health insurance... two totally separate things.

They are not totally separate. Health insurance affects your healthcare. People who have no health insurance tend to wait longer and their condition becomes more life threatening and more expensive.

That is just poor decision making at every level. Health Insurance should be outlawed.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

10s of millions Americans would be affected by this. Either conservatives do not even understand this subject, or they believe it won’t affect them personally. That’s their “I got mine - fuck everyone else philosophy”. Of course once they realize it will affect them, only then would they support the protections.

That’s America for you.

Republicans don’t care – they adhere blindly to the failed dogma of Social Darwinism, believing that only those who can afford access to healthcare should have access to healthcare; and that those who don’t have access to affordable healthcare have only themselves to blame, that they lack access to affordable healthcare due to their own failings and incompetence, and should do without access to affordable healthcare as a consequence.

Hence the reprehensible right.

It's even worse than that, Republicans also understand insurance and math.

No, they do not understand insurance at all.

 

[Darkwind]

Insurance is for the unexpected...You don't wreck your car, then go to your insurance agent demanding collision coverage for your "pre-existing condition"... Either socialists won't understand this, or are just plain stupid.

That's the GIBSMEDAT! culture for you.

You are the one who is plain stupid. Someone should be able to get affordable health insurance. I would call a pre-existing condition unexpected. No one expects to be born sick or develop a sickness that will not go away. When the compassion was passed out you must have been out to lunch.

Your kind of compassion ruins more lives than it will ever help.

 

[deanrd]

Insurance is for the unexpected...You don't wreck your car, then go to your insurance agent demanding collision coverage for your "pre-existing condition"... Either socialists won't understand this, or are just plain stupid.

That's the GIBSMEDAT! culture for you.

Except that healthcare can cost tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands, of dollars. An amount most people can't afford to just pay out of pocket. Which is, of course, why we have insurance.

If heathcare was reasonable, I might be more inclined to agree. But it isn't. Only extremely rich people can drop a few hundred grand for healthcare.

Do away with insurance and you'd see a return to affordable healthcare.

Or no healthcare at all for millions. The way it was before Obamacare. Yea, cheap insurance that covered nothing. When medical bills were the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It's OK. Once the new costs come out in October, we'll know exactly how many millions of America will get fuked. How many lives will be ruined. Republicans rejoice. You did it. You hurt America by attacking the American children.

 

[skews13]

10s of millions Americans would be affected by this. Either conservatives do not even understand this subject, or they believe it won’t affect them personally. That’s their “I got mine - fuck everyone else philosophy”. Of course once they realize it will affect them, only then would they support the protections.

That’s America for you.

Let me explain the insurance business to you, billy.

Insurance companies charge for risk. If someone smoke half a carton a day, and drinks heavily, maybe suffers from COPD and cirrhosis, that represents more risk to them, more of a chance they are going to have to pay a claim. Same if a customer has aids, cancer, parkinsons.

Very pricy treatments, they have to charge more to make it worth their while.

Insurance companies aren't in the business of losing money.

Thanks for the explanation. This is why we will be going to a single payer system. There seems to be a misconception that there has to be a for profit healthcare system that’s entitled to profits. Imagine the shock and surprise when that goes away.

 

[busybee01]

“HelloPenguin#01 State Farm? I have a pre-burnt house I need to get fire coverage on. Democrats say you owes me”

Hello. State Farm? You have a pre-stupid condition. You need some looney bin insurance.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Insulin For Life | Insulin Donations
Insulin for Life USA is a not-for-profit with a mission to rescue unused diabetes supplies here in the United States and deliver them to people across the world who have no access to these life saving necessities. Please consider how you can support IFL USA and donate your supplies or cash contribution tod

Rating 5 Popular Diabetes Non-Profits
2. Children’s Diabetes Foundation

Charity Navigator Star Rating – 3 out of 4
Overall Charity Navigator Score – 80.28 (out of 100)
Financial Score – 73.01 (out of 100)
Accountability and Transparency – 93 (out of 100)

2012 Total Revenue – $3,240,914
2012 Total Expenses – $4,006,306

Expenses Breakdown (Fiscal Year ending 12/2012)
Program Expenses – 60%
Fundraising – 30%
Administrative – 10%

Donating Unused Insulin to charity?

I mean seriously people bitching and moaning about 132,000 kids with diabetes and they can't use the INTERNET and find the above????

So, what happens to those children when the become adults and this charity no longer helps them?

Do you have any clue how expensive of a disease Type-1 is to control and the massive health issue that can arise if it is not controlled?

Hey I use the Internet to find answers to your dumb ass questions! Why don't YOU????

Treating Type 1 diabetes without Insurance - The #OverTheCounterT1DChallenge
check out the above and then calculate the below and you will see less than $100/month...

Here are the products I used on the #overthecounterT1Dchallenge:

• Novolin R Insulin – $25 per vial (I used 1 full vial in the 30 days)
• Novolin N Insulin – $25 per vial (I used 1 full vial in the 30 days)
• Test Strips from One Drop today – $39 per month for unlimited strips (I used over 250 in the 30 days, because R and NPH require more attention due to bouncing between highs and lows)
• ReliOn Syringes – $12 per box of 100 (I used ~150)

And one vial per month will not control their blood sugar adequately for most people and they will have major issues later.

Also, the insulin from Walmart is poor quality and leads to more highs and lows. The highs and lows are what damages the body and brings about major issues later in life.

Google does not make you an expert.

You see, I do not have to look on the web to see how much it cost, because I have a teenage son that has been living it for the last 7 years.




Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

OK... see the below example of a blown out of proportion for melodramatics! And I am curious you don't have group health insurance that is obviously paying
for your son then is that right?

Now let’s take a look at my daughter’s total spending:

• 1 vial of Novalog Insulin- $300 28 day supply valid at CVS
• 3 vials of Lantus-$960 validdCVS/Target/ about $278/vial or 3 vials
• 650 test strips- $650-$1300 Walgreens box 100 $73.00/box 6.5 boxes $500
• (2) boxes of 6 mm (1/2 unit syringes)- $100 Diabetic supplies 2 boxes $26.
• Alcohol Wipes (2 boxes of 200)- $90 (charged to insurance, this seems way inflated to me) (I'm diabetic test once a day and buy wipes at Walmart $1/box 100.
• Juice boxes, and glucose tablets for treatment of lows- $250
• Now we also have her supplies that we get 2x a year
• Blood Ketone strips 350 a year $1,750... Caretouch 50 strips $10 or for 350 total of $70...way over prices
• The Cost of Having A Child with Diabetes

Now if you are like the above person who has truly padded these expenses MAYBE YOU should use the internet as I've just done!.
Pay $99† for a 10ml vial or $149† for a pack of 5 pens.
Lantus® (insulin glargine injection) 100 Units/mL Savings and Support

I do have insurance that is paying for my son right now, but soon he will be forced to come off of it and with your plan every insurance company can tell him to fuck off and die. I have an issue with that.

That's not true, he will need to show his employer a certificate of insurability.

 

[busybee01]

What is the solution for those who have a condition prior to getting insurance but cannot afford to pay for the treatments and cannot get insurance either?

Do we just let them die?

Do we have the Govt pay for them?

?

Easy. Take your money and give it to them. Then both of you will be happy.

Let's take all your money and everything you own. Filthy animals like you don't deserve a dime.

 

[busybee01]

Fuck pre existing conditions. That is nothing more than welfare to have a government mandate to require that insurance companies accept somebody that didn't pay into the insurance pool.

Liberals don't understand the concept of what insurance is all about. It is not welfare. It is pooling. You pay in when you are well and take out when you are sick. If you don't pay in then you shouldn't be allowed to take out.

All filthy Liberals want is for somebody else to pay their bills. Despicable!

You just made the perfect case for a mandate. You are the despicable person.