Do pollsters really think they are going to fool people again?

[Claudette]

I'm not embarrassed at all and I voted for the man. Best vote I ever cast.

I didn't claim all Trump voters were embarrassed. So your response is not appropriate in any sense.

You are pretty good at lying.

Which part? Use your big boy words.

Figure it out for yourself. I'm pretty damned sure you know when you are full of shit.

Sucks to be you.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'm not embarrassed at all and I voted for the man. Best vote I ever cast.

I didn't claim all Trump voters were embarrassed. So your response is not appropriate in any sense.

You are pretty good at lying.

Which part? Use your big boy words.

Figure it out for yourself. I'm pretty damned sure you know when you are full of shit.

Sucks to be you.

Oh boy, tantrum time already? It always ends the same way with you....

 

[Claudette]

I'm not embarrassed at all and I voted for the man. Best vote I ever cast.

I didn't claim all Trump voters were embarrassed. So your response is not appropriate in any sense.

You are pretty good at lying.

Which part? Use your big boy words.

Figure it out for yourself. I'm pretty damned sure you know when you are full of shit.

Sucks to be you.

Oh boy, tantrum time already? It always ends the same way with you....

Nope. I don't throw tantrums never have.
You are funny though.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'm not embarrassed at all and I voted for the man. Best vote I ever cast.

I didn't claim all Trump voters were embarrassed. So your response is not appropriate in any sense.

You are pretty good at lying.

Which part? Use your big boy words.

Figure it out for yourself. I'm pretty damned sure you know when you are full of shit.

Sucks to be you.

Oh boy, tantrum time already? It always ends the same way with you....

Nope. I don't throw tantrums never have.
You are funny though.

But you just did.

 

[candycorn]

Polls reflect what they uncover. There is no sinister intent behind reputable polling.

 

[kyzr]

Polls reflect what they uncover. There is no sinister intent behind reputable polling.

Ok, say I agree with your point that there is no sinister intent behind "less than accurate polling". That the bad prediction happened due to random responses of those polled. Then why are the very accurate polls not use exclusively by the MSM? Why do they average bad pollsters with good ones? I'd say that the polls used need to have an accuracy rating (1 thru 5 stars?) so folks know who is more accurate and who is not.

 

[candycorn]

Polls reflect what they uncover. There is no sinister intent behind reputable polling.

Ok, say I agree with your point that there is no sinister intent behind "less than accurate polling". That the bad prediction happened due to random responses of those polled. Then why are the very accurate polls not use exclusively by the MSM? Why do they average bad pollsters with good ones? I'd say that the polls used need to have an accuracy rating (1 thru 5 stars?) so folks know who is more accurate and who is not.

What “very accurate poll” are you referring to?

As for the use of bad pollsters with good ones; that is an individual editorial choice by each network I imagine. From what I have seen, the 24 hour news channels on cable TV seem to bring up any poll just to have something to impanel some talking heads to discuss it for a 12 minute segment to get them to the next commercial bank. Which is one of the reasons when I seek news, I go to the AP and NPR.

As for the scoring system; I would LOVE IT if an organization that is purely apolitical like the League of Women Voters would issue a rating system for the polls and it was widely used by he news networks. Good idea.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Polls reflect what they uncover. There is no sinister intent behind reputable polling.

They know what the outcome of a poll will be before they ask one person. That is based on how they form the questions, what areas they will sample, how many people from each party are sampled.


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[Fort Fun Indiana]

Polls reflect what they uncover. There is no sinister intent behind reputable polling.

They know what the outcome of a poll will be before they ask one person. That is based on how they form the questions, what areas they will sample, how many people from each party are sampled.


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Paranoid nonsense

 

[Care4all]

Due to gerrymandering, democrats have to be polling at 7% or higher in a generic poll, over the Republicans, in order to win....

so, with polling saying dems will win by 6%, they will actually lose... is what was explained on the news tonight....

so, once again, it could be that democrats get 6% more of the total votes of its citizenry cast, but still lose.

and that would suck wind!

80 years of payback is a bitch.

it's also wrong, and erodes our democratic republic.

 

[candycorn]

Polls reflect what they uncover. There is no sinister intent behind reputable polling.

They know what the outcome of a poll will be before they ask one person. That is based on how they form the questions, what areas they will sample, how many people from each party are sampled.


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Ok.

 

[Norman]

They failed MISERABLY in 2016 with very few polls getting it right so why do the SAME pollsters that did such a lousy job in 2016 think people are going to be fooled by them again in 2018? Is it just them trying to regain some relevance and crush the populist wave coming? I personally get a gut feeling of how things are going to go and I think the polls are WAY off like worse than 2016 levels. OBVIOUSLY MILLIONS more people are voting and its mostly GOP voters....if the polls are completely off again what happens? Do polls still try to stay relevant? Do they disappear?

We Americans are voting to take our country back.

Polls? What use are they in taking America back? GTFO!

 

[candycorn]

Polls reflect what they uncover. There is no sinister intent behind reputable polling.

They know what the outcome of a poll will be before they ask one person. That is based on how they form the questions, what areas they will sample, how many people from each party are sampled.


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Paranoid nonsense

Polls I have seen (not all inclusive) from electoral-vote.com: US Senate...

ND senate turning red easily by 5-10 % points.

TX staying red by 3-5 % points. Likewise for TN

NV, MO, FL too close to call. Inside 3 % points either way.

MT, IN, WV, OH holds by the blues by 3-5% points

What the website does is report other polls and averages them when possible.

This should give us an indication of the accuracy of polling in the 2018.

 

[rightwinger]

They failed MISERABLY in 2016 with very few polls getting it right so why do the SAME pollsters that did such a lousy job in 2016 think people are going to be fooled by them again in 2018? Is it just them trying to regain some relevance and crush the populist wave coming? I personally get a gut feeling of how things are going to go and I think the polls are WAY off like worse than 2016 levels. OBVIOUSLY MILLIONS more people are voting and its mostly GOP voters....if the polls are completely off again what happens? Do polls still try to stay relevant? Do they disappear?

We Americans are voting to take our country back.

Polls? What use are they in taking America back? GTFO!

Polls are critical to the political process

They tell campaigns where they need to invest their resources

 

[francoHFW]

They failed MISERABLY in 2016 with very few polls getting it right so why do the SAME pollsters that did such a lousy job in 2016 think people are going to be fooled by them again in 2018? Is it just them trying to regain some relevance and crush the populist wave coming? I personally get a gut feeling of how things are going to go and I think the polls are WAY off like worse than 2016 levels. OBVIOUSLY MILLIONS more people are voting and its mostly GOP voters....if the polls are completely off again what happens? Do polls still try to stay relevant? Do they disappear?

We Americans are voting to take our country back.

Polls? What use are they in taking America back? GTFO!

Taking it back for greedy idiot lying thieving GOP billionaires, super duper. Polls were off in 2016 because of trump voters misleading them for fun.

 

[Norman]

They failed MISERABLY in 2016 with very few polls getting it right so why do the SAME pollsters that did such a lousy job in 2016 think people are going to be fooled by them again in 2018? Is it just them trying to regain some relevance and crush the populist wave coming? I personally get a gut feeling of how things are going to go and I think the polls are WAY off like worse than 2016 levels. OBVIOUSLY MILLIONS more people are voting and its mostly GOP voters....if the polls are completely off again what happens? Do polls still try to stay relevant? Do they disappear?

We Americans are voting to take our country back.

Polls? What use are they in taking America back? GTFO!

Taking it back for greedy idiot lying thieving GOP billionaires, super duper. Polls were off in 2016 because of trump voters misleading them for fun.

Well, we have mislead you again.

Get prepared for blue pondlet. America will be taken back.

 

[Dschrute3]

Polls are mind-control brainwashing tools. They serve no other purpose. People don't need to know who's 'Supposed to Win.'

 

[candycorn]

Polls reflect what they uncover. There is no sinister intent behind reputable polling.

They know what the outcome of a poll will be before they ask one person. That is based on how they form the questions, what areas they will sample, how many people from each party are sampled.


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Paranoid nonsense

Polls I have seen (not all inclusive) from electoral-vote.com: US Senate...

ND senate turning red easily by 5-10 % points.

TX staying red by 3-5 % points. Likewise for TN

NV, MO, FL too close to call. Inside 3 % points either way.

MT, IN, WV, OH holds by the blues by 3-5% points

What the website does is report other polls and averages them when possible.

This should give us an indication of the accuracy of polling in the 2018.

 

[francoHFW]

They failed MISERABLY in 2016 with very few polls getting it right so why do the SAME pollsters that did such a lousy job in 2016 think people are going to be fooled by them again in 2018? Is it just them trying to regain some relevance and crush the populist wave coming? I personally get a gut feeling of how things are going to go and I think the polls are WAY off like worse than 2016 levels. OBVIOUSLY MILLIONS more people are voting and its mostly GOP voters....if the polls are completely off again what happens? Do polls still try to stay relevant? Do they disappear?

We Americans are voting to take our country back.

Polls? What use are they in taking America back? GTFO!

Taking it back for greedy idiot lying thieving GOP billionaires, super duper. Polls were off in 2016 because of trump voters misleading them for fun.

Well, we have mislead you again.

Get prepared for blue pondlet. America will be taken back.

From who, minorities and college-educated? you are totally misinformed and misguided...

 

[Norman]

They failed MISERABLY in 2016 with very few polls getting it right so why do the SAME pollsters that did such a lousy job in 2016 think people are going to be fooled by them again in 2018? Is it just them trying to regain some relevance and crush the populist wave coming? I personally get a gut feeling of how things are going to go and I think the polls are WAY off like worse than 2016 levels. OBVIOUSLY MILLIONS more people are voting and its mostly GOP voters....if the polls are completely off again what happens? Do polls still try to stay relevant? Do they disappear?

We Americans are voting to take our country back.

Polls? What use are they in taking America back? GTFO!

Taking it back for greedy idiot lying thieving GOP billionaires, super duper. Polls were off in 2016 because of trump voters misleading them for fun.

Well, we have mislead you again.

Get prepared for blue pondlet. America will be taken back.

From who, minorities and college-educated? you are totally misinformed and misguided...

From unAmericans such as yourself.

The ones who can't tell the difference between a man and a woman, and between the land of the free and their socialist utopias.