Rev.Hellh0und
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Does that matter? If I say "puppies should be kicked" does that make my position less abhorrent if no puppies were kicked?
I note you ignored all the other points.
but to answer your question, plenty, too many
Kamala Harris laughed about jailing parents over truancy. But it's not funny | Nathan Robinson
Recently resurfaced videos of Harris defending her decision to lock up parents over truancy are disturbingwww.theguardian.com
Doesn't matter? You are saying Kamala Harris is laughing about parents she put in jail for truancy. So, how many parents went to jail for this?
I literally gave you a link, if you think it's funny ripping black kids away from their single mothers, then that's what your ok with, I am not.
Yeah, she didn't put any mothers in jail for truancy. In the meantime Trump tore apart families, possibly forever.
Are you infirm? not ok?
Kamala Harris laughed about jailing parents over truancy. But it's not funny | Nathan Robinson
Recently resurfaced videos of Harris defending her decision to lock up parents over truancy are disturbing
Harris cheerfully recounts the story of sending an attorney from her office to intimidate a homeless single mother whose children were missing school. She smiles as she recalls how she instructed her subordinates to “look really mean” so that the mother would take the threat of jail seriously. In separate footage, Harris mocks those on the left who say things like “build schools, not jails” and “put more money into education, not prisons”, suggesting they are naive sloganeers who do not understand crime prevention.
The Story Behind Kamala Harris' Truancy Program
HuffPost reporter Molly Redden explains how a program trying to reduce school absences produced unintended consequences—both for California families and Harris herself.www.npr.org
In 2019, HuffPost reporter Molly Redden wrote about the families affected by this truancy program, including a Black mother named Cheree Peoples, who was arrested in April of 2013. She came on the show to help explain why this program, which initially launched without much criticism, ended up becoming so controversial, and why it disproportionately affected families of color. Here's the extended cut of our conversation, which has been edited and condensed for clarity.
The Human Costs Of Kamala Harris’ War On Truancy
The Human Costs Of Kamala Harris’ War On Truancy
The "progressive prosecutor" wanted to transform how California responded to students missing school. Parents like Cheree Peoples wound up paying the price.www.huffpost.com
On the morning of April 18, 2013, in the Los Angeles suburb of Buena Park, a throng of photographers positioned themselves on a street curb and watched as two police officers entered a squat townhouse. Minutes later, their cameras began clicking. The officers had re-emerged with a weary-looking woman in pajamas and handcuffs, and the photographers were jostling to capture her every step.
Concession taken.
Are you saying she was literally laughing at someone? She wasn't, she was laughing at a story told to her by a friend about his wife. She was laughing at the story which appeared to be humorous as it was told to Harris. Do I agree with her past truancy policy? No as on the state level some Republican DAs took it too far. Do I think truancy is a problem? Yes. Did truancy rates go down because of this policy? It appeared to. I still don't approve of that policy in most situations however as already noted nobody went to jail over it.
Now, which would I trust with policies not to destroy families. A truancy policy where no one went to jail or separating families forever? Not a difficult question to answer in the least.
So sometimes according to you, it's a laughable event to jail single black mothers if their kids are truant. I disagree.
Never said that, apparently you missed my point as well as add your own flavor to Harris' video about. We don't even know if the woman she is talking about is black.
Just as? As in thousands of kids separated from their parents and thrown in cages and locked away for months with hundreds possibly never seeing their families again. Vs. No jailtime.
It's not "just as abhorrent", it's not even close. What Trump did is something that dictatorships tend to do. Vs. no jailtime.
She laughed about an anecdote told by a friend of hers about his wife telling his kids to go to school, nothing more, nothing less. I don't care for the policy myself as a general rule since many parents have other issues going on. If they just jailed shitty parents I would be fine with that...but, wait. Oh yeah, they didn't jail anyone. In the meantime Trump lost about 500 or so kids.
It's not difficult to make a decision here between the two.
So you think it was appropriate for kamala the sociopath to have had these women to be arrested in the first place?
It was a racist policy. do you support racist policies?
She laughed about it.
I already told you, no, I don't like the policy. I don't think it was racist either though. I'll take Harris as a whole over Trump any day. He tends to lose children while Harris was more bark than bite.
"Just as abhorrent" What a joke.
Does that matter? If I say "puppies should be kicked" does that make my position less abhorrent if no puppies were kicked?
I note you ignored all the other points.
but to answer your question, plenty, too many
Kamala Harris laughed about jailing parents over truancy. But it's not funny | Nathan Robinson
Recently resurfaced videos of Harris defending her decision to lock up parents over truancy are disturbing
Doesn't matter? You are saying Kamala Harris is laughing about parents she put in jail for truancy. So, how many parents went to jail for this?
I literally gave you a link, if you think it's funny ripping black kids away from their single mothers, then that's what your ok with, I am not.
Yeah, she didn't put any mothers in jail for truancy. In the meantime Trump tore apart families, possibly forever.
Are you infirm? not ok?
Kamala Harris laughed about jailing parents over truancy. But it's not funny | Nathan Robinson
Recently resurfaced videos of Harris defending her decision to lock up parents over truancy are disturbing
Harris cheerfully recounts the story of sending an attorney from her office to intimidate a homeless single mother whose children were missing school. She smiles as she recalls how she instructed her subordinates to “look really mean” so that the mother would take the threat of jail seriously. In separate footage, Harris mocks those on the left who say things like “build schools, not jails” and “put more money into education, not prisons”, suggesting they are naive sloganeers who do not understand crime prevention.
The Story Behind Kamala Harris' Truancy Program
HuffPost reporter Molly Redden explains how a program trying to reduce school absences produced unintended consequences—both for California families and Harris herself.
In 2019, HuffPost reporter Molly Redden wrote about the families affected by this truancy program, including a Black mother named Cheree Peoples, who was arrested in April of 2013. She came on the show to help explain why this program, which initially launched without much criticism, ended up becoming so controversial, and why it disproportionately affected families of color. Here's the extended cut of our conversation, which has been edited and condensed for clarity.
The Human Costs Of Kamala Harris’ War On Truancy
The Human Costs Of Kamala Harris’ War On Truancy
The "progressive prosecutor" wanted to transform how California responded to students missing school. Parents like Cheree Peoples wound up paying the price.
On the morning of April 18, 2013, in the Los Angeles suburb of Buena Park, a throng of photographers positioned themselves on a street curb and watched as two police officers entered a squat townhouse. Minutes later, their cameras began clicking. The officers had re-emerged with a weary-looking woman in pajamas and handcuffs, and the photographers were jostling to capture her every step.
Concession taken.
Are you saying she was literally laughing at someone? She wasn't, she was laughing at a story told to her by a friend about his wife. She was laughing at the story which appeared to be humorous as it was told to Harris. Do I agree with her past truancy policy? No as on the state level some Republican DAs took it too far. Do I think truancy is a problem? Yes. Did truancy rates go down because of this policy? It appeared to. I still don't approve of that policy in most situations however as already noted nobody went to jail over it.
Now, which would I trust with policies not to destroy families. A truancy policy where no one went to jail or separating families forever? Not a difficult question to answer in the least.
So sometimes according to you, it's a laughable event to jail single black mothers if their kids are truant. I disagree.
Never said that, apparently you missed my point as well as add your own flavor to Harris' video about. We don't even know if the woman she is talking about is black.
Just as? As in thousands of kids separated from their parents and thrown in cages and locked away for months with hundreds possibly never seeing their families again. Vs. No jailtime.
It's not "just as abhorrent", it's not even close. What Trump did is something that dictatorships tend to do. Vs. no jailtime.
She laughed about an anecdote told by a friend of hers about his wife telling his kids to go to school, nothing more, nothing less. I don't care for the policy myself as a general rule since many parents have other issues going on. If they just jailed shitty parents I would be fine with that...but, wait. Oh yeah, they didn't jail anyone. In the meantime Trump lost about 500 or so kids.
It's not difficult to make a decision here between the two.
So you think it was appropriate for kamala the sociopath to have had these women to be arrested in the first place?
It was a racist policy. do you support racist policies?
She laughed about it.
I already told you, no, I don't like the policy. I don't think it was racist either though. I'll take Harris as a whole over Trump any day. He tends to lose children while Harris was more bark than bite.
"Just as abhorrent" What a joke.
So you don't think the following things are just as abhorrent and are ok to do?
She laughed about putting mosty young single black mothers in prison for thier kids truancy
Covered, nobody went to jail, not as abhorrent as stripping thousands of children from their families and then losing the connection between them. That's straight up Nazi style shit.
Oh no. Times have changed. I wonder how many cops laughed about smoking weed growing up and then arresting people for possession. Ask me if I care about Harris or the cops attitudes changing when becoming adults.
However where are we now? Harris is for marijuana legalization, Trump at the very best gave it platitudes but did nothing. I'm for marijuana legalization regardless of who laughed at what and that would mean my position is closer to Harris.
Harris is a mixed bag. DAs tend not to want to release anyone from jail since it can create political turmoil between different government agencies like the police and justice departments. So, not good on Harris however she also worked to find people jobs and no put them in jail. It truly is mixed and in some cases she did good in others bad.
Is she better than Trump which is all I care about. Yes, by far.
So kamala wasn't an adult when she was AG?
And no your lying now, I have shown you arrests. you are ignoring facts now.
and no, the prosecutors job is not to keep innocent people in prison.
heres another:
Kamala Harris’s Offices Fought Payments to Wrongly Convicted - Bloomberg
what a SCUMBAG this woman is.
The marijuana use was when she was young. A lot of people joke about things they did when they were young. She could do a half hour stand up special on joking about smoking pot as a youth and I honestly wouldn't care, it doesn't affect anything. Her stance is to legalize which is where we need to be now.
I'm sorry Trump lost, I'll go with the lesser of two evils and rejoice.
She WAS ATTORNEY FUCKING GENERAL OF CALIFORNIA! holy fuck bro,.
the fact she later laughs about smoking weed while an undergraduate while putting thousands in prison for same and fighting against prison and weed reform is sick as fuck, sociopathic.
I didn't vote for trump, nor would I.
Kamala is not a lesser evil, she is all evil, opportunist, duplicitous and a scumbag.
She wasn't laughing about currently smoking weed. Would I be mad if any cop joked about smoking weed before they were a cop? No, it affects me in no way whatsoever what someone did before they were in a position of authority. What I want is marijuana to be legal now and Harris is for legalization while Trump probably isn't, his first AG definitely wasn't and I don't think Mother's husband is either.
I think it's highly inappropriate to laugh about smoking weed while putting thousands of mostly young black men in prison for it. figting against prison and drug reform. you don't I guess that's how we differ.
Kamala is for whatever she thinks will advance her career.
She should be calling for the release of all non-violent drug offenders. but her history is one of a racist drug policy that she fought against reform.
Biden/Harris gets us closer
- Create a new $20 billion competitive grant program to spur states to shift from incarceration to prevention. To accelerate criminal justice reform at the state and local levels, Biden will create a new grant program inspired by a proposal by the Brennan Center. States, counties, and cities will receive funding to invest in efforts proven to reduce crime and incarceration, including efforts to address some of the factors like illiteracy and child abuse that are correlated with incarceration. In order to receive this funding, states will have to eliminate mandatory minimums for non-violent crimes, institute earned credit programs, and take other steps to reduce incarceration rates without impacting public safety.
Trump
- ??
Your kidding right?
First Step Act - Wikipedia
biden has a plan, seems trump signed a law. biden bragged about writing the 94 crime bill.
as for trump. here are the facts:
3,100 inmates to be released as Trump administration implements criminal justice reform - The Washington Post
Remember when kayne west went to the white house to talk prison reform? you all called him an "uncle tom"
Remember when Ice cube did the same with biden only biden said "no thanks", and he went to trump who listened to him, and you all called him too an "uncle tom"?
This is the problem with todays media, it's so tailored to you and you seem not interested in anything outside of your confirmation bias bubble that you are ignorant to these facts.
FIrst Step act is a charade
First Step Act is failing some who find themselves fearing reincarceration after release
Law that was intended to give inmates a second chance is freezing some applications for release and threatening the freedom of former inmates.www.usatoday.com
I never called Kanye West an 'uncle tom', I called him an idiot though.
A charade, biden's is just an idea. I accept your concession.
SO kayne is an "idiot" for successfully getting that black grandma released serving a life sentence for weed?
I disagree.
I believe it was Kim K. who made the sacrifice of having the kidnapping photo-op with Trump to get "grandma" out of prison.
What did Trump do about getting rid of all future marijuana sentences?
More than biden and kamala combined, but they all suck, if your justifying kamala by trump your suggesting kamala is no better than trump, I agree.
No, as previously discussed I think she is way better. Separating families, the stuff of Nazis.
You mean how she refused to let exonerated prisoners out of her prisons?
You should research who you support more. She's the nazi.
She didn't run the prisons for starters. No, saying she refused to let "exonerated" prisoners out is not a true statement.
This is a good read to get an idea of the balancing act that is Kamala Harris' career is below. There are things I like about her and things I don't.
Kamala Harris’s controversial record on criminal justice, explained
Harris has characterized herself as a reformer. But some critics disagree.www.vox.com
More:
She also defended Johnny Baca’s conviction for murder even though judges found a prosecutor presented false testimony at the trial. She relented only after a video of the oral argument received national attention and embarrassed her office.
And then there’s Kevin Cooper, the death row inmate whose trial was infected by racism and corruption. He sought advanced DNA testing to prove his innocence, but Ms. Harris opposed it. (After The New York Times’s exposé of the case went viral, she reversed her position.)
