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Don’t you find it interesting that only the wingnut media is reporting this? Not one credible outlet? It smells like there is more to the story. And there is a reason why the Fox host got cut off from reporting it. We shall see.I heard it on Outnumbered about an hour ago. I’ll post a link as soon as I find one published.According to Fox News his mother never presided over that case. One version of this story is fake news and it is sounding like it is yours.The virtuous Mr. Ford lost a very expensive case over which Kavanaugh's mother presided.Actually, they had a good relationship until Ford dumped him over his crudeness and various policies. He was one of the early high ranking American CEO's to reject Trump after watching him for a short time after the election. Bill Ford is, in fact, a knowledgeable and experienced CEO, unlike Trump who is merely a crooked hustler and con man.
Link.
We wait, beady-eyed, with bated breath.
So if you hadn't heard about Bubba's prior coxmanship, Paula Jones would have been a liar?Billy, you've nuanced away from my point, or I wasn't clear. What I had hoped to convey is the nearly complete support (and financing) Ms. Jones got from Republicans who had been out to 'get' Bubba for years. Now the worm has turned and they (you?) are crying 'irrelevant' and simply mystified at how those nasty Democrats could give credence to so old and iffy a case.I've never been an accuser or a victim. I have no idea. But there is evidence that accusers get a lot worse treatment than the accused, and I do not blame anyone for trying to bury the incident, especially in today's atmosphere. The whole "MeToo" movement began because so many valid claims were ignored by justice and turned against the victims.For Christ's sake, why would she wait for 40+ years to do anything about it?
This kind of nonsense is unbelievable, IMO.
It is a serious claim, and abuse of such claims should also be treated with caution. And I remember not too long ago (to me, that is) when a Presidential accuser of some 20 years prior was believed and rewarded with legal support by the Republican party. She won a lawsuit AND got a nose job. So there IS precedent.
A major difference there. Her claims were supported by a history of such behavior. Bill was a well-known coxman.
Not at all. Kavanaugh has no history of untoward behavior toward women. Bill did.
I'm not crying "irrelevant". I say it's a lie.
Former FBI agent?I think she should be heard, publicly and under oath, before Congress.
First, her account was first relayed in 2012 in therapy. And she has the therapy notes to prove it. She also has witnesses that affirm that she cited Kavanaugh specifically years before his hearing. Eliminating the account being politically motivated.
Second, she took a lie detector test in August, administered by a former FBI agent.
She passed.
Lying to a grand jury.So if you hadn't heard about Bubba's prior coxmanship, Paula Jones would have been a liar?Billy, you've nuanced away from my point, or I wasn't clear. What I had hoped to convey is the nearly complete support (and financing) Ms. Jones got from Republicans who had been out to 'get' Bubba for years. Now the worm has turned and they (you?) are crying 'irrelevant' and simply mystified at how those nasty Democrats could give credence to so old and iffy a case.I've never been an accuser or a victim. I have no idea. But there is evidence that accusers get a lot worse treatment than the accused, and I do not blame anyone for trying to bury the incident, especially in today's atmosphere. The whole "MeToo" movement began because so many valid claims were ignored by justice and turned against the victims.For Christ's sake, why would she wait for 40+ years to do anything about it?
This kind of nonsense is unbelievable, IMO.
It is a serious claim, and abuse of such claims should also be treated with caution. And I remember not too long ago (to me, that is) when a Presidential accuser of some 20 years prior was believed and rewarded with legal support by the Republican party. She won a lawsuit AND got a nose job. So there IS precedent.
A major difference there. Her claims were supported by a history of such behavior. Bill was a well-known coxman.
Not at all. Kavanaugh has no history of untoward behavior toward women. Bill did.
I'm not crying "irrelevant". I say it's a lie.
It's all pretty moot anyway, billy, and I'm sorta sorry I involved myself in this particular angle of the Kavanaugh hearings. I find the gamesmanship of the sudden huge document dump far more disturbing. But I still find Republican reaction to this Ford woman's reluctant decision bitterly amusing as I reminisce the late 90s. And we both know what is coming from out of the WH, and I also expect to be amused as I remember how Hillary is such a douchebag because she didn'r talk nice about Monica or Linda Tripp while I read tweets from the Master Blaster.
Why didn't she come forward when he was being grilled for the DC bench???For Christ's sake, why would she wait for 40+ years to do anything about it?
This kind of nonsense is unbelievable, IMO.
That was very public too.
Or mention it in her 30's when Kavanaugh presided over her parents' case.
I think something happened to her or she would not have told her therapist. My suspicion is that she is using an incident perpetrated by someone else to take out Kavanaugh. It disturbs me that her account no longer matches her therapist's notes. She claims she can't remember much, but the therapist got it wrong. I don't see how one can claim the therapist's notes help her. They prove that her memory changed.
She passed a lie detector test. With witnesses affirming that she cited Kavanaugh as her attacker years before his hearing.
Would Kavanaugh also be willing to take a lie detector test?
It’s a libbie tactic that when things don’t go their way, claim sexual misconduct from 14 to 40 years ago. Hope that false Puritanism will kick in with your audience and demand the accused prove himself innocent. They do it with Trump. Prime element of a witch hunt.
Why didn't she come forward when he was being grilled for the DC bench???For Christ's sake, why would she wait for 40+ years to do anything about it?
This kind of nonsense is unbelievable, IMO.
That was very public too.
Or mention it in her 30's when Kavanaugh presided over her parents' case.
I think something happened to her or she would not have told her therapist. My suspicion is that she is using an incident perpetrated by someone else to take out Kavanaugh. It disturbs me that her account no longer matches her therapist's notes. She claims she can't remember much, but the therapist got it wrong. I don't see how one can claim the therapist's notes help her. They prove that her memory changed.
She passed a lie detector test. With witnesses affirming that she cited Kavanaugh as her attacker years before his hearing.
Would Kavanaugh also be willing to take a lie detector test?
A judge knows how unreliable they are. There is no upside to taking a polygraph, even if he is pure as the driven snow.
Do you have any thoughts on how different the stories are? That's what's most concerning to me. If her memory changed that much in the last 6 years, how much did it change in the prior 25 years or so?
Why didn't she come forward when he was being grilled for the DC bench???For Christ's sake, why would she wait for 40+ years to do anything about it?
This kind of nonsense is unbelievable, IMO.
That was very public too.
Or mention it in her 30's when Kavanaugh presided over her parents' case.
I think something happened to her or she would not have told her therapist. My suspicion is that she is using an incident perpetrated by someone else to take out Kavanaugh. It disturbs me that her account no longer matches her therapist's notes. She claims she can't remember much, but the therapist got it wrong. I don't see how one can claim the therapist's notes help her. They prove that her memory changed.
She passed a lie detector test. With witnesses affirming that she cited Kavanaugh as her attacker years before his hearing.
Would Kavanaugh also be willing to take a lie detector test?
A judge knows how unreliable they are. There is no upside to taking a polygraph, even if he is pure as the driven snow.
Do you have any thoughts on how different the stories are? That's what's most concerning to me. If her memory changed that much in the last 6 years, how much did it change in the prior 25 years or so?
Then what would Kavanaugh have to lose by taking one?
If his denials are as 'unequivocal' as he claims, then surely he'll pass. Christine Ford certainly did when she took a lie detector test.
A former FBI agent (unnamed) claims she took a lie detector testWhy didn't she come forward when he was being grilled for the DC bench???For Christ's sake, why would she wait for 40+ years to do anything about it?
This kind of nonsense is unbelievable, IMO.
That was very public too.
Or mention it in her 30's when Kavanaugh presided over her parents' case.
I think something happened to her or she would not have told her therapist. My suspicion is that she is using an incident perpetrated by someone else to take out Kavanaugh. It disturbs me that her account no longer matches her therapist's notes. She claims she can't remember much, but the therapist got it wrong. I don't see how one can claim the therapist's notes help her. They prove that her memory changed.
She passed a lie detector test. With witnesses affirming that she cited Kavanaugh as her attacker years before his hearing.
Would Kavanaugh also be willing to take a lie detector test?
When it actually happens as opposed to some vague 40 years ago horseshit designed to serve a political purpose .It’s a libbie tactic that when things don’t go their way, claim sexual misconduct from 14 to 40 years ago. Hope that false Puritanism will kick in with your audience and demand the accused prove himself innocent. They do it with Trump. Prime element of a witch hunt.
Opposing attempted forcible rape is hardly 'puritanism'.
A former FBI agent (unnamed) claims she took a lie detector testWhy didn't she come forward when he was being grilled for the DC bench???For Christ's sake, why would she wait for 40+ years to do anything about it?
This kind of nonsense is unbelievable, IMO.
That was very public too.
Or mention it in her 30's when Kavanaugh presided over her parents' case.
I think something happened to her or she would not have told her therapist. My suspicion is that she is using an incident perpetrated by someone else to take out Kavanaugh. It disturbs me that her account no longer matches her therapist's notes. She claims she can't remember much, but the therapist got it wrong. I don't see how one can claim the therapist's notes help her. They prove that her memory changed.
She passed a lie detector test. With witnesses affirming that she cited Kavanaugh as her attacker years before his hearing.
Would Kavanaugh also be willing to take a lie detector test?
Witnesses (unnamed) claimed stuff, before the hearing. Big whoop. Feinstein had this woman's information back in July. Why didn't she bring it up as soon as he was nominated???
Why? To influence the upcoming election and hurt Kavanaugh. No other reason. Just like the lying scum dims did to Clarence Thomas. Notice how liberals love black people until they don't take their side?For Christ's sake, why would she wait for 40+ years to do anything about it?
This kind of nonsense is unbelievable, IMO.
When it actually happens as opposed to some vague 40 years ago horseshit designed to serve a political purpose .It’s a libbie tactic that when things don’t go their way, claim sexual misconduct from 14 to 40 years ago. Hope that false Puritanism will kick in with your audience and demand the accused prove himself innocent. They do it with Trump. Prime element of a witch hunt.
Opposing attempted forcible rape is hardly 'puritanism'.
Gee I wonder where the 'libbies' learned that accusations of ages old sexual harassment (and lack of flowers at work) would effectively stop a process. False Puritanism? I'm pretty sure recent Republicans hold the patent for that.It’s a libbie tactic that when things don’t go their way, claim sexual misconduct from 14 to 40 years ago. Hope that false Puritanism will kick in with your audience and demand the accused prove himself innocent. They do it with Trump. Prime element of a witch hunt.
Continues to be quite odd here at USMB that these polls run 80-85% on the side of sanity yet the written responses are 50/50?Check out the poll. A reflection of America.
Gee I wonder where the 'libbies' learned that accusations of ages old sexual harassment (and lack of flowers at work) would effectively stop a process. False Puritanism? I'm pretty sure recent Republicans hold the patent for that.It’s a libbie tactic that when things don’t go their way, claim sexual misconduct from 14 to 40 years ago. Hope that false Puritanism will kick in with your audience and demand the accused prove himself innocent. They do it with Trump. Prime element of a witch hunt.
Have you not been paying attention? That question has been answered.A former FBI agent (unnamed) claims she took a lie detector testWhy didn't she come forward when he was being grilled for the DC bench???For Christ's sake, why would she wait for 40+ years to do anything about it?
This kind of nonsense is unbelievable, IMO.
That was very public too.
Or mention it in her 30's when Kavanaugh presided over her parents' case.
I think something happened to her or she would not have told her therapist. My suspicion is that she is using an incident perpetrated by someone else to take out Kavanaugh. It disturbs me that her account no longer matches her therapist's notes. She claims she can't remember much, but the therapist got it wrong. I don't see how one can claim the therapist's notes help her. They prove that her memory changed.
She passed a lie detector test. With witnesses affirming that she cited Kavanaugh as her attacker years before his hearing.
Would Kavanaugh also be willing to take a lie detector test?
Witnesses (unnamed) claimed stuff, before the hearing. Big whoop. Feinstein had this woman's information back in July. Plenty of time to arrange witnesses.
BTW, why didn't she bring it up as soon as he was nominated???
I post on another board I think of as the "fun board." This is the "angry board." Lotsa bitter biters here. They probably just post more often.Continues to be quite odd here at USMB that these polls run 80-85% on the side of sanity yet the written responses are 50/50?Check out the poll. A reflection of America.
The only conclusion is that one must question the legitimacy and veracity of many of the posters.
