Do you believe that we are now or will soon be overpopulated?

[there4eyeM]

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How about...if you want more kids...have them....if you don't, don't, and then everyone else mind their own business? The world isn't close to being fully populated let alone over populated and people who are wealthy have fewer children....as Capitalism creates wealth, even in the 3rd world, they too will have fewer children on their own.....without the jack boot of government telling them what to do.
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This seems based on responding to someone trying to tell others what to do. That was not the original sense of the thread. The question was if we believed the world to be overpopulated. Some of us believe so. I certainly make no proposal of what to do about it other than to express my thoughts. If that convinces others, so be it.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Democrats need over population and chaos, to win elections

If such a statement is true, why are so many of them cheerleaders for abortions. The only thing that happens when doing away with babies is getting rid of a future election voters.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[Dick Foster]

Well there are too damn many democrats that's for sure.

 

[2aguy]

Democrats need over population and chaos, to win elections

If such a statement is true, why are so many of them cheerleaders for abortions. The only thing that happens when doing away with babies is getting rid of a future election voters.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

They need the fear of overpopulation......they tell us all the time, never let a crisis go to waste...and they mean it....

 

[Slyhunter]

What is the motivation for so many people to have so many children? Isn't it really that offspring are the thoughtless result of simple physical pleasure in sex? With the slightest care, this pleasure can be had without making a baby. To bring a human into this world of pain and sorrow just because of a passing urge would seem to be against reason. There are far too many unreasonable people, so, in that way at least, the earth is overpopulated.

The basic motivation for procreation (sex) should no longer explain large families in civilized cultures. When starvation, war, or disease are no longer reasons for having many children to pass on our genes via survivors, and our human lifespans have doubled in the past 150 years, then why have large families?
Mindless ego? Mindless religion?
Fear of being alone when old?

I think parenthood is FUN overall, and i understand why some people have many offspring, but i wish all the children born are well nurtured too, and grow up being responsible citizens.
.

How about...if you want more kids...have them....if you don't, don't, and then everyone else mind their own business? The world isn't close to being fully populated let alone over populated and people who are wealthy have fewer children....as Capitalism creates wealth, even in the 3rd world, they too will have fewer children on their own.....without the jack boot of government telling them what to do.

Only those who can afford to support their own kids without help from the government should have kids.

 

[Slyhunter]

Democrats need over population and chaos, to win elections

If such a statement is true, why are so many of them cheerleaders for abortions. The only thing that happens when doing away with babies is getting rid of a future election voters.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

You know how you can prove Republicans value life highly when they value life even when it's a future Democrat voter being aborted.

 

[Unkotare]

What is the motivation for so many people to have so many children? Isn't it really that offspring are the thoughtless result of simple physical pleasure in sex? With the slightest care, this pleasure can be had without making a baby. To bring a human into this world of pain and sorrow just because of a passing urge would seem to be against reason. There are far too many unreasonable people, so, in that way at least, the earth is overpopulated.

The basic motivation for procreation (sex) should no longer explain large families in civilized cultures. When starvation, war, or disease are no longer reasons for having many children to pass on our genes via survivors, and our human lifespans have doubled in the past 150 years, then why have large families?
Mindless ego? Mindless religion?
Fear of being alone when old?

I think parenthood is FUN overall, and i understand why some people have many offspring, but i wish all the children born are well nurtured too, and grow up being responsible citizens.
.

How about...if you want more kids...have them....if you don't, don't, and then everyone else mind their own business? The world isn't close to being fully populated let alone over populated and people who are wealthy have fewer children....as Capitalism creates wealth, even in the 3rd world, they too will have fewer children on their own.....without the jack boot of government telling them what to do.

Only those who can afford to support their own kids without help from the government should have kids.

What do you do with a family that could support themselves when they had kids, but later fell on hard times (like what is happening to millions of Americans right now)? Kill them all? Forced sterilization? You want to go down that road?

 

[Slyhunter]

What is the motivation for so many people to have so many children? Isn't it really that offspring are the thoughtless result of simple physical pleasure in sex? With the slightest care, this pleasure can be had without making a baby. To bring a human into this world of pain and sorrow just because of a passing urge would seem to be against reason. There are far too many unreasonable people, so, in that way at least, the earth is overpopulated.

The basic motivation for procreation (sex) should no longer explain large families in civilized cultures. When starvation, war, or disease are no longer reasons for having many children to pass on our genes via survivors, and our human lifespans have doubled in the past 150 years, then why have large families?
Mindless ego? Mindless religion?
Fear of being alone when old?

I think parenthood is FUN overall, and i understand why some people have many offspring, but i wish all the children born are well nurtured too, and grow up being responsible citizens.
.

How about...if you want more kids...have them....if you don't, don't, and then everyone else mind their own business? The world isn't close to being fully populated let alone over populated and people who are wealthy have fewer children....as Capitalism creates wealth, even in the 3rd world, they too will have fewer children on their own.....without the jack boot of government telling them what to do.

Only those who can afford to support their own kids without help from the government should have kids.

What do you do with a family that could support themselves when they had kids, but later fell on hard times (like what is happening to millions of Americans right now)? Kill them all? Forced sterilization? You want to go down that road?

I'd make an exception on a case by case basis.

 

[Slyhunter]

What is the motivation for so many people to have so many children? Isn't it really that offspring are the thoughtless result of simple physical pleasure in sex? With the slightest care, this pleasure can be had without making a baby. To bring a human into this world of pain and sorrow just because of a passing urge would seem to be against reason. There are far too many unreasonable people, so, in that way at least, the earth is overpopulated.

The basic motivation for procreation (sex) should no longer explain large families in civilized cultures. When starvation, war, or disease are no longer reasons for having many children to pass on our genes via survivors, and our human lifespans have doubled in the past 150 years, then why have large families?
Mindless ego? Mindless religion?
Fear of being alone when old?

I think parenthood is FUN overall, and i understand why some people have many offspring, but i wish all the children born are well nurtured too, and grow up being responsible citizens.
.

How about...if you want more kids...have them....if you don't, don't, and then everyone else mind their own business? The world isn't close to being fully populated let alone over populated and people who are wealthy have fewer children....as Capitalism creates wealth, even in the 3rd world, they too will have fewer children on their own.....without the jack boot of government telling them what to do.

Only those who can afford to support their own kids without help from the government should have kids.

What do you do with a family that could support themselves when they had kids, but later fell on hard times (like what is happening to millions of Americans right now)? Kill them all? Forced sterilization? You want to go down that road?

It's not happening to millions of americans because of a virus. What is happening to millions of americans is because of a lockdown. I would not do the lockdown. Hiding from a disease is pointless. everyone will get it sooner or later. Best get it while it's weak so you can kick it's ass.

 

[PK1]

If nothing else, this thread sadly shows that we’ve got numbskulls who swallowed a false crisis in the 70s, and have been pacing the same street corner wearing a “The End is Near!” sandwich board for almost 50 years. The sign is cracked and faded, but these old fools are still trying to maintain a look of smug superiority on their wrinkled old nihilistic faces.

Fools are those who don’t heed Benjamin Franklin‘s advice: an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.
Earth’s population has doubled since the 1970s and quadrupled in the past 100 years. And urban areas have greatly increased in density and present major issues like pollution and pandemics.
You are the fool.
.

 

[Unkotare]

If nothing else, this thread sadly shows that we’ve got numbskulls who swallowed a false crisis in the 70s, and have been pacing the same street corner wearing a “The End is Near!” sandwich board for almost 50 years. The sign is cracked and faded, but these old fools are still trying to maintain a look of smug superiority on their wrinkled old nihilistic faces.

Fools are those who don’t heed Benjamin Franklin‘s advice: an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.
Earth’s population has doubled since the 1970s and quadrupled in the past 100 years. And urban areas have greatly increased in density and present major issues like pollution and pandemics.
You are the fool.
.

Relax, Chicken Little. We've still got plenty of room and resources, and demographics are trending toward an eventual global contraction. And guess what? With even half of the world's current population we would still have pollution, disease, war, and hunger. Those unfortunate aspects of life have existed as long as human society and they always will.

 

[2aguy]

If nothing else, this thread sadly shows that we’ve got numbskulls who swallowed a false crisis in the 70s, and have been pacing the same street corner wearing a “The End is Near!” sandwich board for almost 50 years. The sign is cracked and faded, but these old fools are still trying to maintain a look of smug superiority on their wrinkled old nihilistic faces.

Fools are those who don’t heed Benjamin Franklin‘s advice: an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.
Earth’s population has doubled since the 1970s and quadrupled in the past 100 years. And urban areas have greatly increased in density and present major issues like pollution and pandemics.
You are the fool.
.

No......western countries are experiencing declining birth rates...we don't have a problem.......and more and better pollution control will come with more wealth and technological innovation....

 

[PK1]

If nothing else, this thread sadly shows that we’ve got numbskulls who swallowed a false crisis in the 70s, and have been pacing the same street corner wearing a “The End is Near!” sandwich board for almost 50 years. The sign is cracked and faded, but these old fools are still trying to maintain a look of smug superiority on their wrinkled old nihilistic faces.

Fools are those who don’t heed Benjamin Franklin‘s advice: an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.
Earth’s population has doubled since the 1970s and quadrupled in the past 100 years. And urban areas have greatly increased in density and present major issues like pollution and pandemics.
You are the fool.
.

Relax, Chicken Little. We've still got plenty of room and resources, and demographics are trending toward an eventual global contraction. And guess what? With even half of the world's current population we would still have pollution, disease, war, and hunger. Those unfortunate aspects of life have existed as long as human society and they always will.

No, with half the world population, we would have significantly less pollution, and urban densities would be far less.
Most of the US population 100 years ago lived in rural areas.
Now, across most high-income countries (Western Europe, the Americas, Australia, Japan and the Middle East) more than 80% of the population live in urban areas.
With higher densities, we see more car traffic, urban pollution, and viral infections and pandemics.
.

 

[2aguy]

If nothing else, this thread sadly shows that we’ve got numbskulls who swallowed a false crisis in the 70s, and have been pacing the same street corner wearing a “The End is Near!” sandwich board for almost 50 years. The sign is cracked and faded, but these old fools are still trying to maintain a look of smug superiority on their wrinkled old nihilistic faces.

Fools are those who don’t heed Benjamin Franklin‘s advice: an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.
Earth’s population has doubled since the 1970s and quadrupled in the past 100 years. And urban areas have greatly increased in density and present major issues like pollution and pandemics.
You are the fool.
.

Relax, Chicken Little. We've still got plenty of room and resources, and demographics are trending toward an eventual global contraction. And guess what? With even half of the world's current population we would still have pollution, disease, war, and hunger. Those unfortunate aspects of life have existed as long as human society and they always will.

No, with half the world population, we would have significantly less pollution, and urban densities would be far less.
Most of the US population 100 years ago lived in rural areas.
Now, across most high-income countries (Western Europe, the Americas, Australia, Japan and the Middle East) more than 80% of the population live in urban areas.
With higher densities, we see more car traffic, urban pollution, and viral infections and pandemics.
.

No...no matter what the population level humans group into specific areas, and with more wealth and more technology all of those issues are being taken care of.......

 

[Unkotare]

If nothing else, this thread sadly shows that we’ve got numbskulls who swallowed a false crisis in the 70s, and have been pacing the same street corner wearing a “The End is Near!” sandwich board for almost 50 years. The sign is cracked and faded, but these old fools are still trying to maintain a look of smug superiority on their wrinkled old nihilistic faces.

Fools are those who don’t heed Benjamin Franklin‘s advice: an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.
Earth’s population has doubled since the 1970s and quadrupled in the past 100 years. And urban areas have greatly increased in density and present major issues like pollution and pandemics.
You are the fool.
.

Relax, Chicken Little. We've still got plenty of room and resources, and demographics are trending toward an eventual global contraction. And guess what? With even half of the world's current population we would still have pollution, disease, war, and hunger. Those unfortunate aspects of life have existed as long as human society and they always will.

No, with half the world population, we would have significantly less pollution, and urban densities would be far less.
Most of the US population 100 years ago lived in rural areas.
Now, across most high-income countries (Western Europe, the Americas, Australia, Japan and the Middle East) more than 80% of the population live in urban areas.
With higher densities, we see more car traffic, urban pollution, and viral infections and pandemics.
.

Fail.

Remember how the Conquistadors met the Native Americans and so many Indians dropped dead of diseases that Europe had largely developed a herd immunity for? Do you know why? The answer goes back to the first permanent settlements and the domestication of animals in the Old World. Global population was much smaller then.

The Black Death wiped out almost half of Europe and many more in China, and that was almost 700 years ago - when the global population was much smaller.

European immigrants crammed into tenements in cities like NY over 100 years there was a terrible degree of disease, pollution, and crime. Much more intense than NY today despite there being a smaller pop

Air pollution was much worse in LA in the 1980s than today, but our population is larger now.

Starting to get the picture?

 

[PK1]

If nothing else, this thread sadly shows that we’ve got numbskulls who swallowed a false crisis in the 70s, and have been pacing the same street corner wearing a “The End is Near!” sandwich board for almost 50 years. The sign is cracked and faded, but these old fools are still trying to maintain a look of smug superiority on their wrinkled old nihilistic faces.

Fools are those who don’t heed Benjamin Franklin‘s advice: an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.
Earth’s population has doubled since the 1970s and quadrupled in the past 100 years. And urban areas have greatly increased in density and present major issues like pollution and pandemics.
You are the fool.
.

Relax, Chicken Little. We've still got plenty of room and resources, and demographics are trending toward an eventual global contraction. And guess what? With even half of the world's current population we would still have pollution, disease, war, and hunger. Those unfortunate aspects of life have existed as long as human society and they always will.

No, with half the world population, we would have significantly less pollution, and urban densities would be far less.
Most of the US population 100 years ago lived in rural areas.
Now, across most high-income countries (Western Europe, the Americas, Australia, Japan and the Middle East) more than 80% of the population live in urban areas.
With higher densities, we see more car traffic, urban pollution, and viral infections and pandemics.
.

Fail.

Remember how the Conquistadors met the Native Americans and so many Indians dropped dead of diseases that Europe had largely developed a herd immunity for? Do you know why? The answer goes back to the first permanent settlements and the domestication of animals in the Old World. Global population was much smaller then.

The Black Death wiped out almost half of Europe and many more in China, and that was almost 700 years ago - when the global population was much smaller.

European immigrants crammed into tenements in cities like NY over 100 years there was a terrible degree of disease, pollution, and crime. Much more intense than NY today despite there being a smaller pop

Air pollution was much worse in LA in the 1980s than today, but our population is larger now.

Starting to get the picture?

You’re polluting the discussion with irrelevant historical, cultural, & geographic variables.
Yes, thanks to bipartisan support for the
creation of EPA in 1970, LA & elsewhere has significantly reduced air pollution from cars/etc, but all other things being equal:

With higher population densities, we see more car traffic, urban pollution, and viral infections ... unless the pandemic keeps people at home.

Starting to get the picture?
.

 

[PK1]

If nothing else, this thread sadly shows that we’ve got numbskulls who swallowed a false crisis in the 70s, and have been pacing the same street corner wearing a “The End is Near!” sandwich board for almost 50 years. The sign is cracked and faded, but these old fools are still trying to maintain a look of smug superiority on their wrinkled old nihilistic faces.

Fools are those who don’t heed Benjamin Franklin‘s advice: an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.
Earth’s population has doubled since the 1970s and quadrupled in the past 100 years. And urban areas have greatly increased in density and present major issues like pollution and pandemics.
You are the fool.
.

Relax, Chicken Little. We've still got plenty of room and resources, and demographics are trending toward an eventual global contraction. And guess what? With even half of the world's current population we would still have pollution, disease, war, and hunger. Those unfortunate aspects of life have existed as long as human society and they always will.

No, with half the world population, we would have significantly less pollution, and urban densities would be far less.
Most of the US population 100 years ago lived in rural areas.
Now, across most high-income countries (Western Europe, the Americas, Australia, Japan and the Middle East) more than 80% of the population live in urban areas.
With higher densities, we see more car traffic, urban pollution, and viral infections and pandemics.
.

No...no matter what the population level humans group into specific areas, and with more wealth and more technology all of those issues are being taken care of.......

And the current Covid pandemic is taking care of those population problems ...

In cities across the United States, traffic on roads and highways has fallen dramatically over the past week as the coronavirus outbreak forces people to stay at home and everyday life grinds to a halt.

Pollution has dropped too.

A satellite that detects emissions in the atmosphere linked to cars and trucks shows huge declines in pollution over major metropolitan areas, including Los Angeles, Seattle, New York, Chicago and Atlanta.

Traffic and Pollution Plummet as U.S. Cities Shut Down for Coronavirus (Published 2020)

A satellite that detects pollution linked to cars and trucks shows declines over major metropolitan areas, including Los Angeles, Seattle, and New York.

www.nytimes.com

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[gipper]

If nothing else, this thread sadly shows that we’ve got numbskulls who swallowed a false crisis in the 70s, and have been pacing the same street corner wearing a “The End is Near!” sandwich board for almost 50 years. The sign is cracked and faded, but these old fools are still trying to maintain a look of smug superiority on their wrinkled old nihilistic faces.

Fools are those who don’t heed Benjamin Franklin‘s advice: an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.
Earth’s population has doubled since the 1970s and quadrupled in the past 100 years. And urban areas have greatly increased in density and present major issues like pollution and pandemics.
You are the fool.
.

No......western countries are experiencing declining birth rates...we don't have a problem.......and more and better pollution control will come with more wealth and technological innovation....

I have a close family member who truly believes global warming, overpopulation, and pollution are destroying the planet. He has become obsessed with this. He has told my children not to have children. Thankfully they know he’s a nut and have ignored him.

Technology if government doesn’t impede it, will and is fixing our problems.

 

[PK1]

If nothing else, this thread sadly shows that we’ve got numbskulls who swallowed a false crisis in the 70s, and have been pacing the same street corner wearing a “The End is Near!” sandwich board for almost 50 years. The sign is cracked and faded, but these old fools are still trying to maintain a look of smug superiority on their wrinkled old nihilistic faces.

Fools are those who don’t heed Benjamin Franklin‘s advice: an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.
Earth’s population has doubled since the 1970s and quadrupled in the past 100 years. And urban areas have greatly increased in density and present major issues like pollution and pandemics.
You are the fool.
.

No......western countries are experiencing declining birth rates...we don't have a problem.......and more and better pollution control will come with more wealth and technological innovation....

I have a close family member who truly believes global warming, overpopulation, and pollution are destroying the planet. He has become obsessed with this. He has told my children not to have children. Thankfully they know he’s a nut and have ignored him.

Technology if government doesn’t impede it, will and is fixing our problems.

And SCIENCE, if government doesn’t impede it, will assess and help fix our population problems.
.

 

[Unkotare]

...
You’re polluting the discussion with irrelevant historical, cultural, & geographic variables.
...
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Sucks when reality gets in the way of your agenda, huh?