Do You Face Mask Shield Wearing

[Skylar]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

How do you look when you`re hooked up to a ventilator?

Like death is knocking at your door!

I‘be been hooked to one twice in my life, and will tell any fool wear your damn mask even if it is the slightest chance it will stop this virus!

Three times a charm.

No, and you being a Christian you should be ashamed of your comment!

I thought catholics are not christian?

Southern Baptists don't consider Catholics "true" Christians. But yeah, they're Christians.

To me its like listening to TNG and TOS fans argue about who would win in a fight, Kirk or Picard.

 

[Wyatt earp]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

How do you look when you`re hooked up to a ventilator?

Like death is knocking at your door!

I‘be been hooked to one twice in my life, and will tell any fool wear your damn mask even if it is the slightest chance it will stop this virus!

Three times a charm.

No, and you being a Christian you should be ashamed of your comment!

I thought catholics are not christian?

Southern Baptists don't consider Catholics "true" Christians.

I know ....that's why I posted it

 

[Erinwltr]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

How do you look when you`re hooked up to a ventilator?

Like death is knocking at your door!

I‘be been hooked to one twice in my life, and will tell any fool wear your damn mask even if it is the slightest chance it will stop this virus!

Three times a charm.

No, and you being a Christian you should be ashamed of your comment!

I thought catholics are not christian?

Southern Baptists don't consider Catholics "true" Christians.

I know ....that's why I posted it

Oh, I get it. Sorry.

 

[Wyatt earp]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

How do you look when you`re hooked up to a ventilator?

Like death is knocking at your door!

I‘be been hooked to one twice in my life, and will tell any fool wear your damn mask even if it is the slightest chance it will stop this virus!

Three times a charm.

No, and you being a Christian you should be ashamed of your comment!

I thought catholics are not christian?

Southern Baptists don't consider Catholics "true" Christians. But yeah, they're Christians.

To me its like listening to TNG and TOS fans argue about who would win in a fight, Kirk or Picard.

Catholic means the universal church, the church came first then the NT

 

[Devils_Advocate]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

*Just* face shields? Or face shields over a mask?

If its the former, yeah....that's fairly pointless. If its the latter, its the protocol our medical workers use on the front line of the pandemic.

All of this shit is just "feel" good shit.

Say who? There's you, citing you.

Because if that's it, I'm gonna go with the teams of infectionous disease specialists with collective centuries of relevant experience over some random guy on a message board that insists he knows better.

Sure thing except that none of it has worked.

Then tell your doctor that you demand they do not wear masks, gloves or any protective equipment when they do a surgery on you, and my bet is your Doctor will tell you to find another Doctor because you are nuts!

Masks and protective gear can protect you and has been used for over a century in operating rooms!

Only someone that believe everything they read on the internet would believe medical protective gear like masks would not protect you...

Also you just admitted you think Trump is a moron for wearing a Mask or for allowing the CDC to post it guidelines about mask wearing!

It doesn't protect you, it protects me from your germs

It also help protect the Doctor from germs when they are wearing the gloves, gowns, masks and shields and to say it does not is a damn lie!

No it protects the patient who has open wounds, we really have to make sure and spread this information, to be courteous to one another wear a face mask at least, stand 6 feet away..

Your stupid germs can infect others that is not as strong as your amune system

You are one ignorant asshole that has no clue about how it protect the patient and doctor!

The face shield is to protect the doctor from blood splattering that could contain a virus like AIDS.

Also the mask is for both the patient and doctor and that is why a Doctor will wear a mask around Covid patients while wearing the damn shield because of the possibility of the spread and wear a gown and gloves!

See it amazes me how ignorant Trumpsters can be on simple medical gear while believing that Covid is the damn flu!

Your ignorant ass would have a doctor walk into a room with no protection at all and then proclaim they would have not been protected even if they worn the shield and mask, gown and gloves because you have no clue how the virus is spread and believe it is the simple flu!

Covid is a form of viral pneumonia and spread through the air with a sneeze, cough or just speaking.

It attack the lungs after it get into the system causing you to contract pneumonia which causes people with pre-existing conditions to dies quicker than others but those that have contracted it could later develop lung issues like COPD...

Did you ever ask yourself why they used a Steroid and certain antibiotics to cure Trump?

Simple, it is pneumonia and not the flu!

Now getting back to your stupid assertion that protective gear only protect the patient is your damn ignorance!

It protect both the medical staff and patient from possible infections that can occur during surgery and routine physicals.

Your doctor is not wearing the mask and shield in a possible Covid case because they fear you will get it from them but they fear you will give it to them!

But of course you will lie and deny all this and why?

Because your ignorant ass believe Covid is the flu!

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

How do you look when you`re hooked up to a ventilator?

Like death is knocking at your door!

I‘be been hooked to one twice in my life, and will tell any fool wear your damn mask even if it is the slightest chance it will stop this virus!

Three times a charm.

No, and you being a Christian you should be ashamed of your comment!

I thought catholics are not christian?

I doubt you are anything but some loser trying to get people killed!

 

[Devils_Advocate]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

How do you look when you`re hooked up to a ventilator?

Like death is knocking at your door!

I‘be been hooked to one twice in my life, and will tell any fool wear your damn mask even if it is the slightest chance it will stop this virus!

Three times a charm.

No, and you being a Christian you should be ashamed of your comment!

I thought catholics are not christian?

Southern Baptists don't consider Catholics "true" Christians.

I know ....that's why I posted it

Oh, I get it. Sorry.

I am not Southern Baptists nor Catholic...

I am agnostic!

 

[Wyatt earp]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

*Just* face shields? Or face shields over a mask?

If its the former, yeah....that's fairly pointless. If its the latter, its the protocol our medical workers use on the front line of the pandemic.

All of this shit is just "feel" good shit.

Say who? There's you, citing you.

Because if that's it, I'm gonna go with the teams of infectionous disease specialists with collective centuries of relevant experience over some random guy on a message board that insists he knows better.

Sure thing except that none of it has worked.

Then tell your doctor that you demand they do not wear masks, gloves or any protective equipment when they do a surgery on you, and my bet is your Doctor will tell you to find another Doctor because you are nuts!

Masks and protective gear can protect you and has been used for over a century in operating rooms!

Only someone that believe everything they read on the internet would believe medical protective gear like masks would not protect you...

Also you just admitted you think Trump is a moron for wearing a Mask or for allowing the CDC to post it guidelines about mask wearing!

It doesn't protect you, it protects me from your germs

It also help protect the Doctor from germs when they are wearing the gloves, gowns, masks and shields and to say it does not is a damn lie!

No it protects the patient who has open wounds, we really have to make sure and spread this information, to be courteous to one another wear a face mask at least, stand 6 feet away..

Your stupid germs can infect others that is not as strong as your amune system

You are one ignorant asshole that has no clue about how it protect the patient and doctor!

The face shield is to protect the doctor from blood splattering that could contain a virus like AIDS.

Also the mask is for both the patient and doctor and that is why a Doctor will wear a mask around Covid patients while wearing the damn shield because of the possibility of the spread and wear a gown and gloves!

See it amazes me how ignorant Trumpsters can be on simple medical gear while believing that Covid is the damn flu!

Your ignorant ass would have a doctor walk into a room with no protection at all and then proclaim they would have not been protected even if they worn the shield and mask, gown and gloves because you have no clue how the virus is spread and believe it is the simple flu!

Covid is a form of viral pneumonia and spread through the air with a sneeze, cough or just speaking.

It attack the lungs after it get into the system causing you to contract pneumonia which causes people with pre-existing conditions to dies quicker than others but those that have contracted it could later develop lung issues like COPD...

Did you ever ask yourself why they used a Steroid and certain antibiotics to cure Trump?

Simple, it is pneumonia and not the flu!

Now getting back to your stupid assertion that protective gear only protect the patient is your damn ignorance!

It protect both the medical staff and patient from possible infections that can occur during surgery and routine physicals.

Your doctor is not wearing the mask and shield in a possible Covid case because they fear you will get it from them but they fear you will give it to them!

But of course you will lie and deny all this and why?

Because your ignorant ass believe Covid is the flu!

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

How do you look when you`re hooked up to a ventilator?

Like death is knocking at your door!

I‘be been hooked to one twice in my life, and will tell any fool wear your damn mask even if it is the slightest chance it will stop this virus!

Three times a charm.

No, and you being a Christian you should be ashamed of your comment!

I thought catholics are not christian?

I doubt you are anything but some loser trying to get people killed!

No it's not to protect the doctor, it's about protecting the patient, they are doing a job to prolong your life not theirs.

 

[Wyatt earp]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

How do you look when you`re hooked up to a ventilator?

Like death is knocking at your door!

I‘be been hooked to one twice in my life, and will tell any fool wear your damn mask even if it is the slightest chance it will stop this virus!

Three times a charm.

No, and you being a Christian you should be ashamed of your comment!

I thought catholics are not christian?

Southern Baptists don't consider Catholics "true" Christians.

I know ....that's why I posted it

Oh, I get it. Sorry.

I am not Southern Baptists nor Catholic...

I am agnostic!

Of course you are that's why you have fear

 

[Juicin]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

*Just* face shields? Or face shields over a mask?

If its the former, yeah....that's fairly pointless. If its the latter, its the protocol our medical workers use on the front line of the pandemic.

If medical professionals want to protect themselves there are full body suits and filters....That's not what they're doing. 1 micron filters

No reason to think the masks have any substantive effect on 1 micron large virus molecules. THere is very little functional difference between a face shield and a mask. A face shield makes more sense you're not using a very quickly dirty little piece of cloth to "filter" the air you breathe. Even tho cloth can't filter anything relevant to a virus but phlegm.

Coughing into the crook of your arm works just as well. Singing mask on or off is still spouting virus molecules into the air without an intense filtration system.

 

[WinterBorn]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

*Just* face shields? Or face shields over a mask?

If its the former, yeah....that's fairly pointless. If its the latter, its the protocol our medical workers use on the front line of the pandemic.

If medical professionals want to protect themselves there are full body suits and filters....That's not what they're doing. 1 micron filters

No reason to think the masks have any substantive effect on 1 micron large virus molecules. THere is very little functional difference between a face shield and a mask. A face shield makes more sense you're not using a very quickly dirty little piece of cloth to "filter" the air you breathe. Even tho cloth can't filter anything relevant to a virus but phlegm.

Coughing into the crook of your arm works just as well. Singing mask on or off is still spouting virus molecules into the air without an intense filtration system.

The mask is not meant to filter a virus that is only 1 micron in size. But the virus does not leave the body as an independent, 1 micron, entity. It leaves the body in particles of moisture. Those water particles are much bigger than 1 micron. The fact that a mask is damp after being worn for 30 mins or so proves this. That means every bit of moisture caught by the mask reduces the viral exposure of everyone around you.

 

[Juicin]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

*Just* face shields? Or face shields over a mask?

If its the former, yeah....that's fairly pointless. If its the latter, its the protocol our medical workers use on the front line of the pandemic.

If medical professionals want to protect themselves there are full body suits and filters....That's not what they're doing. 1 micron filters

No reason to think the masks have any substantive effect on 1 micron large virus molecules. THere is very little functional difference between a face shield and a mask. A face shield makes more sense you're not using a very quickly dirty little piece of cloth to "filter" the air you breathe. Even tho cloth can't filter anything relevant to a virus but phlegm.

Coughing into the crook of your arm works just as well. Singing mask on or off is still spouting virus molecules into the air without an intense filtration system.

The mask is not meant to filter a virus that is only 1 micron in size. But the virus does not leave the body as an independent, 1 micron, entity. It leaves the body in particles of moisture. Those water particles are much bigger than 1 micron. The fact that a mask is damp after being worn for 30 mins or so proves this. That means every bit of moisture caught by the mask reduces the viral exposure of everyone around you.

It leaves the body at all ranges

I take your point you're soaking up some moisture, but it's security theater. No evidence to suggest it will even reduce viral load much less be safe.

You're not changing the risk profile of anyone. Medical professionals wear cloth masks to stop you from accidentally spitting part of your lunch in an open wound. THere is no evidence it does ANYTHING for viruses. Which is why we have no data to suggest that it does, and the CDC was reticent to recommend that move.

The only place in the world that uses cloth masks that way also drink tiger dick soup for virility and send their kids to acupuncture.

Places with mask mandates still getting crushed in the west. The masks are not the golden bullet, neither are quarantines, just washing your hands and being polite is the best path.

In the west we used to know if you want to use a mask it has to have a very fine filter or it's pointless.

 

[WinterBorn]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

*Just* face shields? Or face shields over a mask?

If its the former, yeah....that's fairly pointless. If its the latter, its the protocol our medical workers use on the front line of the pandemic.

If medical professionals want to protect themselves there are full body suits and filters....That's not what they're doing. 1 micron filters

No reason to think the masks have any substantive effect on 1 micron large virus molecules. THere is very little functional difference between a face shield and a mask. A face shield makes more sense you're not using a very quickly dirty little piece of cloth to "filter" the air you breathe. Even tho cloth can't filter anything relevant to a virus but phlegm.

Coughing into the crook of your arm works just as well. Singing mask on or off is still spouting virus molecules into the air without an intense filtration system.

The mask is not meant to filter a virus that is only 1 micron in size. But the virus does not leave the body as an independent, 1 micron, entity. It leaves the body in particles of moisture. Those water particles are much bigger than 1 micron. The fact that a mask is damp after being worn for 30 mins or so proves this. That means every bit of moisture caught by the mask reduces the viral exposure of everyone around you.

It leaves the body at all ranges

I take your point you're soaking up some moisture, but it's security theater. No evidence to suggest it will even reduce viral load much less be safe.

You're not changing the risk profile of anyone. Medical professionals wear cloth masks to stop you from accidentally spitting part of your lunch in an open wound. THere is no evidence it does ANYTHING for viruses. Which is why we have no data to suggest that it does, and the CDC was reticent to recommend that move.

The only place in the world that uses cloth masks that way also drink tiger dick soup for virility and send their kids to acupuncture.

Places with mask mandates still getting crushed in the west. The masks are not the golden bullet, neither are quarantines, just washing your hands and being polite is the best path.

In the west we used to know if you want to use a mask it has to have a very fine filter or it's pointless.

If the virus is spread mainly through the water particles from breath, sneezing or coughing, and your mask stops much of the moisture, then it does, in fact, reduce the amount of virus you spread.

No, masks are not the golden bullet. But they are better than just washing hands and being polite.

 

[Juicin]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

*Just* face shields? Or face shields over a mask?

If its the former, yeah....that's fairly pointless. If its the latter, its the protocol our medical workers use on the front line of the pandemic.

If medical professionals want to protect themselves there are full body suits and filters....That's not what they're doing. 1 micron filters

No reason to think the masks have any substantive effect on 1 micron large virus molecules. THere is very little functional difference between a face shield and a mask. A face shield makes more sense you're not using a very quickly dirty little piece of cloth to "filter" the air you breathe. Even tho cloth can't filter anything relevant to a virus but phlegm.

Coughing into the crook of your arm works just as well. Singing mask on or off is still spouting virus molecules into the air without an intense filtration system.

The mask is not meant to filter a virus that is only 1 micron in size. But the virus does not leave the body as an independent, 1 micron, entity. It leaves the body in particles of moisture. Those water particles are much bigger than 1 micron. The fact that a mask is damp after being worn for 30 mins or so proves this. That means every bit of moisture caught by the mask reduces the viral exposure of everyone around you.

It leaves the body at all ranges

I take your point you're soaking up some moisture, but it's security theater. No evidence to suggest it will even reduce viral load much less be safe.

You're not changing the risk profile of anyone. Medical professionals wear cloth masks to stop you from accidentally spitting part of your lunch in an open wound. THere is no evidence it does ANYTHING for viruses. Which is why we have no data to suggest that it does, and the CDC was reticent to recommend that move.

The only place in the world that uses cloth masks that way also drink tiger dick soup for virility and send their kids to acupuncture.

Places with mask mandates still getting crushed in the west. The masks are not the golden bullet, neither are quarantines, just washing your hands and being polite is the best path.

In the west we used to know if you want to use a mask it has to have a very fine filter or it's pointless.

If the virus is spread mainly through the water particles from breath, sneezing or coughing, and your mask stops much of the moisture, then it does, in fact, reduce the amount of virus you spread.

No, masks are not the golden bullet. But they are better than just washing hands and being polite.

That is not replicatable science

That is ridiculous conjecture not backed up by what we know about viruses. Which is if you want to have any expectation of non transmission you need to put on a body suit with a filter. Full protection

Virus molecules do not only exist in moisture, which is why there is again zero replicatable science to prove what you're saying. And again why the CDC didn't immediately recommend buying out masks and all of us wearing them.

It's security theater for hospital workers and citizens

No different than pretending we're stopping terrorists with the TSA. No evidence anything is actually making us safer here.

All the data comparing mask mandated places to non says it does fuckign nothing.

 

[WinterBorn]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

*Just* face shields? Or face shields over a mask?

If its the former, yeah....that's fairly pointless. If its the latter, its the protocol our medical workers use on the front line of the pandemic.

If medical professionals want to protect themselves there are full body suits and filters....That's not what they're doing. 1 micron filters

No reason to think the masks have any substantive effect on 1 micron large virus molecules. THere is very little functional difference between a face shield and a mask. A face shield makes more sense you're not using a very quickly dirty little piece of cloth to "filter" the air you breathe. Even tho cloth can't filter anything relevant to a virus but phlegm.

Coughing into the crook of your arm works just as well. Singing mask on or off is still spouting virus molecules into the air without an intense filtration system.

The mask is not meant to filter a virus that is only 1 micron in size. But the virus does not leave the body as an independent, 1 micron, entity. It leaves the body in particles of moisture. Those water particles are much bigger than 1 micron. The fact that a mask is damp after being worn for 30 mins or so proves this. That means every bit of moisture caught by the mask reduces the viral exposure of everyone around you.

It leaves the body at all ranges

I take your point you're soaking up some moisture, but it's security theater. No evidence to suggest it will even reduce viral load much less be safe.

You're not changing the risk profile of anyone. Medical professionals wear cloth masks to stop you from accidentally spitting part of your lunch in an open wound. THere is no evidence it does ANYTHING for viruses. Which is why we have no data to suggest that it does, and the CDC was reticent to recommend that move.

The only place in the world that uses cloth masks that way also drink tiger dick soup for virility and send their kids to acupuncture.

Places with mask mandates still getting crushed in the west. The masks are not the golden bullet, neither are quarantines, just washing your hands and being polite is the best path.

In the west we used to know if you want to use a mask it has to have a very fine filter or it's pointless.

If the virus is spread mainly through the water particles from breath, sneezing or coughing, and your mask stops much of the moisture, then it does, in fact, reduce the amount of virus you spread.

No, masks are not the golden bullet. But they are better than just washing hands and being polite.

That is not replicatable science

That is ridiculous conjecture not backed up by what we know about the virus

Virus molecules do not only exist in moisture, which is why there is again zero replicatable science to prove what you're saying. And again why the CDC didn't immediately recommend buying out masks.

It's security theater

Ok, lets look at it in a simpler way.


Is the covid virus present in the water droplets from breath, sneezes and coughs? The answer is 'Yes'.

When you wear a mask, even for a relatively short time, is the inside of the mask damp (especially if you sneeze or cough)? The answer, once again is 'Yes'.

So the difference between not wearing a mask and wearing a mask is the moisture contained in the mask. And each droplet of water in that moisture contains covid virus.

So there is an obvious reduction in the amount of virus that is spread by wearing a mask.

 

[Juicin]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

*Just* face shields? Or face shields over a mask?

If its the former, yeah....that's fairly pointless. If its the latter, its the protocol our medical workers use on the front line of the pandemic.

If medical professionals want to protect themselves there are full body suits and filters....That's not what they're doing. 1 micron filters

No reason to think the masks have any substantive effect on 1 micron large virus molecules. THere is very little functional difference between a face shield and a mask. A face shield makes more sense you're not using a very quickly dirty little piece of cloth to "filter" the air you breathe. Even tho cloth can't filter anything relevant to a virus but phlegm.

Coughing into the crook of your arm works just as well. Singing mask on or off is still spouting virus molecules into the air without an intense filtration system.

The mask is not meant to filter a virus that is only 1 micron in size. But the virus does not leave the body as an independent, 1 micron, entity. It leaves the body in particles of moisture. Those water particles are much bigger than 1 micron. The fact that a mask is damp after being worn for 30 mins or so proves this. That means every bit of moisture caught by the mask reduces the viral exposure of everyone around you.

It leaves the body at all ranges

I take your point you're soaking up some moisture, but it's security theater. No evidence to suggest it will even reduce viral load much less be safe.

You're not changing the risk profile of anyone. Medical professionals wear cloth masks to stop you from accidentally spitting part of your lunch in an open wound. THere is no evidence it does ANYTHING for viruses. Which is why we have no data to suggest that it does, and the CDC was reticent to recommend that move.

The only place in the world that uses cloth masks that way also drink tiger dick soup for virility and send their kids to acupuncture.

Places with mask mandates still getting crushed in the west. The masks are not the golden bullet, neither are quarantines, just washing your hands and being polite is the best path.

In the west we used to know if you want to use a mask it has to have a very fine filter or it's pointless.

If the virus is spread mainly through the water particles from breath, sneezing or coughing, and your mask stops much of the moisture, then it does, in fact, reduce the amount of virus you spread.

No, masks are not the golden bullet. But they are better than just washing hands and being polite.

That is not replicatable science

That is ridiculous conjecture not backed up by what we know about the virus

Virus molecules do not only exist in moisture, which is why there is again zero replicatable science to prove what you're saying. And again why the CDC didn't immediately recommend buying out masks.

It's security theater

Ok, lets look at it in a simpler way.


Is the covid virus present in the water droplets from breath, sneezes and coughs? The answer is 'Yes'.

When you wear a mask, even for a relatively short time, is the inside of the mask damp (especially if you sneeze or cough)? The answer, once again is 'Yes'.

So the difference between not wearing a mask and wearing a mask is the moisture contained in the mask. And each droplet of water in that moisture contains covid virus.

So there is an obvious reduction in the amount of virus that is spread by wearing a mask.

No one is denying you throw water at a tennis net you stop some water, the question is does it have any bearing on keeping me dry on the other side

And the answer to that is no

And the major difference is the tennis net doesn't put me at risk for lung infection, which will kill me. Unlike a corona virus

There is no evidence pre pandemic cloth masks work on viruses, had generations to test this. No evidence anecdotally during the pandemic. Wearing masks doesn't lower death rates.

Soooo we're left with just you hoping. And you should just shut the fuck up. Not changing your risk profile in any substantive way that would justify anyone giving a shit about whether or not you're wearing a mask.

 

[WinterBorn]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

*Just* face shields? Or face shields over a mask?

If its the former, yeah....that's fairly pointless. If its the latter, its the protocol our medical workers use on the front line of the pandemic.

If medical professionals want to protect themselves there are full body suits and filters....That's not what they're doing. 1 micron filters

No reason to think the masks have any substantive effect on 1 micron large virus molecules. THere is very little functional difference between a face shield and a mask. A face shield makes more sense you're not using a very quickly dirty little piece of cloth to "filter" the air you breathe. Even tho cloth can't filter anything relevant to a virus but phlegm.

Coughing into the crook of your arm works just as well. Singing mask on or off is still spouting virus molecules into the air without an intense filtration system.

The mask is not meant to filter a virus that is only 1 micron in size. But the virus does not leave the body as an independent, 1 micron, entity. It leaves the body in particles of moisture. Those water particles are much bigger than 1 micron. The fact that a mask is damp after being worn for 30 mins or so proves this. That means every bit of moisture caught by the mask reduces the viral exposure of everyone around you.

It leaves the body at all ranges

I take your point you're soaking up some moisture, but it's security theater. No evidence to suggest it will even reduce viral load much less be safe.

You're not changing the risk profile of anyone. Medical professionals wear cloth masks to stop you from accidentally spitting part of your lunch in an open wound. THere is no evidence it does ANYTHING for viruses. Which is why we have no data to suggest that it does, and the CDC was reticent to recommend that move.

The only place in the world that uses cloth masks that way also drink tiger dick soup for virility and send their kids to acupuncture.

Places with mask mandates still getting crushed in the west. The masks are not the golden bullet, neither are quarantines, just washing your hands and being polite is the best path.

In the west we used to know if you want to use a mask it has to have a very fine filter or it's pointless.

If the virus is spread mainly through the water particles from breath, sneezing or coughing, and your mask stops much of the moisture, then it does, in fact, reduce the amount of virus you spread.

No, masks are not the golden bullet. But they are better than just washing hands and being polite.

That is not replicatable science

That is ridiculous conjecture not backed up by what we know about the virus

Virus molecules do not only exist in moisture, which is why there is again zero replicatable science to prove what you're saying. And again why the CDC didn't immediately recommend buying out masks.

It's security theater

Ok, lets look at it in a simpler way.


Is the covid virus present in the water droplets from breath, sneezes and coughs? The answer is 'Yes'.

When you wear a mask, even for a relatively short time, is the inside of the mask damp (especially if you sneeze or cough)? The answer, once again is 'Yes'.

So the difference between not wearing a mask and wearing a mask is the moisture contained in the mask. And each droplet of water in that moisture contains covid virus.

So there is an obvious reduction in the amount of virus that is spread by wearing a mask.

No one is denying you throw water at a tennis net you stop some water, the question is does it have any bearing on keeping me dry on the other side

And the answer to that is no

And the major difference is the tennis net doesn't put me at risk for lung infection, which will kill me. Unlike a corona virus

There is no evidence pre pandemic cloth masks work on viruses, had generations to test this. No evidence anecdotally during the pandemic. Wearing masks doesn't lower death rates.

Soooo we're left with just you hoping. And you should just shut the fuck up. Not changing your risk profile in any substantive way that would justify anyone giving a shit about whether or not you're wearing a mask.

LMAO! I'm sorry. I know you would prefer it if everyone just accepted what you say without argument. This is the wrong place for that.

 

[Juicin]

People understand how stupid you look? You're wearing a shield that blocks nothing and a face mask that stops nothing. But hey.....you "feel" better right?

*Just* face shields? Or face shields over a mask?

If its the former, yeah....that's fairly pointless. If its the latter, its the protocol our medical workers use on the front line of the pandemic.

If medical professionals want to protect themselves there are full body suits and filters....That's not what they're doing. 1 micron filters

No reason to think the masks have any substantive effect on 1 micron large virus molecules. THere is very little functional difference between a face shield and a mask. A face shield makes more sense you're not using a very quickly dirty little piece of cloth to "filter" the air you breathe. Even tho cloth can't filter anything relevant to a virus but phlegm.

Coughing into the crook of your arm works just as well. Singing mask on or off is still spouting virus molecules into the air without an intense filtration system.

The mask is not meant to filter a virus that is only 1 micron in size. But the virus does not leave the body as an independent, 1 micron, entity. It leaves the body in particles of moisture. Those water particles are much bigger than 1 micron. The fact that a mask is damp after being worn for 30 mins or so proves this. That means every bit of moisture caught by the mask reduces the viral exposure of everyone around you.

It leaves the body at all ranges

I take your point you're soaking up some moisture, but it's security theater. No evidence to suggest it will even reduce viral load much less be safe.

You're not changing the risk profile of anyone. Medical professionals wear cloth masks to stop you from accidentally spitting part of your lunch in an open wound. THere is no evidence it does ANYTHING for viruses. Which is why we have no data to suggest that it does, and the CDC was reticent to recommend that move.

The only place in the world that uses cloth masks that way also drink tiger dick soup for virility and send their kids to acupuncture.

Places with mask mandates still getting crushed in the west. The masks are not the golden bullet, neither are quarantines, just washing your hands and being polite is the best path.

In the west we used to know if you want to use a mask it has to have a very fine filter or it's pointless.

If the virus is spread mainly through the water particles from breath, sneezing or coughing, and your mask stops much of the moisture, then it does, in fact, reduce the amount of virus you spread.

No, masks are not the golden bullet. But they are better than just washing hands and being polite.

That is not replicatable science

That is ridiculous conjecture not backed up by what we know about the virus

Virus molecules do not only exist in moisture, which is why there is again zero replicatable science to prove what you're saying. And again why the CDC didn't immediately recommend buying out masks.

It's security theater

Ok, lets look at it in a simpler way.


Is the covid virus present in the water droplets from breath, sneezes and coughs? The answer is 'Yes'.

When you wear a mask, even for a relatively short time, is the inside of the mask damp (especially if you sneeze or cough)? The answer, once again is 'Yes'.

So the difference between not wearing a mask and wearing a mask is the moisture contained in the mask. And each droplet of water in that moisture contains covid virus.

So there is an obvious reduction in the amount of virus that is spread by wearing a mask.

No one is denying you throw water at a tennis net you stop some water, the question is does it have any bearing on keeping me dry on the other side

And the answer to that is no

And the major difference is the tennis net doesn't put me at risk for lung infection, which will kill me. Unlike a corona virus

There is no evidence pre pandemic cloth masks work on viruses, had generations to test this. No evidence anecdotally during the pandemic. Wearing masks doesn't lower death rates.

Soooo we're left with just you hoping. And you should just shut the fuck up. Not changing your risk profile in any substantive way that would justify anyone giving a shit about whether or not you're wearing a mask.

LMAO! I'm sorry. I know you would prefer it if everyone just accepted what you say without argument. This is the wrong place for that.

Again you don't seem to undersatnd how medical science works

If what you're saying was true we'd have peer reviewed evidence it was. We do not

Which is why the East Asians are the only ones who wore masks pre 2020. No reason to think it works. Which is why no one else did it

Do I need to give you other basics in enlightenment philosophy our society is built on? lol

let me take your word for something many people have tested and have never come up with conclusive evidence to suggest it does anything for transmission of viruses...?

.....Do you think no one ever wondered what you'er wondinger right now? Of course tehy did. ANd they could come up with zero evidence of anything but it causes lung infections, lol. The fact you and the myriad other much better educated peopel out tehre have no science to cite says it all. Again CDC didn't recommend masks because there is no evidence backing your opinion.

My view is not opinion it's the best science we have on the subject

Maybe don't just do appeals to authority and listen to what theyr'e saying. Doctors aren't infallible. Trust me i'm related to many they've very fallible and generally over educated and feminized cowards. Over two decades of schooling will fuck you up pretty good.

 

[MaryAnne11]

This mask for me.



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Ear plugs would work better!

 

[Leo123]

Cuomo actually said he wants a more extensive testing than is being done before allowing the vaccine in NY.

I am sure there are political elements to the entire pandemic. But it is on both sides. One saying lock everything down and one saying it is no worse than the flu. I say no lockdown, but take precautions. Covid-19 is far worse than the flu.

Why? Is he (Cuomo) a virus expert or something? Scientists all concour that the vaccine will be safe and it has been tested over and over. Come on, it's a political play at the expense of New Yorkers. There is no proof that COVID is worse than the flu. The symptoms and pathology may be worse but it's only deadly, at worst, 5% of the time. They now have treatments as well as we have seen with President Trump. Vehicular deaths are far more prevalent and we live with that. We don't shut down a whole country.......There is only ONE side wanting to shut down the country and that is the Democrats and the Left. It is not playing politics to want the country to be opened up and thrive. I fear your priorities may be somewhat skewed.

My priorities are fine. My views are based on information we all have access to, plus I have friends at the CDC here in Atlanta. A good friend is a doctor specializing in infectious diseases. I also have friends who are nurses. They are exhausted from the high pressure they have been under for months.

Yes, we have treatments. But President Trump received a level of medical care that few have access to. I am also not dismissing the death from covid simply because the people had other conditions that made it more deadly. Those conditions were under control until they got covid. I have lost 2 friends who had underlying conditions. Both of them were active adults before they got it.

So it’s ok with you if a governor with absolutely no viral expertise withholds a life saving vaccine?

 

[WinterBorn]

Cuomo actually said he wants a more extensive testing than is being done before allowing the vaccine in NY.

I am sure there are political elements to the entire pandemic. But it is on both sides. One saying lock everything down and one saying it is no worse than the flu. I say no lockdown, but take precautions. Covid-19 is far worse than the flu.

Why? Is he (Cuomo) a virus expert or something? Scientists all concour that the vaccine will be safe and it has been tested over and over. Come on, it's a political play at the expense of New Yorkers. There is no proof that COVID is worse than the flu. The symptoms and pathology may be worse but it's only deadly, at worst, 5% of the time. They now have treatments as well as we have seen with President Trump. Vehicular deaths are far more prevalent and we live with that. We don't shut down a whole country.......There is only ONE side wanting to shut down the country and that is the Democrats and the Left. It is not playing politics to want the country to be opened up and thrive. I fear your priorities may be somewhat skewed.

My priorities are fine. My views are based on information we all have access to, plus I have friends at the CDC here in Atlanta. A good friend is a doctor specializing in infectious diseases. I also have friends who are nurses. They are exhausted from the high pressure they have been under for months.

Yes, we have treatments. But President Trump received a level of medical care that few have access to. I am also not dismissing the death from covid simply because the people had other conditions that made it more deadly. Those conditions were under control until they got covid. I have lost 2 friends who had underlying conditions. Both of them were active adults before they got it.

So it’s ok with you if a governor with absolutely no viral expertise withholds a life saving vaccine?

Part of Cuomo's argument makes sense.
" “The Trump administration is rolling out the vaccination plan, and I believe it’s flawed. I believe it learns nothing from the past,” Cuomo said. “They’re basically going to have the private providers do it, and that’s going to leave out all sorts of communities that were left out the first time when COVID ravaged them.”"

He is afraid it will be like the masks that were so desperately needed and then shipped to China.

To answer your question with another question, so its ok with you if a president threatens to withhold the vaccine from NY because he is pissed at the governor?