Doctors are coming out in droves saying hydroxychloroquine works

[colfax_m]

For starters, you actually have to look at the data. See what the characteristics were, how the individuals were included or excluded.

she's a doctor. patients come to her for treatment. all are included. what else is it you're concerned with again? you have presented nothing but mumbo jumbo talking shit.

Are you sure all are included? How do you know?

yep. they are her patients,

How did you find that out?

It's our healthcare laws. you should look them up. Hippocratic oath or something like that. you should take constitutional law! you need the help.

What law?

Good lord, you’re really struggling here.

 

[Bobob]

Trump motivated by army of doctors, triggers Left with tweet binge on hydroxychloroquine evidence

Leftists got triggered after Trump retweeted the White Coat Summit, where an army of coronavirus experts declared that hydroxychloroquine works.

www.bizpacreview.com

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Democrats get
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Doesn't look like droves to me. I especially like the doctor who Trump was praising, the doctor who said that gynecological problems are caused by having sex with demons and witches. Typical Trump. I think that all you believers should take the drug for a while since it supposedly works. Kinda like the bleach speech, yes?
Trump Has ‘Financial Interest’ in Hydroxychloroquine Manufacturer: NYT
Wouldn't surprise me with a grifter like Trump. Cares about the people? Nah

 

[jc456]

Here I thought people have a right to their property and how it’s used. You want to take away people’s property rights?

not when they're on a thing called the internet, they don't own that.

 

[jc456]

For starters, you actually have to look at the data. See what the characteristics were, how the individuals were included or excluded.

she's a doctor. patients come to her for treatment. all are included. what else is it you're concerned with again? you have presented nothing but mumbo jumbo talking shit.

Are you sure all are included? How do you know?

yep. they are her patients,

How did you find that out?

It's our healthcare laws. you should look them up. Hippocratic oath or something like that. you should take constitutional law! you need the help.

What law?

Good lord, you’re really struggling here.

I never struggle. constitutional law. I wrote that before, you can't read either. hmm doesn't surprise me.

 

[jc456]

Trump motivated by army of doctors, triggers Left with tweet binge on hydroxychloroquine evidence

Leftists got triggered after Trump retweeted the White Coat Summit, where an army of coronavirus experts declared that hydroxychloroquine works.

www.bizpacreview.com

View attachment 368204
Democrats get
Triggered

Doesn't look like droves to me. I especially like the doctor who Trump was praising, the doctor who said that gynecological problems are caused by having sex with demons and witches. Typical Trump. I think that all you believers should take the drug for a while since it supposedly works. Kinda like the bleach speech, yes?
Trump Has ‘Financial Interest’ in Hydroxychloroquine Manufacturer: NYT
Wouldn't surprise me with a grifter like Trump. Cares about the people? Nah

350 patients recovered 100% of them. refute it or you're trolling.

 

[progressive hunter]

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If Trump had not endorsed the potential therapeutic they would be claiming that they found a cure...

so true so true,,,

just like his wanting to pull troops out of the middle east,,,now theyre saying we need them there,,,

trump said it so its wrong,,
classic TDS

 

[Billiejeens]

Here I thought people have a right to their property and how it’s used. You want to take away people’s property rights?

not when they're on a thing called the internet, they don't own that.

It is the whole Platform versus Publisher designation.
They are all violating the letter of the law.
Not shockingly.

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump motivated by army of doctors, triggers Left with tweet binge on hydroxychloroquine evidence

Leftists got triggered after Trump retweeted the White Coat Summit, where an army of coronavirus experts declared that hydroxychloroquine works.

www.bizpacreview.com

View attachment 368204
Democrats get
Triggered

Doesn't look like droves to me. I especially like the doctor who Trump was praising, the doctor who said that gynecological problems are caused by having sex with demons and witches. Typical Trump. I think that all you believers should take the drug for a while since it supposedly works. Kinda like the bleach speech, yes?
Trump Has ‘Financial Interest’ in Hydroxychloroquine Manufacturer: NYT
Wouldn't surprise me with a grifter like Trump. Cares about the people? Nah

Not true

 

[Billiejeens]

It was deleted from servers by the people that own the servers. You understand the concept of personal property, right comrade?

then they can't publish anyone elses. see that's censorship. plain and simple Scarborough. Zombie land amazes you.

Here I thought people have a right to their property and how it’s used. You want to take away people’s property rights?

You know less about the law than you do medicine.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Trump motivated by army of doctors, triggers Left with tweet binge on hydroxychloroquine evidence

Leftists got triggered after Trump retweeted the White Coat Summit, where an army of coronavirus experts declared that hydroxychloroquine works.

www.bizpacreview.com

View attachment 368204
Democrats get
Triggered

Doesn't look like droves to me. I especially like the doctor who Trump was praising, the doctor who said that gynecological problems are caused by having sex with demons and witches. Typical Trump. I think that all you believers should take the drug for a while since it supposedly works. Kinda like the bleach speech, yes?
Trump Has ‘Financial Interest’ in Hydroxychloroquine Manufacturer: NYT
Wouldn't surprise me with a grifter like Trump. Cares about the people? Nah

350 patients recovered 100% of them. refute it or you're trolling.

Its far better than that. There are over 96 studies and anecdotal papers that show a better than 90% success rate when used early in the disease. If ER's were allowed to give the drug combinations to those who contract it early our death rates would drop drastically as hospitals have shown a 50% mortality rate decrease in patients who are given the drug combinations early. If they were allowed to give it proactively, early, before the cytokine storm attacks the body, the death rate would fall by 75% or better...

What the democrats are doing by demonizing this drug combination is criminal.

 

[Bobob]

Trump motivated by army of doctors, triggers Left with tweet binge on hydroxychloroquine evidence

Leftists got triggered after Trump retweeted the White Coat Summit, where an army of coronavirus experts declared that hydroxychloroquine works.

www.bizpacreview.com

View attachment 368204
Democrats get
Triggered

Doesn't look like droves to me. I especially like the doctor who Trump was praising, the doctor who said that gynecological problems are caused by having sex with demons and witches. Typical Trump. I think that all you believers should take the drug for a while since it supposedly works. Kinda like the bleach speech, yes?
Trump Has ‘Financial Interest’ in Hydroxychloroquine Manufacturer: NYT
Wouldn't surprise me with a grifter like Trump. Cares about the people? Nah

350 patients recovered 100% of them. refute it or you're trolling.

A large randomized controlled study called RECOVERY, in the U.K., reported in a preprint, which hasn’t been peer-reviewed, that hydroxychloroquine wasn’t associated with reduced mortality — and was actually associated with “an increased length of hospital stay and increased risk of progressing to invasive mechanical ventilation or death.” The study said that 26.8% of the 1,561 patients given hydroxychloroquine died within 28 days, whereas 25% of patients given usual care died in that time span — a difference that was not statistically significant.
The authors wrote that “these results indicate that hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment for patients hospitalized with COVID-19.”
Another study published July 16 in the Annals of Internal Medicine — a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial that involved more than 400 participants — found that “[h]ydroxychloroquine did not substantially reduce symptom severity in outpatients with early, mild COVID-19.”
There was one observational study by the Henry Ford Health System, published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases on July 1, that found hydroxychloroquine was associated with lower mortality for patients hospitalized with COVID-19. But, as we’ve explained before, the study has limitations — and it stands in contrast to multiple randomized controlled trials that have found the drug is not beneficial to hospitalized patients (and two other observational studies).
During the press conference, Immanuel also claimed that a 2005 study “said it works.”
That study — which found that “[c]hloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS-CoV in cell culture” — “is no evidence at all that it’s a cure for COVID,” Schluger said.
“That was a different coronavirus; that was the coronavirus that causes SARS,” he said. Secondly, he said, the study involved cells in test tubes. Potential drugs are evaluated in test tubes, then in animals, before they move into the three phases of clinical human trials, he said — and 90% of drug candidates that make it to human trials fail because they aren’t effective or aren’t safe.
A study in a test tube involving a different virus, Schluger added, is “not how the FDA approves drugs.”
Likewise, Dr. Radha Rajasingham, an assistant professor of medicine in the division of infectious diseases and international medicine at the University of Minnesota, told us in an email that “[w]hen something ‘works’ in cell culture, the next step is to test it in animals, and then in humans to prove efficacy in this setting. Thus, it’s not reasonable to make clinical decisions based on one lab-based study.”
Despite the evidence that hydroxychloroquine isn’t an effective treatment for COVID-19, Immanuel in the video generally dismisses such studies (erroneously suggesting that they only involved “20 people, 40 people”) — and claims she has successfully treated more than 350 patients.
She also says: “I’ve put myself, my staff and many doctors that I know on hydroxychloroquine for prevention. Because by the very mechanism of action, it works early and as a prophylaxis.”
There are scientists exploring the use of hydroxychloroquine as a prophylaxis, or preventive, and some results have been published.
Rajasingham and fellow researchers at the University of Minnesota published the results of a post-exposure prophylaxis randomized controlled trial of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 in the New England Journal of Medicine on June 3.
The double-blind trial recruited more than 800 volunteers who received either hydroxychloroquine or a placebo within four days of exposure to someone with confirmed COVID-19. Nearly 12% of hydroxychloroquine participants developed a COVID-19-like illness compared with 14.3% of those getting the placebo — a difference that was not significant.
Rajasingham said her group is currently analyzing the results of a trial that looks at hydroxychloroquine as a pre-exposure prophylaxis, involving 1,500 health care workers.
“But without clear evidence that this works in randomized clinical trials (in humans) I would not believe this medicine is efficacious,” she said.
Schluger said he understands why the public is desperate for an answer, and why some might look to hydroxychloroquine. But “the job of doctors and scientists is to figure out if things really work — and as far as we can tell, hydroxychloroquine doesn’t seem to have any significant effect.”
He said doctors like Immanuel should submit their evidence for peer-review and “see if it stands up to scrutiny.”
Recommendations for Face Masks
At one point in the video, Immanuel claims, “you don’t need masks, there is a cure.” Immanuel and the doctors behind her in the video are not seen wearing face masks.
There is no cure, as we said. And the CDC has explained that face masks or coverings could help prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus by containing respiratory droplets created when people cough, sneeze or talk. That’s how the virus is primarily spread and containing fluids is called source control.
The CDC has been recommending the use of face coverings since early April, when the agency changed its initial position on the use of face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic, citing new studies on the transmission of the novel coronavirus.
We’ve written numerous stories explaining that guidance and correcting misinformation on the issue, but bogus claims like Immanuel’s continue to add to the confusion.
We’ve written before that there have been relatively few randomized controlled trials looking at the efficacy of face masks when worn by the public, and the ones that have been done are inconsistent or have not observed large effects. But given lab studies of how masks work, many experts support them, and the World Health Organization has, like the CDC, recommended their use during “severe epidemics or pandemics.”

Updated: 7:29 AM PDT Jul 30, 2020
News Team - KCRA 3 News

Refuted

 

[jc456]

Here I thought people have a right to their property and how it’s used. You want to take away people’s property rights?

not when they're on a thing called the internet, they don't own that.

It is the whole Platform versus Publisher designation.
They are all violating the letter of the law.
Not shockingly.

well you can't use something you don't own, for your own enjoyment while creating censorship rules over the network they don't own. That's why we have laws for those evil fks. shut their asses down for violation of constitutional law.

 

[colfax_m]

It was deleted from servers by the people that own the servers. You understand the concept of personal property, right comrade?

then they can't publish anyone elses. see that's censorship. plain and simple Scarborough. Zombie land amazes you.

Here I thought people have a right to their property and how it’s used. You want to take away people’s property rights?

You know less about the law than you do medicine.

True. I know a lot more medicine than I do the law. But I know more about both than you.

By a mile.

 

[colfax_m]

For starters, you actually have to look at the data. See what the characteristics were, how the individuals were included or excluded.

she's a doctor. patients come to her for treatment. all are included. what else is it you're concerned with again? you have presented nothing but mumbo jumbo talking shit.

Are you sure all are included? How do you know?

yep. they are her patients,

How did you find that out?

It's our healthcare laws. you should look them up. Hippocratic oath or something like that. you should take constitutional law! you need the help.

What law?

Good lord, you’re really struggling here.

I never struggle. constitutional law. I wrote that before, you can't read either. hmm doesn't surprise me.

You’re just making up gibberish again.

 

[jc456]

The double-blind trial recruited more than 800 volunteers who received either hydroxychloroquine or a placebo within four days of exposure to someone with confirmed COVID-19. Nearly 12% of hydroxychloroquine participants developed a COVID-19-like illness compared with 14.3% of those getting the placebo — a difference that was not significant.

2% not significant? 2% of 350 million is 7 million people. how is that not significant. the stuff you all post cracks me up. You made my case. didn't refute it. You still didn't explain why 100% of her patients recovered. seems to suggest differences in the studies.

 

[jc456]

You’re just making up gibberish again.

I've told you before, I'm not playing your game.

 

[colfax_m]

You’re just making up gibberish again.

I've told you before, I'm not playing your game.

I know. Fuck me for wanting to know the methodology to understand the relevance of her claim.

What a terrible thing to do.

Meanwhile you just make up whatever you want.

 

[colfax_m]

The double-blind trial recruited more than 800 volunteers who received either hydroxychloroquine or a placebo within four days of exposure to someone with confirmed COVID-19. Nearly 12% of hydroxychloroquine participants developed a COVID-19-like illness compared with 14.3% of those getting the placebo — a difference that was not significant.

2% not significant? 2% of 350 million is 7 million people. how is that not significant. the stuff you all post cracks me up. You made my case. didn't refute it. You still didn't explain why 100% of her patients recovered. seems to suggest differences in the studies.

Statistical significance you dope.

 

[Billiejeens]

It was deleted from servers by the people that own the servers. You understand the concept of personal property, right comrade?

then they can't publish anyone elses. see that's censorship. plain and simple Scarborough. Zombie land amazes you.

Here I thought people have a right to their property and how it’s used. You want to take away people’s property rights?

You know less about the law than you do medicine.

True. I know a lot more medicine than I do the law. But I know more about both than you.

By a mile.

Did you answer about your security, Mother Fucker?

 

[jc456]

The double-blind trial recruited more than 800 volunteers who received either hydroxychloroquine or a placebo within four days of exposure to someone with confirmed COVID-19. Nearly 12% of hydroxychloroquine participants developed a COVID-19-like illness compared with 14.3% of those getting the placebo — a difference that was not significant.

2% not significant? 2% of 350 million is 7 million people. how is that not significant. the stuff you all post cracks me up. You made my case. didn't refute it. You still didn't explain why 100% of her patients recovered. seems to suggest differences in the studies.

Statistical significance you dope.

so the number of deaths is statistically insignificant then, correct? we're talking <1% vs 2%. if 2% is insignificant, than less than 1% can't be significant at all.