Donald Trump and Elon Musk Are Improbable Working-Class Class Heroes

Billiejeens

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It seems bizarre that a couple of guys with a few hundred billion dollars between them are the voice of America’s working class, but that’s what they are.

And it’s not like they’re pretending.

They’re not pulling some scam or trick.

Both of them really believe in what they’ve been saying.

You know it because they’ve been saying it forever.

With Donald Trump, his politics are pretty much the same conservative-Jacksonian-populist (yeah, that’s a thing) politics he’s always had, even though his party affiliation has switched.

The same with Elon Musk. Elon Musk is no regular conservative.

He has just always believed in things like free enterprise, free speech, and small government – you know, the same things the nominally conservative conservatives always talk about but never get around to conserving.


BJ-

There is one party of ideas that improve The US.
There is one party of ideas that destroy The US.

Easy to Understand where men such as President Trump and Elon would stand.
(hint - it is the first one.)
 
It seems bizarre that a couple of guys with a few hundred billion dollars between them are the voice of America’s working class, but that’s what they are.

And it’s not like they’re pretending.

They’re not pulling some scam or trick.

Both of them really believe in what they’ve been saying.

You know it because they’ve been saying it forever.

With Donald Trump, his politics are pretty much the same conservative-Jacksonian-populist (yeah, that’s a thing) politics he’s always had, even though his party affiliation has switched.

The same with Elon Musk. Elon Musk is no regular conservative.

He has just always believed in things like free enterprise, free speech, and small government – you know, the same things the nominally conservative conservatives always talk about but never get around to conserving.


BJ-

There is one party of ideas that improve The US.
There is one party of ideas that destroy The US.

Easy to Understand where men such as President Trump and Elon would stand.
(hint - it is the first one.)
Elon and Trump want to take unions power away. Firing workers who strike. You don't know what you are saying.

In the last 40 years our economic policies have favored Elon and Trump. How they gonna fix that or undo it? I know. More tax breaks to the rich.
 
Elon and Trump want to take unions power away. Firing workers who strike. You don't know what you are saying.

In the last 40 years our economic policies have favored Elon and Trump. How they gonna fix that or undo it? I know. More tax breaks to the rich.
There are no tax breaks for the rich. They pay far more in taxes than the poor.

Total fabrication than school teachers are paying more. People making over $600k pay at least 40% in Federal taxes alone.
 
There are no tax breaks for the rich. They pay far more in taxes than the poor.

Total fabrication than school teachers are paying more. People making over $600k pay at least 40% in Federal taxes alone.

You're such a stupid bitch. My brother is rich. They got it too good. Let's go back to what we were doing before Reagan, Bush and Trump gave them tax breaks.

Share some of that wealth
 
There are no tax breaks for the rich. They pay far more in taxes than the poor.

Total fabrication than school teachers are paying more. People making over $600k pay at least 40% in Federal taxes alone.

6 cents tax on every dollar means a hell of a lot more to a poor person than it does to a rich person.

But yea, you are right. That rich person who bought a $1 million dollar yacht paid 6 cents on every dollar. So yea they pay a lot more taxes than the poor you sure do have that right stupid.

You know what? I want to be poor not rich. Why? Because they pay less taxes. Right stupid?
 
You're such a stupid bitch. My brother is rich. They got it too good. Let's go back to what we were doing before Reagan, Bush and Trump gave them tax breaks.

Share some of that wealth
So your whole idea is that we should take all their money away so they are on the same level as you? Can you say that is completely unfair and wrong?
 
So your whole idea is that we should take all their money away so they are on the same level as you? Can you say that is completely unfair and wrong?
Rich people get away with a lot of games in terms of how they manage, acquire and protect wealth. There are serious holes in the tax code that we should have a serious discussion about addressing.

Taxing unrealized gains is one of those ideas.
 
We’ve seen Trump’s taxes and he often pays nothing.
Do not like the tax structure? Convince those like Pelosi and others who are millionaires to change it. They will not because they know three things you do not. First it would hurt corporations. Second those that are paying the highest taxes would move most if not all the money out of the U.S. so it could not be taxed. And third they would be agreeing to place higher taxes on themselves
 
Rich people get away with a lot of games in terms of how they manage, acquire and protect wealth. There are serious holes in the tax code that we should have a serious discussion about addressing.

Taxing unrealized gains is one of those ideas.
So again get the millionaires in congress to change the tax code. I know you will not understand such a simple concept.
 
6 cents tax on every dollar means a hell of a lot more to a poor person than it does to a rich person.

But yea, you are right. That rich person who bought a $1 million dollar yacht paid 6 cents on every dollar. So yea they pay a lot more taxes than the poor you sure do have that right stupid.

You know what? I want to be poor not rich. Why? Because they pay less taxes. Right stupid?
Now you are conflating sales tax with income tax. LOL you lost it.
 
It seems bizarre that a couple of guys with a few hundred billion dollars between them are the voice of America’s working class, but that’s what they are.

And it’s not like they’re pretending.

They’re not pulling some scam or trick.

Both of them really believe in what they’ve been saying.

You know it because they’ve been saying it forever.

With Donald Trump, his politics are pretty much the same conservative-Jacksonian-populist (yeah, that’s a thing) politics he’s always had, even though his party affiliation has switched.

The same with Elon Musk. Elon Musk is no regular conservative.

He has just always believed in things like free enterprise, free speech, and small government – you know, the same things the nominally conservative conservatives always talk about but never get around to conserving.


BJ-

There is one party of ideas that improve The US.
There is one party of ideas that destroy The US.

Easy to Understand where men such as President Trump and Elon would stand.
(hint - it is the first one.)

Actually they are both full of shit and just saying the things they say to gain popularity and votes.

But it does show how easy it is to fool the people of this once great country.
 
You're such a stupid bitch. My brother is rich. They got it too good. Let's go back to what we were doing before Reagan, Bush and Trump gave them tax breaks.

Share some of that wealth
Go back to 1970’s abysmal economy? We’re already there, bub.
 

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