Donald Trump is Going to Get a Journalist Killed

[Lewdog]

Totally wrong, as I also posted their logic. Once you start picking and choosing those who you THINK is not reporting the truth, it becomes subjective and the foundation behind the freedom of the press is no longer valid.

7 Times CNN Botched The News In 2017

It's been posted in this thread now, but a Trump supporter (Yes he admitted it on the phone) called into C-Span to say if he saw Brian Stelter or Don Lemon he would shoot them.

NO ONE is perfect. If you say you are, you're a liar. Not being perfect doesn't mean they are open game to be killed. That's ridiculous.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

With the things he is saying to a base that is full of several conspiracy nutjobs, Trump is going to get a journalist killed, and then what? He is going to be sued for everything he owns, and he should be found guilty for it. MSNBC reporter Katy Tur reported this week how someone wrote her saying she should be raped and killed, followed by MAGA. We've already seen what Trump's supporters are capable of when one who believed Alex Jones Pizzagate shot up Comet Ping-Pong Pizza. It is the JOB of the news to hold the government and its official responsible for what they say and do. When Trump blatantly lies every couple of minutes, it is the media's job to point it out. The founders of the U.S. put the freedom of the press into the very first Amendment of the Constitution for a reason, it is fundamentally imperative to having a true democracy.

James Madison very clearly stated this when he wrote:

"A popular Government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

A couple from Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Constitution:

"I am ... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe."

So self-proclaimed Constitutional Conservatives, why are you not defending the Constitution and the forethought of those who took part in creating it? Why are you still backing Trump who obviously isn't respecting the glue that put this country together? And before you say the press is lying and not reporting the truth, please educate yourself, as the Founders knew there would always be press that would explore the fringe of truth. They said that ALL press must still be protected by the Constitution, because once you start taking away the freedom of the press from some you feel is being untruthful, it becomes subjective and the freedom of press as a whole will suddenly be at risk.

In large part -- no Founding Father watching the political sewage that passes for journalism today would agree with you using their quotes. In the early days of the Republic, the press dug for nasty dirt. It was usually true and EVERYONE agreed the nasty acts were bad.

Those "journalists" complaining about the heat they pour gas on everyday need to check themselves. Mostly, their organizations are now "political advocacy groups" and should be subject to the rules for such advocacy. THEY have already gotten people shot and threatened and nearly wiped out the GOP softball team.

If THEY want to create a "war zone" in America -- they better buckle up the flak jackets. Because they are not "innocent principled bystanders"...

Totally wrong, as I also posted their logic. Once you start picking and choosing those who you THINK is not reporting the truth, it becomes subjective and the foundation behind the freedom of the press is no longer valid.

It's been posted in this thread now, but a Trump supporter (Yes he admitted it on the phone) called into C-Span to say if he saw Brian Stelter or Don Lemon he would shoot them.

Now let me give a little information that some on this forum may not not. In court cases there are different standards to convict. In a murder case for example, the jury must find that the person is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That means they must be 100% positive they are guilty with no possible questions of doubt in their mind. In a civil case the level of guilt is MUCH lower. It generally is just a preponderance of evidence, which just means the plaintiff gave enough evidence to make it more than likely the defendant is liable.

So if some psycho Trump supporter kills a journalist, and says they did it because Trump told them the media is an enemy of the state, Trump can be held liable in a civil suit, because he incited someone to commit a crime. If it happens now, after journalist have warned Trump about death threats, and Trump continues with his current narrative, it is more likely than ever he would be held liable in a civil suit. He needs to get out in front of this and tell his supporters to stop, and do it now before someone gets hurt.

And yet the same doesn't apply when some CHILD is eating a hamburger with a MAGA hat and some anti-Trump ADULT comes by and smacks the hat off of his head? You know, confront them wherever they may be: in restaurants, in bowling allies, in the store.

Again, no it isn't the same because NO ONE on the left is telling people to go out and attack them. How do you not understand the difference?

When Maxine Waters tells people to Harass what EXACTLY do you think she means?

 

[Lewdog]

Five funnies in the opening post, one from a mod. Now that's funny.

 

[Lewdog]

With the things he is saying to a base that is full of several conspiracy nutjobs, Trump is going to get a journalist killed, and then what? He is going to be sued for everything he owns, and he should be found guilty for it. MSNBC reporter Katy Tur reported this week how someone wrote her saying she should be raped and killed, followed by MAGA. We've already seen what Trump's supporters are capable of when one who believed Alex Jones Pizzagate shot up Comet Ping-Pong Pizza. It is the JOB of the news to hold the government and its official responsible for what they say and do. When Trump blatantly lies every couple of minutes, it is the media's job to point it out. The founders of the U.S. put the freedom of the press into the very first Amendment of the Constitution for a reason, it is fundamentally imperative to having a true democracy.

James Madison very clearly stated this when he wrote:

"A popular Government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

A couple from Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Constitution:

"I am ... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe."

So self-proclaimed Constitutional Conservatives, why are you not defending the Constitution and the forethought of those who took part in creating it? Why are you still backing Trump who obviously isn't respecting the glue that put this country together? And before you say the press is lying and not reporting the truth, please educate yourself, as the Founders knew there would always be press that would explore the fringe of truth. They said that ALL press must still be protected by the Constitution, because once you start taking away the freedom of the press from some you feel is being untruthful, it becomes subjective and the freedom of press as a whole will suddenly be at risk.

In large part -- no Founding Father watching the political sewage that passes for journalism today would agree with you using their quotes. In the early days of the Republic, the press dug for nasty dirt. It was usually true and EVERYONE agreed the nasty acts were bad.

Those "journalists" complaining about the heat they pour gas on everyday need to check themselves. Mostly, their organizations are now "political advocacy groups" and should be subject to the rules for such advocacy. THEY have already gotten people shot and threatened and nearly wiped out the GOP softball team.

If THEY want to create a "war zone" in America -- they better buckle up the flak jackets. Because they are not "innocent principled bystanders"...

Totally wrong, as I also posted their logic. Once you start picking and choosing those who you THINK is not reporting the truth, it becomes subjective and the foundation behind the freedom of the press is no longer valid.

It's been posted in this thread now, but a Trump supporter (Yes he admitted it on the phone) called into C-Span to say if he saw Brian Stelter or Don Lemon he would shoot them.

Now let me give a little information that some on this forum may not not. In court cases there are different standards to convict. In a murder case for example, the jury must find that the person is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That means they must be 100% positive they are guilty with no possible questions of doubt in their mind. In a civil case the level of guilt is MUCH lower. It generally is just a preponderance of evidence, which just means the plaintiff gave enough evidence to make it more than likely the defendant is liable.

So if some psycho Trump supporter kills a journalist, and says they did it because Trump told them the media is an enemy of the state, Trump can be held liable in a civil suit, because he incited someone to commit a crime. If it happens now, after journalist have warned Trump about death threats, and Trump continues with his current narrative, it is more likely than ever he would be held liable in a civil suit. He needs to get out in front of this and tell his supporters to stop, and do it now before someone gets hurt.

And yet the same doesn't apply when some CHILD is eating a hamburger with a MAGA hat and some anti-Trump ADULT comes by and smacks the hat off of his head? You know, confront them wherever they may be: in restaurants, in bowling allies, in the store.

Again, no it isn't the same because NO ONE on the left is telling people to go out and attack them. How do you not understand the difference?

When Maxine Waters tells people to Harass what EXACTLY do you think she means?

Did I agree with it? No, but they are employees of the people, and the people deserve to have their views heard. Did she tell anyone they were enemies of the state and caused wars?

 

[JBond]

With the things he is saying to a base that is full of several conspiracy nutjobs, Trump is going to get a journalist killed, and then what? He is going to be sued for everything he owns, and he should be found guilty for it. MSNBC reporter Katy Tur reported this week how someone wrote her saying she should be raped and killed, followed by MAGA. We've already seen what Trump's supporters are capable of when one who believed Alex Jones Pizzagate shot up Comet Ping-Pong Pizza. It is the JOB of the news to hold the government and its official responsible for what they say and do. When Trump blatantly lies every couple of minutes, it is the media's job to point it out. The founders of the U.S. put the freedom of the press into the very first Amendment of the Constitution for a reason, it is fundamentally imperative to having a true democracy.

James Madison very clearly stated this when he wrote:

"A popular Government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

A couple from Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Constitution:

"I am ... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe."

So self-proclaimed Constitutional Conservatives, why are you not defending the Constitution and the forethought of those who took part in creating it? Why are you still backing Trump who obviously isn't respecting the glue that put this country together? And before you say the press is lying and not reporting the truth, please educate yourself, as the Founders knew there would always be press that would explore the fringe of truth. They said that ALL press must still be protected by the Constitution, because once you start taking away the freedom of the press from some you feel is being untruthful, it becomes subjective and the freedom of press as a whole will suddenly be at risk.

When a Bernie Sanders supporter attempted to assassinate Republicans, the media were quick to disassociate a politician from his radical supporters

Bernie Sanders NEVER told his supporters to attack Republicans and immediately after it happened he condemned the man's actions and told people not to do it. It's not even remotely the same.

Sanders fans go on online attack

 

[RetiredGySgt]

In large part -- no Founding Father watching the political sewage that passes for journalism today would agree with you using their quotes. In the early days of the Republic, the press dug for nasty dirt. It was usually true and EVERYONE agreed the nasty acts were bad.

Those "journalists" complaining about the heat they pour gas on everyday need to check themselves. Mostly, their organizations are now "political advocacy groups" and should be subject to the rules for such advocacy. THEY have already gotten people shot and threatened and nearly wiped out the GOP softball team.

If THEY want to create a "war zone" in America -- they better buckle up the flak jackets. Because they are not "innocent principled bystanders"...

Totally wrong, as I also posted their logic. Once you start picking and choosing those who you THINK is not reporting the truth, it becomes subjective and the foundation behind the freedom of the press is no longer valid.

It's been posted in this thread now, but a Trump supporter (Yes he admitted it on the phone) called into C-Span to say if he saw Brian Stelter or Don Lemon he would shoot them.

Now let me give a little information that some on this forum may not not. In court cases there are different standards to convict. In a murder case for example, the jury must find that the person is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That means they must be 100% positive they are guilty with no possible questions of doubt in their mind. In a civil case the level of guilt is MUCH lower. It generally is just a preponderance of evidence, which just means the plaintiff gave enough evidence to make it more than likely the defendant is liable.

So if some psycho Trump supporter kills a journalist, and says they did it because Trump told them the media is an enemy of the state, Trump can be held liable in a civil suit, because he incited someone to commit a crime. If it happens now, after journalist have warned Trump about death threats, and Trump continues with his current narrative, it is more likely than ever he would be held liable in a civil suit. He needs to get out in front of this and tell his supporters to stop, and do it now before someone gets hurt.

And yet the same doesn't apply when some CHILD is eating a hamburger with a MAGA hat and some anti-Trump ADULT comes by and smacks the hat off of his head? You know, confront them wherever they may be: in restaurants, in bowling allies, in the store.

Again, no it isn't the same because NO ONE on the left is telling people to go out and attack them. How do you not understand the difference?

When Maxine Waters tells people to Harass what EXACTLY do you think she means?

Did I agree with it? No, but they are employees of the people, and the people deserve to have their views heard. Did she tell anyone they were enemies of the state and caused wars?

She told people to harass them EVERYWHERE. What exactly do you think she meant?

 

[Maxdeath]

When reporters are in such a hurry that they do not check sources, check spelling, check grammar then they need to slow down and look at their work. When they spin headlines for the biggest impact with little to no regard for the truth, they may want to look at their work. When they run a story on the front page or at the top of every half hour then bury the retraction on a short, quick second in the middle of the night or on the page under help wanted, they might want to look at their work. When you refuse to cover news that might reflect well on the president or put it with something that may detract from that news, they might want to look at their work. When they spend hours and acres of column comparing the president to Hitler, Stalin and others they may want to look at their work. When they applaud someone being fired for a tweet yet hire or defend someone for the same type of tweet they may want to look at their work.

The left always points out that this or that person on the right did something wrong yet defends or laughs off when someone points out the left.

I totally agree with your first paragraph.

But how come you never notice when someone on the right does this - you only point out the left? How did Fox cover Obama for example? How did they treat Clinton?

Would you care to point to any congress man or woman that told their constituents to hound 44 or Clinton, harass them in public? Can you show me where any reputable publication called either one Hitler, Stalin?
Care to point me to a link where a congress person or ex CIA, exFBI compared any of their policies to the KristalKnacht or the Hollicost?

 

[eagle1462010]

More journalists get killed then kill people. They are getting killed and jailed in record numbers around the world. They hold government and power accountable, often at great personal risk. Dictators and authoritarians HATE independent media. Something to think about. We should be very concerned about these attacks on media.

2018 World Press Freedom Index | Reporters Without Borders

RSF Index 2018: Hatred of journalism threatens democracies

The 2018 World Press Freedom Index, compiled by Reporters Without Borders (RSF), reflects growing animosity towards journalists. Hostility towards the media, openly encouraged by political leaders, and the efforts of authoritarian regimes to export their vision of journalism pose a threat to democracies.

The climate of hatred is steadily more visible in the Index, which evaluates the level of press freedom in 180 countries each year. Hostility towards the media from political leaders is no longer limited to authoritarian countries such as Turkey (down two at 157th) and Egypt (161st), where “media-phobia” is now so pronounced that journalists are routinely accused of terrorism and all those who don’t offer loyalty are arbitrarily imprisoned.


More and more democratically-elected leaders no longer see the media as part of democracy’s essential underpinning, but as an adversary to which they openly display their aversion. The United States, the country of the First Amendment, has fallen again in the Index under Donald Trump, this time two places to 45th. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters “enemies of the people,” the term once used by Joseph Stalin.


The line separating verbal violence from physical violence is dissolving. In the Philippines (down six at 133rd), President Rodrigo Duterte not only constantly insults reporters but has also warned them that they “are not exempted from assassination.” In India (down two at 138th), hate speech targeting journalists is shared and amplified on social networks, often by troll armies in Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s pay. In each of these countries, at least four journalists were gunned down in cold blood in the space of a year.


Verbal violence from politicians against the media is also on the rise in Europe, although it is the region that respects press freedom most. In the Czech Republic (down 11 at 34th), President Milos Zeman turned up at a press conference with a fake Kalashnikov inscribed with the words “for journalists.” In Slovakia, (down 10 at 27th), then Prime Minister Robert Fico called journalists “filthy anti-Slovak prostitutes” and “idiotic hyenas.” A Slovak reporter, Ján Kuciak, was shot dead in his home in February 2018, just four months after another European journalist, Daphne Caruana Galizia, was killed by a targeted car-bombing in Malta (down 18 at 65th).


“The unleashing of hatred towards journalists is one of the worst threats to democracies,” RSF secretary-general Christophe Deloire said. “Political leaders who fuel loathing for reporters bear heavy responsibility because they undermine the concept of public debate based on facts instead of propaganda. To dispute the legitimacy of journalism today is to play with extremely dangerous political fire.” ​

Journalists are being targeted and killed.

Show us all the American Reporters getting killed by Trump Rhetoric............hmmm.

If the article is true then you should be able to show the dead..........waiting..........

Nice BS piece.........comparing him to Stalin........how typical.

Lol, you didn't even read it.

. A media-bashing enthusiast, Trump has referred to reporters “enemies of the people,” the term once used by Joseph Stalin.

And Adolf Hitler.

Just think.

Stalin
Hitler
Trump

All use the same playbook.

the term once used............is what the article stated...............wasn't quoting Trump.............it referenced him..........

Let me repeat...........the term once used............out of context of the article bro to claim Trump said that..........derp

 

[easyt65]

With the things he is saying to a base that is full of several conspiracy nutjobs, Trump is going to get a journalist killed, and then what? He is going to be sued for everything he owns, and he should be found guilty for it. MSNBC reporter Katy Tur reported this week how someone wrote her saying she should be raped and killed, followed by MAGA. We've already seen what Trump's supporters are capable of when one who believed Alex Jones Pizzagate shot up Comet Ping-Pong Pizza. It is the JOB of the news to hold the government and its official responsible for what they say and do. When Trump blatantly lies every couple of minutes, it is the media's job to point it out. The founders of the U.S. put the freedom of the press into the very first Amendment of the Constitution for a reason, it is fundamentally imperative to having a true democracy.

James Madison very clearly stated this when he wrote:

"A popular Government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

A couple from Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Constitution:

"I am ... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe."

So self-proclaimed Constitutional Conservatives, why are you not defending the Constitution and the forethought of those who took part in creating it? Why are you still backing Trump who obviously isn't respecting the glue that put this country together? And before you say the press is lying and not reporting the truth, please educate yourself, as the Founders knew there would always be press that would explore the fringe of truth. They said that ALL press must still be protected by the Constitution, because once you start taking away the freedom of the press from some you feel is being untruthful, it becomes subjective and the freedom of press as a whole will suddenly be at risk.

Do you have no shame ... or memory?

The Democrats have already incited mentally disturbed snowflakes into perpetrating an assassination attempt on the GOP, gunning one down at a ball field. They have already incited other snowflakes into stalking, threatening, harassing Trump Cabinet members and reps....

So why the f* do you idiots continue to accuse others of doing what you have done / do and of being who you are?

Either you are extremely stupid or incorrectly think the people you are trying to con are.

Liberals vowed to tone down the violent rhetoric after the attack in the GOP. I think that lasted 3r hours before they began cranking it up again.

And now that there are throngs of Americans chanting 'CNN SUCKS' - calling them out for selling out to the DNC and pushing their propagandasnowflakes are claiming that it is Conservatives / Trump who will get people killed?!

Bwuhahahaha!

Obama and Hillary LITERALLY abandoned Americans to die - 'FED' them to Al Qaeda - and sniwflakes continue to defend them today.

Holy mother of pearl! You guys are SO f*ed up....!

 

[Lewdog]

Totally wrong, as I also posted their logic. Once you start picking and choosing those who you THINK is not reporting the truth, it becomes subjective and the foundation behind the freedom of the press is no longer valid.

It's been posted in this thread now, but a Trump supporter (Yes he admitted it on the phone) called into C-Span to say if he saw Brian Stelter or Don Lemon he would shoot them.

Now let me give a little information that some on this forum may not not. In court cases there are different standards to convict. In a murder case for example, the jury must find that the person is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That means they must be 100% positive they are guilty with no possible questions of doubt in their mind. In a civil case the level of guilt is MUCH lower. It generally is just a preponderance of evidence, which just means the plaintiff gave enough evidence to make it more than likely the defendant is liable.

So if some psycho Trump supporter kills a journalist, and says they did it because Trump told them the media is an enemy of the state, Trump can be held liable in a civil suit, because he incited someone to commit a crime. If it happens now, after journalist have warned Trump about death threats, and Trump continues with his current narrative, it is more likely than ever he would be held liable in a civil suit. He needs to get out in front of this and tell his supporters to stop, and do it now before someone gets hurt.

And yet the same doesn't apply when some CHILD is eating a hamburger with a MAGA hat and some anti-Trump ADULT comes by and smacks the hat off of his head? You know, confront them wherever they may be: in restaurants, in bowling allies, in the store.

Again, no it isn't the same because NO ONE on the left is telling people to go out and attack them. How do you not understand the difference?

When Maxine Waters tells people to Harass what EXACTLY do you think she means?

Did I agree with it? No, but they are employees of the people, and the people deserve to have their views heard. Did she tell anyone they were enemies of the state and caused wars?

She told people to harass them EVERYWHERE. What exactly do you think she meant?

Do you know what the definition of harass is? I'll give you a hint, it doesn't mean kill.

 

[Lewdog]

With the things he is saying to a base that is full of several conspiracy nutjobs, Trump is going to get a journalist killed, and then what? He is going to be sued for everything he owns, and he should be found guilty for it. MSNBC reporter Katy Tur reported this week how someone wrote her saying she should be raped and killed, followed by MAGA. We've already seen what Trump's supporters are capable of when one who believed Alex Jones Pizzagate shot up Comet Ping-Pong Pizza. It is the JOB of the news to hold the government and its official responsible for what they say and do. When Trump blatantly lies every couple of minutes, it is the media's job to point it out. The founders of the U.S. put the freedom of the press into the very first Amendment of the Constitution for a reason, it is fundamentally imperative to having a true democracy.

James Madison very clearly stated this when he wrote:

"A popular Government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

A couple from Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Constitution:

"I am ... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe."

So self-proclaimed Constitutional Conservatives, why are you not defending the Constitution and the forethought of those who took part in creating it? Why are you still backing Trump who obviously isn't respecting the glue that put this country together? And before you say the press is lying and not reporting the truth, please educate yourself, as the Founders knew there would always be press that would explore the fringe of truth. They said that ALL press must still be protected by the Constitution, because once you start taking away the freedom of the press from some you feel is being untruthful, it becomes subjective and the freedom of press as a whole will suddenly be at risk.

Do you have no shame ... or memory?

The Democrats have already incited mentally disturbed snowflakes into perpetrating an assassination attempt on the GOP, gunning one down at a ball field. They have already incited other snowflakes into stalking, threatening, harassing Trump Cabinet members and reps....

So why the f* do you idiots continue to accuse others of doing what you have done / do and of being who you are?

Either you are extremely stupid or incorrectly think the people you are trying to con are.

Liberals vowed to tone down the violent rhetoric after the attack in the GOP. I think that lasted 3r hours before they began cranking it up again.

And now that there are throngs of Americans chanting 'CNN SUCKS' - calling them out for selling out to the DNC and pushing their propagandasnowflakes are claiming that it is Conservatives / Trump who will get people killed?!

Bwuhahahaha!

Obama and Hillary LITERALLY abandoned Americans to die - 'FED' them to Al Qaeda - and sniwflakes continue to defend them today.

Holy mother of pearl! You guys are SO f*ed up....!

Please share where a politician told someone to do that.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Five funnies in the opening post, one from a mod. Now that's funny.

What's funny is how blindly partisan you are. The media has been pushing propaganda and their own personal biased attacks on the public for decades now and I've never seen it so blatant than they have the past two years. Now they have someone throwing it back at them and you're all throwing a tantrum.

Trump didn't make the media the enemy. They made themselves the enemy and he's simply a powerful figurehead who is not afraid to point it out. I'm hardly going to shed any tears for the backlash facing "journalists" these days.

 

[westwall]

With the things he is saying to a base that is full of several conspiracy nutjobs, Trump is going to get a journalist killed, and then what? He is going to be sued for everything he owns, and he should be found guilty for it. MSNBC reporter Katy Tur reported this week how someone wrote her saying she should be raped and killed, followed by MAGA. We've already seen what Trump's supporters are capable of when one who believed Alex Jones Pizzagate shot up Comet Ping-Pong Pizza. It is the JOB of the news to hold the government and its official responsible for what they say and do. When Trump blatantly lies every couple of minutes, it is the media's job to point it out. The founders of the U.S. put the freedom of the press into the very first Amendment of the Constitution for a reason, it is fundamentally imperative to having a true democracy.

James Madison very clearly stated this when he wrote:

"A popular Government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

A couple from Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Constitution:

"I am ... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe."

So self-proclaimed Constitutional Conservatives, why are you not defending the Constitution and the forethought of those who took part in creating it? Why are you still backing Trump who obviously isn't respecting the glue that put this country together? And before you say the press is lying and not reporting the truth, please educate yourself, as the Founders knew there would always be press that would explore the fringe of truth. They said that ALL press must still be protected by the Constitution, because once you start taking away the freedom of the press from some you feel is being untruthful, it becomes subjective and the freedom of press as a whole will suddenly be at risk.

In large part -- no Founding Father watching the political sewage that passes for journalism today would agree with you using their quotes. In the early days of the Republic, the press dug for nasty dirt. It was usually true and EVERYONE agreed the nasty acts were bad.

Those "journalists" complaining about the heat they pour gas on everyday need to check themselves. Mostly, their organizations are now "political advocacy groups" and should be subject to the rules for such advocacy. THEY have already gotten people shot and threatened and nearly wiped out the GOP softball team.

If THEY want to create a "war zone" in America -- they better buckle up the flak jackets. Because they are not "innocent principled bystanders"...

Really now? Journalists are to blame for that? Can we then blame Trump for the rise of violence against journalists? Don't you think you need a bit more "cause and effect" here?

Yes, for the most part they are. They rely on government handouts instead of doing the real work that the reporters of old engaged in. They are now lackeys for the political Party that is employing them. Take a look at the bribes the DOJ agents were getting for their "leaks". There is an enormous gulf between the propagandists we now have, and the reporters I grew up with.

 

[Lewdog]

Five funnies in the opening post, one from a mod. Now that's funny.

What's funny is how blindly partisan you are. The media has been pushing propaganda and their own personal biased attacks on the public for decades now and I've never seen it so blatant than they have the past two years. Now they have someone throwing it back at them and you're all throwing a tantrum.

Trump didn't make the media the enemy. They made themselves the enemy and he's simply a powerful figurehead who is not afraid to point it out. I'm hardly going to shed any tears for the backlash facing "journalists" these days.

The media has exposed things about the government that the people would have never found out if we had to reply on the government to police themselves. The most obvious example is the Nunes committee who shut down their investigation without interviewing key people and didn't compel Steve Bannon to answer their questions.

You're a mod and you are trolling with a funny rep in zone 2. That's sad.

 

[westwall]

Five funnies in the opening post, one from a mod. Now that's funny.

What's funny is how blindly partisan you are. The media has been pushing propaganda and their own personal biased attacks on the public for decades now and I've never seen it so blatant than they have the past two years. Now they have someone throwing it back at them and you're all throwing a tantrum.

Trump didn't make the media the enemy. They made themselves the enemy and he's simply a powerful figurehead who is not afraid to point it out. I'm hardly going to shed any tears for the backlash facing "journalists" these days.

The media has exposed things about the government that the people would have never found out if we had to reply on the government to police themselves. The most obvious example is the Nunes committee who shut down their investigation without interviewing key people and didn't compel Steve Bannon to answer their questions.

You're a mod and you are trolling with a funny rep in zone 2. That's sad.

Soooo, you think that that is bad, but ignore the even worse whitewashing they gave the shrilary. Hypocrite much?

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

What do you think of the shit Maxine Waters and other Democrats like her say?

Do you consider it equally dangerous?

No Trump supporters showed up at any Hillary rallies to assault people. If you can’t finish it, don’t start it. And with all of the ongoing continuing attacks on him, you never heard him suggest people to commit anarchy. Maximum pad has called people into action. It’s on video. But she’s too ignorant and racist to see that it was going to backfire, and effect her. Not all people voted for, liked or even respected Obama. But the Republicans didn’t disrespect his family, and tell people not to acknowledge his presidency. He was basically off limits to the press. It would not have been tolerated. And he was anything but transparent. He did whatever he wanted in a huge way, drafting documents that were almost impossible to change or challenge. He thought nothing of doing whatever he wanted, regardless of rules or proper protocol. He just didn’t communicate with anyone, or offer any explanations. But that was okay. When you lose for a second time, what will you do? And you have no one of any credibility to run next time.


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[easyt65]

With the things he is saying to a base that is full of several conspiracy nutjobs, Trump is going to get a journalist killed, and then what? He is going to be sued for everything he owns, and he should be found guilty for it. MSNBC reporter Katy Tur reported this week how someone wrote her saying she should be raped and killed, followed by MAGA. We've already seen what Trump's supporters are capable of when one who believed Alex Jones Pizzagate shot up Comet Ping-Pong Pizza. It is the JOB of the news to hold the government and its official responsible for what they say and do. When Trump blatantly lies every couple of minutes, it is the media's job to point it out. The founders of the U.S. put the freedom of the press into the very first Amendment of the Constitution for a reason, it is fundamentally imperative to having a true democracy.

James Madison very clearly stated this when he wrote:

"A popular Government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

A couple from Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Constitution:

"I am ... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe."

So self-proclaimed Constitutional Conservatives, why are you not defending the Constitution and the forethought of those who took part in creating it? Why are you still backing Trump who obviously isn't respecting the glue that put this country together? And before you say the press is lying and not reporting the truth, please educate yourself, as the Founders knew there would always be press that would explore the fringe of truth. They said that ALL press must still be protected by the Constitution, because once you start taking away the freedom of the press from some you feel is being untruthful, it becomes subjective and the freedom of press as a whole will suddenly be at risk.

Do you have no shame ... or memory?

The Democrats have already incited mentally disturbed snowflakes into perpetrating an assassination attempt on the GOP, gunning one down at a ball field. They have already incited other snowflakes into stalking, threatening, harassing Trump Cabinet members and reps....

So why the f* do you idiots continue to accuse others of doing what you have done / do and of being who you are?

Either you are extremely stupid or incorrectly think the people you are trying to con are.

Liberals vowed to tone down the violent rhetoric after the attack in the GOP. I think that lasted 3r hours before they began cranking it up again.

And now that there are throngs of Americans chanting 'CNN SUCKS' - calling them out for selling out to the DNC and pushing their propagandasnowflakes are claiming that it is Conservatives / Trump who will get people killed?!

Bwuhahahaha!

Obama and Hillary LITERALLY abandoned Americans to die - 'FED' them to Al Qaeda - and sniwflakes continue to defend them today.

Holy mother of pearl! You guys are SO f*ed up....!

Please share where a politician told someone to do that.

You're an idiot, you know that? This whole thread is claiming Trump is doing what Democrats have done and are doing. Trump has not told anyone to kill journalists, either, dumbass.

Playing stupid just makes you look stupid.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And yet the same doesn't apply when some CHILD is eating a hamburger with a MAGA hat and some anti-Trump ADULT comes by and smacks the hat off of his head? You know, confront them wherever they may be: in restaurants, in bowling allies, in the store.

Again, no it isn't the same because NO ONE on the left is telling people to go out and attack them. How do you not understand the difference?

When Maxine Waters tells people to Harass what EXACTLY do you think she means?

Did I agree with it? No, but they are employees of the people, and the people deserve to have their views heard. Did she tell anyone they were enemies of the state and caused wars?

She told people to harass them EVERYWHERE. What exactly do you think she meant?

Do you know what the definition of harass is? I'll give you a hint, it doesn't mean kill.

Be VERY specific and quote where Trump told people to kill journalists?

 

[easyt65]

No Trump supporters showed up at any Hillary rallies to assault people.

...but it was proved that Hillary's campaign paid groups to send thugs to Trump rallies to beat and bloody Trump supporters....

 

[Coyote]

When reporters are in such a hurry that they do not check sources, check spelling, check grammar then they need to slow down and look at their work. When they spin headlines for the biggest impact with little to no regard for the truth, they may want to look at their work. When they run a story on the front page or at the top of every half hour then bury the retraction on a short, quick second in the middle of the night or on the page under help wanted, they might want to look at their work. When you refuse to cover news that might reflect well on the president or put it with something that may detract from that news, they might want to look at their work. When they spend hours and acres of column comparing the president to Hitler, Stalin and others they may want to look at their work. When they applaud someone being fired for a tweet yet hire or defend someone for the same type of tweet they may want to look at their work.

The left always points out that this or that person on the right did something wrong yet defends or laughs off when someone points out the left.

I totally agree with your first paragraph.

But how come you never notice when someone on the right does this - you only point out the left? How did Fox cover Obama for example? How did they treat Clinton?

Be VERY SPECIFIC and link to a story by Fox that called Obama or Hillary Hitler Stalin or pol pot? Link to a story by fox that called for mobs to follow and attack members of Obama's government?

Playing the Nazi Card

Fox News Radio’s Tom Sullivan played a side-by-side comparison of a Hitler speech and an Obama speech (2/11/08), and Clear Channel’s Bill Cunningham, who has made similar comparisons (10/28/08), declared on his Cincinnati-based radio show (10/30/08) that “Jews [were] for McCain because Obama wants to gas the Jews, like the PLO wants to gas the Jews, like the Nazis gassed the Jews.” (The website of the group Media Matters, which extensively monitors right-wing electronic media, documents many of these examples.) Ann Coulter, as a guest on Hannity and Colmes (4/3/08), called Obama’s autobiography a “dime store Mein Kampf.” When Alan Colmes asked her if Obama was a “two-bit Hitler,” Coulter agreed. Colmes then asked: “We should be as wary of Obama as they should have been of Hitler in Nazi Germany?” Coulter admonished, “If only people had read Mein Kampf.”


The host of ABC Network’s Mark Levin Show (12/16/09) called the healthcare plan “Hitleresque.” Nothing new for Levin, who has been comparing Obama to Hitler since the campaign (10/29/08): “[Obama’s] really into these big German-like events that he creates in this country.”​

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

With the things he is saying to a base that is full of several conspiracy nutjobs, Trump is going to get a journalist killed, and then what? He is going to be sued for everything he owns, and he should be found guilty for it. MSNBC reporter Katy Tur reported this week how someone wrote her saying she should be raped and killed, followed by MAGA. We've already seen what Trump's supporters are capable of when one who believed Alex Jones Pizzagate shot up Comet Ping-Pong Pizza. It is the JOB of the news to hold the government and its official responsible for what they say and do. When Trump blatantly lies every couple of minutes, it is the media's job to point it out. The founders of the U.S. put the freedom of the press into the very first Amendment of the Constitution for a reason, it is fundamentally imperative to having a true democracy.

James Madison very clearly stated this when he wrote:

"A popular Government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

A couple from Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Constitution:

"I am ... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe."

So self-proclaimed Constitutional Conservatives, why are you not defending the Constitution and the forethought of those who took part in creating it? Why are you still backing Trump who obviously isn't respecting the glue that put this country together? And before you say the press is lying and not reporting the truth, please educate yourself, as the Founders knew there would always be press that would explore the fringe of truth. They said that ALL press must still be protected by the Constitution, because once you start taking away the freedom of the press from some you feel is being untruthful, it becomes subjective and the freedom of press as a whole will suddenly be at risk.

In large part -- no Founding Father watching the political sewage that passes for journalism today would agree with you using their quotes. In the early days of the Republic, the press dug for nasty dirt. It was usually true and EVERYONE agreed the nasty acts were bad.

Those "journalists" complaining about the heat they pour gas on everyday need to check themselves. Mostly, their organizations are now "political advocacy groups" and should be subject to the rules for such advocacy. THEY have already gotten people shot and threatened and nearly wiped out the GOP softball team.

If THEY want to create a "war zone" in America -- they better buckle up the flak jackets. Because they are not "innocent principled bystanders"...

Really now? Journalists are to blame for that? Can we then blame Trump for the rise of violence against journalists? Don't you think you need a bit more "cause and effect" here?

Here is the irony, Trump during his campaign bragged he didn't have to spend much money on his campaign because he could say something and have the news reporting it all over the tv giving him free air time. Now he is President and the same media that he used as a tool for campaigning, he calls an enemy of the state.

What I'd like to know is, do Trump supporters not want the press to do their job and report when the President lies about something? If Trump doesn't want to be given negative press, maybe he should quit being a troll on Twitter, a bully at his rallies, and lying every 5 seconds. It's pretty simple.

What's pretty simple is this: In spite of our economy, in spite of his accomplishments, in spite of him donating every dime he was paid as President to some sort of charity, the media reports over 80% negative of our President. Now.....if Hil-Liar were President with the exact same results, the negative reporting would be closer to about 20%.

Yes, the media was all over Trump when he ran for President because he brought in ratings. After he won, it completely reversed because the new attraction was to bash him instead of reporting anything positive he did.