Don't drink and fuck

[ChrisL]

You know, if only she is drunk, and a straight man takes advantage of her condition, okay, I can understand that, but when both parties have been drinking . . . it is just drunk sex. That is NOT rape, as both parties are consenting in their drunken stupor.

 

[ChrisL]

Sounds like they shouldn't be drinking.

We could always try Prohibition again.

How about this? Both of them get expelled for drinking on campus and acting like a couple of idiots.

 

[ChrisL]

The biggest problem I see here, is that these children are not old enough to be drinking.

 

[ChrisL]

Wow...wow.
So this idiot says...

1) Kissing someone on a date, even when the date is going well and indications seem good...leaning over and kissing them is....wait for it....sexual assault.
2) While having sex, and engaging in foreplay...if you don't continuously look at the other persons face and body language to be sure they like what is happening...you..just might be a rapist.
3) If you have had sex with someone several times, and right now they don't want to - if try and talk them into it....you are engaging it a form of rape.
4) If you are with someone, and leading up to sex, and even if you are both naked...she has removed all of her clothing...if you don't ask AGAIN...you are a creepy rapist-like person.
5) Your having sex, and the girl isn't smiling...but you continue...you are a rapist.

And she goes on.....you can't make this shit up.

Well, I don't think she has to really worry. More people would rather slap her than rape her, I think.

rape is not about sex, it's about violence....

Correct, according to Oxford dictionary it means:

to force (another person) to have sexual intercourse with the offender against their will

I think they need to do some revolutionary research on alcohol first. Otherwise the attempt to ban drunk sex will fail.

The attempt to ban drunk sex should fail. Incapacitated sex is a different matter.

They are too young to handle their alcohol and to drink in a responsible manner. That is the biggest problem here.

 

[Wry Catcher]

These stupid kids are too childish to be drinking. They can't handle their booze, obviously.

Which is why real men act their age and protect those who try to grow up to fast.

Protect them from what? Themselves? In one recent article, a college girl got drunk, was grinding herself all over a college guy (who was ALSO very drunk). She sneaked out of her room later and went and had sex with this guy and then brought charges on him of rape. He was expelled from college. Does that sound fair to you? BOTH were young and BOTH were drunk.

No, it doesn't sound fair to me, but are you sure the facts are correct? Rapes generally leave evidence of forced entry, forensic evidence is what proves a case, the interviews simply open an investigation. Trained investigators are usually very good in determining if a crime occurred.

More than once I acted the part of a big brother, so yes, sometimes people need to be protected from themselves.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Wow...wow.
So this idiot says...

1) Kissing someone on a date, even when the date is going well and indications seem good...leaning over and kissing them is....wait for it....sexual assault.
2) While having sex, and engaging in foreplay...if you don't continuously look at the other persons face and body language to be sure they like what is happening...you..just might be a rapist.
3) If you have had sex with someone several times, and right now they don't want to - if try and talk them into it....you are engaging it a form of rape.
4) If you are with someone, and leading up to sex, and even if you are both naked...she has removed all of her clothing...if you don't ask AGAIN...you are a creepy rapist-like person.
5) Your having sex, and the girl isn't smiling...but you continue...you are a rapist.

And she goes on.....you can't make this shit up.

Well, I don't think she has to really worry. More people would rather slap her than rape her, I think.

rape is not about sex, it's about violence....

Correct, according to Oxford dictionary it means:

to force (another person) to have sexual intercourse with the offender against their will

I think they need to do some revolutionary research on alcohol first. Otherwise the attempt to ban drunk sex will fail.

The attempt to ban drunk sex should fail. Incapacitated sex is a different matter.

They are too young to handle their alcohol and to drink in a responsible manner. That is the biggest problem here.

Blame the victim? I've heard that too many times and it is bull shit. I ran my agencies domestic violence unit and saw many horrible violent things committed by a guy who claimed were caused by the victim behavior.

 

[ChrisL]

These stupid kids are too childish to be drinking. They can't handle their booze, obviously.

Which is why real men act their age and protect those who try to grow up to fast.

Protect them from what? Themselves? In one recent article, a college girl got drunk, was grinding herself all over a college guy (who was ALSO very drunk). She sneaked out of her room later and went and had sex with this guy and then brought charges on him of rape. He was expelled from college. Does that sound fair to you? BOTH were young and BOTH were drunk.

No, it doesn't sound fair to me, but are you sure the facts are correct? Rapes generally leave evidence of forced entry, forensic evidence is what proves a case, the interviews simply open an investigation. Trained investigators are usually very good in determining if a crime occurred.

More than once I acted the part of a big brother, so yes, sometimes people need to be protected from themselves.

The police did not file any charges.

Sexual Assault Injustice at Occidental College Railroads Accused Student - FIRE

LAPD Detective Michelle Gomez interviewed the parties and witnesses. In a charge evaluation worksheet dated November 5, Deputy District Attorney Alison A.W. Meyers declined to prosecute, writing, “Witnesses were interviewed and agreed that the victim and suspect were both drunk, however, that they were both willing participants exercising bad judgment …. It would be reasonable for [Doe] to conclude based on their communications and [the accuser’s] actions that, even though she was intoxicated, she could still exercise reasonable judgment.” This decision ended police involvement in the case.

 

[ChrisL]

Well, I don't think she has to really worry. More people would rather slap her than rape her, I think.

rape is not about sex, it's about violence....

Correct, according to Oxford dictionary it means:

to force (another person) to have sexual intercourse with the offender against their will

I think they need to do some revolutionary research on alcohol first. Otherwise the attempt to ban drunk sex will fail.

The attempt to ban drunk sex should fail. Incapacitated sex is a different matter.

They are too young to handle their alcohol and to drink in a responsible manner. That is the biggest problem here.

Blame the victim? I've heard that too many times and it is bull shit. I ran my agencies domestic violence unit and saw many horrible violent things committed by a guy who claimed were caused by the victim behavior.

What the hell are you blathering about? I never said to blame the victim. There is NO victim in the case I am referring to.

 

[ChrisL]

These stupid kids are too childish to be drinking. They can't handle their booze, obviously.

Which is why real men act their age and protect those who try to grow up to fast.

Protect them from what? Themselves? In one recent article, a college girl got drunk, was grinding herself all over a college guy (who was ALSO very drunk). She sneaked out of her room later and went and had sex with this guy and then brought charges on him of rape. He was expelled from college. Does that sound fair to you? BOTH were young and BOTH were drunk.

No, it doesn't sound fair to me, but are you sure the facts are correct? Rapes generally leave evidence of forced entry, forensic evidence is what proves a case, the interviews simply open an investigation. Trained investigators are usually very good in determining if a crime occurred.

More than once I acted the part of a big brother, so yes, sometimes people need to be protected from themselves.

So . . . if no one protects her from herself, and she gets drunk, should everyone at the party be charged with a crime? YOU are silly.

 

[jillian]

Men, stay AWAY from drunk idiotic college girls. That would be in your BEST interest. Obviously they are nothing but confused little girls.

really? it's otherwise ok to take advantage of someone drunk? it's for the man's "benefit"? really?



yes, screw the harlots... typical

 

[jillian]

rape is not about sex, it's about violence....

Correct, according to Oxford dictionary it means:

to force (another person) to have sexual intercourse with the offender against their will

I think they need to do some revolutionary research on alcohol first. Otherwise the attempt to ban drunk sex will fail.

The attempt to ban drunk sex should fail. Incapacitated sex is a different matter.

They are too young to handle their alcohol and to drink in a responsible manner. That is the biggest problem here.

Blame the victim? I've heard that too many times and it is bull shit. I ran my agencies domestic violence unit and saw many horrible violent things committed by a guy who claimed were caused by the victim behavior.

What the hell are you blathering about? I never said to blame the victim. There is NO victim in the case I am referring to.

you didn't use the words "blame the victim". but you implied that the victims were the problem.

the only one blathering is you.

 

[martybegan]

Only a loser needs to get a girl/women drunk, and only a criminal and sex offender has sexual relations with a girl or women who is drunk.

That is just plain stupid.
Obviously a SOBER guy who engages in sex with a woman who is stone drunk...is a crime. No one disputes that.
But a man who is drunk, and a woman also drunk - mutually want to have sex, and does - and then the woman the next day starts yelling "rape! rape!" - that is incredibly unfair and a great example of feminazism.

Progressives want to tell us when we can have sex. Drunk sex is now rape.

Numerous colleges now insist that it isn't possible to consent to sex if you're three sheets to the wind, which means that all sexual acts carried out under the influence are potential crimes. The University of Georgia warns students that sexual consent must be "voluntary, sober, imaginative, enthusiastic, creative, wanted, informed, mutual, honest." The most problematic is "sober." Apparently sex must always be booze-free.

The cultivation of the new crime of "sex without consent" completes the state's intervention into private life. It effectively makes the authorities into the arbiters of sex itself, the judges of when sex is okay and when it isn't, of whether a particular drunken romp is acceptable or rape. Don't drink and fack, or the state will fack you. With or without your consent

Drunk sex on campus Universities are struggling to determine when intoxicated sex becomes sexual assault.
Colleges Please Don t Criminalize Drinking Sex or Drunk Sex - Hit Run Reason.com

Only a loser needs to get a girl/women drunk, and only a criminal and sex offender has sexual relations with a girl or women who is drunk.

Most of the women I went to college with were perfectly capable of getting THEMSELVES drunk, there was no need for encouragement by the randy males around them.

As I suspected, you're a loser.

Again, CDZ, try to avoid the ad hominems.

 

[jillian]

Progressives want to tell us when we can have sex. Drunk sex is now rape.

Numerous colleges now insist that it isn't possible to consent to sex if you're three sheets to the wind, which means that all sexual acts carried out under the influence are potential crimes. The University of Georgia warns students that sexual consent must be "voluntary, sober, imaginative, enthusiastic, creative, wanted, informed, mutual, honest." The most problematic is "sober." Apparently sex must always be booze-free.

The cultivation of the new crime of "sex without consent" completes the state's intervention into private life. It effectively makes the authorities into the arbiters of sex itself, the judges of when sex is okay and when it isn't, of whether a particular drunken romp is acceptable or rape. Don't drink and fack, or the state will fack you. With or without your consent

Drunk sex on campus Universities are struggling to determine when intoxicated sex becomes sexual assault.
Colleges Please Don t Criminalize Drinking Sex or Drunk Sex - Hit Run Reason.com

hey loser.... if the isn't capable of consenting, it's rape.

damn wingnuts are stupid.

no means no. yes means yes. if she changes her mind in the middle, too bad. it's her right.

and being passed out or too drunk to see is not consent.

but then again, you probably don't get laid very often and think any opportunity you can get is ok... even if no one said it was ok.

Changes her mind in the middle? WTF does that mean? In the middle of fucking, she changes her mind? Who in the hell does that? Someone who is TRYING to get another person screwed (or UNscrewed whatever).

I actually have heard of that, women have changed their mind during sex if the guy does something they don't like, like not put on a condom, too rough, tries anal sex etc etc never happened to me tho.

It doesn't sound fair to be in the "middle of sex" and then withdraw your consent, with the exception of the things you mentioned above.

I was thinking more along the lines that they were just in the middle of doing it, when the woman suddenly "changes her mind?" That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of, and anyone who would do something like that probably should seek therapy.

"fair"? really?

no means no. even in the middle. I recently saw it put as something like: if I asked you to make me a sandwich, and changed my mind, even though you made the sandwich, that is my right and I no longer consent to eating the sandwich.

it isn't really confusing

 

[jillian]

Progressives want to tell us when we can have sex. Drunk sex is now rape.

Numerous colleges now insist that it isn't possible to consent to sex if you're three sheets to the wind, which means that all sexual acts carried out under the influence are potential crimes. The University of Georgia warns students that sexual consent must be "voluntary, sober, imaginative, enthusiastic, creative, wanted, informed, mutual, honest." The most problematic is "sober." Apparently sex must always be booze-free.

The cultivation of the new crime of "sex without consent" completes the state's intervention into private life. It effectively makes the authorities into the arbiters of sex itself, the judges of when sex is okay and when it isn't, of whether a particular drunken romp is acceptable or rape. Don't drink and fack, or the state will fack you. With or without your consent

Drunk sex on campus Universities are struggling to determine when intoxicated sex becomes sexual assault.
Colleges Please Don t Criminalize Drinking Sex or Drunk Sex - Hit Run Reason.com

hey loser.... if the isn't capable of consenting, it's rape.

damn wingnuts are stupid.

no means no. yes means yes. if she changes her mind in the middle, too bad. it's her right.

and being passed out or too drunk to see is not consent.

but then again, you probably don't get laid very often and think any opportunity you can get is ok... even if no one said it was ok.

Changes her mind in the middle? WTF does that mean? In the middle of fucking, she changes her mind? Who in the hell does that? Someone who is TRYING to get another person screwed (or UNscrewed whatever).

people change their minds.

nice language, though.

 

[jillian]

hey loser.... if the isn't capable of consenting, it's rape.

damn wingnuts are stupid.

no means no. yes means yes. if she changes her mind in the middle, too bad. it's her right.

and being passed out or too drunk to see is not consent.

but then again, you probably don't get laid very often and think any opportunity you can get is ok... even if no one said it was ok.

Changes her mind in the middle? WTF does that mean? In the middle of fucking, she changes her mind? Who in the hell does that? Someone who is TRYING to get another person screwed (or UNscrewed whatever).

I actually have heard of that, women have changed their mind during sex if the guy does something they don't like, like not put on a condom, too rough, tries anal sex etc etc never happened to me tho.

It doesn't sound fair to be in the "middle of sex" and then withdraw your consent, with the exception of the things you mentioned above.

I was thinking more along the lines that they were just in the middle of doing it, when the woman suddenly "changes her mind?" That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of, and anyone who would do something like that probably should seek therapy.

Sometimes it happens, a married woman or a woman with a bf etc is in the middle of sex with another man and guilt just kicks in, I have heard all kinds of stories about stuff like this.

Well, IMO, that is something that particular person should have thought about BEFORE consenting to sex. How fair is it to end the sexual encounter say, right before the guy is about to . . . you know, and then say, "oh I've changed my mind." That's retarded IMO, and I would not consider it "rape."

that's nice.

again, people change their mind. maybe the guy did something to hurt her. maybe he sucked in bed. maybe she felt guilty.

either way...

*shrug*

 

[eots]

Well, I don't think she has to really worry. More people would rather slap her than rape her, I think.

rape is not about sex, it's about violence....

Correct, according to Oxford dictionary it means:

to force (another person) to have sexual intercourse with the offender against their will

I think they need to do some revolutionary research on alcohol first. Otherwise the attempt to ban drunk sex will fail.

The attempt to ban drunk sex should fail. Incapacitated sex is a different matter.

They are too young to handle their alcohol and to drink in a responsible manner. That is the biggest problem here.

Blame the victim? I've heard that too many times and it is bull shit. I ran my agencies domestic violence unit and saw many horrible violent things committed by a guy who claimed were caused by the victim behavior.

Progressives want to tell us when we can have sex. Drunk sex is now rape.

Numerous colleges now insist that it isn't possible to consent to sex if you're three sheets to the wind, which means that all sexual acts carried out under the influence are potential crimes. The University of Georgia warns students that sexual consent must be "voluntary, sober, imaginative, enthusiastic, creative, wanted, informed, mutual, honest." The most problematic is "sober." Apparently sex must always be booze-free.

The cultivation of the new crime of "sex without consent" completes the state's intervention into private life. It effectively makes the authorities into the arbiters of sex itself, the judges of when sex is okay and when it isn't, of whether a particular drunken romp is acceptable or rape. Don't drink and fack, or the state will fack you. With or without your consent

Drunk sex on campus Universities are struggling to determine when intoxicated sex becomes sexual assault.
Colleges Please Don t Criminalize Drinking Sex or Drunk Sex - Hit Run Reason.com

hey loser.... if the isn't capable of consenting, it's rape.

damn wingnuts are stupid.

no means no. yes means yes. if she changes her mind in the middle, too bad. it's her right.

and being passed out or too drunk to see is not consent.

but then again, you probably don't get laid very often and think any opportunity you can get is ok... even if no one said it was ok.

Changes her mind in the middle? WTF does that mean? In the middle of fucking, she changes her mind? Who in the hell does that? Someone who is TRYING to get another person screwed (or UNscrewed whatever).

I actually have heard of that, women have changed their mind during sex if the guy does something they don't like, like not put on a condom, too rough, tries anal sex etc etc never happened to me tho.

It doesn't sound fair to be in the "middle of sex" and then withdraw your consent, with the exception of the things you mentioned above.

I was thinking more along the lines that they were just in the middle of doing it, when the woman suddenly "changes her mind?" That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of, and anyone who would do something like that probably should seek therapy.

"fair"? really?

no means no. even in the middle. I recently saw it put as something like: if I asked you to make me a sandwich, and changed my mind, even though you made the sandwich, that is my right and I no longer consent to eating the sandwich.

it isn't really confusing

yes

Progressives want to tell us when we can have sex. Drunk sex is now rape.

Numerous colleges now insist that it isn't possible to consent to sex if you're three sheets to the wind, which means that all sexual acts carried out under the influence are potential crimes. The University of Georgia warns students that sexual consent must be "voluntary, sober, imaginative, enthusiastic, creative, wanted, informed, mutual, honest." The most problematic is "sober." Apparently sex must always be booze-free.

The cultivation of the new crime of "sex without consent" completes the state's intervention into private life. It effectively makes the authorities into the arbiters of sex itself, the judges of when sex is okay and when it isn't, of whether a particular drunken romp is acceptable or rape. Don't drink and fack, or the state will fack you. With or without your consent

Drunk sex on campus Universities are struggling to determine when intoxicated sex becomes sexual assault.
Colleges Please Don t Criminalize Drinking Sex or Drunk Sex - Hit Run Reason.com

hey loser.... if the isn't capable of consenting, it's rape.

damn wingnuts are stupid.

no means no. yes means yes. if she changes her mind in the middle, too bad. it's her right.

and being passed out or too drunk to see is not consent.

but then again, you probably don't get laid very often and think any opportunity you can get is ok... even if no one said it was ok.

Changes her mind in the middle? WTF does that mean? In the middle of fucking, she changes her mind? Who in the hell does that? Someone who is TRYING to get another person screwed (or UNscrewed whatever).

I actually have heard of that, women have changed their mind during sex if the guy does something they don't like, like not put on a condom, too rough, tries anal sex etc etc never happened to me tho.

It doesn't sound fair to be in the "middle of sex" and then withdraw your consent, with the exception of the things you mentioned above.

I was thinking more along the lines that they were just in the middle of doing it, when the woman suddenly "changes her mind?" That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of, and anyone who would do something like that probably should seek therapy.

"fair"? really?

no means no. even in the middle. I recently saw it put as something like: if I asked you to make me a sandwich, and changed my mind, even though you made the sandwich, that is my right and I no longer consent to eating the sandwich.

it isn't really confusing

what if your drunk and ask for a sandwich...does that mean you dont want a sandwich ?
signed
confused

 

[BlackSand]

what if your drunk and ask for a sandwich...does that mean you dont want a sandwich ?
signed
confused

Duh ... It means you want a plate of Cajun fries and bowl of brown gravy to dip them in.

.

 

[eots]

mmmmmmmm....cajun fries

 

[martybegan]

Changes her mind in the middle? WTF does that mean? In the middle of fucking, she changes her mind? Who in the hell does that? Someone who is TRYING to get another person screwed (or UNscrewed whatever).

I actually have heard of that, women have changed their mind during sex if the guy does something they don't like, like not put on a condom, too rough, tries anal sex etc etc never happened to me tho.

It doesn't sound fair to be in the "middle of sex" and then withdraw your consent, with the exception of the things you mentioned above.

I was thinking more along the lines that they were just in the middle of doing it, when the woman suddenly "changes her mind?" That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of, and anyone who would do something like that probably should seek therapy.

Sometimes it happens, a married woman or a woman with a bf etc is in the middle of sex with another man and guilt just kicks in, I have heard all kinds of stories about stuff like this.

Well, IMO, that is something that particular person should have thought about BEFORE consenting to sex. How fair is it to end the sexual encounter say, right before the guy is about to . . . you know, and then say, "oh I've changed my mind." That's retarded IMO, and I would not consider it "rape."

that's nice.

again, people change their mind. maybe the guy did something to hurt her. maybe he sucked in bed. maybe she felt guilty.

either way...

*shrug*

Changing your mind over feeling guilty shouldn't elevate the charge to rape automatically "just because."

 

[featherlite]

Idk this is a touchy one. Bottom line if a drunk girl gets raped...its rape. Did she maybe put herself in a bad situation to begin with? yeah I think so
Everyone should think about what they do, but who makes perfect decisions ALL the time.

Lying about it to get a guy arrested is NEVER ok. Innocent till proven guilty should always be there.