Don't Republicans know the law?

[hortysir]

Don't Stop Thinking about Tomorrow

Had to reach back that far, did ya? You would have thought (R)s would have learned by that mistake... LOL... that would require a brain. Besides 'Survivor' [used more than once] & REM...

G.O.P. Candidates Are Told, Don’t Use the Verses, It’s Not Your Song
Romney and Gingrich Pull Songs After Complaints
By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.FEB. 3, 2012

"...Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich were forced this week to stop using songs at their rallies after songwriters complained that the campaigns had played the pieces without permission. Strike another two songs from the Republican playlist: “Eye of the Tiger,” by Survivor, and “Wavin’ Flag,” by the Somali-born musician K’naan...."

"...In 2008 Jackson Browne successfully sued Senator McCain and the Ohio Republican Party for using his hit “Running on Empty” as the music for a campaign ad attacking the energy policies of Barack Obama. He won an undisclosed cash settlement and a public apology from Senator McCain. Two years later David Byrne sued Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida for using the Talking Heads’ “Road to Nowhere” in a commercial attacking his opponent Marco Rubio. The governor paid an undisclosed penalty and post a videotaped apology on the Internet..."

"...In 2010 Don Henley, a longtime supporter of Democratic candidates, won a copyright lawsuit against Chuck DeVore, a conservative California Republican candidate for the Senate. Mr. DeVore had used satirical lyrics set to the backing tracks of Mr. Henley’s “Boys of Summer” and “All She Wants to Do Is Dance” to attack his opponent, Senator Barbara Boxer..."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/04/a...ingrich-pull-songs-after-complaints.html?_r=0

Politics
Jun 16 2015, 11:04 pm ET
Stop Rockin': Neil Young Blasts Donald Trump for Using Classic Song Without Clearance
By Eric Ortiz

In kicking off his Republican campaign for president, real estate tycoon Donald Trump took the stage Tuesday to the Neil Young classic "Rockin' in the Free World."

But a statement later released by Young's longtime manager said the blustery billionaire wasn't free to use that song.

"Donald Trump was not authorized to use 'Rockin' In The Free World' in his presidential candidacy announcement. Neil Young, a Canadian citizen, is a supporter of Bernie Sanders for President of the United States Of America," manager Elliot Roberts said in an email to MSNBC. (Sanders is running for president as a Democrat.)..."

"...
This wouldn't be the first time that a politician has hit a sour note with a musician or been publicly scolded for using their song on the campaign trail.
'I Won't Back Down'

In 2000, Tom Petty told George W. Bush to back down from using his 1989 hit.

Petty's music publisher sent a letter demanding the then-presidential candidate to stop using it at rallies because it gave "the impression that you and your campaign have been endorsed by Tom Petty, which is not true."

'American Girl'
Tom Petty also didn't appreciate Michele Bachmann using another one of his songs when she was running for president in 2011.

Bachmann strode onto stage at one rally with the 1977 song "American Girl" playing. Petty's team later sent her campaign a cease and desist letter, Rolling Stone magazine reported.

'Barracuda'
Sarah Palin made her entrance at the 2008 Republican National Convention to Heart's 1977 hit. But sisters Ann and Nancy Wilson were quick to pounce when the former vice presidential candidate used it.

"The song 'Barracuda' was written in the late 70s as a scathing rant against the soulless, corporate nature of the music business, particularly for women," the sisters said in a statement to Entertainment Weekly at the time. "While Heart did not and would not authorize the use of their song at the RNC, there's irony in Republican strategists' choice to make use of it there."

'Our Country'
Palin's 2008 running mate, John McCain, got into his own clash with a prominent artist when John Mellencamp asked him not to use his 2007 song. (McCain's slogan at the time was, "Country First.")

Coincidentally, the song, which includes the lyrics, "Help the poor and common man," was also used by Democratic candidate John Edwards. Mellencamp had joined Edwards at one of his campaign rallies.

'I'm Shipping Up to Boston'
In another recent case of unhappy artists, the punk band the Dropkick Murphys tweeted to Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker to stop using the 2005 song, which was penned with folk singer Woody Guthrie..."

Stop Rockin': Neil Young Blasts Donald Trump for Using Classic Song Without Clearance

Had to "reach that far back" because that's the last time the Clintons were relevant

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

The rule of law means that the law is applied equally to those who wish to marry someone one the same gender and those who want to marry someone of the opposite gender.

No, the phrase 'the rule of law' does not mean that.

My god, you are unbelievably stupid. Welcome to my ignore list.

The rule of law is complicated and there are many ways to look at it. For you to just brush it off and call me stupid is the height of arrogance and anti-intellectual blathering and does nothing to establish your intellectual credibility. For starters have a look at this.

Rule of Law http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Rule+of+law

Rule according to law; rule under law; or rule according to a higher law.

The rule of law is an ambiguous term that can mean different things in different contexts. In one context the term means rule according to law. No individual can be ordered by the government to pay civil damages or suffer criminal punishment except in strict accordance with well-established and clearly defined laws and procedures. In a second context the term means rule under law. No branch of government is above the law, and no public official may act arbitrarily or unilaterally outside the law. In a third context the term means rule according to a higher law. No written law may be enforced by the government unless it conforms with certain unwritten, universal principles of fairness, morality, and justice that transcend human legal systems.

Notice the emphasis on fairness. Please tell me how, treating on group differently, and in a discriminatory manner- when there is no rational basis to do so- conforms to this principle?

In its most basic form, it is the principle that no one is above the law. Arguably, the states took the position that they were above the law-constitutional law by encoding discrimination into state laws

While complicated and ambiguous, there are certain aspects of the concept that are clearly applicable to the matter of same sex marriage.

What is the Rule of Law? What is the Rule of Law? | The World Justice Project
Derived from internationally accepted standards, the World Justice Project’s definition of the rule of law is a system in which the following four universal principles are upheld:

1. The government and its officials and agents as well as individuals and private entities are accountable under the law.

2. The laws are clear, publicized, stable, and just; are applied evenly; and protect fundamental rights, including the security of persons and property.

3. The process by which the laws are enacted, administered, and enforced is accessible, fair, and efficient.

4. Justice is delivered timely by competent, ethical, and independent representatives and neutrals who are of sufficient number, have adequate resources, and reflect the makeup of the communities they serve.

Applied evenly! Is that not to say that all people must be treated equally under the law? Here is more

rule of law http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rule%20of%20law

Definition of RULE OF LAW
1 a legal rule : a determination of the applicable rule as distinguished from a finding of fact

2 adherence to due process : government by law

Adherence to due process. Where was the due process when states were passing those bans on same sex marriage which deprived gay people of the economic, social and legal benefits of marriage? Have a nice day

 

[daws101]

Don't Stop Thinking about Tomorrow

Had to reach back that far, did ya? You would have thought (R)s would have learned by that mistake... LOL... that would require a brain. Besides 'Survivor' [used more than once] & REM...

G.O.P. Candidates Are Told, Don’t Use the Verses, It’s Not Your Song
Romney and Gingrich Pull Songs After Complaints
By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.FEB. 3, 2012

"...Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich were forced this week to stop using songs at their rallies after songwriters complained that the campaigns had played the pieces without permission. Strike another two songs from the Republican playlist: “Eye of the Tiger,” by Survivor, and “Wavin’ Flag,” by the Somali-born musician K’naan...."

"...In 2008 Jackson Browne successfully sued Senator McCain and the Ohio Republican Party for using his hit “Running on Empty” as the music for a campaign ad attacking the energy policies of Barack Obama. He won an undisclosed cash settlement and a public apology from Senator McCain. Two years later David Byrne sued Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida for using the Talking Heads’ “Road to Nowhere” in a commercial attacking his opponent Marco Rubio. The governor paid an undisclosed penalty and post a videotaped apology on the Internet..."

"...In 2010 Don Henley, a longtime supporter of Democratic candidates, won a copyright lawsuit against Chuck DeVore, a conservative California Republican candidate for the Senate. Mr. DeVore had used satirical lyrics set to the backing tracks of Mr. Henley’s “Boys of Summer” and “All She Wants to Do Is Dance” to attack his opponent, Senator Barbara Boxer..."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/04/a...ingrich-pull-songs-after-complaints.html?_r=0

Politics
Jun 16 2015, 11:04 pm ET
Stop Rockin': Neil Young Blasts Donald Trump for Using Classic Song Without Clearance
By Eric Ortiz

In kicking off his Republican campaign for president, real estate tycoon Donald Trump took the stage Tuesday to the Neil Young classic "Rockin' in the Free World."

But a statement later released by Young's longtime manager said the blustery billionaire wasn't free to use that song.

"Donald Trump was not authorized to use 'Rockin' In The Free World' in his presidential candidacy announcement. Neil Young, a Canadian citizen, is a supporter of Bernie Sanders for President of the United States Of America," manager Elliot Roberts said in an email to MSNBC. (Sanders is running for president as a Democrat.)..."

"...
This wouldn't be the first time that a politician has hit a sour note with a musician or been publicly scolded for using their song on the campaign trail.
'I Won't Back Down'

In 2000, Tom Petty told George W. Bush to back down from using his 1989 hit.

Petty's music publisher sent a letter demanding the then-presidential candidate to stop using it at rallies because it gave "the impression that you and your campaign have been endorsed by Tom Petty, which is not true."

'American Girl'
Tom Petty also didn't appreciate Michele Bachmann using another one of his songs when she was running for president in 2011.

Bachmann strode onto stage at one rally with the 1977 song "American Girl" playing. Petty's team later sent her campaign a cease and desist letter, Rolling Stone magazine reported.

'Barracuda'
Sarah Palin made her entrance at the 2008 Republican National Convention to Heart's 1977 hit. But sisters Ann and Nancy Wilson were quick to pounce when the former vice presidential candidate used it.

"The song 'Barracuda' was written in the late 70s as a scathing rant against the soulless, corporate nature of the music business, particularly for women," the sisters said in a statement to Entertainment Weekly at the time. "While Heart did not and would not authorize the use of their song at the RNC, there's irony in Republican strategists' choice to make use of it there."

'Our Country'
Palin's 2008 running mate, John McCain, got into his own clash with a prominent artist when John Mellencamp asked him not to use his 2007 song. (McCain's slogan at the time was, "Country First.")

Coincidentally, the song, which includes the lyrics, "Help the poor and common man," was also used by Democratic candidate John Edwards. Mellencamp had joined Edwards at one of his campaign rallies.

'I'm Shipping Up to Boston'
In another recent case of unhappy artists, the punk band the Dropkick Murphys tweeted to Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker to stop using the 2005 song, which was penned with folk singer Woody Guthrie..."

Stop Rockin': Neil Young Blasts Donald Trump for Using Classic Song Without Clearance

Had to "reach that far back" because that's the last time the Clintons were relevant

true but the Clintons paid to use then , note the distinction.

 

[HenryBHough]

Who pays any attention to laws these days?

The people rioting in the street?
The people burning down cities?
Democrat fat-cats exposing "secrets" to terrorist hackers?

C'mon....who?

 

[daws101]

Who pays any attention to laws these days?

The people rioting in the street?
The people burning down cities?
Democrat fat-cats exposing "secrets" to terrorist hackers?

C'mon....who?

and it was ever thus!

 

[hortysir]

Don't Stop Thinking about Tomorrow

Had to reach back that far, did ya? You would have thought (R)s would have learned by that mistake... LOL... that would require a brain. Besides 'Survivor' [used more than once] & REM...

G.O.P. Candidates Are Told, Don’t Use the Verses, It’s Not Your Song
Romney and Gingrich Pull Songs After Complaints
By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.FEB. 3, 2012

"...Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich were forced this week to stop using songs at their rallies after songwriters complained that the campaigns had played the pieces without permission. Strike another two songs from the Republican playlist: “Eye of the Tiger,” by Survivor, and “Wavin’ Flag,” by the Somali-born musician K’naan...."

"...In 2008 Jackson Browne successfully sued Senator McCain and the Ohio Republican Party for using his hit “Running on Empty” as the music for a campaign ad attacking the energy policies of Barack Obama. He won an undisclosed cash settlement and a public apology from Senator McCain. Two years later David Byrne sued Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida for using the Talking Heads’ “Road to Nowhere” in a commercial attacking his opponent Marco Rubio. The governor paid an undisclosed penalty and post a videotaped apology on the Internet..."

"...In 2010 Don Henley, a longtime supporter of Democratic candidates, won a copyright lawsuit against Chuck DeVore, a conservative California Republican candidate for the Senate. Mr. DeVore had used satirical lyrics set to the backing tracks of Mr. Henley’s “Boys of Summer” and “All She Wants to Do Is Dance” to attack his opponent, Senator Barbara Boxer..."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/04/a...ingrich-pull-songs-after-complaints.html?_r=0

Politics
Jun 16 2015, 11:04 pm ET
Stop Rockin': Neil Young Blasts Donald Trump for Using Classic Song Without Clearance
By Eric Ortiz

In kicking off his Republican campaign for president, real estate tycoon Donald Trump took the stage Tuesday to the Neil Young classic "Rockin' in the Free World."

But a statement later released by Young's longtime manager said the blustery billionaire wasn't free to use that song.

"Donald Trump was not authorized to use 'Rockin' In The Free World' in his presidential candidacy announcement. Neil Young, a Canadian citizen, is a supporter of Bernie Sanders for President of the United States Of America," manager Elliot Roberts said in an email to MSNBC. (Sanders is running for president as a Democrat.)..."

"...
This wouldn't be the first time that a politician has hit a sour note with a musician or been publicly scolded for using their song on the campaign trail.
'I Won't Back Down'

In 2000, Tom Petty told George W. Bush to back down from using his 1989 hit.

Petty's music publisher sent a letter demanding the then-presidential candidate to stop using it at rallies because it gave "the impression that you and your campaign have been endorsed by Tom Petty, which is not true."

'American Girl'
Tom Petty also didn't appreciate Michele Bachmann using another one of his songs when she was running for president in 2011.

Bachmann strode onto stage at one rally with the 1977 song "American Girl" playing. Petty's team later sent her campaign a cease and desist letter, Rolling Stone magazine reported.

'Barracuda'
Sarah Palin made her entrance at the 2008 Republican National Convention to Heart's 1977 hit. But sisters Ann and Nancy Wilson were quick to pounce when the former vice presidential candidate used it.

"The song 'Barracuda' was written in the late 70s as a scathing rant against the soulless, corporate nature of the music business, particularly for women," the sisters said in a statement to Entertainment Weekly at the time. "While Heart did not and would not authorize the use of their song at the RNC, there's irony in Republican strategists' choice to make use of it there."

'Our Country'
Palin's 2008 running mate, John McCain, got into his own clash with a prominent artist when John Mellencamp asked him not to use his 2007 song. (McCain's slogan at the time was, "Country First.")

Coincidentally, the song, which includes the lyrics, "Help the poor and common man," was also used by Democratic candidate John Edwards. Mellencamp had joined Edwards at one of his campaign rallies.

'I'm Shipping Up to Boston'
In another recent case of unhappy artists, the punk band the Dropkick Murphys tweeted to Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker to stop using the 2005 song, which was penned with folk singer Woody Guthrie..."

Stop Rockin': Neil Young Blasts Donald Trump for Using Classic Song Without Clearance

Had to "reach that far back" because that's the last time the Clintons were relevant

true but the Clintons paid to use then , note the distinction.

Didn't know if they did or not
That's why I just tossed it out there

That, and it was stuck in my head