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So it's emotional to be concerned about executing innocent people? Interesting. I disagree.Ethics is always emotional at its foundation.What do you find emotional about my response(s)?
You are weighing feelings one way and the other.
It's not justice for a state to execute innocent people even if it's only a few.In my opinion, using mistakes as an excuse to prohibit capital punishment is a rhetorical emotional argument against justice.So, in your opinion, it's okay to execute an innocent person as long as we execute 999 heinous criminals? That it's the equivalent of "cost of doing business"?
We should try not to make mistakes.
But mistakes will always happen.
Note that Tim McVeigh repeatedly demanded the death penalty. In his final manifesto in which he declared it was his right to die for the gravity of his offense and he did not wish to enable a "corrupt, lying government" to torment him with "decades of confinement in one of their psychological torture pits."D.Roof murdered so many people during his mass killing spree that he certainly deserves execution more than anyone else presently, similar to Timothy McVeigh.
I disagree with your assertion that executing innocent people is okay in order to allow the execution of those deserving it.In my opinion, using mistakes as an excuse to prohibit capital punishment is a rhetorical emotional argument against justice.So, in your opinion, it's okay to execute an innocent person as long as we execute 999 heinous criminals? That it's the equivalent of "cost of doing business"?
We should try not to make mistakes.
But mistakes will always happen.
How could killing 168 innocent American citizens, including 19 children, and wounding 500 more be considered "right"? The Ferguson rioters are using similar logic to McVeigh; they perceive an injustice by the government and then attack innocent fellow citizens in their anger at governmental actions.What McVeigh did was wrong -- but his reason was right. The same cannot be said for Dylan Root. What Root did, along with his reason, were as wrong as it gets.
Read it again. Did I say what McVeigh did was right?How could killing 168 innocent American citizens, including 19 children, and wounding 500 more be considered "right"? The Ferguson rioters are using similar logic to McVeigh; they perceive an injustice by the government and then attack innocent fellow citizens in their anger at governmental actions.
You said his reason for attacking others was right. What more "appropriate target" would you suggest? An aircraft carrier? Fort Hood like Major Hasan? Congress?Read it again. Did I say what McVeigh did was right?
His reason for doing it was. But he should have picked a more appropriate target.
The historically typical grounds for appealing a death penalty ruling is the inherently murderous nature of deliberately killing another human being.He admitted to the murders. On what grounds would an appeal be based?
Of course. The act of mass murdering people in a Bible study is equivalent to the process of execution of the murderer.The historically typical grounds for appealing a death penalty ruling is the inherently murderous nature of deliberately killing another human being.He admitted to the murders. On what grounds would an appeal be based?
Sometimes it works and the death penalty is commuted.
Quite true -- for some people. But that would not be true for Dylan Root. Because the average U.S. prison is an extension of the Black Ghettos from which the majority of its inmates derive.Being taken care of, 3 hot meals a day laughing with friends while the loved ones of his victim struggle to survive.
Prison is not a bad place for many. Repeat offenders tell us that.
So execute him.Quite true -- for some people. But that would not be true for Dylan Root. Because the average U.S. prison is an extension of the Black Ghettos from which the majority of its inmates derive.Being taken care of, 3 hot meals a day laughing with friends while the loved ones of his victim struggle to survive.
Prison is not a bad place for many. Repeat offenders tell us that.
Root would not last a week in the general population of any prison. So, for him, a life sentence would mean solitary confinement for the rest of his potentially long life. And because a substantial percentage of prison guards are Black, his solitary confinement experience would be as bad as it can be.
If you disagree with that, and you are able to convince an appeals court, then the death ruling will stand.Of course. The act of mass murdering people in a Bible study is equivalent to the process of execution of the murderer.
Which in the final analysis would be doing him a major favor.So execute him.Quite true -- for some people. But that would not be true for Dylan Root. Because the average U.S. prison is an extension of the Black Ghettos from which the majority of its inmates derive.Being taken care of, 3 hot meals a day laughing with friends while the loved ones of his victim struggle to survive.
Prison is not a bad place for many. Repeat offenders tell us that.
Root would not last a week in the general population of any prison. So, for him, a life sentence would mean solitary confinement for the rest of his potentially long life. And because a substantial percentage of prison guards are Black, his solitary confinement experience would be as bad as it can be.
Agreed. However, from a fiscally conservative POV, should we go through the expense? It costs more to execute than to keep him locked up for 50-70 years.If you disagree with that, and you are able to convince an appeals court, then the death ruling will stand..
Agreed. However, let's hope he saves the state some money and removes himself from the gene pool.Which in the final analysis would be doing him a major favor.
None of the above. But I can think of a few which I discreetly decline to list here.You said his reason for attacking others was right. What more "appropriate target" would you suggest? An aircraft carrier? Fort Hood like Major Hasan? Congress?
No. Because there were innocent respondents in that building at the time.Remember Joseph Stack? Was he right to attack the Austin, TX IRS building?
Do you think imposing the death penalty operates to save money?Agreed. However, let's hope he saves the state some money and removes himself from the gene pool.
No, but definitely costs more.Do you think imposing the death penalty operates to save money?Agreed. However, let's hope he saves the state some money and removes himself from the gene pool.
If so, have you ever heard of Mumia Abu-Jamal? If not, go here:
Mumia Abu-Jamal - Wikipedia
So you're from G/D New Jersey, no wonder you don't know anything about surfing. Nor about capital punishment.The historically typical grounds for appealing a death penalty ruling is the inherently murderous nature of deliberately killing another human being.He admitted to the murders. On what grounds would an appeal be based?
Sometimes it works and the death penalty is commuted.
Anytime you kill any living thing for no good reason you are doing something wrong.Note that Tim McVeigh repeatedly demanded the death penalty. In his final manifesto in which he declared it was his right to die for the gravity of his offense and he did not wish to enable a "corrupt, lying government" to torment him with "decades of confinement in one of their psychological torture pits."D.Roof murdered so many people during his mass killing spree that he certainly deserves execution more than anyone else presently, similar to Timothy McVeigh.
Further note that McVeigh's execution took place in a record short time from the day of sentencing. It is believed by many, myself included, that his death was expedited to shut him up. Because Timothy McVeigh's condemnations of the Waco Massacre, which was his primary motivation for the OKC bombing, had a strongly discomfiting effect on Bill Clinton, Janet Reno, BATF and FBI/HRT.
What McVeigh did was wrong -- but his reason was right. The same cannot be said for Dylan Root. What Root did, along with his reason, were as wrong as it gets.
Coward.Do you think imposing the death penalty operates to save money?Agreed. However, let's hope he saves the state some money and removes himself from the gene pool.
If so, have you ever heard of Mumia Abu-Jamal? If not, go here:
Mumia Abu-Jamal - Wikipedia
That's your rhetorical misrepresentation.I disagree with your assertion that executing innocent people is okay in order to allow the execution of those deserving it.In my opinion, using mistakes as an excuse to prohibit capital punishment is a rhetorical emotional argument against justice.So, in your opinion, it's okay to execute an innocent person as long as we execute 999 heinous criminals? That it's the equivalent of "cost of doing business"?
We should try not to make mistakes.
But mistakes will always happen.
