Economy adds 175,000 jobs

Innovation is more often blocked by the government than encouraged.
Yeah tell that to the private company that built this:
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We don't need the government to do innovation...we need the government to get out of the way.

That's a slogan. It doesn't actually mean anything.

Remember these people want us to go back to 1791. Government does do a great deal of innovation and we certainly wouldn't lead as a super power if they got their way.
 
Man.......what is it like to wake up each day hoping that you turn on the tube and see bad news?

For too many here....and unfortunately in Washington.....a booming economy is the worst possible scenario. It would mean that your crazed social agenda would never see the light of day.

I can look past the nuttiness on guns and abortion and sexuality and science......but this rooting for the country to NOT RECOVER while the other party is in office is unforgivable. Wanting your fellow Americans to suffer longer than necessary so you can say "I told you so" is what identifies you. You sorry fucks.

Jobs are not booming, they have flat-lined since 2009. There has not been a recovery in jobs & that is a fact. I am not a partisan rooting for failure. We have to live in the real world where partisan rhetoric does not put a roof over our heads, a car in the drive or food on the table. You have to have a job to make this happen. So far partisan turf wars are holding back job creation.
 
This is better than recent reports, but less than half the net job creation we would have had in a Real Recovery.

180K+ are reentrants to the labor force (after having given up looking - the UI must be running out)...the jobs aren't enough to keep up with them and population growth.

Congress is holding back a real recovery

It's fallen out of the headlines but the sequester is taking its toll.

More disposable income is going to family members who normally would depend on the programs that were cut. I had a nice 2-3 month contract for a major D.C. consulting firm's 100th anniversary event early next year, but they canceled it due to cut backs from the sequester. Look around, I bet most of us can see where it is affecting us within 2 to 3 degrees of separation if not closer.
 
Man.......what is it like to wake up each day hoping that you turn on the tube and see bad news?

For too many here....and unfortunately in Washington.....a booming economy is the worst possible scenario. It would mean that your crazed social agenda would never see the light of day.

I can look past the nuttiness on guns and abortion and sexuality and science......but this rooting for the country to NOT RECOVER while the other party is in office is unforgivable. Wanting your fellow Americans to suffer longer than necessary so you can say "I told you so" is what identifies you. You sorry fucks.

Jobs are not booming, they have flat-lined since 2009. There has not been a recovery in jobs & that is a fact. I am not a partisan rooting for failure. We have to live in the real world where partisan rhetoric does not put a roof over our heads, a car in the drive or food on the table. You have to have a job to make this happen. So far partisan turf wars are holding back job creation.

Austerity and obstructionism is holding back the economy. Good on you if you are not rooting for failure. How about promoting the good news just the same.

My business is up 20% year on year. My customers......especially those who service the construction industry.....are as busy as they have been since 2005. They are hiring and they are buying.

If the entire nation was on board with the recovery....this would have happened sooner and with more vigor, in my opinion.

I am right here in reality. Kissmy..........and reality needs more consumer confidence and less taking a shit on the economy.

Thanks.
 
Does a Temp Service Agency that brokers more than 50 employees fall under the same rules as a firm with more than 50 full-time employees?

Does a firm that uses more than 50 temporary employees from such an agency fall under the same rules as a firm with more than 50 full-time employees?
 
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Man.......what is it like to wake up each day hoping that you turn on the tube and see bad news?

For too many here....and unfortunately in Washington.....a booming economy is the worst possible scenario. It would mean that your crazed social agenda would never see the light of day.

I can look past the nuttiness on guns and abortion and sexuality and science......but this rooting for the country to NOT RECOVER while the other party is in office is unforgivable. Wanting your fellow Americans to suffer longer than necessary so you can say "I told you so" is what identifies you. You sorry fucks.

Jobs are not booming, they have flat-lined since 2009. There has not been a recovery in jobs & that is a fact. I am not a partisan rooting for failure. We have to live in the real world where partisan rhetoric does not put a roof over our heads, a car in the drive or food on the table. You have to have a job to make this happen. So far partisan turf wars are holding back job creation.

True. Part-time jobs at Walmart, serving up fries at McDonald's, cleaning hotel rooms and internships for major corporations do not rebuild a broken economy.
 
I defend good news when I see it. I did it in this very thread. But the job situation is not good. Employee participation rate is stagnate. My tenants are all behind on their rent because they have been cut back to part-time work. It is affecting my income & my spending that will affect others. We have bridges falling into rivers & people getting paid to sit on their ass. That is a major problem.

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Does a Temp Service Agency that brokers more than 50 employees fall under the same rules as a firm with more than 50 full-time employees?

Does a firm that uses more than 50 temporary employees from such an agency fall under the same rules as a firm with more than 50 full-time employees?

two great questions, I was trying to figure that out today on break.
 
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what I found
Temp Agencies See Opportunity In Health Law [employers see a way around Obamacare]

Manpower, Robert Half and other staffing specialists are giant companies, with far more than 50 employees. So they are subject to the same health act requirements aseverybody else to offer coverage to full-timers.
But in regulations issued last year the IRS left an opening for employers of "variable-hour" labor such as temp agencies. If it's not clear upon hiring that an employee will consistently work more than 30 hours weekly, companies get up to 12 months to determine whether she is full time and qualifies for health benefits -- even if she does end up working full time. Few temps last 12 months.
 
I love posting these threads and watching the "Economy must Fail" crowd come out of the woodwork

:tongue: ...which doesn't address the validity of what I said one iota.

OK.....for the Economy must Fail crowd

Are the employment numbrs better than last month?
Are they better than last year?
Are they better than five years ago?

Hard to say, do you trust the numbers they are giving?
At the same time, again, there is no context here.
WHat did I just say? RECORD part-time to full-time ratio, RECORD underemployed...is this better than last year, five years?
Likewise...if you fell into a 10 ft hole, and after 5 years you finally managed to climb a couple feet, but is still 8ft below ground - you gonna celebrate this?
 
I defend good news when I see it. I did it in this very thread. But the job situation is not good. Employee participation rate is stagnate. My tenants are all behind on their rent because they have been cut back to part-time work. It is affecting my income & my spending that will affect others. We have bridges falling into rivers & people getting paid to sit on their ass. That is a major problem.

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This is one of the most important stats. We have a smaller ratio of people supporting a federal government that is 20%+ bigger than before Obama's presidency.

This is why the economy is limping badly.
 
Let us all admit that we're NOT going back the 18th century. The world is a much smaller and different place with far more defined knowledge in economics. We found out that pure capitalism and socialism doesn't work...A mixture is what is needed. That was the greatest thing we learned in the 20th century in economics.

America must stay with the rest of the first world as we're within a global economy. If we don't we face becoming a very weak nation.
 
Let us all admit that we're NOT going back the 18th century. The world is a much smaller and different place with far more defined knowledge of economics. We found that pure capitalism and socialism doesn't work...A mixture is what is needed. That was the greatest thing we learned in the 20th century in economics.

America must stay with the rest of the first world as we're within a global economy. If we don't we face becoming a very weak nation.


Well, you certainly learned the Wrong Lesson from what happened in the 20th Century.
 
I defend good news when I see it. I did it in this very thread. But the job situation is not good. Employee participation rate is stagnate. My tenants are all behind on their rent because they have been cut back to part-time work. It is affecting my income & my spending that will affect others. We have bridges falling into rivers & people getting paid to sit on their ass. That is a major problem.

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This is one of the most important stats. We have a smaller ratio of people supporting a federal government that is 20%+ bigger than before Obama's presidency.

This is why the economy is limping badly.

Boedicca,

1. He stopped the free fall and we're stable(if not slightly growing).
2. He put many of those people on unemployment or government aid. They would of want through the same shit that people in the great depression had to if not. Think about it.

The goal right now is to get the people within 2. back to work. He did 1.

Is 2. taking resources away from other area's=YES.
 
Let us all admit that we're NOT going back the 18th century. The world is a much smaller and different place with far more defined knowledge in economics. We found out that pure capitalism and socialism doesn't work...A mixture is what is needed. That was the greatest thing we learned in the 20th century in economics.

America must stay with the rest of the first world as we're within a global economy. If we don't we face becoming a very weak nation.

Lol what? Europe is going to hell, The only one I am watching is how Germany copes. They are the only smart ones left. Btw their UE is at 5.4%, UK 7.7%, Finland 8.8% Spains 27%
 

No shit...RW'nger is one of the committed clueless - by choice.
As someone else pointed out in a different thread, if you still believe things are getting better - then that is because you are willing to deny your intelligence and replace it with imagination.
RW'nger's threads usually contain only the headline, not the story.
He doesn't mention anything about the record high part-timers in this number, he doesn't mention the record high "forced" part-timers working who need and can't find full time work.
he doesn't mention the HORRIBLE record high UNDERemployed and over-qualified people working crap jobs because there is nothing in their field.
he doesn't mention them - because he CHOOSES not to.
And that makes him a tool.

I love posting these threads and watching the "Economy must Fail" crowd come out of the woodwork

so, lets see, it appears that-

when the rate goes down, thats good?

and when it goes up.....thats good?


:lol:
 

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