Egyptian (Muslim Brotherhood) Morsi to be overthrown?-Military Moves in to take over

[Kondor3]

Egypt Military Unveils Transitional Roadmap

Military commander-in-chief Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi dismisses Egypt's president amid massive opposition protests, unveils roadmap for country's political future

Ahram Online Ahram Online, Wednesday 3 Jul 2013

This image made from video shows Lt. Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi addressing the nation on Egyptian State Television Wednesday, July 3, 2013 (Photo: AP)

Egypt's military commander-in-chief Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi on Wednesday unveiled a "roadmap" for Egypt's political future proposed by the opposition, which included the ouster of President Mohamed Morsi to make way for snap presidential elections.

The roadmap will include the following points:

-The temporary suspension of the current constitution.

-Empowering the head of Egypt's High Constitutional Court (HCC) to run the country until a new president is elected via early presidential polls.

-Forming a new technocratic government and asking the HCC to hasten the passing of a parliamentary elections law, currently being reviewed by the HCC, to allow for parliamentary elections.

-Forming a committee to amend controversial articles of the temporarily suspended constitution.

- Laying down a media code of ethics to guarantee the media's professionalism.

- Forming a committee to foster "national reconciliation."

- Taking immediate steps to include youth in decision making circles.

In his televised statement, El-Sisi stressed that the armed forces had no intention to enter political life, but said it would "never turn a blind eye to the aspirations of the Egyptian people."

He further explained that the armed forces had continuously attempted to resolve disputes between the presidency and opposition, starting in November 2012 following the issuing of Morsi's controversial constitutional declaration.

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El-Sisi concluded by urging protesters to demonstrate peacefully and not resort to violence, thanking the army, police and judiciary for what he said were their "repeated sacrifices" on Egypt's behalf.

The minister of defence's speech was followed by a brief statement by the grand sheikh of Egypt's Al-Azhar Ahmed El-Tayeb, Coptic Orthodox Pope Tawdros II and leading opposition figure Mohamed ElBaradei.

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Since the passing of the Egyptian Constitution last December, the opposition has demanded that the constitution be amended because Islamists dominated the constituent assembly that drafted the constitution.

Egypt military unveils transitional roadmap - Politics - Egypt - Ahram Online

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Hmmmm... maybe it was a wee-bit more about the Constitution and about Militant Islamists in government, and a wee-bit less about the economy ( It's the economy, stupid ) than some of our colleagues were so fervently postulating, some hours ago...

 

[Roudy]

Egypt army topples president, announces transition

Morsi is ousted.

Obama must be upset that his pet peeve Islamist Morsi got ousted. I wonder if he's going to give another great speech about the Arab Spring bringing stability and peace to the region?

 

[boedicca]

Another victory for Obama's Foreign Policy!!!!!!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Of course it will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes but consider what would have happened if we, like some here wanted, had sent troops into Egypt or sent arms in. How much more fierce the bloodshed would have been.

Just one of the many, many, many reasons why Obama was the superior choice in 2008 and again in 2012.

No. This just proved how much of a failure at foreign policy Obama was/is.

Nice try though. Superior choice my ass.

Superior in every way, actually. We'd still be in Iraq, probably pouring more troops into Afghanistan; who knows about Bin Laden--whether he'd still be with us or not.

We're watching this on TV...not wondering if our brothers or sisters are in the thick of it.

A+ For Mr. Obama.

Why do people keep giving Obama credit for getting us out of Iraq when he wanted to keep troops there and the only reason he didn't is that he had to honor an agreement signed by Bush?

 

[Katzndogz]

Pro islam forces have already started clashing with the military. Perhaps thinking this wasn't going to end in civil war was too optimistic.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Not sure the Eygptian military is willing to accept democracy.
It can be messy.
But so are military coups. This one may be a done deal.

Egyptian military says it has ousted Morsi; crowds celebrate in Cairo - World News

I'm not a big fan of overuling the ballot box this way.

I guess you only support it when it makes Obama look good.

 

[Trajan]

So, according to the Article in Post #2, the President has cautioned all three sides... Morsi, the protestors, and the Army, to come to a peaceful settlement, otherwise face a re-evaluation of US aid to Egypt...

Why... in the name of God and Little Green Onions... would we WANT to keep proxy Muslim Brotherhood players in the Presidential Palace in Egypt?

Partisanship aside... that just doesn't make any sense... at first glance, anyway.

Reality. Morsi won the election. Which means he has a lot of support.

Better him than a guy who doesn't respect elections or want to maintain good relations with the west.

Be careful what you wish for, it might come true.

That is true however he had tried to run over the courts, has submerged any media outlets etc. that spoke ill of him or the MB, the constituent assembly that he promised back in December to give a voice in crafting an Constitution he submarined so deeply they withdrew etc....Its a mess...he also to be fair inherited a mess, but hes done nothing and made it worse.

 

[Trajan]

No. This just proved how much of a failure at foreign policy Obama was/is.

Nice try though. Superior choice my ass.

Superior in every way, actually. We'd still be in Iraq, probably pouring more troops into Afghanistan; who knows about Bin Laden--whether he'd still be with us or not.

We're watching this on TV...not wondering if our brothers or sisters are in the thick of it.

A+ For Mr. Obama.

Why do people keep giving Obama credit for getting us out of Iraq when he wanted to keep troops there and the only reason he didn't is that he had to honor an agreement signed by Bush?

he actually blew the status of forces agreement by non action and a misunderstanding of what Maliki could or not do on his own etc....

 

[TheOldSchool]

Another victory for Obama's Foreign Policy!!!!!!

Egypt is not America's responsibility. I wonder how much longer until the next coup

 

[Katzndogz]

Lessons from democracy in Egypt.

There were 17 men running for president. Morsi won with a shade over 13% of the vote. The greatest majority of people didn't vote or voted for someone else.

 

[Dot Com]

They got a taste of liberty then the conservative monotheist- Morsi, overplayed his hand. There are conservative monotheists in this great nation too.
We call them social conservatives (republican voters)

 

[National Socialist]

Lessons from democracy in Egypt.

There were 17 men running for president. Morsi won with a shade over 13% of the vote. The greatest majority of people didn't vote or voted for someone else.

Was there not a run off?

They got a taste of liberty then the conservative monotheist- Morsi, overplayed his hand. There are conservative monotheists in this great nation too.
We call them social conservatives (republican voters)

You do realize a HUGE chink of republican voters are not social conservatives or are you just talking out your ass?

 

[skye]

Congratulations to the military for the intelligent and brave actions!


Despite Obama's half witted friendship with the Islamists and the Muslim Brotherhood, the Egyptians have shown a lot more sense than Obama's idealistic, naive stupidity regarding Arab Spring which was supposed to install democracy but instead replaced law and order with Islam and worse autocracy than ever! Arab Spring throughout the middle East has replaced functioning countries with fundamental Sunni Islamists gangs hell bent on sectarian warfare.

The Egyptians hate Obama (I don't blame them ) as a meddling fool and the question is when will America agree with this realistic point of view.


Again, bravo Egypt!

 

[TheOldSchool]

Congratulations to the military for the intelligent and brave actions!


Despite Obama's half witted friendship with the Islamists and the Muslim Brotherhood, the Egyptians have shown a lot more sense than Obama's idealistic, naive stupidity regarding Arab Spring which was supposed to install democracy but instead replaced law and order with Islam and worse autocracy than ever! Arab Spring throughout the middle East has replaced functioning countries with fundamental Sunni Islamists gangs hell bent on sectarian warfare.

The Egyptians hate Obama (I don't blame them ) as a meddling fool and the question is when will America agree with this realistic point of view.


Again, bravo Egypt!

I wonder who the next America hating dictator will be

 

[National Socialist]

Obama....

 

[Trajan]

I am not sure there are any good choices, their economy is a wreck, a trade agreement etc. won't change that, neither will infusions of $$$, the parking lots have been empty at Giza and Karnak, Russians and eastern euros are still going to the Resorts but they are not exactly flourishing...

 

[Connery]

As a temporary measure the country or group who can infuse the country with the most capital to stabilize the economy. After that people will want their rights protected.


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[JoeB131]

Of course it will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes but consider what would have happened if we, like some here wanted, had sent troops into Egypt or sent arms in. How much more fierce the bloodshed would have been.

Just one of the many, many, many reasons why Obama was the superior choice in 2008 and again in 2012.

Really?
Really?

WE SENT THEM TANKS AND PLANES!!!!!!

Barack Obama set to give Egypt 10 fighter jets, 200 tanks

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In retrospect, probably a good idea, recognizing that the Egyptian military was the grownup in the room.

 

[JoeB131]

So, according to the Article in Post #2, the President has cautioned all three sides... Morsi, the protestors, and the Army, to come to a peaceful settlement, otherwise face a re-evaluation of US aid to Egypt...

Why... in the name of God and Little Green Onions... would we WANT to keep proxy Muslim Brotherhood players in the Presidential Palace in Egypt?

Partisanship aside... that just doesn't make any sense... at first glance, anyway.

Reality. Morsi won the election. Which means he has a lot of support.

Better him than a guy who doesn't respect elections or want to maintain good relations with the west.

Be careful what you wish for, it might come true.

That is true however he had tried to run over the courts, has submerged any media outlets etc. that spoke ill of him or the MB, the constituent assembly that he promised back in December to give a voice in crafting an Constitution he submarined so deeply they withdrew etc....Its a mess...he also to be fair inherited a mess, but hes done nothing and made it worse.

All true. And maybe the Military isn the Grown-UP in the room, as I said.

But, generally, as a rule, military coups rarely have happy endings. Usually, when they have to hand back power, the people are even more resentful. See Turkey and Pakistan as examples.

 

[Trajan]

Reality. Morsi won the election. Which means he has a lot of support.

Better him than a guy who doesn't respect elections or want to maintain good relations with the west.

Be careful what you wish for, it might come true.

That is true however he had tried to run over the courts, has submerged any media outlets etc. that spoke ill of him or the MB, the constituent assembly that he promised back in December to give a voice in crafting an Constitution he submarined so deeply they withdrew etc....Its a mess...he also to be fair inherited a mess, but hes done nothing and made it worse.

All true. And maybe the Military isn the Grown-UP in the room, as I said.

But, generally, as a rule, military coups rarely have happy endings. Usually, when they have to hand back power, the people are even more resentful. See Turkey and Pakistan as examples.

well, federal law requires we kill Aid to the 'gov.". this is going to get dicey.