Elementary school shooting

[JoeB131]

There is nothing good about arming teachers.

Except for the simple fact that IT STOPS ASSAULTS ON INNOCENT SCHOOL CHILDREN, genius.

Except half of all teachers quit their jobs within five years due to stress....

Not seeing how arming them is going to make them less stressful.

 

[JakeStarkey]

JimBowie is worried about fact he never posts, just like a fascist. Lot of Big Lie screaming.

JB, you got no game, kid.

JimBowie continues to drizzle down his own leg.

There will be armed security, can't stop it. It will be paid for. The correct right of center answer is a use tax on those who use firearms and their supporting companies.

Once again, not one FACT to back up his self-declared statements like he thinks he is doesnt need such to support his decrees.

Starkey, your just a fucking basket case, lol, not a prophet.

 

[JimBowie1958]

There is nothing good about arming teachers.

Except for the simple fact that IT STOPS ASSAULTS ON INNOCENT SCHOOL CHILDREN, genius.

Except half of all teachers quit their jobs within five years due to stress....

Not seeing how arming them is going to make them less stressful.

Because it is all voluntary, Joe. The ones that cant handle it just stop doing it.

If the stress came from mere knowlege that someone might be armed among them then they need a new career or something.

 

[JimBowie1958]

JimBowie is worried about fact he never posts, just like a fascist. Lot of Big Lie screaming.

JB, you got no game, kid.

This isnt a game schmuck.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are right, you got no game.

 

[JoeB131]

Because it is all voluntary, Joe. The ones that cant handle it just stop doing it.

If the stress came from mere knowlege that someone might be armed among them then they need a new career or something.

As someone whose mother was a teacher and realizes what a stressful environment that is under IDEAL circumstances, we don't need to be making it worse by having them have to be mindful of a firearm all day.

A firearm is not a light responsibility. Especially if you are in a room full of pre-adolescents and have to be mindful of them and your gun on top of that?

 

[JimBowie1958]

You are right, you got no game.

Says the Oral Oracle of Bullshit.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Because it is all voluntary, Joe. The ones that cant handle it just stop doing it.

If the stress came from mere knowlege that someone might be armed among them then they need a new career or something.

As someone whose mother was a teacher and realizes what a stressful environment that is under IDEAL circumstances, we don't need to be making it worse by having them have to be mindful of a firearm all day.

Dude people are ALREADY doing it. Teachers inthe USa are nto the frail little pussies you seem to think they are.

Of course we both no you are just throwing up rhetorical smoke and we both know that they can handle it easy peasy just like teachers do in Thailand and Isreal.

A firearm is not a light responsibility. Especially if you are in a room full of pre-adolescents and have to be mindful of them and your gun on top of that?

There are guns all around them already anyway. Kids sneak them into school, armed parents are outside in the pick up lanes, and on the way to and from school they are surrounded by armed concealed carry people; oh, my! /sarc

 

[Quantum Windbag]

There is nothing good about arming teachers. I really think recent tragedies have scared people into sensationalizing school shootings. I mean, in the 1990's in southern california gang violence was getting so bad that even kids were bringing guns to school. Today, kids are still bring guns to school and now we are talking about tragedies and second amendment rights, and arming teachers. I think this is a case of "it it don't happen in my backyard it don't matter."

Strange, teachers have carried guns in classrooms in scattered school districts across the country for years. Not one of those schools has ever been attacked by a crazy guy with a gun.

The people sensationalizing this are the idiots that think guns are the problem.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

There is nothing good about arming teachers.

Except for the simple fact that IT STOPS ASSAULTS ON INNOCENT SCHOOL CHILDREN, genius.

Except half of all teachers quit their jobs within five years due to stress....

Not seeing how arming them is going to make them less stressful.

Not seeing how that makes a any type of pertinent point.

 

[saveliberty]

The liberal logic flaw, is they assume everyone fears the gun and not the gunman.

 

[Nosmo King]

Since the only answer for you is making semi-automatic guns illegal Nosmo, there can be no compromise. That move clearly makes everyone less safe. It also makes it less likely citizens could mount a defense against the government, should that day come.

The problem with scared, ignorant people like you is, they want everything without a cost. Freedom requires, nay demands strongmen be laid low by a freedom loving population. That takes weapons. There are many countries experimenting with a gun free society. Feel free to live in what you consider freedom there.

Regardless of whether that comes to pass, criminals need to be somewaht afraid of us and our capacity to defend against them. So far, you have offered nothing of substance for your point of view. Its all isolated cases of mentally unstable people with violent tendencies and access to weapons.

Again, applying that logic to motor vehicles would ruin this country. Some play out violent movies in real life. Should we ban them? What about ending the use of medicines that helps thousands,but kills a few? You aren't getting out of this world alive. Try focusing on real threats. Your staircase is hundreds of times more likely to kill you than a gun.

Let's talk about lessons in tyranny and how it was suppressed in at least my lifetime.

If there was every tyranny in this country, it has happened over and over. The tyranny shown to the Cherokee living in the American southeast. Driving them westward on the Trail of Tears. The tyranny shown by southern slave-holders who bartered human lives like any other commodity. In both cases the issue was settled by guns.

I want to talk about the Civil Rights movement.

The Civil Rights movement was by-in-large violent even though the source of the violence was largely the authorities or armed private citizens. The Civil Rights marchers themselves were largely non-violent, preferring tactics like sit ins and boycotts. In response, the authorities turned fire hoses and tear gas on them. The Klan wasn't as benign. Eventually, and after much torment, the Civil Rights marchers won. They combatted tyranny and didn't fire a shot.

And that in my life time. Actual tyranny faced down by something other than the flash of a muzzle or the concussion of an IED.

You take a noble road combatting tyranny. But the gun isn't as indispensable as it's characterized. Not military weapons anyway.

Gun rights will be preserved as bolt action rifles, shot guns and revolvers are not on the table. High capacity magazines and semi automatic firing systems must be placed under the authority of well regulated militias, not the street.

 

[JoeB131]

Because it is all voluntary, Joe. The ones that cant handle it just stop doing it.

If the stress came from mere knowlege that someone might be armed among them then they need a new career or something.

As someone whose mother was a teacher and realizes what a stressful environment that is under IDEAL circumstances, we don't need to be making it worse by having them have to be mindful of a firearm all day.

Dude people are ALREADY doing it. Teachers inthe USa are nto the frail little pussies you seem to think they are.

Of course we both no you are just throwing up rhetorical smoke and we both know that they can handle it easy peasy just like teachers do in Thailand and Isreal.

A firearm is not a light responsibility. Especially if you are in a room full of pre-adolescents and have to be mindful of them and your gun on top of that?

There are guns all around them already anyway. Kids sneak them into school, armed parents are outside in the pick up lanes, and on the way to and from school they are surrounded by armed concealed carry people; oh, my! /sarc

Exactly the point. We have too many guns in this society, and your solution is to put in more guns. This is like, batshit crazy. And you talk like it's a good idea.

 

[JoeB131]

The liberal logic flaw, is they assume everyone fears the gun and not the gunman.

The Gunman is harmless without the gun.

Then he is merely a man.... with a tiny penis.

 

[JoeB131]

Except for the simple fact that IT STOPS ASSAULTS ON INNOCENT SCHOOL CHILDREN, genius.

Except half of all teachers quit their jobs within five years due to stress....

Not seeing how arming them is going to make them less stressful.

Not seeing how that makes a any type of pertinent point.

I'm sure you don't... and if I explain it to you you still wouldn't understand it.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Exactly the point. We have too many guns in this society, and your solution is to put in more guns. This is like, batshit crazy. And you talk like it's a good idea.

No, Joe, the problem is not too many guns as those areas with the most guns per capita (rural USA) are the most safe, and the least safe places are where guns are banned or highly restricted (Chicago, gun free school zones, Washington DC, malls and other public places that post gun keep out signs, etc).

If you could ever grasp that fact and stop looking at this problem through your emotional guns = 'evil thing' filter, maybe you would realize what the most effective step would be; allow those teachers so inclined to do concealed carry at school, AFTER being vetted, screened and validating their gun training record.

You libs can contineu to make our kids LESS SAFE if you want while patting yourself on the back for 'doin sumpin', but the things that are being recommended by the administration today (more laws pioled up on more laws that are already ignored and broken by perps) will ACCOMPLISH NOTHING AT ALL. Meanwhile more and mmore of our children will die so you liberal can have your feel good moments.

It is pathehtic when a grown adult substitutes fantasy divorced from any link to reall affect and impact to then form poilicies that have the EXACT OPPOSITE FROM INTENDED EFFECT.

That in short is the problem with post 1968 liberalism.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are the guy who has feeding instructions for the nursing staff stamped on his forehead.

You are right, you got no game.

Says the Oral Oracle of Bullshit.

 

[saveliberty]

Let's talk about lessons in tyranny and how it was suppressed in at least my lifetime.

If there was every tyranny in this country, it has happened over and over. The tyranny shown to the Cherokee living in the American southeast. Driving them westward on the Trail of Tears. The tyranny shown by southern slave-holders who bartered human lives like any other commodity. In both cases the issue was settled by guns.

I want to talk about the Civil Rights movement.

The Civil Rights movement was by-in-large violent even though the source of the violence was largely the authorities or armed private citizens. The Civil Rights marchers themselves were largely non-violent, preferring tactics like sit ins and boycotts. In response, the authorities turned fire hoses and tear gas on them. The Klan wasn't as benign. Eventually, and after much torment, the Civil Rights marchers won. They combatted tyranny and didn't fire a shot.

And that in my life time. Actual tyranny faced down by something other than the flash of a muzzle or the concussion of an IED.

You take a noble road combatting tyranny. But the gun isn't as indispensable as it's characterized. Not military weapons anyway.

Gun rights will be preserved as bolt action rifles, shot guns and revolvers are not on the table. High capacity magazines and semi automatic firing systems must be placed under the authority of well regulated militias, not the street.

Don't kid yourself, it was the point of a gun from the National Guard and law enforcement that allowed the protestors to protest and laws to be enforced.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Since the only answer for you is making semi-automatic guns illegal Nosmo, there can be no compromise. That move clearly makes everyone less safe. It also makes it less likely citizens could mount a defense against the government, should that day come.

The problem with scared, ignorant people like you is, they want everything without a cost. Freedom requires, nay demands strongmen be laid low by a freedom loving population. That takes weapons. There are many countries experimenting with a gun free society. Feel free to live in what you consider freedom there.

Regardless of whether that comes to pass, criminals need to be somewaht afraid of us and our capacity to defend against them. So far, you have offered nothing of substance for your point of view. Its all isolated cases of mentally unstable people with violent tendencies and access to weapons.

Again, applying that logic to motor vehicles would ruin this country. Some play out violent movies in real life. Should we ban them? What about ending the use of medicines that helps thousands,but kills a few? You aren't getting out of this world alive. Try focusing on real threats. Your staircase is hundreds of times more likely to kill you than a gun.

Let's talk about lessons in tyranny and how it was suppressed in at least my lifetime.

If there was every tyranny in this country, it has happened over and over. The tyranny shown to the Cherokee living in the American southeast. Driving them westward on the Trail of Tears. The tyranny shown by southern slave-holders who bartered human lives like any other commodity. In both cases the issue was settled by guns.

I want to talk about the Civil Rights movement.

The Civil Rights movement was by-in-large violent even though the source of the violence was largely the authorities or armed private citizens. The Civil Rights marchers themselves were largely non-violent, preferring tactics like sit ins and boycotts. In response, the authorities turned fire hoses and tear gas on them. The Klan wasn't as benign. Eventually, and after much torment, the Civil Rights marchers won. They combatted tyranny and didn't fire a shot.

And that in my life time. Actual tyranny faced down by something other than the flash of a muzzle or the concussion of an IED.

You take a noble road combatting tyranny. But the gun isn't as indispensable as it's characterized. Not military weapons anyway.

Gun rights will be preserved as bolt action rifles, shot guns and revolvers are not on the table. High capacity magazines and semi automatic firing systems must be placed under the authority of well regulated militias, not the street.

Not about to give up my weapons that are semi-automatic. Not about to give up any weapons in fact. Not even my crossbow......

 

[SFC Ollie]

As someone whose mother was a teacher and realizes what a stressful environment that is under IDEAL circumstances, we don't need to be making it worse by having them have to be mindful of a firearm all day.

Dude people are ALREADY doing it. Teachers inthe USa are nto the frail little pussies you seem to think they are.

Of course we both no you are just throwing up rhetorical smoke and we both know that they can handle it easy peasy just like teachers do in Thailand and Isreal.

A firearm is not a light responsibility. Especially if you are in a room full of pre-adolescents and have to be mindful of them and your gun on top of that?

There are guns all around them already anyway. Kids sneak them into school, armed parents are outside in the pick up lanes, and on the way to and from school they are surrounded by armed concealed carry people; oh, my! /sarc

Exactly the point. We have too many guns in this society, and your solution is to put in more guns. This is like, batshit crazy. And you talk like it's a good idea.

Nope, not more guns.....For once JoeB is right. But we allow the teachers who do have a Concealed Carry License to go ahead and carry in the school. No one will know who has a gun or even if anyone in the building has one. But at least some asshole who wants a soft target will have to think about it first.....And probably get stopped cold...