Ending health insurance for 13 million to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Tell us what you find...

Once again private doctors/hospitals are not the topic here, VA's are.
Hold on a minute. I think that's a fair comparison. I started this exchange with the idea that the medical facilities of this country should be militarized. One of your poorly educated friends brought up the VA scandals as proof that my idea wouldn't work. So Lakhotas challenge is valid and on topic.
Private hospitals VA hospitals and military hospitals, should be judged on a case by case basis. That being said, the militarization of American medical care would be just as good or of better quality than it is today under private ownership. And..it would be a whole lot cheaper to operate. snd more affordable for everyone.


No you hold on a second we just had the military VA scandel... what did you think it just disappeared over night?

What do you think Obama fixed it?

It's still there, the problem is still there
How do you know the problem is still there? And event one or two facilities are subpar that doesn't encompasses the entire network of VA hospitals and military hospitals. And since we haven't shown an example of private hospitals and introduced their scandals inti the conversation the discussion is incomplete and one sided.
They won't have to work for free, they will become civil servants...government employees with a military rank and pay scale structure.
/-----/ Well that's different. You said "free healthcare" The Post Office is run by civil servants but postage isn't free. Please explain free healthcare and where their pay comes from.
Nothing I said is different. You just went off on a tangent because you misread what I said. Free healthcare socialized medicine. Thats when the hospitals are owned by the government and the medical personnel are all employees of the government. Operating Costs would be lowered considerably. Doctors would start at the rank of Captain, Nurses would start as 1st LTs, and aides, specialists and technicians would be enlisted. The chief administrator, depending on the size of the hospital and staff, could be a Colonel in smaller hospitals and up to a 2 star General in larger ones. People would still be required to have government insurance so as to offset operational costs but it would all be controlled centrally by the Feds instead of individual states or greedy private entities.

Operational costs would be controlled by the Feds....so would the quality (lack of).
I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.


Now you just posting random stupid shit?
Nope, I'm posting my own personal experiences... Your reaction is stupid!
 
You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Tell us what you find...

Once again private doctors/hospitals are not the topic here, VA's are.
Hold on a minute. I think that's a fair comparison. I started this exchange with the idea that the medical facilities of this country should be militarized. One of your poorly educated friends brought up the VA scandals as proof that my idea wouldn't work. So Lakhotas challenge is valid and on topic.
Private hospitals VA hospitals and military hospitals, should be judged on a case by case basis. That being said, the militarization of American medical care would be just as good or of better quality than it is today under private ownership. And..it would be a whole lot cheaper to operate. snd more affordable for everyone.


No you hold on a second we just had the military VA scandel... what did you think it just disappeared over night?

What do you think Obama fixed it?

It's still there, the problem is still there

We've had private hospital scandals that were just as shocking or worse. And the one or two VA hospitals involved in the scandal
isn't typical of all VA hospitals.

Here is a link to a list of the worst civilian hospitals:

25 Worst Hospitals in the U.S. Is Yours On the List?
 
I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.

Evidently you also haven't heard of any of the VA scandals over the last 10-20 years.
The VA is run by civilians... military hospitals have had no such scandals...

Like Walter Reed?
Walter Reed Army Medical Center neglect scandal - Wikipedia
Well, ok you found ONE. But in my 22 years of military service I never encountered anything like that in military medical facilities. I received top notch medical and dental care and so did my family.
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No I didn't! Experience trumps rhetoric every time.
 
I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.
VA Hospitals Scandal - News & Videos - CBS News

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

While you are hooting check this out:

25 Worst Hospitals in the U.S. Is Yours On the List?
 
Evidently you also haven't heard of any of the VA scandals over the last 10-20 years.
The VA is run by civilians... military hospitals have had no such scandals...

Like Walter Reed?
Walter Reed Army Medical Center neglect scandal - Wikipedia
Well, ok you found ONE. But in my 22 years of military service I never encountered anything like that in military medical facilities. I received top notch medical and dental care and so did my family.
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No I didn't! Experience trumps rhetoric every time.


Yes you did only a propaganda fool.would forget about 2014 the VA scandel..that proved Sarah Palin right.
 

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

While you are hooting check this out:

25 Worst Hospitals in the U.S. Is Yours On the List?



Top best hospitals in the fucking world ..



World


ranking
Instituto Country Size Visibilidad Ficheros ricos scholar
1 Cleveland Clinic
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230 5 17 11
2 St Jude Children's Research Hospital
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58 3 103 37
3 Johns Hopkins Medicine
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23 6 31 61
4 Mayo Clinic Scottsdale AZ
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125 1 987 94
5 University of Maryland Medical Center
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92 2 1262 34
6 M D Anderson Cancer Center
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97 14 25 39
7 Massachusetts General Hospital
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401 20 82 18
8 Assistance Publique Hôpitaux de Paris
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96 67 10 43
9 Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center
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26 18 619 107
10 New York Presbyterian / Lower Manhattan Hospital
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293 4 379 218
11 Providence Health & Services



Notice only one is not in the United States?


Rest of the list


World | Ranking Web of Hospitals
 

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

While you are hooting check this out:

25 Worst Hospitals in the U.S. Is Yours On the List?


You're an idiot for posting this all the damn best possible hospital s in the world are in the United States ...
 
Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

While you are hooting check this out:

25 Worst Hospitals in the U.S. Is Yours On the List?


You're an idiot for posting this all the damn best possible hospital s in the world are in the United States ...
Tell that to the families of 180,000 + people who die needlessly in US hospitals each year! BTW, I don't give a damn about other countries hospitals since I live in the USA DUHHHHHHH!
 
Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

While you are hooting check this out:

25 Worst Hospitals in the U.S. Is Yours On the List?


You're an idiot for posting this all the damn best possible hospital s in the world are in the United States ...
Tell that to the families of 180,000 + people who die needlessly in US hospitals each year! BTW, I don't give a damn about other countries hospitals since I live in the USA DUHHHHHHH!
:boohoo:
Too bad health insurance is not healthcare... lol
 
Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

While you are hooting check this out:

25 Worst Hospitals in the U.S. Is Yours On the List?


You're an idiot for posting this all the damn best possible hospital s in the world are in the United States ...
Tell that to the families of 180,000 + people who die needlessly in US hospitals each year! BTW, I don't give a damn about other countries hospitals since I live in the USA DUHHHHHHH!

They die needlessly from what? They eat to many cheeseburgers and they can't get their fat ass off the couch unless it's to collect a welfare check?
 
Come on who dies needlessly from what in public hospital's

Oh I know what this is about piece of crap VA hospitals..

Ok...let me tick you off



Exclusive: Botched surgery, delayed diagnosis at a one-star 'house of horrors' VA hospital

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Memphis VA Medical Center
VA
Donovan Slack and Jake Lowary, USA TODAY
3 months ago
A veteran with diabetes and poor circulation checked into the Memphis VA Medical Center for a scan and possible repair of blood vessels in his right leg last year, but he ended up with a piece of plastic packaging that VA providers had mistakenly embedded in a critical artery.


Doctors didn’t discover the 10 inches of tubing — used by manufacturers to protect catheters during shipping and handling — until the veteran had to have the leg amputated three weeks later.

When they cut into his leg, they found a 3-inch segment, and after the procedure, they found another 7 inches in the amputated limb.

The error is one of a litany of patient safety issues at the Memphis hospital in recent years chronicled in a trove of internal documents obtained by the USA TODAY Network that provide a revealing glimpse of one of the worst of 168 VA hospitals in the country.


The hospital is one of only four on which the VA's top health official, acting Under Secretary for Health Poonam Alaigh, requested weekly briefings, according to the documents.

The Memphis VA scores only one out of five stars in the agency’s quality-of-care rankings and the documents show reports of threats to patient safety at the hospital soared to more than 1,000 last year, up from 700 the year before
 
Stars and stripes



Here are some excerpts from some of the case files in the Department of Veterans Affairs inspector general's investigation:

Case No. 29
In late summer 2013, a man in his early 60s with heart disease, hypertension, diabetes and hepatitis B and C, had severely depressed cardiac function, indicating heart failure and increased risk for sudden death. He had an implantable defibrillator placed in his heart but it had been removed. A Phoenix cardiologist recommended that he have a similar device implanted in four to five weeks. In early 2014, still without the procedure, the man collapsed in his kitchen and died three days later. According to the report, timely placement of the device "might have forestalled that death.".
 
You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

While you are hooting check this out:

25 Worst Hospitals in the U.S. Is Yours On the List?


You're an idiot for posting this all the damn best possible hospital s in the world are in the United States ...
Tell that to the families of 180,000 + people who die needlessly in US hospitals each year! BTW, I don't give a damn about other countries hospitals since I live in the USA DUHHHHHHH!
:boohoo:
Too bad health insurance is not healthcare... lol
WTF????? where did that silly non sequitur come from?
 

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