Ending health insurance for 13 million to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy?

WTF does that mean and what does it have at all to do with what I posted?
A funding source?

Legalize marijuana on a national level tax it and there's your funding.
Yeah that is what they said in Oregon. "Give over control to the government and everybody will profit!" They said it about logging and marijuana. It is a lie. Never give over control of resources to the government.
The government does not need to control marijuana. The government just needs to TAX IT! Just like they do whiskey. The gov't doesn't control whiskey. They TAX IT!
The gov't doesn't control it? Oh really? Then I guess I can build a still and sell my wares on the sidewalk....
Whiskey is not illegal. It is just taxed....as are cigarettes, gasoline and a lot of other things. If you pay the proper taxes for on your home brew, you can sell it. I can buy clear 200proof moonshine in a quart jar. Pay attention.

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=200+proof&tag=ff0d01-20
 
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This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,
You are stupid. The end of the mandate is near. That just means that nobody will be forced to buy something they can't afford or be fined for not buying something they don't want. Nobody 'loses' their insurance. If you want insurance, buy it. The Obamacare exchanges are practically dead. True competition for your business will begin anew.

Your puerile quips are evidence of your utter stupidity.
How many less people will be covered?

As many that don’t want to be forced to buy something.

People will choose to not buy healthcare they don’t need or want. Taxing the poor $700 extra per year is fucking disgusting.

Obama raised taxes on he poor.
 
A funding source?

Legalize marijuana on a national level tax it and there's your funding.
Yeah that is what they said in Oregon. "Give over control to the government and everybody will profit!" They said it about logging and marijuana. It is a lie. Never give over control of resources to the government.
The government does not need to control marijuana. The government just needs to TAX IT! Just like they do whiskey. The gov't doesn't control whiskey. They TAX IT!
The gov't doesn't control it? Oh really? Then I guess I can build a still and sell my wares on the sidewalk....
Whiskey is not illegal. It is just taxed....as are cigarettes, gasoline and a lot of other things. If you pay the proper taxes for on your home brew, you can sell it. I can buy clear 200proof moonshine in a quart jar. Pay attention.

Government controls the manufacturing and distribution of alcohol.
 
Let's end the drug war to pay for health care.
WTF does that mean and what does it have at all to do with what I posted?
A funding source?

Legalize marijuana on a national level tax it and there's your funding.
Yeah that is what they said in Oregon. "Give over control to the government and everybody will profit!" They said it about logging and marijuana. It is a lie. Never give over control of resources to the government.
The government does not need to control marijuana. The government just needs to TAX IT! Just like they do whiskey. The gov't doesn't control whiskey. They TAX IT!
/----/ Oh really? They will control pot the way they control tobacco,

1.) July 2009 Page 2 Federal Regulation of Tobacco: A Summary On June 22, 2009, President Barack Obama signed into law the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, giving the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) comprehensive authority to regulate the manufacturing, marketing, and sale of tobacco products.

2.) Home grow laws | Colorado Marijuana
Coloradans can grow marijuana in their homes for personal use.
Up to six plants are allowed per Colorado resident over age 21, with as many as three plants flowering at one time.
Beginning January 1, 2018, all residences will be limited to a maximum of 12 plants unless certain requirements are met. Be sure to check your local laws for specific details.
Don’t forget that counties and municipalities can pass stricter laws. For example, Denver limits a home grow to 12 plants, even if there are three or more adults over age 21 in the residence.
The laws are different for medical marijuana users.
Marijuana plants must be kept in an enclosed, locked area that can’t be viewed openly. This means the plants can’t be outside.
At homes with residents under 21, any marijuana grow area must be enclosed and locked in a separate space that minors can’t access.
At homes without residents under 21, extra precautions must be taken to make sure any visiting youth don’t have access to marijuana plants.
Homegrown marijuana or marijuana products can’t be sold to anyone.
Only licensed grow establishments can sell marijuana products.

3.) Alcohol Policy | National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA)
General Alcohol Policy

A combination of Federal, State, and local laws help shape the role alcohol plays in the United States, including how we:

Manufacture alcohol
Sell alcohol
Decide who can drink alcohol
Respond to alcohol-related problems
The primary Federal law governing alcohol policy is the 21st Amendment, which repealed national prohibition. It also gives individual States control over:

Whether to allow sale of alcohol in the State
Whether to allow importing alcohol into the State
How to distribute alcohol throughout the State
Possession of alcohol in the State
 
WTF does that mean and what does it have at all to do with what I posted?
A funding source?

Legalize marijuana on a national level tax it and there's your funding.
Yeah that is what they said in Oregon. "Give over control to the government and everybody will profit!" They said it about logging and marijuana. It is a lie. Never give over control of resources to the government.
The government does not need to control marijuana. The government just needs to TAX IT! Just like they do whiskey. The gov't doesn't control whiskey. They TAX IT!
/----/ Oh really? They will control pot the way they control tobacco,

1.) July 2009 Page 2 Federal Regulation of Tobacco: A Summary On June 22, 2009, President Barack Obama signed into law the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, giving the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) comprehensive authority to regulate the manufacturing, marketing, and sale of tobacco products.

2.) Home grow laws | Colorado Marijuana
Coloradans can grow marijuana in their homes for personal use.
Up to six plants are allowed per Colorado resident over age 21, with as many as three plants flowering at one time.
Beginning January 1, 2018, all residences will be limited to a maximum of 12 plants unless certain requirements are met. Be sure to check your local laws for specific details.
Don’t forget that counties and municipalities can pass stricter laws. For example, Denver limits a home grow to 12 plants, even if there are three or more adults over age 21 in the residence.
The laws are different for medical marijuana users.
Marijuana plants must be kept in an enclosed, locked area that can’t be viewed openly. This means the plants can’t be outside.
At homes with residents under 21, any marijuana grow area must be enclosed and locked in a separate space that minors can’t access.
At homes without residents under 21, extra precautions must be taken to make sure any visiting youth don’t have access to marijuana plants.
Homegrown marijuana or marijuana products can’t be sold to anyone.
Only licensed grow establishments can sell marijuana products.

3.) Alcohol Policy | National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA)
General Alcohol Policy

A combination of Federal, State, and local laws help shape the role alcohol plays in the United States, including how we:

Manufacture alcohol
Sell alcohol
Decide who can drink alcohol
Respond to alcohol-related problems
The primary Federal law governing alcohol policy is the 21st Amendment, which repealed national prohibition. It also gives individual States control over:

Whether to allow sale of alcohol in the State
Whether to allow importing alcohol into the State
How to distribute alcohol throughout the State
Possession of alcohol in the State

Spot on
 
The poorest region in the nation that needs the most from healthcare continue to vote against their interest. Hi, Southern Impoverish people! :banana:

Surely they value a few doses of hillbilly heroin over a dental or medical plan that may save their lives.

Then again, even affluent radio hosts, cough, cough Rush Boy, bought it by the bulk. :bye1:


Overall, it's going to be hard for the people of my own white color during these times.
 
Nothing I said is different. You just went off on a tangent because you misread what I said. Free healthcare socialized medicine. Thats when the hospitals are owned by the government and the medical personnel are all employees of the government. Operating Costs would be lowered considerably. Doctors would start at the rank of Captain, Nurses would start as 1st LTs, and aides, specialists and technicians would be enlisted. The chief administrator, depending on the size of the hospital and staff, could be a Colonel in smaller hospitals and up to a 2 star General in larger ones. People would still be required to have government insurance so as to offset operational costs but it would all be controlled centrally by the Feds instead of individual states or greedy private entities.

Operational costs would be controlled by the Feds....so would the quality (lack of).
I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.
VA Hospitals Scandal - News & Videos - CBS News

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.
 
Operational costs would be controlled by the Feds....so would the quality (lack of).
I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.
VA Hospitals Scandal - News & Videos - CBS News

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

The bus ride up to Medical Center Portland was worse than scoureling the rat tunnels of Vietnam. Even the former pencil pushers were complaining about aches and pains but proclaming combat was tough on their later year minds.
 
I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.
VA Hospitals Scandal - News & Videos - CBS News

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

The bus ride up to Medical Center Portland was worse than scoureling the rat tunnels of Vietnam. Even the former pencil pushers were complaining about aches and pains but proclaming combat was tough on their later year minds.

What are you trying to say? You're only 39 - so you weren't in Vietnam.
 

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

The bus ride up to Medical Center Portland was worse than scoureling the rat tunnels of Vietnam. Even the former pencil pushers were complaining about aches and pains but proclaming combat was tough on their later year minds.

What are you trying to say? You're only 39 - so you weren't in Vietnam.

Where did you get 39 from.....another messageboard setting I suppose. Big Gobermint at it's best! :banana:
 
Operational costs would be controlled by the Feds....so would the quality (lack of).
I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.
VA Hospitals Scandal - News & Videos - CBS News

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.
 
I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.
VA Hospitals Scandal - News & Videos - CBS News

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Tell us what you find...
 

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Tell us what you find...

Once again private doctors/hospitals are not the topic here, VA's are.
 
I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.
VA Hospitals Scandal - News & Videos - CBS News

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

There is actually a provision in Obama's plan that let's you choose plans across state lines. Wonder why Providers never chose to do such a thing.......Louisiana providing California the much care needed in a crisis. That sounds nice.
 
That is giving people a choice instead of forcing them to buy a for-profit product.


What an IDIOT.........eliminate the mandate, and the money for subsidies will NOT be there....

Eliminate the subsidies and MILLIONS of people cannot purchase anything.....

Your ilk will have to live with the anger of those without HC insurance......Sure, go for it and see what happens.
Can't get any dumber than this. Nat makes up the most insane crap.
 
Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Tell us what you find...

Once again private doctors/hospitals are not the topic here, VA's are.

Again you never took the Portland TriMet to the VA Hospital....OSHU and the Children's Hospital is up there too.
 
Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Tell us what you find...

Once again private doctors/hospitals are not the topic here, VA's are.

Not true - if they are the alternative to the VA. Think...
 
Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.


Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Tell us what you find...

Once again private doctors/hospitals are not the topic here, VA's are.
Hold on a minute. I think that's a fair comparison. I started this exchange with the idea that the medical facilities of this country should be militarized. One of your poorly educated friends brought up the VA scandals as proof that my idea wouldn't work. So Lakhotas challenge is valid and on topic.
Private hospitals VA hospitals and military hospitals, should be judged on a case by case basis. That being said, the militarization of American medical care would be just as good or of better quality than it is today under private ownership. And..it would be a whole lot cheaper to operate. snd more affordable for everyone.
 
Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

You mean in Arizona? I was right here. It was the exception - not the rule. Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Most VA facilities do a good job of taking care of vets. I have no complaints - and I also have private healthcare insurance. I prefer the VA - as do most of my friends.

It's the exception....why not it's only one state...you fricken libs are a hoot.

Do some research on private doctor and hospital scandals. Tell us what you find...

Once again private doctors/hospitals are not the topic here, VA's are.
Hold on a minute. I think that's a fair comparison. I started this exchange with the idea that the medical facilities of this country should be militarized. One of your poorly educated friends brought up the VA scandals as proof that my idea wouldn't work. So Lakhotas challenge is valid and on topic.
Private hospitals VA hospitals and military hospitals, should be judged on a case by case basis. That being said, the militarization of American medical care would be just as good or of better quality than it is today under private ownership. And..it would be a whole lot cheaper to operate. snd more affordable for everyone.


No you hold on a second we just had the military VA scandel... what did you think it just disappeared over night?

What do you think Obama fixed it?

It's still there, the problem is still there
 

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