EPA Ignores Science to Propose Most Expensive Regulation in History

[Obiwan]

You're about as "conservative" as Pol Pot. I have yet to see you submit a single post that contains any hint of conservatism.

Who do you think you're fooling?

You hit your head again ?
What I think you are yammering about is last paragraph and the highlighted "about me".
That's one , o fucked in the head one, is the blogger who obiwanker used a source
A non credible one.
Could be any less brain damaged?

?

And YOU talk about a credible source when you post sources that delete linked pages ON THEIR OWN SITE because they're bullshit???

False you have no evidence to backup that assumption.
Even if they deleted it does not change its credibility.
You're just desperate to make it seem that way lol.

Then why would they delete their own source material , knowing that it could leave their article open to challenge???

You NEVER delete your "proof" unless it blows your entire case out of the water.

And then all you have is a bunch of hot air, with no proof whatsoever.

False there are any number of reasons any given site would delete material.
Your so called reasons don't even make the list .
Copyright problems are the major cause
.
I do love your completely no grasp of reality reasoning.

When it's sourced???

Face it, if they're yanking it down, they got caught with bullshit...

But YOU still consider them to be credible even though they can't link to VALID evidence...

Go figure...

 

[daws101]

You hit your head again ?
What I think you are yammering about is last paragraph and the highlighted "about me".
That's one , o fucked in the head one, is the blogger who obiwanker used a source
A non credible one.
Could be any less brain damaged?

?

And YOU talk about a credible source when you post sources that delete linked pages ON THEIR OWN SITE because they're bullshit???

False you have no evidence to backup that assumption.
Even if they deleted it does not change its credibility.
You're just desperate to make it seem that way lol.

Then why would they delete their own source material , knowing that it could leave their article open to challenge???

You NEVER delete your "proof" unless it blows your entire case out of the water.

And then all you have is a bunch of hot air, with no proof whatsoever.

False there are any number of reasons any given site would delete material.
Your so called reasons don't even make the list .
Copyright problems are the major cause
.
I do love your completely no grasp of reality reasoning.

When it's sourced???

Face it, if they're yanking it down, they got caught with bullshit...

But YOU still consider them to be credible even though they can't link to VALID evidence...

Go figure...

You can always dream.

 

[BluesLegend]

The left uses the EPA to attack people and corporations they hate, that is its purpose. And they have no respect for the law how often do the courts have to step in and call off the EPA Gestapo, yes all the time.

 

[daws101]

The left uses the EPA to attack people and corporations they hate, that is its purpose. And they have no respect for the law how often do the courts have to step in and call off the EPA Gestapo, yes all the time.

Bullshit.

 

[daws101]

Types of Ozone

GROUND LEVEL OZONE
What is it?
Though it acts as a protective layer high above the earth, ozone can be harmful to breathe. It is the prime ingredient of smog, in our cities.

Why is there a problem?

Ozone is not emitted directly into the air but rather is formed by gases called nitrogen oxides (NOx) and volatile organic compounds (VOCs) that react with oxygen in the air in the presence of strong sunlight, creating effects of concern when temperatures are higher during summer.

Ground-level ozone forms readily in the atmosphere in hot weather. On warm days, VOCs and NOx "bake" together in the sun forming ozone concentrations which can remain high over large regions. Many urban areas tend to have high ozone levels. However, areas downwind of urban settings are also subject to high ozone exposure, as winds carry VOCs and NOx from their original sources.

Changing weather patterns (especially the number of hot, sunny days) and periods of air stagnation create yearly differences in ozone concentrations. It is often difficult to make long-term predictions concerning ground-level ozone because the number of "bad" ozone days varies greatly from one year to the next and there are so many factors which influence ozone formation.

Health and environmental effects of ground-level ozone

When inhaled, ozone can damage the lungs.

Relatively low amounts of ozone can cause chest pain, coughing, nausea, throat irritation, and congestion. It may also worsen bronchitis, heart disease, emphysema, and asthma.

Healthy people as well as those with respiratory problems, experience breathing problems when exposed to ozone.

The Environmental Protection Agency has established a maximum ozone health standard. A single hour of exposure to ozone at this level is sufficient to cause negative respiratory effects. In fact, 13 million U.S. adults are currently exposed to ozone levels above the health standard for at least one hour in the summer. During heavy exercise these people are at particular risk for short-term health effects. Many more individuals may be repeatedly exposed to lower ozone levels which may cause long-term adverse effects. About 64 million people live in areas with ozone levels greater than the maximum health standard.

Ground-level ozone interferes with the production and storage of starches within plants, reducing their growth rates.

It damages the quality of crops (such as corn, wheat, and soybeans), making them less valuable on the market and can substantially reduce crop yield.

Ozone reduces the ability of trees and plants to fight disease. It is estimated that agricultural crop losses of $2 to $3 billion dollars per year can be attributable to ozone exposure. The extent of forest damage is currently being studied. Ozone has been shown to damage various tree seedlings.

What is being done about the problem?

The Clean Air Act of 1990 requires EPA, states, and cities to initiate a series of programs that will further reduce emissions of VOCs and NOX from cars, fuels, industrial and chemical facilities, power plants, and consumer and commercial products among other sources. Cleaner cars and fuels, new kinds of gasoline nozzles, enhanced vehicle inspection, and other programs will be phased in over the next decade.

HIGH ALTITUDE OZONE

What is it?
In the stratosphere, high altitude ozone forms a protective layer 10 to 35 miles above the earth to shield us from the sun's harmful ultraviolet (UV) rays. Ozone is naturally produced and destroyed at a constant rate in the stratosphere.

Why is there a problem?

Stratospheric ozone is gradually being destroyed by chemicals called chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) and other ozone-depleting substances. These ozone depleters degrade slowly and can remain intact until they reach the stratosphere. There they are broken apart by the sun's ultraviolet rays. This reaction sets free the chlorine or bromine molecules of these chemicals, allowing them to attack and destroy the protective ozone blanket.

It can take decades for them to reach the upper atmosphere. Ozone-depleting substances released today will contribute to ozone destruction many years from now. One CFC molecule can lead to the elimination of 100,000 ozone molecules. Consequently, ozone is disappearing much faster than it is being replaced naturally.

Satellite information indicates ozone losses on as a global scale. The most significant losses have occurred over the North and South Poles, because ozone depletion occurs rapidly in extremely cold weather conditions. Fluctuating weather cycles affect the level of ozone in the stratosphere. This makes it difficult for scientists to accurately predict the future condition of the ozone layer.

Health and environmental effects if high-altitude ozone is decreased

If destruction of the ozone layer continues, more harmful ultraviolet rays will reach the earth's surface and its inhabitants, leading to increases in the number of skin cancer cases and eye cataracts (which can cause blindness). The United Nations estimates a 26 percent increase in skin cancer cases, 1.6 million more cataract cases, and 24,000 deaths from melanoma (a serious form of skin cancer) worldwide by the end of the decade.

Ozone depletion/increased ultraviolet rays will also damage UV-sensitive crops, such as soybeans.

Additionally, ozone depletion is suspected to cause decreases in phytoplankton, a plant within the ocean. Decreased phytoplankton could:

1. reduce fish populations (since phytoplankton is an important plant/food source in the marine food chain).
2. increase the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, because plants "breathe in" carbon dioxide and "breathe out" oxygen.

Increased UV radiation can also be instrumental in forming more ground-level ozone.
What is being done about the problem?

In 1987 the United States entered into as a series of international agreements called the Montreal Protocol which were designed to limit and eventually eliminate world-wide production of ozone-depleting substances by the turn of the century. Under the Clean Air Act of 1990 the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is accelerating the schedule for phasing out CFCs and certain other ozone-depleting substances to the end of 1995.

The Clean Air Act requires the use of written labels on all products containing CFCs or similar substances and prohibits non-essential ozone-depleting products such as fog horns. In addition, the CAA prohibits releasing car and home air conditioner refrigerants or appliance refrigerants into the atmosphere.

WHAT CAN YOU DO?

Types of Ozone

 

[Wyatt earp]

Facts Can Change

Facts are just statements about which scientists or educated people agree at a given time.

Facts can change. For instance, a few thousand years ago it was a fact that the earth was flat. This was a fact because at one time, most educated people believed the earth was flat, but it is not a fact anymore because virtually no scientist or educated person today actually believes the earth is flat.


Facts Can Change

Thousands of years ago = Alexander the greats time, they knew the earth was round ...

It wasn't till around 600 years ago the Naomi Klein type convinced the pope it was flat...

 

[daws101]

Facts Can Change

Facts are just statements about which scientists or educated people agree at a given time.

Facts can change. For instance, a few thousand years ago it was a fact that the earth was flat. This was a fact because at one time, most educated people believed the earth was flat, but it is not a fact anymore because virtually no scientist or educated person today actually believes the earth is flat.


Facts Can Change

Thousands of years ago = Alexander the greats time, they knew the earth was round ...

It wasn't till around 600 years ago the Naomi Klein type convinced the pope it was flat...

False they speculated that the earth was a flat circle not a sphere.
Huge difference
Thanks for playing.

 

[Wyatt earp]

brought to you by the folks

who thought putting mercury in millions upon millions of glass bulbs

was a great idea

The EPA was non existent when that was done.
It would be more accurate to give credit to the people who thought it was a great idea to spray DDT on school play grounds while school was in session.

Wrong again, numskull. Compact Fluorescent Bulbs were mandated during the Obama Administration.

False fluorescent bulbs have been around since the 1940s or even earlier.
Again you are full of shit.

So now you are going full retard on us?

You don't know Obama mandated fluorescent bulbs in 2014?

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/12/31/end-road-for-incandescent-light-bulb/

 

[Wyatt earp]

Facts Can Change

Facts are just statements about which scientists or educated people agree at a given time.

Facts can change. For instance, a few thousand years ago it was a fact that the earth was flat. This was a fact because at one time, most educated people believed the earth was flat, but it is not a fact anymore because virtually no scientist or educated person today actually believes the earth is flat.


Facts Can Change

Thousands of years ago = Alexander the greats time, they knew the earth was round ...

It wasn't till around 600 years ago the Naomi Klein type convinced the pope it was flat...

False they speculated that the earth was a flat circle not a sphere.
Huge difference
Thanks for playing.

Bull shit give me a link

 

[Wyatt earp]

Facts Can Change

Facts are just statements about which scientists or educated people agree at a given time.

Facts can change. For instance, a few thousand years ago it was a fact that the earth was flat. This was a fact because at one time, most educated people believed the earth was flat, but it is not a fact anymore because virtually no scientist or educated person today actually believes the earth is flat.


Facts Can Change

Thousands of years ago = Alexander the greats time, they knew the earth was round ...

It wasn't till around 600 years ago the Naomi Klein type convinced the pope it was flat...

False they speculated that the earth was a flat circle not a sphere.
Huge difference
Thanks for playing.

Bull shit give me a link

Tick tock, tick tock.....

I am waiting for a link....

 

[Wyatt earp]

Still waiting, tick tock

Eratosthenes - Wikipedia, the free [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eratosthenes%27_method_for_determining_the_size_of_the_Earth.svg']
Illustration showing a portion of the globe showing a part of the African continent. The sunbeams shown as two rays hitting the ground at Syene and Alexandria. Angle of sunbeam and the gnomons (vertical sticks) is shown at Alexandria which allowed Eratosthenes' estimates of radius and circumference of Earth[/URL]

 

[Wyatt earp]

Facts Can Change

Facts are just statements about which scientists or educated people agree at a given time.

Facts can change. For instance, a few thousand years ago it was a fact that the earth was flat. This was a fact because at one time, most educated people believed the earth was flat, but it is not a fact anymore because virtually no scientist or educated person today actually believes the earth is flat.


Facts Can Change

Thousands of years ago = Alexander the greats time, they knew the earth was round ...

It wasn't till around 600 years ago the Naomi Klein type convinced the pope it was flat...

False they speculated that the earth was a flat circle not a sphere.
Huge difference
Thanks for playing.

I figured you would go off line... Because I burned your ass twice .. You ignorant liberal fool in science and politics..

 

[daws101]

brought to you by the folks

who thought putting mercury in millions upon millions of glass bulbs

was a great idea

The EPA was non existent when that was done.
It would be more accurate to give credit to the people who thought it was a great idea to spray DDT on school play grounds while school was in session.

Wrong again, numskull. Compact Fluorescent Bulbs were mandated during the Obama Administration.

False fluorescent bulbs have been around since the 1940s or even earlier.
Again you are full of shit.

So now you are going full retard on us?

You don't know Obama mandated fluorescent bulbs in 2014?

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/12/31/end-road-for-incandescent-light-bulb/

Yes I did, your point?

 

[daws101]

Still waiting, tick tock

Eratosthenes - Wikipedia, the free
Illustration showing a portion of the globe showing a part of the African continent. The sunbeams shown as two rays hitting the ground at Syene and Alexandria. Angle of sunbeam and the gnomons (vertical sticks) is shown at Alexandria which allowed Eratosthenes' estimates of radius and circumference of Earth

Cue buzzer. .
A circle has a circumference it's not evidence that the is sphere.

 

[daws101]

Facts Can Change

Facts are just statements about which scientists or educated people agree at a given time.

Facts can change. For instance, a few thousand years ago it was a fact that the earth was flat. This was a fact because at one time, most educated people believed the earth was flat, but it is not a fact anymore because virtually no scientist or educated person today actually believes the earth is flat.


Facts Can Change

Thousands of years ago = Alexander the greats time, they knew the earth was round ...

It wasn't till around 600 years ago the Naomi Klein type convinced the pope it was flat...

False they speculated that the earth was a flat circle not a sphere.
Huge difference
Thanks for playing.

I figured you would go off line... Because I burned your ass twice .. You ignorant liberal fool in science and politics..

You have a rich fantasy life.
You've burned jack shit.

 

[daws101]

Spherical Earth
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This article is about the history. For the mathematics, see Earth radius.

Medieval artistic representation of a spherical Earth – with compartments representing earth, air, and water (c. 1400).
The concept of a spherical Earth dates back to around the 6th century BC, when it was mentioned in ancient Greek philosophy,[1] but remained a matter of philosophical speculation until the 3rd century BC, when Hellenistic astronomy established the spherical shape of the earth as a physical given. The paradigm was gradually adopted throughout the Old World during Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages.[2][3][4][5] A practical demonstration of Earth's sphericity was achieved by Ferdinand Magellan and Juan Sebastián Elcano's expedition's circumnavigation (1519−1522).[6]

The concept of a spherical Earth displaced earlier beliefs in a flat Earth: In early Mesopotamian mythology, the world was portrayed as a flat disk floating in the ocean and surrounded by a spherical sky,[7] and this forms the premise for early world maps like those of Anaximander and Hecataeus of Miletus. Other speculations on the shape of Earth include a seven-layered ziggurat or cosmic mountain, alluded to in the Avesta and ancient Persian writings (see seven climes).

The realization that the figure of the Earth is more accurately described as an ellipsoid dates to the 18th century (Maupertuis). In the early 19th century, the flattening of the earth ellipsoid was determined to be of the order of 1/300 (Delambre, Everest). The modern value as determined by the US DoD World Geodetic System since the 1960s is close to 1/298.25.[8]


Circumference (from Latin circumferentia, meaning "carrying around") is the linear distance around the edge of a closed curve or circular object.[1] The circumference of a circle is of special importance in geometry and trigonometry. Informally "circumference" may also refer to the edge itself rather than to the length of the edge. Circumference is a special case of perimeter: the perimeter is the length around any closed figure, but conventionally "perimeter" is typically used in reference to a polygon while "circumference" typically refers to a continuously differentiable curve.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Facts Can Change

Facts are just statements about which scientists or educated people agree at a given time.

Facts can change. For instance, a few thousand years ago it was a fact that the earth was flat. This was a fact because at one time, most educated people believed the earth was flat, but it is not a fact anymore because virtually no scientist or educated person today actually believes the earth is flat.


Facts Can Change

Thousands of years ago = Alexander the greats time, they knew the earth was round ...

It wasn't till around 600 years ago the Naomi Klein type convinced the pope it was flat...

False they speculated that the earth was a flat circle not a sphere.
Huge difference
Thanks for playing.

I figured you would go off line... Because I burned your ass twice .. You ignorant liberal fool in science and politics..

You have a rich fantasy life.
You've burned jack shit.

Do you even know what a circumference and radius. Means? Dip shit?

Also I am still waiting on your link the earth was a flat rounded sphere?

You really hate science....

 

[daws101]

Facts Can Change

Facts are just statements about which scientists or educated people agree at a given time.

Facts can change. For instance, a few thousand years ago it was a fact that the earth was flat. This was a fact because at one time, most educated people believed the earth was flat, but it is not a fact anymore because virtually no scientist or educated person today actually believes the earth is flat.


Facts Can Change

Thousands of years ago = Alexander the greats time, they knew the earth was round ...

It wasn't till around 600 years ago the Naomi Klein type convinced the pope it was flat...

False they speculated that the earth was a flat circle not a sphere.
Huge difference
Thanks for playing.

I figured you would go off line... Because I burned your ass twice .. You ignorant liberal fool in science and politics..

You have a rich fantasy life.
You've burned jack shit.

Do you even know what a circumference and radius. Means? Dip shit?

Also I am still waiting on your link the earth was a flat rounded sphere?

You really hate science....

The concept of a spherical Earth displaced earlier beliefs in a flat Earth: In early Mesopotamian mythology, the world was portrayed as a flat disk floating in the ocean and surrounded by a spherical sky,[7] and this forms the premise for early world maps like those of Anaximander and Hecataeus of Miletus. Other speculations on the shape of Earth include a seven-layered ziggurat or cosmic mountain, alluded to in the Avesta and ancient Persian writings (see seven climes).
no I really love science ..when i see slack jaws like yourself misinterpreting it I bust a gut
a radius is the distance around a circle
geometry is what you use to make a sphere.

 

[Wyatt earp]

brought to you by the folks

who thought putting mercury in millions upon millions of glass bulbs

was a great idea

The EPA was non existent when that was done.
It would be more accurate to give credit to the people who thought it was a great idea to spray DDT on school play grounds while school was in session.

Wrong again, numskull. Compact Fluorescent Bulbs were mandated during the Obama Administration.

False fluorescent bulbs have been around since the 1940s or even earlier.
Again you are full of shit.

So now you are going full retard on us?

You don't know Obama mandated fluorescent bulbs in 2014?

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/12/31/end-road-for-incandescent-light-bulb/

Yes I did, your point?

Get over yourself I burned your ass twice ignorant fruit loop...
Eratosthenes proved the earth was round...

 

[daws101]

The EPA was non existent when that was done.
It would be more accurate to give credit to the people who thought it was a great idea to spray DDT on school play grounds while school was in session.

Wrong again, numskull. Compact Fluorescent Bulbs were mandated during the Obama Administration.

False fluorescent bulbs have been around since the 1940s or even earlier.
Again you are full of shit.

So now you are going full retard on us?

You don't know Obama mandated fluorescent bulbs in 2014?

Lights out for the incandescent light bulb as of Jan. 1, 2014

Yes I did, your point?

Get over yourself I burned your ass twice ignorant fruit loop...
Eratosthenes proved the earth was round...

false he....speculated the earth was round.....it was not proven until Magellan-Elcano expedition, which sailed from Spain in 1519 and returned in 1522 after having crossed the Atlantic, the Pacific and the Indian oceans.