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The very first time I visited an aikido class, sensei who was about the same size as the Staten Island officer, called one of his students up to attack. The student, Joe, was a Corrections Officer at Rikers and only slightly smaller than Garner. Joe attacked sensei and literally a fraction of a second later Joe was flat on his back. The point being that there are many way Garner could have been subdued short of lethal force. And, once again, these same cops now are in body armor armed with AR-15's in Grand Central Station and I don't feel safe
They didn't use lethal force. The problem is Gardner was in poor health and he was mouthing off. He didn't deserve even being cuffed and stuffed but the law is the law. Fighting cops is always a losing proposition.
The union has nothing to do with this. The decision to not charge him is the fault of the prosecutor and no one else's.The very first time I visited an aikido class, sensei who was about the same size as the Staten Island officer, called one of his students up to attack. The student, Joe, was a Corrections Officer at Rikers and only slightly smaller than Garner. Joe attacked sensei and literally a fraction of a second later Joe was flat on his back. The point being that there are many way Garner could have been subdued short of lethal force. And, once again, these same cops now are in body armor armed with AR-15's in Grand Central Station and I don't feel safe
They didn't use lethal force. The problem is Gardner was in poor health and he was mouthing off. He didn't deserve even being cuffed and stuffed but the law is the law. Fighting cops is always a losing proposition.
The real problem is that even if it determined that a cop was wrong to arrest you, or used excessive force, 9 times out of 10 the cop gets a slap on the wrist, and the person victimized gets the shaft.
Advising people to just submit only works if the cop gets punished if it turns out their violated protocol or wrongly arrested a person. Right now that doesn't happen, and again, blame public unions for that.
The union has nothing to do with this. The decision to not charge him is the fault of the prosecutor and no one else's.The very first time I visited an aikido class, sensei who was about the same size as the Staten Island officer, called one of his students up to attack. The student, Joe, was a Corrections Officer at Rikers and only slightly smaller than Garner. Joe attacked sensei and literally a fraction of a second later Joe was flat on his back. The point being that there are many way Garner could have been subdued short of lethal force. And, once again, these same cops now are in body armor armed with AR-15's in Grand Central Station and I don't feel safe
They didn't use lethal force. The problem is Gardner was in poor health and he was mouthing off. He didn't deserve even being cuffed and stuffed but the law is the law. Fighting cops is always a losing proposition.
The real problem is that even if it determined that a cop was wrong to arrest you, or used excessive force, 9 times out of 10 the cop gets a slap on the wrist, and the person victimized gets the shaft.
Advising people to just submit only works if the cop gets punished if it turns out their violated protocol or wrongly arrested a person. Right now that doesn't happen, and again, blame public unions for that.
If the guy had not resisted arrest in the first place things would not have gone a far as it did.
As soon as he said don't touch me is when they had to take him down.
There was a black woman officer who was in charge there at the scene and she did not stop them because she knew they were not chocking him.
Cletus.
Didn`t you savage consistently post the coroners report as evidence to support your outlandish claims in the michael bron case?
Well. The coroners report this time clearly underlines that the victim died due to choking.
Now go fuck some animals and play with mud Cletus.
That may be the most idiotic post of the year.The union has nothing to do with this. The decision to not charge him is the fault of the prosecutor and no one else's.The very first time I visited an aikido class, sensei who was about the same size as the Staten Island officer, called one of his students up to attack. The student, Joe, was a Corrections Officer at Rikers and only slightly smaller than Garner. Joe attacked sensei and literally a fraction of a second later Joe was flat on his back. The point being that there are many way Garner could have been subdued short of lethal force. And, once again, these same cops now are in body armor armed with AR-15's in Grand Central Station and I don't feel safe
They didn't use lethal force. The problem is Gardner was in poor health and he was mouthing off. He didn't deserve even being cuffed and stuffed but the law is the law. Fighting cops is always a losing proposition.
The real problem is that even if it determined that a cop was wrong to arrest you, or used excessive force, 9 times out of 10 the cop gets a slap on the wrist, and the person victimized gets the shaft.
Advising people to just submit only works if the cop gets punished if it turns out their violated protocol or wrongly arrested a person. Right now that doesn't happen, and again, blame public unions for that.
Then she should be fired as well.If the guy had not resisted arrest in the first place things would not have gone a far as it did.
As soon as he said don't touch me is when they had to take him down.
There was a black woman officer who was in charge there at the scene and she did not stop them because she knew they were not chocking him.
Cletus.
Didn`t you savage consistently post the coroners report as evidence to support your outlandish claims in the michael bron case?
Well. The coroners report this time clearly underlines that the victim died due to choking.
Now go fuck some animals and play with mud Cletus.
The guy who died his name is Cletus Garner. I am peach174
NO you must have me mixed up with someone else.
The Black woman police Sergent was in charge and she did not stop them, the press is not talking about her being in charge. She could have orderd them to get off of him she didn't because she knew he was not being choked.
The man was unhealthy and weighed 400 pounds. He could have had that heart attack at any time.
That's racist.Then she should be fired as well.If the guy had not resisted arrest in the first place things would not have gone a far as it did.
As soon as he said don't touch me is when they had to take him down.
There was a black woman officer who was in charge there at the scene and she did not stop them because she knew they were not chocking him.
Cletus.
Didn`t you savage consistently post the coroners report as evidence to support your outlandish claims in the michael bron case?
Well. The coroners report this time clearly underlines that the victim died due to choking.
Now go fuck some animals and play with mud Cletus.
The guy who died his name is Cletus Garner. I am peach174
NO you must have me mixed up with someone else.
The Black woman police Sergent was in charge and she did not stop them, the press is not talking about her being in charge. She could have orderd them to get off of him she didn't because she knew he was not being choked.
The man was unhealthy and weighed 400 pounds. He could have had that heart attack at any time.
PC, are you turning into a commie?
I agree with you PC but both were to blame on this Garner and the Cops.
Garner who said don't touch me and the Cops who should have backed off when he kept saying he could not breath.
I don't think that firing them will do anything. They need to change the way they are trained. If that is not addressed then you will get the same type of behavior.
The video of Eric Garner's death is one of those two or three minutes that leaves it's impact forever.
"I can't breathe...." ....eleven times.
There is nothing good here, not for anyone. No one will say 'I'm glad that happened...' because no one is.
Radio host Sandy Boyer, from the communist radio voice in NYC, WBAI, wrote the following for the Socialist Worker, Will there be justice for Eric Garner SocialistWorker.org
1. "IN NEW York City, like in Ferguson, African Americans aren't safe walking down the street.
2. Eric Garner was strangled to death by Patrolman Daniel Pantaleo in broad daylight on Staten Island .....
3. His killing might have gone almost unnoticed if a friend hadn't videotaped it--only to be arrested in retaliation for recording a police murder.
4. .... Pantaleo can be seen holding Eric Garner in an illegal chokehold as he wrestles him to the ground. Garner can be heard crying out, "I can't breathe." The video shows Pantaleo pushing Garner's face into the sidewalk. Garner died a few minutes later--but police waited seven minutes before trying to resuscitate him.
5. New York City Medical Examiner Barbara Sampson has ruled the Garner's death was a homicide. She found that it was the chokehold, ... that killed him.
6. Garner's "crime" was underselling local merchants by selling "loosies"--single, untaxed cigarettes--on the street for 50 cents apiece.
7. Cops routinely hassled Garner. He was out on bail for selling untaxed cigarettes the day they killed him.
When the cops came after him, Garner threw his arms in the air and yelled, "I was just minding my own business. Every time you see me, you want to mess with me. I'm tired of it. It stops today." Will there be justice for Eric Garner SocialistWorker.org
FULL Black Man KILLED After NYPD Cop Puts Him In CHOKEHOLD For Breaking Up a FIGHT - YouTube
STFU, Cleonce'.If the guy had not resisted arrest in the first place things would not have gone a far as it did.
As soon as he said don't touch me is when they had to take him down.
There was a black woman officer who was in charge there at the scene and she did not stop them because she knew they were not chocking him.
Cletus.
Didn`t you savage consistantly post the coroners report as evidence to support your outlandish claims in the michael bron case?
Well. The coroners report this time clearly underlines that the victim died due to choking.
Now go fuck some animals and play with mud Cletus.
You have to go up the chain of command a bit to find a white guy to blame this on.If the guy had not resisted arrest in the first place things would not have gone a far as it did.
As soon as he said don't touch me is when they had to take him down.
There was a black woman officer who was in charge there at the scene and she did not stop them because she knew they were not chocking him.
Cletus.
Didn`t you savage consistently post the coroners report as evidence to support your outlandish claims in the michael bron case?
Well. The coroners report this time clearly underlines that the victim died due to choking.
Now go fuck some animals and play with mud Cletus.
The guy who died his name is Eric Garner. I am peach174
NO you must have me mixed up with someone else.
The Black woman police Sergent was in charge and she did not stop them, the press is not talking about her being in charge. She could have orderd them to get off of him she didn't because she knew he was not being choked.
The man was unhealthy and weighed 400 pounds. He could have had that heart attack at any time.
Black men get killed in these confrontations mainly because of their seemingly innate tendency to react with provocative belligerence to the kind of oppressive arrogance that comes with most badges. Rather than going with the flow they instinctively provoke aggressive cops with smart-ass comments, questions, or body language, and in doing so they allow the cops to lead them in the direction of a beating -- or worse.[...]
14. ... The result has been an epidemic of petty arrests for everything from drinking a beer on a stoop to jaywalking, smoking a joint or fare-beating. For Eric Garner, it was selling untaxed cigarettes..... Black men get killed in these confrontations because that's the way the system is designed to work. Stockbrokers may use coke, but there will never be a drug sweep on Wall Street.
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BAI sometimes has some excellent programming. I tuned it in regularly back in the 60s. Not so much, anymore.I regularly listen to the commie radio station, WBAI, a Pacifica endeavor.....rarely agree, but they give me the idea for a lot of my posts.
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