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I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
Of course not,
No really one can read William II words and also Karl Lueger use the Jewish Question before Hitler even knew a Jew . Also never forget the Jews declared war on German in 1933 at its lowest point. Now Hilter we know spent much time in Vienna of where he seen first hand the roles of the Jews here. I must say when one asks why Germany felt the way it did , one must also look at the actions of the Jews. Obviously Hitler was not alone in his feelings.
We see the same thing here in the states.
Penelope, keep this thing in mind that I always tell business owners and my children regarding staff and friends: "desperate people do desperate things". In business and friendship there are other applications to that, but in reference to the Nazis, we have to keep in mind that Germany was a devastated nation. The Treaty of Versailles completely crushed the German economy and German patriotism. The people were totally desperate and in that desperation they latched on to an extreme philosophy. Certainly, there was anti-Semitism in Germany to some degree, just as there is all over the world. But they were a convenient and desperate scapegoat for Hitler and the Nazi party to point to. Hitler was not going to gain power by saying 'we have only ourselves to blame'.
I totally agree - Hitler's rise to power was far more complex than people realize. The terms of WW1 led to it and the Jews have always been a convenient scapegoat due to their minority status and the Christian view towards them that blamed them for killing Christ and embraced the stereotypes. He also offered his people an opposition to communism and linked Jews with communism.
Not scapegoat, the cause , they got communism in Russia, but darn if Germany was going to give in so easy, but boy they have been paying for it every since. We also got shown who was boss in 9-11 as well. Killing Christ are you kidding, the Jews they disliked were the scoundrels, the atheists, the take over your country kind. That card was dead for a long time. The jews , the materialistic ones, spiritually dead.
"The cause"?
Who was boss in 9-11?
The "take over your country" kind?
Oh, this is indeed interesting
Communism wasn't a bad idea in those days - the class system and deeply entrenched inequities needed to be confronted.
I agree but not to the extent it was. Now we have capitalism in the US, and so now we need socialism which will lead to communism , of which the gov. is in control and who is the Government, right now its peons who do what the elites tell them to do.
I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
Yes I agree , for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The more extreme the action is the more extreme the reaction.
I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
Yes I agree , for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The more extreme the action is the more extreme the reaction.
What "more extreme action" justifies the massacre of millions of people?
Evengelicals in the U.S. are one misinterpretation of a line in the Bible away from strapping bombs onto themselves and turning to terror to get their way..... and if you were talking to German Evangelicals, that would apply. I'm an America, and never was in Germany, or a Nazi... so it doesn't apply to me... and I don't care what someone who can't tell the difference, thinks about it. Bye bye.
I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
Yes I agree , for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The more extreme the action is the more extreme the reaction.
What "more extreme action" justifies the massacre of millions of people?
I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
Yes I agree , for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The more extreme the action is the more extreme the reaction.
What "more extreme action" justifies the massacre of millions of people?
Ask Stalin and those fleas that spread typhus, then we have the issue of food. Then we also have to place some blame on the Polish themselves who had their own pogroms towards the Jews. I'd like to give you a simple answer, but the no. 6 mil was used in Russia right after WW1 as well. The Nazi's were not a bunch of butchers, unless one wants to classify the others who fought in WWII the same.
My signature line came from an Israel news paper.
Not technically true, as churches were forced and coerced, and they had to have the approval of the Nazi party to function.I get so upset whenever I hear Christians cutting down the Nazi's, evans are real good at this. You must remember most of those Nazis were Evangelical Christians. Don't for a minute think Hitler turned them into NAZI's. Anti Semitism didn't begin with Hitler.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
The German Churches and the Nazi State
I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
I am not saying this is at all representative of any religion but it is something to be watchful of.Right from the Holocaust site: (who am I to argue with them)Also...most of these weren't Evangelicals.
PROTESTANT CHURCHES IN NAZI GERMANY
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.
They were also persuaded by the statement on “positive Christianity” in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, which read:
"We demand the freedom of all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not jeopardize the state's existence or conflict with the manners and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The Party as such upholds the point of view of a positive Christianity without tying itself confessionally to any one confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit at home and abroad and is convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only be achieved from within on the basis of the common good before individual good."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005206
(This is the Deutsche Christen flag.)
Yes I agree , for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The more extreme the action is the more extreme the reaction.
What "more extreme action" justifies the massacre of millions of people?
Ask Stalin and those fleas that spread typhus, then we have the issue of food. Then we also have to place some blame on the Polish themselves who had their own pogroms towards the Jews. I'd like to give you a simple answer, but the no. 6 mil was used in Russia right after WW1 as well. The Nazi's were not a bunch of butchers, unless one wants to classify the others who fought in WWII the same.
My signature line came from an Israel news paper.
Well, Martin Luther was a raging anti-semite.Germany is and always has been a spiritually bankrupt nation. Germans are minions of Satan and we should all take notice of the actions of anyone who has German ancestry.
You mean like Albert Schweitzer, Albert Einstein, Martin Luther, J.S. Bach, Oskar Schindler, etc?
Why is the term "evangelical" being used to describe all protestants in Germany-----I am not objecting----I just don't know that usage. It does not make sense to me at all that a statement by the Nazi party in
reference to its supposed policy on protestant churches-----reflects the policies, in general, of Protestant churches in Germany. Penelope's hero, adolf ---said LOTS of things
.... and if you were talking to German Evangelicals, that would apply. I'm an America, and never was in Germany, or a Nazi... so it doesn't apply to me... and I don't care what someone who can't tell the difference, thinks about it. Bye bye.
Of course not,
Anti-semitism did not begin with Hitler but Hitler took it to a new level.
No really one can read William II words and also Karl Lueger use the Jewish Question before Hitler even knew a Jew . Also never forget the Jews declared war on German in 1933 at its lowest point. Now Hilter we know spent much time in Vienna of where he seen first hand the roles of the Jews here. I must say when one asks why Germany felt the way it did , one must also look at the actions of the Jews. Obviously Hitler was not alone in his feelings.
We see the same thing here in the states.
Penelope, keep this thing in mind that I always tell business owners and my children regarding staff and friends: "desperate people do desperate things". In business and friendship there are other applications to that, but in reference to the Nazis, we have to keep in mind that Germany was a devastated nation. The Treaty of Versailles completely crushed the German economy and German patriotism. The people were totally desperate and in that desperation they latched on to an extreme philosophy. Certainly, there was anti-Semitism in Germany to some degree, just as there is all over the world. But they were a convenient and desperate scapegoat for Hitler and the Nazi party to point to. Hitler was not going to gain power by saying 'we have only ourselves to blame'.
When I hear people talk about the Nazis like they are pieces of scum, I think people need to think before the speak. Your right, Hitler was not fed anti Semitism from his mothers milk like PM Shamir said the Polish were, for every action there is a reaction and anti Semitism didn't just pop out of nowhere. Its mainly Evans who mock the German people which I find a horrible thing to do, as those same Evans stand behind the US army when it bombed Iraq and is standing behind Israel when its bombing the Pals like it did last year. As a person who grew up with Christians values, I can see how the moral fiber of the US is sinking and that its mainly the Jewish to thank for that.
The word can be used to mean lots of things. Most people who use it don't even know what they are talking about.
Evengelicals in the U.S. are one misinterpretation of a line in the Bible away from strapping bombs onto themselves and turning to terror to get their way..... and if you were talking to German Evangelicals, that would apply. I'm an America, and never was in Germany, or a Nazi... so it doesn't apply to me... and I don't care what someone who can't tell the difference, thinks about it. Bye bye.
Germany is and always has been a spiritually bankrupt nation. Germans are minions of Satan and we should all take notice of the actions of anyone who has German ancestry.
