Examples of why you can't tust Liberals with "reasonable" gun control

[Conservative65]

He's talking about something the 2nd Amendment gives me the right to have taken away. My challenge to him, if you read it, was that if he thought so, he should personally put it into effect.

Anyone that wants to ban guns, like he does, has already shown he's crazy. I need do nothing else.

One thing I can guarantee you son is if I said I didn't think you should have something you have a right to own, I'd be the one to take it from you. I wouldn't be a puss like him and say it should happen then expect someone else to do it for me.

I follow the rules with gun ownership. What he is proposing is that the rules I've followed be made more stringent to fulfill some concept that by banning them, it will prevent those who would misuse them from doing so.

And he believes that assault rifles are a problem. I am sure he is supporting candidates that promise to fight to ban them. He isn't going to personally go around and collect them all up. He sounds like he is wanting to bring back the ban that Clinton put into effect.

Just like I worked to have the 10 Commandments monument removed from the Alabama Supreme Courthouse lobby. I am not a pussy because I didn't drive a forklift over myself. I worked within the system.


But my point is this nonsense of calling people pussys because they don't agree with you but are not going door to door to collect guns is bullshit. First off, be as active and work to protect our rights. And second, the name calling does the cause more harm than it does your image good. Internet badassery is always comical, son.

Read his posts. He is for banning ALL guns not just assault rifles.

If you actually did something to get something banned, while I may disagree with you about banning them, you actually DID something. He is saying it should be done and simply voting for those that would do it isn't doing anything. That is passive.

It isn't that he disagrees with me, it's that he says something should be done and isn't personally willing to do anything but run his mouth.

That you consider me an internet badass is comical BOY.

Junior, you are the one who called him a pussy because he wants laws passed to ban assault weapons and would leave the collection of the guns up to the authorities.

That is ridiculous. And yes, you calling someone a pussy for not going door to door to collect guns is being an internet badass.

And voting for someone is actively working towards a goal. If enough people do it, laws get passed like Clinton's assault weapons ban. It accomplished nothing. But it was passed.

He wants laws passed to ban guns period. I called him a pussy because despite his claim that they should be, he isn't man enough to take action himself. That's a pussy.

Voting involves very little effort. If you think that's action, I highly doubt you did anything but run your damn mouth about the 10 Commandments in Alabama.

In this country we vote. This isn't some place where the strongest make all the laws. And even if somebody can't take something from you that doesn't mean you are right.

It's becoming a place where those who have no skin in the game get to decide things for those that actually do. The ones who say if you don't want a gay marriage, don't have one or if you don't want an abortion, don't have one are the same people who, if they don't like something, want it taken away. To them, I say if you don't want a gun, don't buy one.

If they say I shouldn't have it, they should be willing to take it.

 

[orogenicman]

Such as?

And many Americans today are likewise prepared to be a soldier in defense of the nation. The difference is that today our soldiers don't have to bring their own guns to the fight.

Such as? Really? You really think that people owning semiautomatic rifles with a pistol grip & magazine is the single biggest problem facing our nation?

I think that when, in 2012, for instance, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns, it is a huge problem. I think that when a 20 year old man walks into an elementary school and kills children with an assault weapon, and we see this kind of thing repeated over and over again all across the county, it is a huge problem. Ignore it or justify it all you want, but when you do, count yourself as part of the problem.

it isn't repeated all across the country...in fact, there hasn't been an increase in these shootings...and it would help a lot if we got rid of gun free killing zones for crazies....

Really?

Since 2006, there have been more than 200 mass killings in the United States. If there has been no increase, then what you are saying is that it has been horrendous all along, we just didn't realize it. You can't have it both ways.

USA TODAY BEHIND THE BLOODSHED THE UNTOLD STORY OF AMERICA S MASS KILLINGS

How many took place in locations where gun free zones prohibited someone from even having a gun there?

If you are suggesting that 'if only someone at the time had a gun to take the culprits out', I suggest to you that that is a fallacy, that the most likely outcome in that situation is that you have even more dead people to bury. This wild west, Wyatt Urp mentality needs to stop.

 

[Conservative65]

Really? He is talking about changing the laws, and then he is challenged to come and get the guns himself? And since he would not be in a position to be the person who enforces these new laws, you call him a pussy? Really?

And you wonder why people get pissed off at gun people? It is this "I won guns, so I am a badass and you are a pussy" mentality that a few keep spouting.

You want guns? Cool. Follow the rules and use them safely. Have a modicum of respect for the rest of the world, whether they show you any or not. That is what is needed. Not this "A gun is the best answer for everything"!

And I am a gun owner, shooter, and vehement defender of the 2nd Amendment. But jeez, lighten up with the bullshit. Make them look like the crazy ones.

I see that sort of thing all too often. I don't think it is going to ever change without new laws. which is yet another reason why I support stronger gun control measures.

Oh please. The fact that he called you a pussy is not a reason for stricter gun laws. He doesn't respect your political views? So what? That is a reason for stricter gun laws? Your side is just as guilty as his. Both are prone to name calling and bullshit.

You misunderstand my stand. It is this highly negative attitude that pervades the gun cult in this country that I find disturbing. When someone with a gun calls me a pussy, I tend to take their insults a bit more personally. If I do some name calling, you can be pretty sure I don't have a gun somewhere backing up my language.

It's people like you that supports banning guns in direct opposition to the Constitution that I have a problem with. If I challenge you to come and get what you say I shouldn't have, you can be damn sure I won't need a gun to keep you from getting it.

And you wonder why so many people want them banned.

I wonder why so many like you that want them banned aren't man enough to take it upon yourself to do what you say should be done.

 

[Conservative65]

He's talking about something the 2nd Amendment gives me the right to have taken away. My challenge to him, if you read it, was that if he thought so, he should personally put it into effect.

Anyone that wants to ban guns, like he does, has already shown he's crazy. I need do nothing else.

One thing I can guarantee you son is if I said I didn't think you should have something you have a right to own, I'd be the one to take it from you. I wouldn't be a puss like him and say it should happen then expect someone else to do it for me.

I follow the rules with gun ownership. What he is proposing is that the rules I've followed be made more stringent to fulfill some concept that by banning them, it will prevent those who would misuse them from doing so.

And he believes that assault rifles are a problem. I am sure he is supporting candidates that promise to fight to ban them. He isn't going to personally go around and collect them all up. He sounds like he is wanting to bring back the ban that Clinton put into effect.

Just like I worked to have the 10 Commandments monument removed from the Alabama Supreme Courthouse lobby. I am not a pussy because I didn't drive a forklift over myself. I worked within the system.


But my point is this nonsense of calling people pussys because they don't agree with you but are not going door to door to collect guns is bullshit. First off, be as active and work to protect our rights. And second, the name calling does the cause more harm than it does your image good. Internet badassery is always comical, son.

Read his posts. He is for banning ALL guns not just assault rifles.

If you actually did something to get something banned, while I may disagree with you about banning them, you actually DID something. He is saying it should be done and simply voting for those that would do it isn't doing anything. That is passive.

It isn't that he disagrees with me, it's that he says something should be done and isn't personally willing to do anything but run his mouth.

That you consider me an internet badass is comical BOY.

Junior, you are the one who called him a pussy because he wants laws passed to ban assault weapons and would leave the collection of the guns up to the authorities.

That is ridiculous. And yes, you calling someone a pussy for not going door to door to collect guns is being an internet badass.

And voting for someone is actively working towards a goal. If enough people do it, laws get passed like Clinton's assault weapons ban. It accomplished nothing. But it was passed.

He wants laws passed to ban guns period. I called him a pussy because despite his claim that they should be, he isn't man enough to take action himself. That's a pussy.

Voting involves very little effort. If you think that's action, I highly doubt you did anything but run your damn mouth about the 10 Commandments in Alabama.

There are 65 million gun owners in the US. I guess if he started now he could knock on every one of their doors in about 1,000 years.

What you doubt is not really relevant. I helped create and distribute petitions, got calling lists of senators and representatives out to people, and sent emails and letters to various news outlets to make sure the story didn't die.

Exactly what action do you suggest that he, as a law abiding citizen should take to further his goal of banning guns? You know, a method that is manly and not like a pussy.

Have him come knock on my door, someone he's directly told shouldn't have guns, and ask for it. That would be manly.

 

[WinterBorn]

And he believes that assault rifles are a problem. I am sure he is supporting candidates that promise to fight to ban them. He isn't going to personally go around and collect them all up. He sounds like he is wanting to bring back the ban that Clinton put into effect.

Just like I worked to have the 10 Commandments monument removed from the Alabama Supreme Courthouse lobby. I am not a pussy because I didn't drive a forklift over myself. I worked within the system.


But my point is this nonsense of calling people pussys because they don't agree with you but are not going door to door to collect guns is bullshit. First off, be as active and work to protect our rights. And second, the name calling does the cause more harm than it does your image good. Internet badassery is always comical, son.

Read his posts. He is for banning ALL guns not just assault rifles.

If you actually did something to get something banned, while I may disagree with you about banning them, you actually DID something. He is saying it should be done and simply voting for those that would do it isn't doing anything. That is passive.

It isn't that he disagrees with me, it's that he says something should be done and isn't personally willing to do anything but run his mouth.

That you consider me an internet badass is comical BOY.

Junior, you are the one who called him a pussy because he wants laws passed to ban assault weapons and would leave the collection of the guns up to the authorities.

That is ridiculous. And yes, you calling someone a pussy for not going door to door to collect guns is being an internet badass.

And voting for someone is actively working towards a goal. If enough people do it, laws get passed like Clinton's assault weapons ban. It accomplished nothing. But it was passed.

He wants laws passed to ban guns period. I called him a pussy because despite his claim that they should be, he isn't man enough to take action himself. That's a pussy.

Voting involves very little effort. If you think that's action, I highly doubt you did anything but run your damn mouth about the 10 Commandments in Alabama.

In this country we vote. This isn't some place where the strongest make all the laws. And even if somebody can't take something from you that doesn't mean you are right.

It's becoming a place where those who have no skin in the game get to decide things for those that actually do. The ones who say if you don't want a gay marriage, don't have one or if you don't want an abortion, don't have one are the same people who, if they don't like something, want it taken away. To them, I say if you don't want a gun, don't buy one.

If they say I shouldn't have it, they should be willing to take it.

That is absolutely ridiculous. So people who think heroin should be (or stay) illegal should go around and take it from the dealers and junkies?

If guns are banned, only the authorities will have them. Anyone not working for the police or military will be arrested for possessing them. So he should go around and try to take private property, with no authority to do so, and risk arrest?? All so he can satisfy some ridiculous notion of manliness?? lmao Too funny.

 

[orogenicman]

I see that sort of thing all too often. I don't think it is going to ever change without new laws. which is yet another reason why I support stronger gun control measures.

Oh please. The fact that he called you a pussy is not a reason for stricter gun laws. He doesn't respect your political views? So what? That is a reason for stricter gun laws? Your side is just as guilty as his. Both are prone to name calling and bullshit.

You misunderstand my stand. It is this highly negative attitude that pervades the gun cult in this country that I find disturbing. When someone with a gun calls me a pussy, I tend to take their insults a bit more personally. If I do some name calling, you can be pretty sure I don't have a gun somewhere backing up my language.

It's people like you that supports banning guns in direct opposition to the Constitution that I have a problem with. If I challenge you to come and get what you say I shouldn't have, you can be damn sure I won't need a gun to keep you from getting it.

And you wonder why so many people want them banned.

I wonder why so many like you that want them banned aren't man enough to take it upon yourself to do what you say should be done.

Dude, if guns ever get banned in this country, I can promise you that it won't be me coming for your guns. It will be the government. One way or another.

 

[WinterBorn]

And he believes that assault rifles are a problem. I am sure he is supporting candidates that promise to fight to ban them. He isn't going to personally go around and collect them all up. He sounds like he is wanting to bring back the ban that Clinton put into effect.

Just like I worked to have the 10 Commandments monument removed from the Alabama Supreme Courthouse lobby. I am not a pussy because I didn't drive a forklift over myself. I worked within the system.


But my point is this nonsense of calling people pussys because they don't agree with you but are not going door to door to collect guns is bullshit. First off, be as active and work to protect our rights. And second, the name calling does the cause more harm than it does your image good. Internet badassery is always comical, son.

Read his posts. He is for banning ALL guns not just assault rifles.

If you actually did something to get something banned, while I may disagree with you about banning them, you actually DID something. He is saying it should be done and simply voting for those that would do it isn't doing anything. That is passive.

It isn't that he disagrees with me, it's that he says something should be done and isn't personally willing to do anything but run his mouth.

That you consider me an internet badass is comical BOY.

Junior, you are the one who called him a pussy because he wants laws passed to ban assault weapons and would leave the collection of the guns up to the authorities.

That is ridiculous. And yes, you calling someone a pussy for not going door to door to collect guns is being an internet badass.

And voting for someone is actively working towards a goal. If enough people do it, laws get passed like Clinton's assault weapons ban. It accomplished nothing. But it was passed.

He wants laws passed to ban guns period. I called him a pussy because despite his claim that they should be, he isn't man enough to take action himself. That's a pussy.

Voting involves very little effort. If you think that's action, I highly doubt you did anything but run your damn mouth about the 10 Commandments in Alabama.

There are 65 million gun owners in the US. I guess if he started now he could knock on every one of their doors in about 1,000 years.

What you doubt is not really relevant. I helped create and distribute petitions, got calling lists of senators and representatives out to people, and sent emails and letters to various news outlets to make sure the story didn't die.

Exactly what action do you suggest that he, as a law abiding citizen should take to further his goal of banning guns? You know, a method that is manly and not like a pussy.

Have him come knock on my door, someone he's directly told shouldn't have guns, and ask for it. That would be manly.

No, that would be stupid. He wants the laws changed. I disagree with him on that. But it doesn't make him a pussy. It just makes him wrong and misguided.

 

[Brain357]

I see that sort of thing all too often. I don't think it is going to ever change without new laws. which is yet another reason why I support stronger gun control measures.

Oh please. The fact that he called you a pussy is not a reason for stricter gun laws. He doesn't respect your political views? So what? That is a reason for stricter gun laws? Your side is just as guilty as his. Both are prone to name calling and bullshit.

You misunderstand my stand. It is this highly negative attitude that pervades the gun cult in this country that I find disturbing. When someone with a gun calls me a pussy, I tend to take their insults a bit more personally. If I do some name calling, you can be pretty sure I don't have a gun somewhere backing up my language.

It's people like you that supports banning guns in direct opposition to the Constitution that I have a problem with. If I challenge you to come and get what you say I shouldn't have, you can be damn sure I won't need a gun to keep you from getting it.

And you wonder why so many people want them banned.

I wonder why so many like you that want them banned aren't man enough to take it upon yourself to do what you say should be done.

Do you know how message boards work? You are supposed to use your brain and discuss things. Trying to act tough on a message board just looks pathetic. Is it your keyboard or your gun that gives you such courage? Oh I guess I really don't care. I'm interested in hearing everyone's thoughts on the subject.

 

[WinterBorn]

And he believes that assault rifles are a problem. I am sure he is supporting candidates that promise to fight to ban them. He isn't going to personally go around and collect them all up. He sounds like he is wanting to bring back the ban that Clinton put into effect.

Just like I worked to have the 10 Commandments monument removed from the Alabama Supreme Courthouse lobby. I am not a pussy because I didn't drive a forklift over myself. I worked within the system.


But my point is this nonsense of calling people pussys because they don't agree with you but are not going door to door to collect guns is bullshit. First off, be as active and work to protect our rights. And second, the name calling does the cause more harm than it does your image good. Internet badassery is always comical, son.

Read his posts. He is for banning ALL guns not just assault rifles.

If you actually did something to get something banned, while I may disagree with you about banning them, you actually DID something. He is saying it should be done and simply voting for those that would do it isn't doing anything. That is passive.

It isn't that he disagrees with me, it's that he says something should be done and isn't personally willing to do anything but run his mouth.

That you consider me an internet badass is comical BOY.

Junior, you are the one who called him a pussy because he wants laws passed to ban assault weapons and would leave the collection of the guns up to the authorities.

That is ridiculous. And yes, you calling someone a pussy for not going door to door to collect guns is being an internet badass.

And voting for someone is actively working towards a goal. If enough people do it, laws get passed like Clinton's assault weapons ban. It accomplished nothing. But it was passed.

He wants laws passed to ban guns period. I called him a pussy because despite his claim that they should be, he isn't man enough to take action himself. That's a pussy.

Voting involves very little effort. If you think that's action, I highly doubt you did anything but run your damn mouth about the 10 Commandments in Alabama.

There are 65 million gun owners in the US. I guess if he started now he could knock on every one of their doors in about 1,000 years.

What you doubt is not really relevant. I helped create and distribute petitions, got calling lists of senators and representatives out to people, and sent emails and letters to various news outlets to make sure the story didn't die.

Exactly what action do you suggest that he, as a law abiding citizen should take to further his goal of banning guns? You know, a method that is manly and not like a pussy.

Have him come knock on my door, someone he's directly told shouldn't have guns, and ask for it. That would be manly.

Another example, I said earlier in this thread that we, the tax payers, should support mental healthcare if necessary. You likely disagree with me. Should I work to get laws passed that do what needs to be done? Or do I come knock on your door and ask you for the money?

 

[Conservative65]

Read his posts. He is for banning ALL guns not just assault rifles.

If you actually did something to get something banned, while I may disagree with you about banning them, you actually DID something. He is saying it should be done and simply voting for those that would do it isn't doing anything. That is passive.

It isn't that he disagrees with me, it's that he says something should be done and isn't personally willing to do anything but run his mouth.

That you consider me an internet badass is comical BOY.

Junior, you are the one who called him a pussy because he wants laws passed to ban assault weapons and would leave the collection of the guns up to the authorities.

That is ridiculous. And yes, you calling someone a pussy for not going door to door to collect guns is being an internet badass.

And voting for someone is actively working towards a goal. If enough people do it, laws get passed like Clinton's assault weapons ban. It accomplished nothing. But it was passed.

He wants laws passed to ban guns period. I called him a pussy because despite his claim that they should be, he isn't man enough to take action himself. That's a pussy.

Voting involves very little effort. If you think that's action, I highly doubt you did anything but run your damn mouth about the 10 Commandments in Alabama.

There are 65 million gun owners in the US. I guess if he started now he could knock on every one of their doors in about 1,000 years.

What you doubt is not really relevant. I helped create and distribute petitions, got calling lists of senators and representatives out to people, and sent emails and letters to various news outlets to make sure the story didn't die.

Exactly what action do you suggest that he, as a law abiding citizen should take to further his goal of banning guns? You know, a method that is manly and not like a pussy.

Have him come knock on my door, someone he's directly told shouldn't have guns, and ask for it. That would be manly.

Another example, I said earlier in this thread that we, the tax payers, should support mental healthcare if necessary. You likely disagree with me. Should I work to get laws passed that do what needs to be done? Or do I come knock on your door and ask you for the money?

If you think it should be provided to someone else, write a check. That's what you should do. If you can't do what you think should be done, you're the last one that should be demanding "we" as taxpayers do it. I doubt you would come to my door and ask for anything. If you think it NEEDS to be done, meet the need. Too damn many like you that won't do what you think needs to be done with your own money are the ones getting laws made to force others to do it your way.

 

[Wildman]

so far everyone is....,
Examples of why you can't tust Liberals with "reasonable" gun control
why don't everyone define what you consider "reasonable"..., then we can restart the debate, it's NOT about "gun control" in it's self, it's all about "reasonable"

OK ?

 

[Conservative65]

Oh please. The fact that he called you a pussy is not a reason for stricter gun laws. He doesn't respect your political views? So what? That is a reason for stricter gun laws? Your side is just as guilty as his. Both are prone to name calling and bullshit.

You misunderstand my stand. It is this highly negative attitude that pervades the gun cult in this country that I find disturbing. When someone with a gun calls me a pussy, I tend to take their insults a bit more personally. If I do some name calling, you can be pretty sure I don't have a gun somewhere backing up my language.

It's people like you that supports banning guns in direct opposition to the Constitution that I have a problem with. If I challenge you to come and get what you say I shouldn't have, you can be damn sure I won't need a gun to keep you from getting it.

And you wonder why so many people want them banned.

I wonder why so many like you that want them banned aren't man enough to take it upon yourself to do what you say should be done.

Dude, if guns ever get banned in this country, I can promise you that it won't be me coming for your guns. It will be the government. One way or another.

I know you won't. You're too damn much of a pussy to do it. Best believe if I said you shouldn't have something, I'd take it from you.

 

[EatMorChikin]

so far everyone is....,
Examples of why you can't tust Liberals with "reasonable" gun control
why don't everyone define what you consider "reasonable"..., then we can restart the debate, it's NOT about "gun control" in it's self, it's all about "reasonable"

OK ?

When it comes to most liberals, there is no such thing as reasonable. Because liberals make decisions on emotion. And most do not even know what they are talking about in regards to firearms. They want to ban the scary black rifles, and call them assault rifles. They are simply semi automatic rifles.

I could easily convert an AR-15 to have a 5 round fixed box instead of a magazine. And than I could place that and a Ruger mini 14 on a table and ask them which should be banned. We know what they would choose, but I could pop a large magazine on the mini 14. But the AR-15 is black and scary, so that is the bad man. The only real difference between the two is the looks. The same comparison could be performed for the Ruger mini 30 and an AK-47.

I simply can't trust people who are not at least someone educated on the subject. Minds get made up based only on what they hear. I didn't say all liberals, and for the most part true liberal democrats are patriotic and do own guns. The liberal progressives are the fucking scourge that want to fuck over everyone, and gun grab.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Some nut shoots 6 people and the lefties want a law banning magazines with more than 5 bullets. Some nut shoots 7 people and they want a ban on magazines with more than 6 bullets. Shoot 10 and the left responds with a ban of 10 bullet magazines. Always chasing the irrelevant circumstances of gun violence instead of addressing the real causes.

Tell us oh wise one, what are the real causes of gun violence in America?

People who have no regard for human life are the cause of gun violence (and every other kind). The same person that kills with a gun will kill with a knife, baseball bat, screwdriver, etc. Idiots like you, however, think it's the gun that does the killing.

So you have no idea that people like you are the real cause of gun violence in America. Paranoid racists who preach hate and fear like you, and others of every race, creed, ethnicity and social class.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Some nut shoots 6 people and the lefties want a law banning magazines with more than 5 bullets. Some nut shoots 7 people and they want a ban on magazines with more than 6 bullets. Shoot 10 and the left responds with a ban of 10 bullet magazines. Always chasing the irrelevant circumstances of gun violence instead of addressing the real causes.

Would you rather see a ban on gun sales altogether?

No, I'd rather see us abide by the Constitution.

The constitution did not specify what constitutes "arms". The "arms" of the day was a musket and a saber. If you want to own a musket or a saber, have at it.

Yes, at the time the US Constitution was written, the musket and the muzzle-loading rifle, were the arms of the day. But they were also the high tech weapons used by the military. The farmers and store owners had the same weapons as the top infantry soldiers.

So what you are saying is that everyone should have one of these:




Right.

I want me one of those!

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Some nut shoots 6 people and the lefties want a law banning magazines with more than 5 bullets. Some nut shoots 7 people and they want a ban on magazines with more than 6 bullets. Shoot 10 and the left responds with a ban of 10 bullet magazines. Always chasing the irrelevant circumstances of gun violence instead of addressing the real causes.

Would you rather see a ban on gun sales altogether?

The far left wants that, the side you support and voted for twice..

The rampant possession of firearms in this country has taken, and continues to take a terrible toll in lives. Now, unless you can come up with a viable solution that addresses that toll, I will continue to hold that we need to get rid of them altogether. But hey, that's just me.

you mean the 1.6 million times a year, on average that guns are used to stop violent criminal attack and save lives? Vs. 8-9,000 gun murders mainly committed by hang members in democrat controlled inner cities......


I hope you learned a little basic math in whatever government school that was controlled by the education wing of the democrat party that you attended......because 1.6 million is bigger than 8-9,000.....

Sooo....good people with guns are a positive not a negative....

Except the 1.6 million is made up. And Kleck admits that most defenders are involved in criminal behavior.

Speaking of making things up, right?

 

[orogenicman]

You misunderstand my stand. It is this highly negative attitude that pervades the gun cult in this country that I find disturbing. When someone with a gun calls me a pussy, I tend to take their insults a bit more personally. If I do some name calling, you can be pretty sure I don't have a gun somewhere backing up my language.

It's people like you that supports banning guns in direct opposition to the Constitution that I have a problem with. If I challenge you to come and get what you say I shouldn't have, you can be damn sure I won't need a gun to keep you from getting it.

And you wonder why so many people want them banned.

I wonder why so many like you that want them banned aren't man enough to take it upon yourself to do what you say should be done.

Dude, if guns ever get banned in this country, I can promise you that it won't be me coming for your guns. It will be the government. One way or another.

I know you won't. You're too damn much of a pussy to do it. Best believe if I said you shouldn't have something, I'd take it from you.

"see the abuse inherent in the system"
- Monty Python

 

[ninja007]

Some nut shoots 6 people and the lefties want a law banning magazines with more than 5 bullets. Some nut shoots 7 people and they want a ban on magazines with more than 6 bullets. Shoot 10 and the left responds with a ban of 10 bullet magazines. Always chasing the irrelevant circumstances of gun violence instead of addressing the real causes.

Would you rather see a ban on gun sales altogether?

The far left wants that, the side you support and voted for twice..

The rampant possession of firearms in this country has taken, and continues to take a terrible toll in lives. Now, unless you can come up with a viable solution that addresses that toll, I will continue to hold that we need to get rid of them altogether. But hey, that's just me.

the guns don't take people's lives. Its the criminals that use them.

 

[orogenicman]

Would you rather see a ban on gun sales altogether?

No, I'd rather see us abide by the Constitution.

The constitution did not specify what constitutes "arms". The "arms" of the day was a musket and a saber. If you want to own a musket or a saber, have at it.

Yes, at the time the US Constitution was written, the musket and the muzzle-loading rifle, were the arms of the day. But they were also the high tech weapons used by the military. The farmers and store owners had the same weapons as the top infantry soldiers.

So what you are saying is that everyone should have one of these:




Right.

I want me one of those!

Join the Navy.

 

[ninja007]

telling a conservative they can't have guns is like telling the libs no more abortion; back off libs. Guns are used for protection 98% of the time by gun owners. Abortion is used 100% of the time to kill a baby.