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That data base is only available to law enforcement. NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System) is the one available to FFL dealers. Keep digging.
He's making the point that IF there were a loophole that allowed kids to get alcohol without breaking the law (like buying it from a 3rd party for instance), then what good would the law be?
There is no loophole that lawfully allows prohibited persons: felons, drug users or adjudicated mental to buy a gun.
Of course there is. That's the whole point of expanding background checks to encompass all sales instead of just the sales made by federally licensed gun dealers.
He's making the point that IF there were a loophole that allowed kids to get alcohol without breaking the law (like buying it from a 3rd party for instance), then what good would the law be?
There is no loophole that lawfully allows prohibited persons: felons, drug users or adjudicated mental to buy a gun.
Of course there is. That's the whole point of expanding background checks to encompass all sales instead of just the sales made by federally licensed gun dealers.
The same market that sells drugs, etc.there can be no other explanation.
Given that, WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO GET THE GUNS?
Kids already get around the law.
For every 100,000 Americans under the age of 21, 1.4 people were killed in drunk driving fatalities in 2011. The rate of under 21 drunk driving fatalities per 100,000 population has declined 45% over the past decade. (Source: NHTSA/FARS and US Census Bureau, 2013)
Despite declines in the number of young people involved in drunk driving fatalities, on average, more than 3 people under the age of 21 die each day in alcohol-impaired driving crashes. (Source: NHTSA/FARS, 2013)
Underage Drunk Driving Fatalities | Century Council
I think you chose the wrong example wouldn't you agree?
So if we prohibited stores from asking for proof when people buy alcohol, you think those numbers would get better?
That's the most retarded thing I've heard on this board this year.
stores(ffls) have to ask for proof they do a background check already
except in the case of fast n furious
some of the purchasers of firearms are criminals which ATF waived through
to purchase the firearms
there can be no other explanation.
Given that, WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO GET THE GUNS?
There is zero focus on increasing penalty or accountability of the unlawful.
And.
Total focus on the law abiding.
Switch that around and specifically and clearly protect my rights as law abiding.
And you might get somewhere.
So I am clear on this; 90% of Americans wanted Gun Control but the Senate did not vote for it = Bad. Californians voted against Gay Marriage, but it was stuck down and that = Good.
Something about the majority didn't want interracial marriage blah blah blah, majority is wrong, except when their right...right?
Sheesh.
You didn't answer the question.
WHY DO YOU WANT THE CRIMINALS AND CRAZY PEOPLE TO GET GUNS?
What loophole to kids use to get alchol that is not illegal already and thus not a hole de loop ?
He's making the point that IF there were a loophole that allowed kids to get alcohol without breaking the law (like buying it from a 3rd party for instance), then what good would the law be?
they would still be breaking the law
it is illegal for underage persons to buy or have alcohol
just as it is illegal for felons to buy or have firearms
Bullshit.
Obama's people told FFL dealers to sell guns that they knew were in violation of the law.
Obama and his people are guilty of being responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people on both sides of the order.
So if we prohibited stores from asking for proof when people buy alcohol, you think those numbers would get better?
That's the most retarded thing I've heard on this board this year.
stores(ffls) have to ask for proof they do a background check already
So no loopholes exist? lol.
So if we prohibited stores from asking for proof when people buy alcohol, you think those numbers would get better?
That's the most retarded thing I've heard on this board this year.
stores(ffls) have to ask for proof they do a background check already
So no loopholes exist? lol.
Both of who are already illegal persons to own, buy, possess, sell to or reside in the same domicile as one by Federal law.
It's already illegal for people under 21 to buy alcohol. Would it make sense to have loopholes in that law that kids can use to get around it?
well it is good to know
that there is no under age consumption of alcohol happening
there can be no other explanation.
Given that, WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO GET THE GUNS?
There is zero focus on increasing penalty or accountability of the unlawful.
And.
Total focus on the law abiding.
Switch that around and specifically and clearly protect my rights as law abiding.
And you might get somewhere.
You didn't answer the question.
WHY DO YOU WANT THE CRIMINALS AND CRAZY PEOPLE TO GET GUNS?
there can be no other explanation.
Given that, WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO GET THE GUNS?
There is zero focus on increasing penalty or accountability of the unlawful.
And.
Total focus on the law abiding.
Switch that around and specifically and clearly protect my rights as law abiding.
And you might get somewhere.
You didn't answer the question.
WHY DO YOU WANT THE CRIMINALS AND CRAZY PEOPLE TO GET GUNS?
It's already illegal for people under 21 to buy alcohol. Would it make sense to have loopholes in that law that kids can use to get around it?
well it is good to know
that there is no under age consumption of alcohol happening
Every law gets broken. That is not an argument for not having any laws,
except maybe if a cartoon character like you is making the argument.
Why have laws against child molesting if people are going to molest children anyway?
Are you for child molesting?
exactly
no firearms dealers (stores) can sell a firearm
without doing a background check
and filling out the proper paperwork
the only exemption to that was
operation fast n furious
when ATF stepped in and told certain dealers
to allow the sales to go through
which resulted in thousands of firearms
to fall into criminal hands
to date
at least 2 Americans
and over three hundred Mexican citizens
are dead because of this program
It's already illegal for people under 21 to buy alcohol. Would it make sense to have loopholes in that law that kids can use to get around it?
Kids already get around the law.
For every 100,000 Americans under the age of 21, 1.4 people were killed in drunk driving fatalities in 2011. The rate of under 21 drunk driving fatalities per 100,000 population has declined 45% over the past decade. (Source: NHTSA/FARS and US Census Bureau, 2013)
Despite declines in the number of young people involved in drunk driving fatalities, on average, more than 3 people under the age of 21 die each day in alcohol-impaired driving crashes. (Source: NHTSA/FARS, 2013)
Underage Drunk Driving Fatalities | Century Council
I think you chose the wrong example wouldn't you agree?
So if we prohibited stores from asking for proof when people buy alcohol, you think those numbers would get better?
That's the most retarded thing I've heard on this board this year.
stores(ffls) have to ask for proof they do a background check already
So no loopholes exist? lol.
No loophole exists.
