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If you want to dispute the FACT that the wealthy get huge tax cuts in the Romney/Ryan budget plans,
just say so, in a mature manner.
Otherwise, stay quiet.
If you want to dispute the FACT that the wealthy get huge tax cuts in the Romney/Ryan budget plans,
just say so, in a mature manner.
Otherwise, stay quiet.
Sure: I want to dispute your contention the wealty get huge tax cuts in the Romney/Ryan budget plans.
Outside of Huffpo and sources as dubiously objective Barney Frank and Barak Obama, I cannot find anything (including the Ryan-Romney budget) that defines what new taxes "the wealthy" will pay.
By the way, speaking of good ol' Barack....when was the last time he had a budget?
Yup, 1 of 38 alternative projects went into bankruptcy. Subsidize Big Oil, Big Pharma, and Big Health. What tools of greedy rich/corps. Thanks for the Depression, fools. See sig pp3...Pubs are a proven disaster, and you proven morons.
Are you so phenomenally stupid that you fail to recognize the the liberal pols hand out just as much money, if not more, to those groups you list? Or are you intentionally obtuse, if so, what purpose would willful ignorance serve?
Wrong, dupe. Pubs have stopped the cuts so far- but it's THEIR policy. And when China doesn't dominate new industry, you can thank Obama.
This is the TRIUMPH of Welfare State and intelligent PLANNING. Dupes wouldn't understand. Pubs would have had a full blown depression.
If you want to dispute the FACT that the wealthy get huge tax cuts in the Romney/Ryan budget plans,
just say so, in a mature manner.
Otherwise, stay quiet.
Sure: I want to dispute your contention the wealty get huge tax cuts in the Romney/Ryan budget plans.
Outside of Huffpo and sources as dubiously objective Barney Frank and Barak Obama, I cannot find anything (including the Ryan-Romney budget) that defines what new taxes "the wealthy" will pay.
By the way, speaking of good ol' Barack....when was the last time he had a budget?
Are you so phenomenally stupid that you fail to recognize the the liberal pols hand out just as much money, if not more, to those groups you list? Or are you intentionally obtuse, if so, what purpose would willful ignorance serve?
Wrong, dupe. Pubs have stopped the cuts so far- but it's THEIR policy. And when China doesn't dominate new industry, you can thank Obama.
This is the TRIUMPH of Welfare State and intelligent PLANNING. Dupes wouldn't understand. Pubs would have had a full blown depression.
Hey, 'tard! China already dominates many industries. I see every day when the planes come through, packed to the gunwales with goods and when they go back, often carrying only dunnage. Go try and buy much of anything "Made in America", especially for a price most mortals can afford.
But, really, the trade inequity should be discussed on its very own thread...
If you want to dispute the FACT that the wealthy get huge tax cuts in the Romney/Ryan budget plans,
just say so, in a mature manner.
Otherwise, stay quiet.
Sure: I want to dispute your contention the wealty get huge tax cuts in the Romney/Ryan budget plans.
Outside of Huffpo and sources as dubiously objective Barney Frank and Barak Obama, I cannot find anything (including the Ryan-Romney budget) that defines what new taxes "the wealthy" will pay.
By the way, speaking of good ol' Barack....when was the last time he had a budget?
It is the oldest lesson in the human experience. If you teach someone to do something for themselves then you engender self-reliance. If you give them everything that they need, you breed reliance and dependency. The left only has to look to the American Indians and the reservations to see what their entitlement mind set brings. But no, let's continue to 'give' and hope for a different outcome.
The south side of Chicago is a war zone. Hundreds of millions of dollars has done nothing to stem the tide of poverty, out-of-wedlock births and crime. Yet, we hear the same things today we have heard since LBJ... We must provide for those who do not have. What we must do is to provide a means to work your way out of the cycle of poverty... if you do not take the way out, then you're on your own.
Another EXCELLENT thread by Political Chic!
Of course, liberals don't want people to become independent or they won't need liberal politicians anymore. When each person gets $20,610, or $61,830 for a family of three, why would they take a job like the rest of us when it would mean a cut? I don't know if those figures even include the free medical through Medicaid, free cell phones or other giveaway programs. The more children, the more benefits.
Those who work at low paying jobs still make out well and have no incentive to find a higher paying job. If you look at what people are given, on top of their wages, you realize that many are better off than the tax payers who get soaked to pay for their benefits. When they get help with rent, food, schooling, utilities and Medicaid, they end up with more disposable income than most since their paychecks are free and clear because their bills are paid by tax payers. Of course, they are more comfortable on the doles and the liberals need it that way.
A person earning $50,000 or more won't qualify for aid and yet have to pay all their bills, which doesn't leave a lot of disposable income.
I just don't think we should keep increasing aid to the point where they are better off on the doles than the rest of us who make it on our own. We should help long enough for people to get on their feet, but as it is, they keep having more kids to increase benefits rather than try to elevate themselves. The government keeps adding more to the pot, as if they're worried some will leave the liberal plantation. We have 4th and 5th generations of welfare recipients who know how to work the system because they learned from their parents and the more government gives away, the more people will do what they have to in order to qualify.
I couldn't agree more. Accepting public assistance should impart a deep feeling of shame and personal failure. The kind of shame that encourages the recipients to resolve to see that they improve their situation and never, ever fall so low as to need the accept coerced charity again.
Of course, liberals don't want people to become independent or they won't need liberal politicians anymore. When each person gets $20,610, or $61,830 for a family of three, why would they take a job like the rest of us when it would mean a cut? I don't know if those figures even include the free medical through Medicaid, free cell phones or other giveaway programs. The more children, the more benefits.
Those who work at low paying jobs still make out well and have no incentive to find a higher paying job. If you look at what people are given, on top of their wages, you realize that many are better off than the tax payers who get soaked to pay for their benefits. When they get help with rent, food, schooling, utilities and Medicaid, they end up with more disposable income than most since their paychecks are free and clear because their bills are paid by tax payers. Of course, they are more comfortable on the doles and the liberals need it that way.
A person earning $50,000 or more won't qualify for aid and yet have to pay all their bills, which doesn't leave a lot of disposable income.
I just don't think we should keep increasing aid to the point where they are better off on the doles than the rest of us who make it on our own. We should help long enough for people to get on their feet, but as it is, they keep having more kids to increase benefits rather than try to elevate themselves. The government keeps adding more to the pot, as if they're worried some will leave the liberal plantation. We have 4th and 5th generations of welfare recipients who know how to work the system because they learned from their parents and the more government gives away, the more people will do what they have to in order to qualify.
I couldn't agree more. Accepting public assistance should impart a deep feeling of shame and personal failure. The kind of shame that encourages the recipients to resolve to see that they improve their situation and never, ever fall so low as to need the accept coerced charity again.
So what's your plan? End the social safety net so we can have poverty like Africa, or India, or a few other places around the world?
Where is poverty disappearing because the government refuses to help anyone?
ROTFL i see so according to you giving millionaires 6trillion in tax cuts does not equal giving them tax cuts.If you want to dispute the FACT that the wealthy get huge tax cuts in the Romney/Ryan budget plans,
just say so, in a mature manner.
Otherwise, stay quiet.
Sure: I want to dispute your contention the wealty get huge tax cuts in the Romney/Ryan budget plans.
Outside of Huffpo and sources as dubiously objective Barney Frank and Barak Obama, I cannot find anything (including the Ryan-Romney budget) that defines what new taxes "the wealthy" will pay.
By the way, speaking of good ol' Barack....when was the last time he had a budget?
That's a lie. The Depression started when Americans realized an Alinsky model, God-damn-America religious zealot with a cop-killing Weatherman promoter and his wife for cohorts.Thanks for the Depression and the the stupidest wars ever, and 9/11 for that matter, incompetent, greedy Pubs and silly dupes. AND screwing up the recovery. Only brainwashed morons can't see the truth.
Great job making college and training as expensive and difficult as possible, producing the worst upward mobility and rich poor gap EVER. Pub dupes!! Absolute idiocy...
That's a lie. The Depression started when Americans realized an Alinsky model, God-damn-America religious zealot with a cop-killing Weatherman promoter and his wife for cohorts.Thanks for the Depression and the the stupidest wars ever, and 9/11 for that matter, incompetent, greedy Pubs and silly dupes. AND screwing up the recovery. Only brainwashed morons can't see the truth.
Great job making college and training as expensive and difficult as possible, producing the worst upward mobility and rich poor gap EVER. Pub dupes!! Absolute idiocy...
It worsened when Obama went to Europe on a tirade to tell the rest of the world what sewer rats Americans are.
That's why the economy can't recover and people will remain jobless while Obumble is in office. He surrounds himself with enlarge-the-government types, and we can't afford another four years of them giving freebie 100% guaranteed gummint loans to relatives and buddy pals, and that's that.
It really sucks that John Boehner doesn't just lay over and play dead while Obama and his freewheeling cabinet spenders play the American taxpayers for all they're worth on crazy money for people whose only work for it is making scare-the-elderly phone calls for Democrats as payback.Budget was out when it was due this year- Non starter AGAIN with do nothing no compromise "un-American" (TIME) GOP...
But thanks for the mindless <Freudian Stage I ad hominem omitted>...
No, creeps who send someone with dry eye syndrome to a flash attack website as a method of delivering a hidden ad hominem attack are killing America.Trickle down economics has failed. The corporate welfare monopolistic corporatocracy we live in is killing America.
No, biggie government uber alles is killing America. It's gotta go.Trickle down economics has failed. The corporate welfare monopolistic corporatocracy we live in is killing America.
No, creeps who send someone with dry eye syndrome to a flash attack website as a method of delivering a hidden ad hominem attack are killing America.Trickle down economics has failed. The corporate welfare monopolistic corporatocracy we live in is killing America.
No, biggie government uber alles is killing America. It's gotta go.Trickle down economics has failed. The corporate welfare monopolistic corporatocracy we live in is killing America.
