Faither/Daughter prosecuted for having sex

[Asclepias]

My vote would be yes.
Reasoning is I believe, as you do, that in order for a young adult to accept sex from a parent - there was some serious issues going on in his/her childhood for this to have happened.
I also believe that even though she is of a consenting age, he is still taking advantage of her because of his position in her life.

I agree. Now comes the hard part. Do we stop at just incestuous relationships? How about mentally abusive ones that mirror the same dynamic minus the parental aspect?

Can you elaborate?

Using the young lady in question. What if she has been molested by her father and she went out and married some predator of the same age that used the fact she was mentally screwed up to get this accomplished?

 

[Howey]

News & Star | News | Cumbrian father and daughter admit incest

IF you don't support what they did, you are a hateful, intolerant, bigot, right? DO gays go to jail for having sex?

It wasn't too long ago in this country that gays were in fact sent to jail for having sex, closetcasenovasteve.

Or beat to death.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Using the young lady in question. What if she has been molested by her father and she went out and married some predator of the same age that used the fact she was mentally screwed up to get this accomplished?

No different than a young boy who was molested, then went out and contracted aids. THIS happens all the time.

I do believe that most, if not all homosexuality is due to psychological circumstances. Molestation and abuse in boys.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I agree. Now comes the hard part. Do we stop at just incestuous relationships? How about mentally abusive ones that mirror the same dynamic minus the parental aspect?

Can you elaborate?

Using the young lady in question. What if she has been molested by her father and she went out and married some predator of the same age that used the fact she was mentally screwed up to get this accomplished?

Not the same. Tragic indeed, but not the same. There would be no way to prove that is why he chose to be in the relationship.
What 50 year old man or woman wouldn't want sex with a 25 year old as an example? Anyone who says otherwise is a liar. (Assuming they are both unmarried)

 

[Uncensored2008]

It wasn't too long ago in this country that gays were in fact sent to jail for having sex, closetcasenovasteve.

Or beat to death.

Those who murdered Matthew Shepard, they were rewarded, right?

 

[Howey]

I see now. You think acceptance of the fact that gay people exist caused incest.

Asslips, you are a racist. Racism rubs me the wrong way. You irritate me because you are a racist.

That said, you are not a stupid man, ergo you know the above is utter bullshit. A straw man argument that has nothing to do with my statement.

The societal push to change our culture and declare homosexuality a treasured form of behavior is based on exactly the same justifications that support incest.

News flash. Incest has been around just as long as being gay. They are entirely unrelated. Incest usually has a victim and is not caused by gay people being present.

Two consenting adults is the foundation that the anti-culture has used for decades. Explain why that isn't applicable here?

Seems to me like two consenting adults is the foundation of marriage. Thanks for making the argument in favor of gay marriage.

 

[Asclepias]

Using the young lady in question. What if she has been molested by her father and she went out and married some predator of the same age that used the fact she was mentally screwed up to get this accomplished?

No different than a young boy who was molested, then went out and contracted aids. THIS happens all the time.

I do believe that most, if not all homosexuality is due to psychological circumstances. Molestation and abuse in boys.

Correct its not any different from a boy being molested then being abused as a consenting adult. Problem with your theory is that almost every gay person I know has told me they knew they were gay and had not been abused.

 

[Asclepias]

Can you elaborate?

Using the young lady in question. What if she has been molested by her father and she went out and married some predator of the same age that used the fact she was mentally screwed up to get this accomplished?

Not the same. Tragic indeed, but not the same. There would be no way to prove that is why he chose to be in the relationship.
What 50 year old man or woman wouldn't want sex with a 25 year old as an example? Anyone who says otherwise is a liar. (Assuming they are both unmarried)

LOL! I look at it like this. While it would be great to fantasize about it, really what could you do for the younger person except provide a parent figure? Its unfair in my estimation. You are robbing them of living life and growing with someone close to their age and mental position in life. However that is just my own opinion but one of the reasons I think this father is a selfish prick.

 

[Luissa]

Using the young lady in question. What if she has been molested by her father and she went out and married some predator of the same age that used the fact she was mentally screwed up to get this accomplished?

No different than a young boy who was molested, then went out and contracted aids. THIS happens all the time.



I do believe that most, if not all homosexuality is due to psychological circumstances. Molestation and abuse in boys.

I have many gay friends, 90% were never molested. This is why you are called a homophobe. Molestation doesn't cause you to be gay, and their is no reliable source to back you up. KG tried once, and her source was easily debunked.


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[Luissa]

Using the young lady in question. What if she has been molested by her father and she went out and married some predator of the same age that used the fact she was mentally screwed up to get this accomplished?

No different than a young boy who was molested, then went out and contracted aids. THIS happens all the time.



I do believe that most, if not all homosexuality is due to psychological circumstances. Molestation and abuse in boys.

Correct its not any different from a boy being molested then being abused as a consenting adult. Problem with your theory is that almost every gay person I know has told me they were knew they were gay and had not been abused.

Yep!
Problem is he never bothers to talk to gay people.


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[Uncensored2008]

Correct its not any different from a boy being molested then being abused as a consenting adult. Problem with your theory is that almost every gay person I know has told me they knew they were gay and had not been abused.

The interesting thing is to ask them how old they were when they first had sex.

Bet 7 or 8 is the answer you get most.

 

[High_Gravity]

Correct its not any different from a boy being molested then being abused as a consenting adult. Problem with your theory is that almost every gay person I know has told me they knew they were gay and had not been abused.

The interesting thing is to ask them how old they were when they first had sex.

Bet 7 or 8 is the answer you get most.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Using the young lady in question. What if she has been molested by her father and she went out and married some predator of the same age that used the fact she was mentally screwed up to get this accomplished?

Not the same. Tragic indeed, but not the same. There would be no way to prove that is why he chose to be in the relationship.
What 50 year old man or woman wouldn't want sex with a 25 year old as an example? Anyone who says otherwise is a liar. (Assuming they are both unmarried)

LOL! I look at it like this. While it would be great to fantasize about it, really what could you do for the younger person except provide a parent figure? Its unfair in my estimation. You are robbing them of living life and growing with someone close to their age and mental position in life. However that is just my own opinion but one of the reasons I think this father is a selfish prick.

You got a point there. At 49, I would probably pass out from exhaustion trying to keep up with her in the act!!
And I agree with you on the robbing them of a life.
Just my opinion, any 20 something girl involving herself with a 50 years old is either in it for the money - or she has daddy issues. Still seeking a father figure who wasn't there when she was a child.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Had a cousin, he died of AIDS some 20 years back. I remember that he swore he was never molested, but talked about having sex with his uncle (other side of the family) when he was 7. He didn't see it as molestation. I had another gay friend who talked about having sex at 7 or 8. He said it was just with boys his own age - but I still suspected an adult somewhere in the mix.

My final point is that Vili Fualaau not only swore he wasn't molested by Mary Kay Letourneau, but married her when she got out of prison.

I can't prove, but would bet that you will find very young sexual encounters in most male homosexuals.

 

[Againsheila]

I think thats the difficult part. Proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was not consensual. I agree with your theory wholeheartedly but we cannot apply it to the masses unless we know for a fact all such relationships are coerced and or the result of sexual abuse.

I'm agreeing with you on this. An adult female who grew up under normal parental circumstances generally won't choose her father as a partner.



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Nope. A daughter 98% of the time will not willingly start having sex with her father, or become willingly without abuse mentally and physically.


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So that leaves 2% who are willing.....hmmmm..

BTW, I call BS, where did you get your statistic?

 

[Papawx3]

I've seen this coming for a very long time. First you legalize homosexuality, then incest. Next thing you know, they'll legalize Pedophilia, and then Bestiality.
Is there no shame?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I've seen this coming for a very long time. First you legalize homosexuality, then incest. Next thing you know, they'll legalize Pedophilia, and then Bestiality.
Is there no shame?

I don't know about incest, but Pedophilia? Yes, I completely agree that there is already a growing underground of leniency to say the least, if not total permissiveness.
Look at today's porn. Jesus Christ...WTF is up with all of this fascination with skinny little pig tail girls? Really???
In my opinion it should be strictly prohibited for these agencies to produce films that are clearly meant to portray teen and even preteen sex with an older male.

 

[Asclepias]

Correct its not any different from a boy being molested then being abused as a consenting adult. Problem with your theory is that almost every gay person I know has told me they knew they were gay and had not been abused.

The interesting thing is to ask them how old they were when they first had sex.

Bet 7 or 8 is the answer you get most.

Only one guy I know said he was molested. The others were 16 and up.

 

[Luissa]

I'm agreeing with you on this. An adult female who grew up under normal parental circumstances generally won't choose her father as a partner.







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Nope. A daughter 98% of the time will not willingly start having sex with her father, or become willingly without abuse mentally and physically.





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So that leaves 2% who are willing.....hmmmm..



BTW, I call BS, where did you get your statistic?

Whoosh! That is the sound of my point going over your head.


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[Asclepias]

I've seen this coming for a very long time. First you legalize homosexuality, then incest. Next thing you know, they'll legalize Pedophilia, and then Bestiality.
Is there no shame?

Doubt that. I dont know too many people that would even consider it being ok to victimize a child or animal. The age of consent may change but thats about it.