Fake GOP scandals stick to the Clintons, real scandals slide off Teflon Trump

[edthecynic]

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

The GOP have blocked all attempts to remove the loophole that allows businesses to deduct "moving expenses" when relocating even when moving out of the country. The Dems want to limit the deduction to moving only within the US and the GOP say NO.

Obama offered this in 2012, but the GOP shot it down, of course:

1. Reward American Jobs, Eliminate Tax Incentives To Ship Jobs Overseas: Congress needs to attract and keep good jobs in the United States by passing legislation that gives companies a new 20 percent tax credit for the cost of moving their operations back to the U.S. and pay for it by eliminating tax incentives that allow companies to deduct the costs of moving their business abroad."

 

[edthecynic]

He liberated a country dumbass, to NAD Obama cut and ran and screwed it up. Making all those 1000's of soldiers that died. Died in vain.

That didn't want to be "liberated."
Obama saved 10s of thousands of AMERICAN lives by withdrawing from Bush's Folly preventing Bush from killing more Americans in vain.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

The GOP have blocked all attempts to remove the loophole that allows businesses to deduct "moving expenses" when relocating even when moving out of the country. The Dems want to limit the deduction to only within the US and the GOP say NO.

Obama offered this in 2012, but the GOP shot it down, of course:

1. Reward American Jobs, Eliminate Tax Incentives To Ship Jobs Overseas: Congress needs to attract and keep good jobs in the United States by passing legislation that gives companies a new 20 percent tax credit for the cost of moving their operations back to the U.S. and pay for it by eliminating tax incentives that allow companies to deduct the costs of moving their business abroad."

The GOP have blocked all attempts to remove the loophole that allows businesses to deduct "moving expenses"

Business expenses is not a loophole.

Congress needs to attract and keep good jobs in the United States by passing legislation that gives companies a new 20 percent tax credit for the cost of moving their operations back to the U.S.

If he really wanted to get businesses to move back (and stay here), he could cut the corporate rate to 20%.
15% would be better.

 

[edthecynic]

When you look at GOP accomplishments, you get things like:

Stopped millions from health care
Invaded Iraq
Government shut down
Tax cuts for billionaires
Helped move millions of jobs to China
Spent trillions on Iraq
Cut food stamps for poor children

What else is there? Let Bin Laden go?

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country. To remedy this, Senate Democrats proposed the Bring Jobs Home Act in 2012 and again in 2014. The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

GOP, U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Beat Back Bill To Combat Outsourcing

Honestly, I don't understand your kind. During all the Bush years and the years under Obama, there have been news stories about the US Chamber of Commerce and how they give to Democrats one tenth of what they give to Republicans.

Then there are all the stories about how they give to Republicans. All the stories about how the GOP blocks any bill that would work to keep jobs here.

‘US’ Chamber Of Commerce Hosts Seminars With Chinese Gov Officials To Teach American Firms How To Outsource

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/uschamberofoutsourcing.pdf

If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up? Don't you want to know the facts? How can you make any reasonable replies when you don't even know what's going on?

I don't get this urge to remain stupid. Perhaps you could explain it.

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

That's awful. But That doesn't show that was a "GOP accomplishment".

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country.

Democrats think a lot of imaginary things are unfair.

The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

Thanks for the link. I liked this part.

"When we asked Democratic groups for evidence for their claims, they pointed us to Republican votes on a failed tax reform bill -- a bill that experts told us would not have affected corporations’ behavior."

It's nice when a liberal disproves his own claim.


If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up?

I do, but the easiest way to disprove a liberal claim, is to ask the claimant to prove it.

Thanks again!

As you pointed out the bill to bring back American jobs failed both times because of GOP opposition, but you left out the reason it failed. The GOP bitched that giving companies a tax break for the expense of moving back to the US would cost the government revenue, but the GOP had no problem with with the tax deduction for moving jobs out of the US costing the government revenue.

That's right, the GOP "logic" is you can't give a tax break to business for moving jobs back to the US because it costs the government revenue, but you CAN give a tax break to businesses that costs the government revenue if they outsource American jobs!!!

 

[edthecynic]

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

The GOP have blocked all attempts to remove the loophole that allows businesses to deduct "moving expenses" when relocating even when moving out of the country. The Dems want to limit the deduction to only within the US and the GOP say NO.

Obama offered this in 2012, but the GOP shot it down, of course:

1. Reward American Jobs, Eliminate Tax Incentives To Ship Jobs Overseas: Congress needs to attract and keep good jobs in the United States by passing legislation that gives companies a new 20 percent tax credit for the cost of moving their operations back to the U.S. and pay for it by eliminating tax incentives that allow companies to deduct the costs of moving their business abroad."

The GOP have blocked all attempts to remove the loophole that allows businesses to deduct "moving expenses"

Business expenses is not a loophole.

Congress needs to attract and keep good jobs in the United States by passing legislation that gives companies a new 20 percent tax credit for the cost of moving their operations back to the U.S.

If he really wanted to get businesses to move back (and stay here), he could cut the corporate rate to 20%.
15% would be better.

But the reason the GOP gave for blocking the tax credit to businesses for bringing back American jobs was because it would cost the government revenue. But you say it is OK to cut the corporate tax rate which will ALSO cut government revenue!!!!!

From a link YOU provided:

Some Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country. To remedy this, Senate Democrats proposed the Bring Jobs Home Act in 2012 and again in 2014. The bill failed both times.

The Bring Jobs Home Act would have eliminated the standard deduction for moving expenses for businesses relocating overseas. It also would have given a 20 percent tax credit to companies who insource jobs.

(Democrats also proposed a similar bill, that also failed, in 2010.)

Republicans’ reasons for opposing the legislation, the policy would have lost revenue and added to the deficit, according to Congress’ Joint Committee on Taxation.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Trump is so crude:

Flat chested women can't be a 10.

Mexicans are rapists.

(asked about tax returns says) Mind your own business

Bankruptcies

His butler of years says the president should be hung in front of the White Mosque, not White House

Ban Muslims

Trump refuses to release tax returns.

Trump is one disgusting and nasty person.

Hillary and her entire family have been attacked by Republicans for 30 years. Republicans have spent millions of dollars of taxpayer money attacking this one family over decades.

On his TV show, early in the Clinton administration, Limbaugh put up a picture of Socks, the White House cat, and asked, 'Did you know there's a White House dog?' Then he put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton, who was 13 years old at the time and as far as I know had never done any harm to anyone.

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) reportedly told a "joke" about Chelsea Clinton in 1998, saying, "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

The general election hasn't even started yet. What happens when people really go looking for stuff on Trump?

Staggering History of Trump's Attacks on African-Americans: including DOJ suing him for Discrimination - The Ring of Fire Network

During O’Donnell’s tenure as president of the Trump Plaza Hotel, Trump told him that he hates “black guys counting my money!” He added that “the only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” To Trump, “laziness is a trait in blacks.” Several years later, Trump didn’t bother to deny it: “The stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

In 1989, Trump again stirred up race-centered controversy when he published a full-page ad in the New York Times, calling for the death penalty for five teenagers, all black or Hispanic, who had been accused of raping and beating a jogger in Central Park. According to Eugene Puryear of Justice First, Trump was “using vastly racist discourse about black thugs and criminals and being black animals and roaming the park to racialize this incident.” The five youths were convicted, but later acquitted after a sixth man confessed to the crime. Even after the acquittal, Trump was unrepentant. A recent message on Twitter asked: “What were they doing in the park, playing checkers?”

I'd mark funny; but your just too pathetic to be funny. If they had a pathetic or crying option, I'd mark it.

BTW, you're losing it. You used to be better at your propaganda OP's.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When you look at GOP accomplishments, you get things like:

Stopped millions from health care
Invaded Iraq
Government shut down
Tax cuts for billionaires
Helped move millions of jobs to China
Spent trillions on Iraq
Cut food stamps for poor children

What else is there? Let Bin Laden go?

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country. To remedy this, Senate Democrats proposed the Bring Jobs Home Act in 2012 and again in 2014. The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

GOP, U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Beat Back Bill To Combat Outsourcing

Honestly, I don't understand your kind. During all the Bush years and the years under Obama, there have been news stories about the US Chamber of Commerce and how they give to Democrats one tenth of what they give to Republicans.

Then there are all the stories about how they give to Republicans. All the stories about how the GOP blocks any bill that would work to keep jobs here.

‘US’ Chamber Of Commerce Hosts Seminars With Chinese Gov Officials To Teach American Firms How To Outsource

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/uschamberofoutsourcing.pdf

If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up? Don't you want to know the facts? How can you make any reasonable replies when you don't even know what's going on?

I don't get this urge to remain stupid. Perhaps you could explain it.

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

That's awful. But That doesn't show that was a "GOP accomplishment".

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country.

Democrats think a lot of imaginary things are unfair.

The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

Thanks for the link. I liked this part.

"When we asked Democratic groups for evidence for their claims, they pointed us to Republican votes on a failed tax reform bill -- a bill that experts told us would not have affected corporations’ behavior."

It's nice when a liberal disproves his own claim.


If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up?

I do, but the easiest way to disprove a liberal claim, is to ask the claimant to prove it.

Thanks again!

As you pointed out the bill to bring back American jobs failed both times because of GOP opposition, but you left out the reason it failed. The GOP bitched that giving companies a tax break for the expense of moving back to the US would cost the government revenue, but the GOP had no problem with with the tax deduction for moving jobs out of the US costing the government revenue.

That's right, the GOP "logic" is you can't give a tax break to business for moving jobs back to the US because it costs the government revenue, but you CAN give a tax break to businesses that costs the government revenue if they outsource American jobs!!!

There is no tax break or loophole that addresses outsourcing or insourcing jobs specifically. When Democrats say "tax breaks" in these ads, they are usually talking about standard business expense deductions. Companies can write off many business-related expenses as tax-deductible -- including relocation.

But this isn’t a special provision just for businesses that move outside of the United States. A business would get the same deductions for money spent moving from New York to California.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

The GOP have blocked all attempts to remove the loophole that allows businesses to deduct "moving expenses" when relocating even when moving out of the country. The Dems want to limit the deduction to only within the US and the GOP say NO.

Obama offered this in 2012, but the GOP shot it down, of course:

1. Reward American Jobs, Eliminate Tax Incentives To Ship Jobs Overseas: Congress needs to attract and keep good jobs in the United States by passing legislation that gives companies a new 20 percent tax credit for the cost of moving their operations back to the U.S. and pay for it by eliminating tax incentives that allow companies to deduct the costs of moving their business abroad."

The GOP have blocked all attempts to remove the loophole that allows businesses to deduct "moving expenses"

Business expenses is not a loophole.

Congress needs to attract and keep good jobs in the United States by passing legislation that gives companies a new 20 percent tax credit for the cost of moving their operations back to the U.S.

If he really wanted to get businesses to move back (and stay here), he could cut the corporate rate to 20%.
15% would be better.

But the reason the GOP gave for blocking the tax credit to businesses for bringing back American jobs was because it would cost the government revenue. But you say it is OK to cut the corporate tax rate which will ALSO cut government revenue!!!!!

From a link YOU provided:

Some Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country. To remedy this, Senate Democrats proposed the Bring Jobs Home Act in 2012 and again in 2014. The bill failed both times.

The Bring Jobs Home Act would have eliminated the standard deduction for moving expenses for businesses relocating overseas. It also would have given a 20 percent tax credit to companies who insource jobs.

(Democrats also proposed a similar bill, that also failed, in 2010.)

Republicans’ reasons for opposing the legislation, the policy would have lost revenue and added to the deficit, according to Congress’ Joint Committee on Taxation.

The Bring Jobs Home Act would have eliminated the standard deduction for moving expenses for businesses relocating overseas.

Eliminating standard deductions for costs associated with outsourcing would result in an average $14.2 million a year in revenue, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation estimates. That’s not much in the grand scheme of things.

 

[edthecynic]

When you look at GOP accomplishments, you get things like:

Stopped millions from health care
Invaded Iraq
Government shut down
Tax cuts for billionaires
Helped move millions of jobs to China
Spent trillions on Iraq
Cut food stamps for poor children

What else is there? Let Bin Laden go?

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country. To remedy this, Senate Democrats proposed the Bring Jobs Home Act in 2012 and again in 2014. The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

GOP, U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Beat Back Bill To Combat Outsourcing

Honestly, I don't understand your kind. During all the Bush years and the years under Obama, there have been news stories about the US Chamber of Commerce and how they give to Democrats one tenth of what they give to Republicans.

Then there are all the stories about how they give to Republicans. All the stories about how the GOP blocks any bill that would work to keep jobs here.

‘US’ Chamber Of Commerce Hosts Seminars With Chinese Gov Officials To Teach American Firms How To Outsource

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/uschamberofoutsourcing.pdf

If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up? Don't you want to know the facts? How can you make any reasonable replies when you don't even know what's going on?

I don't get this urge to remain stupid. Perhaps you could explain it.

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

That's awful. But That doesn't show that was a "GOP accomplishment".

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country.

Democrats think a lot of imaginary things are unfair.

The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

Thanks for the link. I liked this part.

"When we asked Democratic groups for evidence for their claims, they pointed us to Republican votes on a failed tax reform bill -- a bill that experts told us would not have affected corporations’ behavior."

It's nice when a liberal disproves his own claim.


If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up?

I do, but the easiest way to disprove a liberal claim, is to ask the claimant to prove it.

Thanks again!

As you pointed out the bill to bring back American jobs failed both times because of GOP opposition, but you left out the reason it failed. The GOP bitched that giving companies a tax break for the expense of moving back to the US would cost the government revenue, but the GOP had no problem with with the tax deduction for moving jobs out of the US costing the government revenue.

That's right, the GOP "logic" is you can't give a tax break to business for moving jobs back to the US because it costs the government revenue, but you CAN give a tax break to businesses that costs the government revenue if they outsource American jobs!!!

There is no tax break or loophole that addresses outsourcing or insourcing jobs specifically. When Democrats say "tax breaks" in these ads, they are usually talking about standard business expense deductions. Companies can write off many business-related expenses as tax-deductible -- including relocation.

But this isn’t a special provision just for businesses that move outside of the United States. A business would get the same deductions for money spent moving from New York to California.

Typical Right-wing diversion! The professional liars can't deny there is a tax deduction for the expense of moving jobs overseas, so they divert to a half-truth/whole-lie and deny it being a "specific" deduction, which never was claimed. The only time it was discussed "specifically" was about removing it "specifically" from the relocation deduction.

 

[edthecynic]

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

The GOP have blocked all attempts to remove the loophole that allows businesses to deduct "moving expenses" when relocating even when moving out of the country. The Dems want to limit the deduction to only within the US and the GOP say NO.

Obama offered this in 2012, but the GOP shot it down, of course:

1. Reward American Jobs, Eliminate Tax Incentives To Ship Jobs Overseas: Congress needs to attract and keep good jobs in the United States by passing legislation that gives companies a new 20 percent tax credit for the cost of moving their operations back to the U.S. and pay for it by eliminating tax incentives that allow companies to deduct the costs of moving their business abroad."

The GOP have blocked all attempts to remove the loophole that allows businesses to deduct "moving expenses"

Business expenses is not a loophole.

Congress needs to attract and keep good jobs in the United States by passing legislation that gives companies a new 20 percent tax credit for the cost of moving their operations back to the U.S.

If he really wanted to get businesses to move back (and stay here), he could cut the corporate rate to 20%.
15% would be better.

But the reason the GOP gave for blocking the tax credit to businesses for bringing back American jobs was because it would cost the government revenue. But you say it is OK to cut the corporate tax rate which will ALSO cut government revenue!!!!!

From a link YOU provided:

Some Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country. To remedy this, Senate Democrats proposed the Bring Jobs Home Act in 2012 and again in 2014. The bill failed both times.

The Bring Jobs Home Act would have eliminated the standard deduction for moving expenses for businesses relocating overseas. It also would have given a 20 percent tax credit to companies who insource jobs.

(Democrats also proposed a similar bill, that also failed, in 2010.)

Republicans’ reasons for opposing the legislation, the policy would have lost revenue and added to the deficit, according to Congress’ Joint Committee on Taxation.

The Bring Jobs Home Act would have eliminated the standard deduction for moving expenses for businesses relocating overseas.

Eliminating standard deductions for costs associated with outsourcing would result in an average $14.2 million a year in revenue, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation estimates. That’s not much in the grand scheme of things.

More half-truths/whole-lies.

And the revenue loss from the tax credit for bringing back jobs would have been $21.4 million per year or .007% of total business revenue, also not much in the grand scheme of things, but too enormous for the GOP.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country. To remedy this, Senate Democrats proposed the Bring Jobs Home Act in 2012 and again in 2014. The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

GOP, U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Beat Back Bill To Combat Outsourcing

Honestly, I don't understand your kind. During all the Bush years and the years under Obama, there have been news stories about the US Chamber of Commerce and how they give to Democrats one tenth of what they give to Republicans.

Then there are all the stories about how they give to Republicans. All the stories about how the GOP blocks any bill that would work to keep jobs here.

‘US’ Chamber Of Commerce Hosts Seminars With Chinese Gov Officials To Teach American Firms How To Outsource

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/uschamberofoutsourcing.pdf

If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up? Don't you want to know the facts? How can you make any reasonable replies when you don't even know what's going on?

I don't get this urge to remain stupid. Perhaps you could explain it.

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

That's awful. But That doesn't show that was a "GOP accomplishment".

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country.

Democrats think a lot of imaginary things are unfair.

The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

Thanks for the link. I liked this part.

"When we asked Democratic groups for evidence for their claims, they pointed us to Republican votes on a failed tax reform bill -- a bill that experts told us would not have affected corporations’ behavior."

It's nice when a liberal disproves his own claim.


If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up?

I do, but the easiest way to disprove a liberal claim, is to ask the claimant to prove it.

Thanks again!

As you pointed out the bill to bring back American jobs failed both times because of GOP opposition, but you left out the reason it failed. The GOP bitched that giving companies a tax break for the expense of moving back to the US would cost the government revenue, but the GOP had no problem with with the tax deduction for moving jobs out of the US costing the government revenue.

That's right, the GOP "logic" is you can't give a tax break to business for moving jobs back to the US because it costs the government revenue, but you CAN give a tax break to businesses that costs the government revenue if they outsource American jobs!!!

There is no tax break or loophole that addresses outsourcing or insourcing jobs specifically. When Democrats say "tax breaks" in these ads, they are usually talking about standard business expense deductions. Companies can write off many business-related expenses as tax-deductible -- including relocation.

But this isn’t a special provision just for businesses that move outside of the United States. A business would get the same deductions for money spent moving from New York to California.

Typical Right-wing diversion! The professional liars can't deny there is a tax deduction for the expense of moving jobs overseas, so they divert to a half-truth/whole-lie and deny it being a "specific" deduction, which never was claimed. The only time it was discussed "specifically" was about removing it "specifically" from the relocation deduction.

Typical Right-wing diversion!

LOL! The claim was the GOP "helped move jobs to China" with a tax deduction that has always been available, nothing new created or signed by the GOP, that's worth a whopping $14 million a year.

And all my "diversions" were from the link RDEAN provided. Hilarious!!!

 

[jknowgood]

He liberated a country dumbass, to NAD Obama cut and ran and screwed it up. Making all those 1000's of soldiers that died. Died in vain.

That didn't want to be "liberated."
Obama saved 10s of thousands of AMERICAN lives by withdrawing from Bush's Folly preventing Bush from killing more Americans in vain.

Do you not realize this? Women voting, dumbass? Obama messed that up.

 

[davecmarino]

When you look at GOP accomplishments, you get things like:

Stopped millions from health care
Invaded Iraq
Government shut down
Tax cuts for billionaires
Helped move millions of jobs to China
Spent trillions on Iraq
Cut food stamps for poor children

What else is there? Let Bin Laden go?

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country. To remedy this, Senate Democrats proposed the Bring Jobs Home Act in 2012 and again in 2014. The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

GOP, U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Beat Back Bill To Combat Outsourcing

Honestly, I don't understand your kind. During all the Bush years and the years under Obama, there have been news stories about the US Chamber of Commerce and how they give to Democrats one tenth of what they give to Republicans.

Then there are all the stories about how they give to Republicans. All the stories about how the GOP blocks any bill that would work to keep jobs here.

‘US’ Chamber Of Commerce Hosts Seminars With Chinese Gov Officials To Teach American Firms How To Outsource

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/uschamberofoutsourcing.pdf

If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up? Don't you want to know the facts? How can you make any reasonable replies when you don't even know what's going on?

I don't get this urge to remain stupid. Perhaps you could explain it.

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

That's awful. But That doesn't show that was a "GOP accomplishment".

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country.

Democrats think a lot of imaginary things are unfair.

The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

Thanks for the link. I liked this part.

"When we asked Democratic groups for evidence for their claims, they pointed us to Republican votes on a failed tax reform bill -- a bill that experts told us would not have affected corporations’ behavior."

It's nice when a liberal disproves his own claim.


If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up?

I do, but the easiest way to disprove a liberal claim, is to ask the claimant to prove it.

Thanks again!

As you pointed out the bill to bring back American jobs failed both times because of GOP opposition, but you left out the reason it failed. The GOP bitched that giving companies a tax break for the expense of moving back to the US would cost the government revenue, but the GOP had no problem with with the tax deduction for moving jobs out of the US costing the government revenue.

That's right, the GOP "logic" is you can't give a tax break to business for moving jobs back to the US because it costs the government revenue, but you CAN give a tax break to businesses that costs the government revenue if they outsource American jobs!!!

Total bullshit as the tax break for moving expenses has no such limitation. Just more crazy liberal talking points. Tax Topics - Topic 455 Moving Expenses

Also any expenses related to relocating equipment or renting new office or warehouse space is also a normal operating expense of a business.

 

[edthecynic]

When you look at GOP accomplishments, you get things like:

Stopped millions from health care
Invaded Iraq
Government shut down
Tax cuts for billionaires
Helped move millions of jobs to China
Spent trillions on Iraq
Cut food stamps for poor children

What else is there? Let Bin Laden go?

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country. To remedy this, Senate Democrats proposed the Bring Jobs Home Act in 2012 and again in 2014. The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

GOP, U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Beat Back Bill To Combat Outsourcing

Honestly, I don't understand your kind. During all the Bush years and the years under Obama, there have been news stories about the US Chamber of Commerce and how they give to Democrats one tenth of what they give to Republicans.

Then there are all the stories about how they give to Republicans. All the stories about how the GOP blocks any bill that would work to keep jobs here.

‘US’ Chamber Of Commerce Hosts Seminars With Chinese Gov Officials To Teach American Firms How To Outsource

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/uschamberofoutsourcing.pdf

If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up? Don't you want to know the facts? How can you make any reasonable replies when you don't even know what's going on?

I don't get this urge to remain stupid. Perhaps you could explain it.

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

That's awful. But That doesn't show that was a "GOP accomplishment".

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country.

Democrats think a lot of imaginary things are unfair.

The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

Thanks for the link. I liked this part.

"When we asked Democratic groups for evidence for their claims, they pointed us to Republican votes on a failed tax reform bill -- a bill that experts told us would not have affected corporations’ behavior."

It's nice when a liberal disproves his own claim.


If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up?

I do, but the easiest way to disprove a liberal claim, is to ask the claimant to prove it.

Thanks again!

As you pointed out the bill to bring back American jobs failed both times because of GOP opposition, but you left out the reason it failed. The GOP bitched that giving companies a tax break for the expense of moving back to the US would cost the government revenue, but the GOP had no problem with with the tax deduction for moving jobs out of the US costing the government revenue.

That's right, the GOP "logic" is you can't give a tax break to business for moving jobs back to the US because it costs the government revenue, but you CAN give a tax break to businesses that costs the government revenue if they outsource American jobs!!!

Total bullshit as the tax break for moving expenses has no such limitation. Just more crazy liberal talking points.

And the GOP have successfully blocked the limitation each time it was proposed by the Democratic Party to save American jobs, that is the point!!!!!

 

[edthecynic]

He liberated a country dumbass, to NAD Obama cut and ran and screwed it up. Making all those 1000's of soldiers that died. Died in vain.

That didn't want to be "liberated."
Obama saved 10s of thousands of AMERICAN lives by withdrawing from Bush's Folly preventing Bush from killing more Americans in vain.

Do you not realize this? Women voting, dumbass? Obama messed that up.View attachment 74920

They are STILL voting, , Bush and his "elected" puppet Nouri Maliki owns the mess they are voting for.

Iraq elections: Maliki's State of Law 'wins most seats' - BBC News

 

[edthecynic]

LOL! The claim was the GOP "helped move jobs to China" with a tax deduction that has always been available, nothing new created or signed by the GOP, that's worth a whopping $14 million a year.

So your "logic" is that the GOP helping to PREVENT the removal of the tax deduction for moving jobs out of the country absolves them from all responsibility for the CONTINUED effects of that deduction.

And a mere $21 million a year to bring American jobs back was so enormous the GOP had to prevent it from passing.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

EX-AIDE UNDERCUTS BENGHAZI COMMITTEE



WASHINGTON — Shortly before the House Benghazi committee ramped up its battles with the Department of Defense in its probe of the 2012 terrorist attack, the committee’s own top lawyer admitted at least four times in interviews with military officials that there was no more they could have done on that tragic night.

That’s according to a letter obtained by The Huffington Post that is being sent Monday to the chairman of the committee, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), from the top Democrats on the Benghazi panel and the House Armed Services Committee, Reps. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) and Adam Smith (D-Wash.).
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watched for 5 days as CNN reported on Americans dying(inside America) during the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. Republicans never answered for that.
Now republicans insist that Democrats are responsible when a CIA outpost is attacked half a world away and nothing is done for 12 hours.

 

[jknowgood]

He liberated a country dumbass, to NAD Obama cut and ran and screwed it up. Making all those 1000's of soldiers that died. Died in vain.

That didn't want to be "liberated."
Obama saved 10s of thousands of AMERICAN lives by withdrawing from Bush's Folly preventing Bush from killing more Americans in vain.

Do you not realize this? Women voting, dumbass? Obama messed that up.View attachment 74920

They are STILL voting, , Bush and his "elected" puppet Nouri Maliki owns the mess they are voting for.

Iraq elections: Maliki's State of Law 'wins most seats' - BBC News

Obama ended in his own words, a successful Iraq war. He owns the failure.

 

[edthecynic]

He liberated a country dumbass, to NAD Obama cut and ran and screwed it up. Making all those 1000's of soldiers that died. Died in vain.

That didn't want to be "liberated."
Obama saved 10s of thousands of AMERICAN lives by withdrawing from Bush's Folly preventing Bush from killing more Americans in vain.

Do you not realize this? Women voting, dumbass? Obama messed that up.View attachment 74920

They are STILL voting, , Bush and his "elected" puppet Nouri Maliki owns the mess they are voting for.

Iraq elections: Maliki's State of Law 'wins most seats' - BBC News

Obama ended in his own words, a successful Iraq war. He owns the failure.

And the peace was lost by Bush's hand picked puppet, Maliki, who was "elected" in 2006. Bush owns Maliki's failure.

 

[rdean]

When you look at GOP accomplishments, you get things like:

Stopped millions from health care
Invaded Iraq
Government shut down
Tax cuts for billionaires
Helped move millions of jobs to China
Spent trillions on Iraq
Cut food stamps for poor children

What else is there? Let Bin Laden go?

Helped move millions of jobs to China

That's awful! How'd they do it? Any specifics?

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country. To remedy this, Senate Democrats proposed the Bring Jobs Home Act in 2012 and again in 2014. The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

GOP, U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Beat Back Bill To Combat Outsourcing

Honestly, I don't understand your kind. During all the Bush years and the years under Obama, there have been news stories about the US Chamber of Commerce and how they give to Democrats one tenth of what they give to Republicans.

Then there are all the stories about how they give to Republicans. All the stories about how the GOP blocks any bill that would work to keep jobs here.

‘US’ Chamber Of Commerce Hosts Seminars With Chinese Gov Officials To Teach American Firms How To Outsource

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/uschamberofoutsourcing.pdf

If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up? Don't you want to know the facts? How can you make any reasonable replies when you don't even know what's going on?

I don't get this urge to remain stupid. Perhaps you could explain it.

Sure, from 2001 to 2008 millions of jobs were moved to China and over 42,000 factories closes.

That's awful. But That doesn't show that was a "GOP accomplishment".

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country.

Democrats think a lot of imaginary things are unfair.

The bill failed both times.

Is there a corporate tax break that ships jobs overseas?

Thanks for the link. I liked this part.

"When we asked Democratic groups for evidence for their claims, they pointed us to Republican votes on a failed tax reform bill -- a bill that experts told us would not have affected corporations’ behavior."

It's nice when a liberal disproves his own claim.


If you want to know anything, don't you ever spend the time to go look it up?

I do, but the easiest way to disprove a liberal claim, is to ask the claimant to prove it.

Thanks again!

Democratic lawmakers think it’s unfair that a company can take a deduction for moving costs when those costs include money spent transporting jobs out of the country.

Democrats think a lot of imaginary things are unfair.

Imaginary?

So far, all you did was unsuccessful deny. Totally expected.