Family Values

[Nosmo King]

Conservatives LOVE stepping on the necks of the unemployed! What does it matter that bills go unpaid, utilities get cut off, meals go unprepared for lack of groceries? So long as the bottom line of the Conservative budget is unaffected. More money for defense contractors? No problem! More money to corporate welfare? No problem! More taxes sheltered off shore doing no one any good? No problem! But should one of those impudent poor approach the table and in a truly Dickensian gesture dare to ask for more, please...

Conservatives hate the poor with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns.

 

[Asclepias]

Now that we settled the pissing contest, maybe someone sane can explain what the Republicans consider are Family Values? I doubt very much, "I got mine, screw the rest of you" is what they meant.

You think your version of family values is better? You want to commit theft to give to those who it doesn't belong to and you call it pragmatism. It's theft by force. Nothing more , nothing less. You get no moral or ethical credit for doing it the name of "family values".

I think you (like most closed fist people) seem to forget one important aspect of economics. In a free market where you can be a capitalist and make as much money as you want, you also have to address the other side of the issue where you are taxed to assist those that have not capitalized on the opportunity.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The "Family Values" is a subterfuge to further the liberal agenda of attacking GOP candidates on inane subjects. It is used to divert from their own failures which have and are causing a break up of American society.

The most important and binding factor of American society was a family unit supporting and succoring one another.

Liberals, on the other hand, want government to replace that unit so they can have more control over the masses.

If "Family Values" was a subterfuge it was promulgated by the GOP in concert with the Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell, two CINO's (Christians in Name Only).

 

[Iceweasel]

You libs write like you have poop in your diapers.

 

[Nosmo King]

The "Family Values" is a subterfuge to further the liberal agenda of attacking GOP candidates on inane subjects. It is used to divert from their own failures which have and are causing a break up of American society.

The most important and binding factor of American society was a family unit supporting and succoring one another.

Liberals, on the other hand, want government to replace that unit so they can have more control over the masses.

If "Family Values" was a subterfuge it was promulgated by the GOP in concert with the Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell, two CINO's (Christians in Name Only).

Republicans call for "Family Values" while they clearly do not value families.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Well, we haven't heard Family Values being important to the Republican Brand in years...

Which proves you're a moron that doesn't know what's going on.

Oh do tell oh wise one, what is going on? Let's see what the GOP is currently offering:

Family values? Nope, not recently; a Big Tent? Nope; Fiscal Conservativism? Well they talk the talk, but history suggests it is only talk for they fund what benefits them and theirs, and cut what has no benefit to them and theirs.

Compassionate Conservativism? That's a laugh. Strong on Defense? Only when it supports the stock values of Defense Contractors. How about tradtional values? Hmmm, avarice once was considered to be a deadly sin, that is until Ronald Reagan made it into a virture, "IT'S YOUR MONEY!"

You keep proving me correct. But since you are too lazy to look for yourself: (feel free to contribute, it's up top to the left, literally, not figuratively)

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• • • Country is exceptional
    • Constitution should be honored, valued, and upheld
    • Leaders should serve people, not special interests
    • Families and communities should be strong and free from government intrusion
    • Institution of traditional marriage is the foundation of society
    • Government should be smaller, smarter and more efficient
    • Health care decisions should be made by us and our doctors
    • Paychecks should not be wasted on poorly run government programs
    • Military must be strong and prepared to defend our shores
    • Culture should respect and protect life
    • Children should never be left in failing schools
    • Veterans should have the best care and opportunities in the world
    • Social programs should help lift people out of poverty
    • America should be energy independent
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No one said the GOP did not talk the talk, it fails to walk the walk and bullet points prove nothing, they are simply a short form of self serving propaganda likely written by the PR dept. and not policy makers.

 

[Wry Catcher]

You libs write like you have poop in your diapers.

And you have the audacity to call anyone a moron. Amazing.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The "Family Values" is a subterfuge to further the liberal agenda of attacking GOP candidates on inane subjects. It is used to divert from their own failures which have and are causing a break up of American society.

The most important and binding factor of American society was a family unit supporting and succoring one another.

Liberals, on the other hand, want government to replace that unit so they can have more control over the masses.

If "Family Values" was a subterfuge it was promulgated by the GOP in concert with the Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell, two CINO's (Christians in Name Only).

Republicans call for "Family Values" while they clearly do not value families.

The Republican/Conservative set only values familes which they define as a family, those which do not meet their arbitrary standard are dismissed with contempt.

 

[Nosmo King]

The "Family Values" is a subterfuge to further the liberal agenda of attacking GOP candidates on inane subjects. It is used to divert from their own failures which have and are causing a break up of American society.

The most important and binding factor of American society was a family unit supporting and succoring one another.

Liberals, on the other hand, want government to replace that unit so they can have more control over the masses.

If "Family Values" was a subterfuge it was promulgated by the GOP in concert with the Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell, two CINO's (Christians in Name Only).

Republicans call for "Family Values" while they clearly do not value families.

The Republican/Conservative set only values familes which they define as a family, those which do not meet their arbitrary standard are dismissed with contempt.

The Conservatives blame victims of Capitalism. The unemployed are unemployed due to a flaw in their character or a lack of forethought concerning their career path or because they dared to make a living wage resulting in their employer leaving the country for cheap, practically slave, labor.

The poor, the unemployed, the underemployed, the single parent, the homosexual, the woman are all targets for Conservative scorn. Probably because all these groups point out essential flaws in laizzez faire Capitalism. And no one wants flaws to be pointed out.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Well, we haven't heard Family Values being important to the Republican Brand in years, but in the days to come the H. or Rep. has an opportunity to prove they do care about our nations families.

Unemployment benefits bill headed to House

Read very carefully...
In reply, a spokesman for Boehner said, "As the speaker said months ago, we are willing to look at extending emergency unemployment insurance as long as it includes provisions to help create more private sector jobs."

The spokesman, Michael Steel, said Senate Democratic leaders had last week "ruled out adding any job measures at all."
Clearly the democrats are not interested in private sector jobs enhancement legislation. They simply want to pass a handout bill.
One issue....With the manufactured good economic news being planted by the White House and the gleeful exchanges between the left leaning media and their obedient progressive minions, why then do democrats feel it necessary to extend benefits? We have been told by the Obama admin that they have created 5 million new jobs.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Well, we haven't heard Family Values being important to the Republican Brand in years, but in the days to come the H. or Rep. has an opportunity to prove they do care about our nations families.

Unemployment benefits bill headed to House

I hope they vote "no".

I would support this legislation if it included the provisions to stimulate private sector job creation.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Well, we haven't heard Family Values being important to the Republican Brand in years, but in the days to come the H. or Rep. has an opportunity to prove they do care about our nations families.

Unemployment benefits bill headed to House

Screwing over American workers is one of the few things that will get Republicans back from vacation.

War? Not so much. If they voted on that issue, they wouldn't be able to blame Obama.

 

[Asclepias]

Well, we haven't heard Family Values being important to the Republican Brand in years, but in the days to come the H. or Rep. has an opportunity to prove they do care about our nations families.

Unemployment benefits bill headed to House

Read very carefully...
In reply, a spokesman for Boehner said, "As the speaker said months ago, we are willing to look at extending emergency unemployment insurance as long as it includes provisions to help create more private sector jobs."

The spokesman, Michael Steel, said Senate Democratic leaders had last week "ruled out adding any job measures at all."
Clearly the democrats are not interested in private sector jobs enhancement legislation. They simply want to pass a handout bill.
One issue....With the manufactured good economic news being planted by the White House and the gleeful exchanges between the left leaning media and their obedient progressive minions, why then do democrats feel it necessary to extend benefits? We have been told by the Obama admin that they have created 5 million new jobs.

What do the people do to survive while waiting on the provision to create more private sector jobs to actually kick in? Thats assuming the provision actually works?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Well, we haven't heard Family Values being important to the Republican Brand in years, but in the days to come the H. or Rep. has an opportunity to prove they do care about our nations families.

Unemployment benefits bill headed to House

I hope they vote "no".

Me too. And since when to republicans fund unemployment benefits? Do democrat law makers pull money out of their own pocket for that?

You are seriously confused about who pays for these things. There is no compassionate, ethical or moral high ground in stealing from working people to extend money to those who aren't. It's not the fault of working folks that legislators and chartered bank cartels fucked up the economy. Those working folks feel it too.

You get no moral credit for attempting a messageboard shaming of republicans on "family values" when it involves theft by force.

Loser.

I'm not a loser, and you're not a compassionate conservative (as if one ever existed). You are a callous conservative and hold to the "I got mine, screw the rest of you" ideology. That's okay for you, ever since your Messiah President Reagan made avarice into a virtue it gives you and others like you and excuse to be callous, self righteous and greedy.

hey whiner.. That "I got mine" thing is a worn out horseshit liberal talking point. So you can just stow it.
The fact is the majority of us working people are SICK AND TIRED of watching government officials telling us they are going to do something but never explain how they will do it. They then prey on the emotions of people like you and there goes our money down a rat hole.
We are busting our asses just to take care of our stuff and you bastards have the fucking GALL to label us as selfish.
Here's an idea....Write a check.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Boehner does the bidding for whomever he feels will help him keep his job, everyone and everything else is secondary. That said, the GOP wants to privatize nearly all jobs. They abhor the public sector and want every worker in American to work in the private sector (or so it seems) without representation and as an independent contractor.

I'm not posting a straw man, we've seen efforts to privatize prisons, our military and the enormous effort to label health care reform as socialism.

The private sector should need no help in creating jobs, many if not most public projects are contracted out to the private sector, and government grants are a common source of work and profit for many businesses and industries.

 

[Nosmo King]

Perhaps Conservatives believe that wealth will 'trickle down' and eventually, there will be full employment. Asia and Latin America have had wealth trickle down upon them, although we have to use the term 'wealth' in a relative way.

Those caught behind in the flight of companies overseas just have to wait their turn for the trickling to begin.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Family Values is not punishing success or putting onerous regulations on businesses causing them to severely cut back their workforce.

Unemployment checks are a vote buying scheme by Democrat Scum. $17,000,000,000,000.00 in debt is not a family value either, leftist pig.

UE checks have been around for a long time, and up until the GOP turned hard right and made avarice a virtue, began to blame the poor for being poor and defended the banksters, a vote to extend UE benefits would have received bipartisan support.

Democrats are not "scum" and I'm not a "leftist pig"! Keep in mind when you call me names I spent a career in LE and early on became immune to the taunts of angry little punks calling me and others names.

If you are "immune" then why do you find it irresistible to respond in kind? Still with the "cop ego"...No one DARES question you....
This thread has ZERO to do with the poor or bankers.
What it does involve is democrats trying to score political points by proposing another government handout.
Unemployment has been taken from it's original form as a supplement to allow people out of work through no fault of their own time to find work.
Years ago, most states required UE recipients to be actively looking for work. Every two weeks the recipient had to go to the local UE office with a form that listed places where the recipient had applied for work. If this form was not filled out or the person getting benefits did not meet the requirements, they did not receive their check.
Now UE is a paid vacation. It's killing state budgets. And creating couch potatoes.
That is IT...There is no more money.

 

[2aguy]

Never did I use the phrase Force or violence,

Because as a liberal you remove yourself from the violence by giving that power to the government...you don't go out with a gun, stick it in someones face and take their money, then give it to the poor...through your vote, you empower greedy, corrupt politicians and clock punching brueaucrats to do it for you...you don't get your hands dirty but the money is still taken from one person, the ones you don't like, and given to the group of people you like...and the politicians use, and you go on your merry way....even as you wreck the economy doing it...

You probably don't even see the consequences of your actions in the democrat controlled cities around the country...did you know that the 24 of the 25 most violent cities in the country are run by democrats, and have been run by them for decades...your policies have destroyed families, destroyed the education system, driven job creating businesses out of these cities and then you go on your way...

As Mark Levin describes liberal/progreesives/democrats....they are like locusts...they go to a city...raise taxes, raise spending, steal, lose track of the tax money, drive out job creating businesses, undermine families with their welfare/for vote schemes, undermine law enforcement...and then when the people who can escape are gone...and all you have left is Detroit...the liberals/proggressives/ democrats...move...because the city is now too violent, too poor and no place to race the next generation of liberals/progressives/democrats...and then they start the same process on another city....until they destroy that one...and move on again...

 

[Wry Catcher]

Well, we haven't heard Family Values being important to the Republican Brand in years, but in the days to come the H. or Rep. has an opportunity to prove they do care about our nations families.

Unemployment benefits bill headed to House

I hope they vote "no".

Me too. And since when to republicans fund unemployment benefits? Do democrat law makers pull money out of their own pocket for that?

You are seriously confused about who pays for these things. There is no compassionate, ethical or moral high ground in stealing from working people to extend money to those who aren't. It's not the fault of working folks that legislators and chartered bank cartels fucked up the economy. Those working folks feel it too.

You get no moral credit for attempting a messageboard shaming of republicans on "family values" when it involves theft by force.

Loser.

I'm not a loser, and you're not a compassionate conservative (as if one ever existed). You are a callous conservative and hold to the "I got mine, screw the rest of you" ideology. That's okay for you, ever since your Messiah President Reagan made avarice into a virtue it gives you and others like you and excuse to be callous, self righteous and greedy.

hey whiner.. That "I got mine" thing is a worn out horseshit liberal talking point. So you can just stow it.
The fact is the majority of us working people are SICK AND TIRED of watching government officials telling us they are going to do something but never explain how they will do it. They then prey on the emotions of people like you and there goes our money down a rat hole.
We are busting our asses just to take care of our stuff and you bastards have the fucking GALL to label us as selfish.
Here's an idea....Write a check.

First of all that "talking point" is one I promulgated, thus I'm free to use my own creation. Secondly, I write a big check; I probably pay more in taxes than you bring home in a year.

I don't like paying some of the salary and benefits to members of the H. of Rep. who have spent more time on vacation and raising money for their next election than actually at work.

I do support my money being used to repair, replace and renew our nations infrastructrue, work done by private contractors, BTW.

I'm sorry you bust your ass every day, and feel the taxes you pay go to non worthy people, in fact we agree in the principle, simply not on the details. Here are some details you might one to consider:

" A year ago, we wrote about a fantastic episode of the radio program This American Life, which was all about lobbying. One part of it revealed just how much time our elected officials in Congress spend fundraising, and the numbers were somewhat astounding. Both major political parties have set up phone banks across the street from the Capitol (because it's seen as demeaning to do the calls directly from your Congressional office) and members of the House and the Senate spend a ridiculous amount of time there. The report suggested multiple hours each day on average, just focused on raising money for their re-election campaign. It's really quite incredible."

Link and to read more:

How Much Does It Cost To Win Election To Congress Techdirt

 

[2aguy]

those caught behind in the flight of companies overseas just have to wait their turn for the trickling to begin.

liberals/progressives/democrats drive out the businesses with their policies, they escape to foreign countries...and then the lib/prog/dems complain that the businesses escaped their clutches....classic...