FBI is wrapping up e-mail investigation with no evidence Clinton willfully violated the law

[SuperDemocrat]

I'm going to use that same excuse when I fail to file taxes. I didn't intend to break the law but I did.

 

[Skylar]

CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven’t found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

One the e-mail investigation is over, is will be over for Donald. She will CRUSH HIM IN NOVEMBER! And you Donald supporter will deny you ever supported him. FUNNY!

You don't need to prove a defendant willingly violated law to be found guilty

Ignorance of the law is only an excuse if you're a cop. Not a politician with teams of lawyers lol

Laughing....most mishandling of classified information cases aren't criminally prosecuted. Security clearance is simply revoked.

Brad Moss, a Washington lawyer who deals regularly with security clearance matters, said the Justice Department could conceivably look to bring charges in the Clinton email case but prosecutors would have to decide if they "really want to take that gamble." Inquiries into mishandling of classified information generally end with a security clearance revocation rather than a criminal charge, he said.

Hillary Clinton said "It's not going to happen" when asked earlier this month whether she'd be indicted over her use of a private email server as secretary of state

With the emails in question being sent FROM an unsecure server TO an unsecure server....by Hillary and her own aides. There's not going to be any crime.

No other secretary of states violated state department policy, hillary did.

Nope. Not one Secretary of State but Hillary.

Well, except the last two before here.

The State Department Inspector General has found that classified emails were received on the personal accounts of former Secretary of State Colin Powell and the senior aides to his successor, Condoleezza Rice, according to an NBC News report.

In a letter obtained by NBC, Inspector General Steve Linick said that a total of 12 classified emails, now classified as "secret" or "confidential," were found to have been sent to the personal email accounts. Ten of them were sent to Rice's aides and two sent to Powell.

Report: Powell, Rice staff received classified emails on private accounts

But other than the last 3 Secretaries of State.....nope, nobody.

We just prosecuted patreus for exposing almost no information to some one who wasn't cleared to receive it. Hillary put her emails under lawyers and IT guys with no clearance, vast swathes of data....

Patreus walked out 8 binders of classified information to share with his mistress.

Hillary, Powell and Rice merely sent messages to their own aides. No rational person would equate them. And no prosecutor will.

We just prosecuted Patreus for literally the same thing.

No, we didn't.

Patreus walked out 8 binders of classified information to share with his mistress.

Hillary, Powell and Rice merely sent messages to their own aides. No rational person would equate them. And no prosecutor will. Nor has.

There is no difference between showing your lover who isn't a foreign agent classified documents and your IT guy, (assuming) both are equally unqualified to see that data. And the same crime has been committed....

Says you. Most legal experts disagree. Nor does the mishandling of classified information typically result in criminal prosecutions. It has to be especially intentional and aggregious. Like......giving information to a reporter. Or your mistress.

We'll see what your assumptions amount to.

Hillary just did it with every email she has written and received since she set up the server apparently. She deserves prison

Or.....you're quite simply clueless. As virtually every email was sent from an unsecured server TO an unsecured server. With a tiny fraction deemed 'classified' after the fact.

And given that you've already demonstrated startling ignorance on the topic by insisting that no other Secretary of State has done the same thing when both Powell and Rice did *exactly* the same thing.......you citing yourself on legal matters is just useless noise. As you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

 

[JimH52]

I'm going to use that same excuse when I fail to file taxes. I didn't intend to break the law but I did.

Go for it!

 

[Juicin]

CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven’t found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

One the e-mail investigation is over, is will be over for Donald. She will CRUSH HIM IN NOVEMBER! And you Donald supporter will deny you ever supported him. FUNNY!

You don't need to prove a defendant willingly violated law to be found guilty

Ignorance of the law is only an excuse if you're a cop. Not a politician with teams of lawyers lol

Laughing....most mishandling of classified information cases aren't criminally prosecuted. Security clearance is simply revoked.

Brad Moss, a Washington lawyer who deals regularly with security clearance matters, said the Justice Department could conceivably look to bring charges in the Clinton email case but prosecutors would have to decide if they "really want to take that gamble." Inquiries into mishandling of classified information generally end with a security clearance revocation rather than a criminal charge, he said.

Hillary Clinton said "It's not going to happen" when asked earlier this month whether she'd be indicted over her use of a private email server as secretary of state

With the emails in question being sent FROM an unsecure server TO an unsecure server....by Hillary and her own aides. There's not going to be any crime.

No other secretary of states violated state department policy, hillary did.

Nope. Not one Secretary of State but Hillary.

Well, except the last two before here.

The State Department Inspector General has found that classified emails were received on the personal accounts of former Secretary of State Colin Powell and the senior aides to his successor, Condoleezza Rice, according to an NBC News report.

In a letter obtained by NBC, Inspector General Steve Linick said that a total of 12 classified emails, now classified as "secret" or "confidential," were found to have been sent to the personal email accounts. Ten of them were sent to Rice's aides and two sent to Powell.

Report: Powell, Rice staff received classified emails on private accounts

But other than the last 3 Secretaries of State.....nope, nobody.

We just prosecuted patreus for exposing almost no information to some one who wasn't cleared to receive it. Hillary put her emails under lawyers and IT guys with no clearance, vast swathes of data....

Patreus walked out 8 binders of classified information to share with his mistress.

Hillary, Powell and Rice merely sent messages to their own aides. No rational person would equate them. And no prosecutor will.

We just prosecuted Patreus for literally the same thing

There is no difference between showing your lover who isn't a foreign agent classified documents and your IT guy, (assuming) both are equally unqualified to see that data. And the same crime has been committed....

Hillary just did it with every email she has written and received since she set up the server apparently. She deserves prison

Why people think there is some big distinction between sending an email or giving some one unqualified access to your emails I do not understand. There is no difference...

edit - and again there were no rules for secretaries of state until Clinton took office. Talking about past secretaries is non sequitur at best. Not to mention no one ever accused them of giving access to people who weren't qualified to see their emails.

Really? You are comparing the Hillary emails to Patreus willfully giving top secret stuff to his lover? You don't know enough details on Hillary's e-mails to say that. But nice try...

Yea it's literally the same crime

Except hillary did it on a massive scale, again intent doesn't change anything in this context. She's obligated to know the rules, that's why the state department has lawyers.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Just when she thought the FBI had cleared her .....The Fool....

 

[Skylar]

CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven’t found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

One the e-mail investigation is over, is will be over for Donald. She will CRUSH HIM IN NOVEMBER! And you Donald supporter will deny you ever supported him. FUNNY!

You don't need to prove a defendant willingly violated law to be found guilty

Ignorance of the law is only an excuse if you're a cop. Not a politician with teams of lawyers lol

Laughing....most mishandling of classified information cases aren't criminally prosecuted. Security clearance is simply revoked.

Brad Moss, a Washington lawyer who deals regularly with security clearance matters, said the Justice Department could conceivably look to bring charges in the Clinton email case but prosecutors would have to decide if they "really want to take that gamble." Inquiries into mishandling of classified information generally end with a security clearance revocation rather than a criminal charge, he said.

Hillary Clinton said "It's not going to happen" when asked earlier this month whether she'd be indicted over her use of a private email server as secretary of state

With the emails in question being sent FROM an unsecure server TO an unsecure server....by Hillary and her own aides. There's not going to be any crime.

No other secretary of states violated state department policy, hillary did.

Nope. Not one Secretary of State but Hillary.

Well, except the last two before here.

The State Department Inspector General has found that classified emails were received on the personal accounts of former Secretary of State Colin Powell and the senior aides to his successor, Condoleezza Rice, according to an NBC News report.

In a letter obtained by NBC, Inspector General Steve Linick said that a total of 12 classified emails, now classified as "secret" or "confidential," were found to have been sent to the personal email accounts. Ten of them were sent to Rice's aides and two sent to Powell.

Report: Powell, Rice staff received classified emails on private accounts

But other than the last 3 Secretaries of State.....nope, nobody.

We just prosecuted patreus for exposing almost no information to some one who wasn't cleared to receive it. Hillary put her emails under lawyers and IT guys with no clearance, vast swathes of data....

Patreus walked out 8 binders of classified information to share with his mistress.

Hillary, Powell and Rice merely sent messages to their own aides. No rational person would equate them. And no prosecutor will.

We just prosecuted Patreus for literally the same thing

There is no difference between showing your lover who isn't a foreign agent classified documents and your IT guy, (assuming) both are equally unqualified to see that data. And the same crime has been committed....

Hillary just did it with every email she has written and received since she set up the server apparently. She deserves prison

Why people think there is some big distinction between sending an email or giving some one unqualified access to your emails I do not understand. There is no difference...

edit - and again there were no rules for secretaries of state until Clinton took office. Talking about past secretaries is non sequitur at best. Not to mention no one ever accused them of giving access to people who weren't qualified to see their emails.

Really? You are comparing the Hillary emails to Patreus willfully giving top secret stuff to his lover? You don't know enough details on Hillary's e-mails to say that. But nice try...

Yea it's literally the same crime

Except hillary did it on a massive scale, again intent doesn't change anything in this context. She's obligated to know the rules, that's why the state department has lawyers.

Says you. Most legal experts disagree. And as Powell and Rice did the exact same thing without charges, there's clearly a few holes in your assumptions.

 

[Juicin]

You don't need to prove a defendant willingly violated law to be found guilty

Ignorance of the law is only an excuse if you're a cop. Not a politician with teams of lawyers lol

Laughing....most mishandling of classified information cases aren't criminally prosecuted. Security clearance is simply revoked.

Brad Moss, a Washington lawyer who deals regularly with security clearance matters, said the Justice Department could conceivably look to bring charges in the Clinton email case but prosecutors would have to decide if they "really want to take that gamble." Inquiries into mishandling of classified information generally end with a security clearance revocation rather than a criminal charge, he said.

Hillary Clinton said "It's not going to happen" when asked earlier this month whether she'd be indicted over her use of a private email server as secretary of state

With the emails in question being sent FROM an unsecure server TO an unsecure server....by Hillary and her own aides. There's not going to be any crime.

No other secretary of states violated state department policy, hillary did.

Nope. Not one Secretary of State but Hillary.

Well, except the last two before here.

The State Department Inspector General has found that classified emails were received on the personal accounts of former Secretary of State Colin Powell and the senior aides to his successor, Condoleezza Rice, according to an NBC News report.

In a letter obtained by NBC, Inspector General Steve Linick said that a total of 12 classified emails, now classified as "secret" or "confidential," were found to have been sent to the personal email accounts. Ten of them were sent to Rice's aides and two sent to Powell.

Report: Powell, Rice staff received classified emails on private accounts

But other than the last 3 Secretaries of State.....nope, nobody.

We just prosecuted patreus for exposing almost no information to some one who wasn't cleared to receive it. Hillary put her emails under lawyers and IT guys with no clearance, vast swathes of data....

Patreus walked out 8 binders of classified information to share with his mistress.

Hillary, Powell and Rice merely sent messages to their own aides. No rational person would equate them. And no prosecutor will.

We just prosecuted Patreus for literally the same thing

There is no difference between showing your lover who isn't a foreign agent classified documents and your IT guy, (assuming) both are equally unqualified to see that data. And the same crime has been committed....

Hillary just did it with every email she has written and received since she set up the server apparently. She deserves prison

Why people think there is some big distinction between sending an email or giving some one unqualified access to your emails I do not understand. There is no difference...

edit - and again there were no rules for secretaries of state until Clinton took office. Talking about past secretaries is non sequitur at best. Not to mention no one ever accused them of giving access to people who weren't qualified to see their emails.

Really? You are comparing the Hillary emails to Patreus willfully giving top secret stuff to his lover? You don't know enough details on Hillary's e-mails to say that. But nice try...

Yea it's literally the same crime

Except hillary did it on a massive scale, again intent doesn't change anything in this context. She's obligated to know the rules, that's why the state department has lawyers.

Says you. Most legal experts disagree. And as Powell and Rice did the exact same thing without charges, there's clearly a few holes in your assumptions.

No one has ever provided any evidence any former secretaries of state allowed people without the clearance to view state secrets, again totally non sequitur.It's not illegal to have an email server as secretary of state. It's illegal to improperly handle classified information. Like hire IT guys who can read every email you've ever written and never do a background check because you don't want transparency.

And most legal experts do not agree, the vast majority of legal experts have not been asked. The ones in the white house don't agree, much less the rest of the lawyers in the country

 

[g5000]

CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

God...DAMMIT!!

Son of a...BITCH!!!

Fuuuuu....uuuuuu...uuuuu...CK!

Are you...are you...SHITTING ME?!?

 

[Siete]

now we get to listen about the FBI not doing their job for the next decade from the RW's ...


they make up as much bullshit as they can, and when nobody can make it come true its their fault, and not the RW's.

 

[Skylar]

Laughing....most mishandling of classified information cases aren't criminally prosecuted. Security clearance is simply revoked.

With the emails in question being sent FROM an unsecure server TO an unsecure server....by Hillary and her own aides. There's not going to be any crime.

Nope. Not one Secretary of State but Hillary.

Well, except the last two before here.

But other than the last 3 Secretaries of State.....nope, nobody.

Patreus walked out 8 binders of classified information to share with his mistress.

Hillary, Powell and Rice merely sent messages to their own aides. No rational person would equate them. And no prosecutor will.

We just prosecuted Patreus for literally the same thing

There is no difference between showing your lover who isn't a foreign agent classified documents and your IT guy, (assuming) both are equally unqualified to see that data. And the same crime has been committed....

Hillary just did it with every email she has written and received since she set up the server apparently. She deserves prison

Why people think there is some big distinction between sending an email or giving some one unqualified access to your emails I do not understand. There is no difference...

edit - and again there were no rules for secretaries of state until Clinton took office. Talking about past secretaries is non sequitur at best. Not to mention no one ever accused them of giving access to people who weren't qualified to see their emails.

Really? You are comparing the Hillary emails to Patreus willfully giving top secret stuff to his lover? You don't know enough details on Hillary's e-mails to say that. But nice try...

Yea it's literally the same crime

Except hillary did it on a massive scale, again intent doesn't change anything in this context. She's obligated to know the rules, that's why the state department has lawyers.

Says you. Most legal experts disagree. And as Powell and Rice did the exact same thing without charges, there's clearly a few holes in your assumptions.

No one has ever provided any evidence any former secretaries of state allowed people without the clearance to view state secrets, again totally non sequitur.

Nobody....but the Inspector General of the State Department:

The State Department Inspector General has found that classified emails were received on the personal accounts of former Secretary of State Colin Powell and the senior aides to his successor, Condoleezza Rice, according to an NBC News report.

In a letter obtained by NBC, Inspector General Steve Linick said that a total of 12 classified emails, now classified as "secret" or "confidential," were found to have been sent to the personal email accounts. Ten of them were sent to Rice's aides and two sent to Powell.

Report: Powell, Rice staff received classified emails on private accounts

Remember, you don't actually know what you're talking about. Making your assurance of what is or isn't the case essentially just noise.

It's not illegal to have an email server as secretary of state. It's illegal to improperly handle classified information. Like hire IT guys who can read every email you've ever written and never do a background check because you don't want transparency.

And almost none of the emails were classified. The server at the State department they were sent from was unsecured. The server they were sent to was unsecured. And among those tiny fraction that were classified......virtually all were deemed classified after the fact.

And of course, these were sent to and from the SOS to their aides. Not a double agent from China or a member of the press.

And finally, most cases of mishandling of classified information simply result in a revocation of security clearance. Not criminal charges. It has to be esspecially intentional and eggregious to result in criminal charges. Like if you were walking out binders of already classified information to share with your mistress. Or give to the press.

Neither of which is the case here. Which is why there will be no charges.

And most legal experts do not agree, the vast majority of legal experts have not been asked. The ones in the white house don't agree, much less the rest of the lawyers in the country

Among the legal experts in national security that have been asked......all but one indicated it was a stretch and that Clinton wouldn't be charged with anything.

You insist you know better. We'll see what your personal opinion is worth, won't we?

 

[Juicin]

We just prosecuted Patreus for literally the same thing

There is no difference between showing your lover who isn't a foreign agent classified documents and your IT guy, (assuming) both are equally unqualified to see that data. And the same crime has been committed....

Hillary just did it with every email she has written and received since she set up the server apparently. She deserves prison

Why people think there is some big distinction between sending an email or giving some one unqualified access to your emails I do not understand. There is no difference...

edit - and again there were no rules for secretaries of state until Clinton took office. Talking about past secretaries is non sequitur at best. Not to mention no one ever accused them of giving access to people who weren't qualified to see their emails.

Really? You are comparing the Hillary emails to Patreus willfully giving top secret stuff to his lover? You don't know enough details on Hillary's e-mails to say that. But nice try...

Yea it's literally the same crime

Except hillary did it on a massive scale, again intent doesn't change anything in this context. She's obligated to know the rules, that's why the state department has lawyers.

Says you. Most legal experts disagree. And as Powell and Rice did the exact same thing without charges, there's clearly a few holes in your assumptions.

No one has ever provided any evidence any former secretaries of state allowed people without the clearance to view state secrets, again totally non sequitur.

Nobody....but the Inspector General of the State Department:

The State Department Inspector General has found that classified emails were received on the personal accounts of former Secretary of State Colin Powell and the senior aides to his successor, Condoleezza Rice, according to an NBC News report.

In a letter obtained by NBC, Inspector General Steve Linick said that a total of 12 classified emails, now classified as "secret" or "confidential," were found to have been sent to the personal email accounts. Ten of them were sent to Rice's aides and two sent to Powell.

Report: Powell, Rice staff received classified emails on private accounts

Remember, you don't actually know what you're talking about. Making your assurance of what is or isn't the case essentially just noise.

It's not illegal to have an email server as secretary of state. It's illegal to improperly handle classified information. Like hire IT guys who can read every email you've ever written and never do a background check because you don't want transparency.

And almost none of the emails were classified. The server at the State department they were sent from was unsecured. The server they were sent to was unsecured. And among those tiny fraction that were classified......virtually all were deemed classified after the fact.

And of course, these were sent to and from the SOS to their aides. Not a double agent from China or a member of the press.

And finally, most cases of mishandling of classified information simply result in a revocation of security clearance. Not criminal charges. It has to be esspecially intentional and eggregious to result in criminal charges. Like if you were walking out binders of already classified information to share with your mistress. Or give to the press.

Neither of which is the case here. Which is why there will be no charges.

And most legal experts do not agree, the vast majority of legal experts have not been asked. The ones in the white house don't agree, much less the rest of the lawyers in the country

Among the legal experts in national security that have been asked......all but one indicated it was a stretch and that Clinton wouldn't be charged with anything.

You insist you know better. We'll see what your personal opinion is worth, won't we?

None of that implies that anyone who shouldn't have seen those documents did. Presumably her aides have clearance

We know Hillary IT guys and lawyers did not, lol

Having a server isn't illegal. Giving access to people without clearnace is. Nothing that Condi did was illegal, at least no accusations have surfaced. Maybe she used private IT guys too, I doubt it though.

And there is a well tread process to get your lawyers security clearance, she just was too lazy even with the world watching her.

 

[Care4all]

Laughing....most mishandling of classified information cases aren't criminally prosecuted. Security clearance is simply revoked.

With the emails in question being sent FROM an unsecure server TO an unsecure server....by Hillary and her own aides. There's not going to be any crime.

Nope. Not one Secretary of State but Hillary.

Well, except the last two before here.

But other than the last 3 Secretaries of State.....nope, nobody.

Patreus walked out 8 binders of classified information to share with his mistress.

Hillary, Powell and Rice merely sent messages to their own aides. No rational person would equate them. And no prosecutor will.

We just prosecuted Patreus for literally the same thing

There is no difference between showing your lover who isn't a foreign agent classified documents and your IT guy, (assuming) both are equally unqualified to see that data. And the same crime has been committed....

Hillary just did it with every email she has written and received since she set up the server apparently. She deserves prison

Why people think there is some big distinction between sending an email or giving some one unqualified access to your emails I do not understand. There is no difference...

edit - and again there were no rules for secretaries of state until Clinton took office. Talking about past secretaries is non sequitur at best. Not to mention no one ever accused them of giving access to people who weren't qualified to see their emails.

Really? You are comparing the Hillary emails to Patreus willfully giving top secret stuff to his lover? You don't know enough details on Hillary's e-mails to say that. But nice try...

Yea it's literally the same crime

Except hillary did it on a massive scale, again intent doesn't change anything in this context. She's obligated to know the rules, that's why the state department has lawyers.

Says you. Most legal experts disagree. And as Powell and Rice did the exact same thing without charges, there's clearly a few holes in your assumptions.

No one has ever provided any evidence any former secretaries of state allowed people without the clearance to view state secrets, again totally non sequitur.It's not illegal to have an email server as secretary of state. It's illegal to improperly handle classified information. Like hire IT guys who can read every email you've ever written and never do a background check because you don't want transparency.

And most legal experts do not agree, the vast majority of legal experts have not been asked. The ones in the white house don't agree, much less the rest of the lawyers in the country

duhhhhh, so AOL and all their IT guys have classified secret clearance? a private server seems more secure than using AOL's server.

Her IT guy worked for the govt and had classified clearance, she paid him while off duty to set up her account and since NONE of the messages she received were classified at the time they were sent then there is no violation or crime.

Did she intentionally give top secret info to the enemy? The one statute that was posted as the law she broke, was not broken....do you have another statute that is different that you believe she broke? And what or who has made you believe she broke any laws? Your beloved right wing media???

 

[boedicca]

The OP is total spin.

hiLIARy is guilty of violating these provisions of the Espionage Act:

• Section 793, which applies to anyone who has been "entrusted" with information relating to the national defense, and to a federal official who "through gross negligence permits" information "to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, to be lost, stolen, abstracted or destroyed."
• Section 798, which applies to any government official who "knowingly and willfully communicates" information "to an unauthorized person."
• Section 1001, which addresses giving "false statements."

 

[Clementine]

CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven’t found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

One the e-mail investigation is over, is will be over for Donald. She will CRUSH HIM IN NOVEMBER! And you Donald supporter will deny you ever supported him. FUNNY!

This is bullshit.

Hillary requested the use of a private email server. She was told no due to security issues. She did it anyway.

That means she deliberately used her own server, knowing about security issues. She didn't give a shit.

This entire election is a fucking joke. The useful idiots have increased in numbers to the point that they now threaten to give tyrants the green light to destroy America.

 

[Skylar]

Really? You are comparing the Hillary emails to Patreus willfully giving top secret stuff to his lover? You don't know enough details on Hillary's e-mails to say that. But nice try...

Yea it's literally the same crime

Except hillary did it on a massive scale, again intent doesn't change anything in this context. She's obligated to know the rules, that's why the state department has lawyers.

Says you. Most legal experts disagree. And as Powell and Rice did the exact same thing without charges, there's clearly a few holes in your assumptions.

No one has ever provided any evidence any former secretaries of state allowed people without the clearance to view state secrets, again totally non sequitur.

Nobody....but the Inspector General of the State Department:

The State Department Inspector General has found that classified emails were received on the personal accounts of former Secretary of State Colin Powell and the senior aides to his successor, Condoleezza Rice, according to an NBC News report.

In a letter obtained by NBC, Inspector General Steve Linick said that a total of 12 classified emails, now classified as "secret" or "confidential," were found to have been sent to the personal email accounts. Ten of them were sent to Rice's aides and two sent to Powell.

Report: Powell, Rice staff received classified emails on private accounts

Remember, you don't actually know what you're talking about. Making your assurance of what is or isn't the case essentially just noise.

It's not illegal to have an email server as secretary of state. It's illegal to improperly handle classified information. Like hire IT guys who can read every email you've ever written and never do a background check because you don't want transparency.

And almost none of the emails were classified. The server at the State department they were sent from was unsecured. The server they were sent to was unsecured. And among those tiny fraction that were classified......virtually all were deemed classified after the fact.

And of course, these were sent to and from the SOS to their aides. Not a double agent from China or a member of the press.

And finally, most cases of mishandling of classified information simply result in a revocation of security clearance. Not criminal charges. It has to be esspecially intentional and eggregious to result in criminal charges. Like if you were walking out binders of already classified information to share with your mistress. Or give to the press.

Neither of which is the case here. Which is why there will be no charges.

And most legal experts do not agree, the vast majority of legal experts have not been asked. The ones in the white house don't agree, much less the rest of the lawyers in the country

Among the legal experts in national security that have been asked......all but one indicated it was a stretch and that Clinton wouldn't be charged with anything.

You insist you know better. We'll see what your personal opinion is worth, won't we?

None of that implies that anyone who shouldn't have seen those documents did. Presumably her aides have clearance

We know Hillary IT guys and lawyers did not, lol

Having a server isn't illegal. Giving access to people without clearnace is. Nothing that Condi did was illegal, at least no accusations have surfaced. Maybe she used private IT guys too, I doubt it though.

And there is a well tread process to get your lawyers security clearance, she just was too lazy even with the world watching her.

So your entire argument has been winnowed down to Hillary's lawyer not being allowed to see emails from her personal server?

Um, tell us about the security clearance the laywer possessed. With evidence, please. As your habit of citing yourself on this topic hasn't been particularly productive......as you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Juicin]

We just prosecuted Patreus for literally the same thing

There is no difference between showing your lover who isn't a foreign agent classified documents and your IT guy, (assuming) both are equally unqualified to see that data. And the same crime has been committed....

Hillary just did it with every email she has written and received since she set up the server apparently. She deserves prison

Why people think there is some big distinction between sending an email or giving some one unqualified access to your emails I do not understand. There is no difference...

edit - and again there were no rules for secretaries of state until Clinton took office. Talking about past secretaries is non sequitur at best. Not to mention no one ever accused them of giving access to people who weren't qualified to see their emails.

Really? You are comparing the Hillary emails to Patreus willfully giving top secret stuff to his lover? You don't know enough details on Hillary's e-mails to say that. But nice try...

Yea it's literally the same crime

Except hillary did it on a massive scale, again intent doesn't change anything in this context. She's obligated to know the rules, that's why the state department has lawyers.

Says you. Most legal experts disagree. And as Powell and Rice did the exact same thing without charges, there's clearly a few holes in your assumptions.

No one has ever provided any evidence any former secretaries of state allowed people without the clearance to view state secrets, again totally non sequitur.It's not illegal to have an email server as secretary of state. It's illegal to improperly handle classified information. Like hire IT guys who can read every email you've ever written and never do a background check because you don't want transparency.

And most legal experts do not agree, the vast majority of legal experts have not been asked. The ones in the white house don't agree, much less the rest of the lawyers in the country

duhhhhh, so AOL and all their IT guys have classified secret clearance? a private server seems more secure than using AOL's server.

Her IT guy worked for the govt and had classified clearance, she paid him while off duty to set up her account and since NONE of the messages she received were classified at the time they were sent then there is no violation or crime.

Did she intentionally give top secret info to the enemy? The one statute that was posted as the law she broke, was not broken....do you have another statute that is different that you believe she broke? And what or who has made you believed she broke any laws? Your beloved right wing media???

You understand there is a vast difference between an email server and an email account, right?

Totally non sequitur, I keep saying it and it still is. And again what they were doing was not against State policy, unlike Hillary.

 

[Skylar]

CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven’t found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

One the e-mail investigation is over, is will be over for Donald. She will CRUSH HIM IN NOVEMBER! And you Donald supporter will deny you ever supported him. FUNNY!

This is bullshit.

Hillary requested the use of a private email server. She was told no due to security issues. She did it anyway.

HIllary was denied a request for a secure smartphone. When was she denied a request to use a private email server?

 

[Juicin]

Yea it's literally the same crime

Except hillary did it on a massive scale, again intent doesn't change anything in this context. She's obligated to know the rules, that's why the state department has lawyers.

Says you. Most legal experts disagree. And as Powell and Rice did the exact same thing without charges, there's clearly a few holes in your assumptions.

No one has ever provided any evidence any former secretaries of state allowed people without the clearance to view state secrets, again totally non sequitur.

Nobody....but the Inspector General of the State Department:

The State Department Inspector General has found that classified emails were received on the personal accounts of former Secretary of State Colin Powell and the senior aides to his successor, Condoleezza Rice, according to an NBC News report.

In a letter obtained by NBC, Inspector General Steve Linick said that a total of 12 classified emails, now classified as "secret" or "confidential," were found to have been sent to the personal email accounts. Ten of them were sent to Rice's aides and two sent to Powell.

Report: Powell, Rice staff received classified emails on private accounts

Remember, you don't actually know what you're talking about. Making your assurance of what is or isn't the case essentially just noise.

It's not illegal to have an email server as secretary of state. It's illegal to improperly handle classified information. Like hire IT guys who can read every email you've ever written and never do a background check because you don't want transparency.

And almost none of the emails were classified. The server at the State department they were sent from was unsecured. The server they were sent to was unsecured. And among those tiny fraction that were classified......virtually all were deemed classified after the fact.

And of course, these were sent to and from the SOS to their aides. Not a double agent from China or a member of the press.

And finally, most cases of mishandling of classified information simply result in a revocation of security clearance. Not criminal charges. It has to be esspecially intentional and eggregious to result in criminal charges. Like if you were walking out binders of already classified information to share with your mistress. Or give to the press.

Neither of which is the case here. Which is why there will be no charges.

And most legal experts do not agree, the vast majority of legal experts have not been asked. The ones in the white house don't agree, much less the rest of the lawyers in the country

Among the legal experts in national security that have been asked......all but one indicated it was a stretch and that Clinton wouldn't be charged with anything.

You insist you know better. We'll see what your personal opinion is worth, won't we?

None of that implies that anyone who shouldn't have seen those documents did. Presumably her aides have clearance

We know Hillary IT guys and lawyers did not, lol

Having a server isn't illegal. Giving access to people without clearnace is. Nothing that Condi did was illegal, at least no accusations have surfaced. Maybe she used private IT guys too, I doubt it though.

And there is a well tread process to get your lawyers security clearance, she just was too lazy even with the world watching her.

So your entire argument has been winnowed down to Hillary's lawyer not being allowed to see emails from her personal server?

Um, tell us about the security clearance the laywer possessed. With evidence, please. As your habit of citing yourself on this topic hasn't been particularly productive......as you don't know what you're talking about.

Yea it's the same crime, Hillary just compromised all her correspondence not only to multiple lawyers but random IT guys she hired in colorado

The only difference is scale.

More people, more documents. If she had done all this with people who were credentialed to see it there isn't much of an argument. And your lawyers can protect you.

Her lawyers don't have a memo saying this might be OK, because it wasn't.

 

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Gosh darn it. Now the poor rubes will have to talk about the issues facing America, and the solutions each candidate is offering, instead of manufacturing some bullshit and hoping it will stick.

Oh, wait. WHAT AM I THINKING!?!?

 

[Vigilante]

Is stupidity of the law NOW an affirmative defense....or only for subversive lefties holding high positions in government?