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Schumer filibustered a hearing on finding a compromise. this entire thing is the dems trying to get a 2020 talking point that Trump failed to deliver on the wall. That's all its about, and anyone with any brains knows that.
The same dems voted to fund a wall under Obama, now they refuse to. Hypocrisy, or politics, or BOTH?
No, they're not hard working citizens. They're drones and paper shufflers on the government dole. They're democrat pawns. They're "nonessential". They should be laid off and go find real productive jobs.A great many hard working citizens are not allowed to go to work thanks tor you god in the White House. But all you care about is pleasing your god
Such horseshit. You have no clue what you are talking about. They are people just like you and I who just want to do their job and provide for their family. They are no more "on the dole" than members of the military, all of them are providing a service to their country. There are good ones and bad ones, just like in every walk of life. But all you can do is keep parroting that party talking points while choosing to remain ignorant of the facts.
When I was in the Corps and stationed in Okinawa we would get about 5 to 7 typhoons a year. During the typhoon all the nonessential personnel were restricted to their quarters. Using your logic about nonessential, that means 90% of the base should have been booted from the military and made to go find real productive jobs.
I hope you are not claiming that all civil servants provide value to the country. Because I worked as a government contractor for over 40 years and I knew hundreds of GS employees that did absolutely nothing.
As I said, there are good one and there are bad ones. The same thing even held true in the military, do you think that everyone in a uniform is working their ass off for the country? Same thing holds true in most companies. Hell my wife's hospital has nurses that are not worth a shit but they are hard to get rid of as they do just enough to get by.
Yep, there is deadwood in every occupation, the difference is that in private industry its usually removed, in government it never is.
Bullseye. I've worked in government and know exactly what you mean. Many build a nest and just occupy for years, showing up, getting benefits and pay, all the while doing absolutely nothing.No, they're not hard working citizens. They're drones and paper shufflers on the government dole. They're democrat pawns. They're "nonessential". They should be laid off and go find real productive jobs.
Such horseshit. You have no clue what you are talking about. They are people just like you and I who just want to do their job and provide for their family. They are no more "on the dole" than members of the military, all of them are providing a service to their country. There are good ones and bad ones, just like in every walk of life. But all you can do is keep parroting that party talking points while choosing to remain ignorant of the facts.
When I was in the Corps and stationed in Okinawa we would get about 5 to 7 typhoons a year. During the typhoon all the nonessential personnel were restricted to their quarters. Using your logic about nonessential, that means 90% of the base should have been booted from the military and made to go find real productive jobs.
I hope you are not claiming that all civil servants provide value to the country. Because I worked as a government contractor for over 40 years and I knew hundreds of GS employees that did absolutely nothing.
As I said, there are good one and there are bad ones. The same thing even held true in the military, do you think that everyone in a uniform is working their ass off for the country? Same thing holds true in most companies. Hell my wife's hospital has nurses that are not worth a shit but they are hard to get rid of as they do just enough to get by.
Yep, there is deadwood in every occupation, the difference is that in private industry its usually removed, in government it never is.
Schumer filibustered a hearing on finding a compromise. this entire thing is the dems trying to get a 2020 talking point that Trump failed to deliver on the wall. That's all its about, and anyone with any brains knows that.
The same dems voted to fund a wall under Obama, now they refuse to. Hypocrisy, or politics, or BOTH?
The whole thing is about politics, on both sides. How long has Mitch been the Senate Majority leader? When has he ever cared about the wall till now?
Even Trump was willing to make a deal till Ann Coulter said mean things about him and he changed his mind yet again.
The whole things stinks of politics and the workers are stuck in the middle getting fucked over.
We should have no illegals. We don't have an immigration clause we have a naturalization clause.It's tragic and sad that you support illegal aliens and sanctuary cities that protect criminals that siphon the wealth of the hard working taxpayers that play by the rules. That makes you the enemy of real Americans.It's really funny how you think that tiny trump is a champion of ANYONE other than himself, let alone the "hard working citizens that play by the rules".Poor baby. The hard working citizens that play by the rules have a champion in the White House and the haters can't get over it. Boo hoo.Whatever. You haters are going to think whatever you want anyway.According to Trump...who said he never settles...settling a case out of court prove you are guilty.
Schumer filibustered a hearing on finding a compromise. this entire thing is the dems trying to get a 2020 talking point that Trump failed to deliver on the wall. That's all its about, and anyone with any brains knows that.
The same dems voted to fund a wall under Obama, now they refuse to. Hypocrisy, or politics, or BOTH?
The whole thing is about politics, on both sides. How long has Mitch been the Senate Majority leader? When has he ever cared about the wall till now?
Even Trump was willing to make a deal till Ann Coulter said mean things about him and he changed his mind yet again.
The whole things stinks of politics and the workers are stuck in the middle getting fucked over.
I agree with you, except no one is getting fucked over, a paid vacation is hardly a fuck over. So what if you get paid at the end of it, you get paid for doing nothing, which is what many of them get paid for when they actually show up for work.
So tell Pelosi and Schumer to get off their asses and fund the wall.The union said employees can’t be forced to work without pay.
A union representing federal workers sued the government Monday over the partial shutdown, saying it was illegal to have hundreds of thousands of employees work without pay during the funding lapse.
The American Federation of Government Employees filed the lawsuit on the shutdown’s 10th day, with no signs of an imminent resolution between Congress and the White House. The union said withholding the pay of workers who continue to clock in during the shutdown runs afoul of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the Great Depression-era law establishing a minimum wage and overtime pay.
“This is not an acceptable way for any employer, let alone the U.S. government, to treat its employees,” Heidi Burakiewicz, a lawyer representing the workers, said in a statement. “These employees still need to pay childcare expenses, buy gas, and incur other expenses to go to work every day and yet, they are not getting paid. It is a blatant violation.”
Some 380,000 federal employees have been furloughed during the shutdown, meaning they are out of a job until lawmakers reach a funding agreement. But another 420,000 are continuing to work in “essential” capacities such as in law enforcement, but are not being paid.
After previous shutdowns, Congress has passed legislation to retroactively pay furloughed employees and those who worked through the closures. But in the meantime, all those workers have bills to pay. Those who don’t have deep enough savings will face some hard choices if the shutdown continues to grind on.
AFGE previously sued the government under the same claims after the 2013 shutdown, which lasted 16 days. A judge later ruled that around 25,000 workers were owed double pay due to damages.
More: Federal Employee Union Sues Government Over Shutdown, Alleging Wage Violations
Sounds reasonable to me. What do you think?
Why should they fund the Wall...Mexico is going to pay for it.So tell Pelosi and Schumer to get off their asses and fund the wall.The union said employees can’t be forced to work without pay.
A union representing federal workers sued the government Monday over the partial shutdown, saying it was illegal to have hundreds of thousands of employees work without pay during the funding lapse.
The American Federation of Government Employees filed the lawsuit on the shutdown’s 10th day, with no signs of an imminent resolution between Congress and the White House. The union said withholding the pay of workers who continue to clock in during the shutdown runs afoul of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the Great Depression-era law establishing a minimum wage and overtime pay.
“This is not an acceptable way for any employer, let alone the U.S. government, to treat its employees,” Heidi Burakiewicz, a lawyer representing the workers, said in a statement. “These employees still need to pay childcare expenses, buy gas, and incur other expenses to go to work every day and yet, they are not getting paid. It is a blatant violation.”
Some 380,000 federal employees have been furloughed during the shutdown, meaning they are out of a job until lawmakers reach a funding agreement. But another 420,000 are continuing to work in “essential” capacities such as in law enforcement, but are not being paid.
After previous shutdowns, Congress has passed legislation to retroactively pay furloughed employees and those who worked through the closures. But in the meantime, all those workers have bills to pay. Those who don’t have deep enough savings will face some hard choices if the shutdown continues to grind on.
AFGE previously sued the government under the same claims after the 2013 shutdown, which lasted 16 days. A judge later ruled that around 25,000 workers were owed double pay due to damages.
More: Federal Employee Union Sues Government Over Shutdown, Alleging Wage Violations
Sounds reasonable to me. What do you think?
If they could agree to use tax dollars to fund 7,000 pieces of DNC-Only PORK in Obama's failed Stimulus Bill, that included funding for things like a research project to determine why a homosexual Argentinian male's sex life is 'better' than an American heterosexual males', then they should be willing to agree to spend $5 billion on ensuring our sovereignty, securing our borders, and protecting US citizens.
Mexico is paying for it. Trump got the USA a better trade deal. It helps to understand how the world works.Why should they fund the Wall...Mexico is going to pay for it.So tell Pelosi and Schumer to get off their asses and fund the wall.The union said employees can’t be forced to work without pay.
A union representing federal workers sued the government Monday over the partial shutdown, saying it was illegal to have hundreds of thousands of employees work without pay during the funding lapse.
The American Federation of Government Employees filed the lawsuit on the shutdown’s 10th day, with no signs of an imminent resolution between Congress and the White House. The union said withholding the pay of workers who continue to clock in during the shutdown runs afoul of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the Great Depression-era law establishing a minimum wage and overtime pay.
“This is not an acceptable way for any employer, let alone the U.S. government, to treat its employees,” Heidi Burakiewicz, a lawyer representing the workers, said in a statement. “These employees still need to pay childcare expenses, buy gas, and incur other expenses to go to work every day and yet, they are not getting paid. It is a blatant violation.”
Some 380,000 federal employees have been furloughed during the shutdown, meaning they are out of a job until lawmakers reach a funding agreement. But another 420,000 are continuing to work in “essential” capacities such as in law enforcement, but are not being paid.
After previous shutdowns, Congress has passed legislation to retroactively pay furloughed employees and those who worked through the closures. But in the meantime, all those workers have bills to pay. Those who don’t have deep enough savings will face some hard choices if the shutdown continues to grind on.
AFGE previously sued the government under the same claims after the 2013 shutdown, which lasted 16 days. A judge later ruled that around 25,000 workers were owed double pay due to damages.
More: Federal Employee Union Sues Government Over Shutdown, Alleging Wage Violations
Sounds reasonable to me. What do you think?
If they could agree to use tax dollars to fund 7,000 pieces of DNC-Only PORK in Obama's failed Stimulus Bill, that included funding for things like a research project to determine why a homosexual Argentinian male's sex life is 'better' than an American heterosexual males', then they should be willing to agree to spend $5 billion on ensuring our sovereignty, securing our borders, and protecting US citizens.
and yet you mr big left winger could not say how you would get those thousands of people coming up from Mexico thousands of miles over to ellis island.....appealing to ignorance is a favorite past time for the right wing.in the Arizona desert?...frivolous at the expense of the Poor?you mean the one in the Arizona desert?....Let's upgrade Ellis Island. It is more cost effective and more humane.where is there danny?....last week you had no idea.....
sorry i knew more than one person with insurance who had sub-par medical care in the area they lived.....if they needed quality care they had to go a hundred miles to a bigger city.....plus i delivered mail to "poorer" people who were on medicaid who did not get the kind of treatment i was getting for the same problem because medicaid would not pay for it...you have a reading problem?....ok let me explain this to you....i never said being denied health care,i said able to get quality health care....hope that was easier for you to understand....agreed, but everyone should be able to get quality health care.....Agree. However, that's their responsibility, not mine.not everyone needs to live in a 2 story house or drive a Lincoln....but most need health ins.....
no one in the USA, legally or illegally, is being denied health care. They weren't before ACA and they aren't now. Stop lying about this.
ok, I'll use your adjective. No one in the USA, legally or illegally was or is being denied quality health care, before or after ACA. NO ONE. Those of us who paid covered those who couldn't or wouldn't.
The union said employees can’t be forced to work without pay.
A union representing federal workers sued the government Monday over the partial shutdown, saying it was illegal to have hundreds of thousands of employees work without pay during the funding lapse.
The American Federation of Government Employees filed the lawsuit on the shutdown’s 10th day, with no signs of an imminent resolution between Congress and the White House. The union said withholding the pay of workers who continue to clock in during the shutdown runs afoul of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the Great Depression-era law establishing a minimum wage and overtime pay.
“This is not an acceptable way for any employer, let alone the U.S. government, to treat its employees,” Heidi Burakiewicz, a lawyer representing the workers, said in a statement. “These employees still need to pay childcare expenses, buy gas, and incur other expenses to go to work every day and yet, they are not getting paid. It is a blatant violation.”
Some 380,000 federal employees have been furloughed during the shutdown, meaning they are out of a job until lawmakers reach a funding agreement. But another 420,000 are continuing to work in “essential” capacities such as in law enforcement, but are not being paid.
After previous shutdowns, Congress has passed legislation to retroactively pay furloughed employees and those who worked through the closures. But in the meantime, all those workers have bills to pay. Those who don’t have deep enough savings will face some hard choices if the shutdown continues to grind on.
AFGE previously sued the government under the same claims after the 2013 shutdown, which lasted 16 days. A judge later ruled that around 25,000 workers were owed double pay due to damages.
More: Federal Employee Union Sues Government Over Shutdown, Alleging Wage Violations
Sounds reasonable to me. What do you think?
Trump offered to meet, Dems refused. It is their shut down.
Funny. Why meet with him? He wants $5 billion for wall - Nancy says NO. Go Nancy! Trump shut the government down.
and in my 33 years in the PO i seen a few contractors who tried to take the govt for as much money as they could and did subpar work...No, they're not hard working citizens. They're drones and paper shufflers on the government dole. They're democrat pawns. They're "nonessential". They should be laid off and go find real productive jobs.Poor baby. The hard working citizens that play by the rules have a champion in the White House and the haters can't get over it. Boo hoo.
A great many hard working citizens are not allowed to go to work thanks tor you god in the White House. But all you care about is pleasing your god
Such horseshit. You have no clue what you are talking about. They are people just like you and I who just want to do their job and provide for their family. They are no more "on the dole" than members of the military, all of them are providing a service to their country. There are good ones and bad ones, just like in every walk of life. But all you can do is keep parroting that party talking points while choosing to remain ignorant of the facts.
When I was in the Corps and stationed in Okinawa we would get about 5 to 7 typhoons a year. During the typhoon all the nonessential personnel were restricted to their quarters. Using your logic about nonessential, that means 90% of the base should have been booted from the military and made to go find real productive jobs.
I hope you are not claiming that all civil servants provide value to the country. Because I worked as a government contractor for over 40 years and I knew hundreds of GS employees that did absolutely nothing.
that only applies to the PTF's and casuals on the letter carrier side,full time carriers are guaranteed at least 8 hours of work...The union said employees can’t be forced to work without pay.
A union representing federal workers sued the government Monday over the partial shutdown, saying it was illegal to have hundreds of thousands of employees work without pay during the funding lapse.
The American Federation of Government Employees filed the lawsuit on the shutdown’s 10th day, with no signs of an imminent resolution between Congress and the White House. The union said withholding the pay of workers who continue to clock in during the shutdown runs afoul of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the Great Depression-era law establishing a minimum wage and overtime pay.
“This is not an acceptable way for any employer, let alone the U.S. government, to treat its employees,” Heidi Burakiewicz, a lawyer representing the workers, said in a statement. “These employees still need to pay childcare expenses, buy gas, and incur other expenses to go to work every day and yet, they are not getting paid. It is a blatant violation.”
Some 380,000 federal employees have been furloughed during the shutdown, meaning they are out of a job until lawmakers reach a funding agreement. But another 420,000 are continuing to work in “essential” capacities such as in law enforcement, but are not being paid.
After previous shutdowns, Congress has passed legislation to retroactively pay furloughed employees and those who worked through the closures. But in the meantime, all those workers have bills to pay. Those who don’t have deep enough savings will face some hard choices if the shutdown continues to grind on.
AFGE previously sued the government under the same claims after the 2013 shutdown, which lasted 16 days. A judge later ruled that around 25,000 workers were owed double pay due to damages.
More: Federal Employee Union Sues Government Over Shutdown, Alleging Wage Violations
Sounds reasonable to me. What do you think?
I used to work for the Post Office. Included in the contract was the phrase "needs of the service". Meant that I agreed that my hours, or lack thereof, were determined by whether or not they needed me. Mostly, it enabled them to declare mandatory overtime during busy seasons, but it also allowed them to cut hours when there just wasn't much to do.
I can't say for certain, but I'm fairly certain most if not all government employment contracts include that provision.
and in my 33 years in the PO i seen a few contractors who tried to take the govt for as much money as they could and did subpar work...No, they're not hard working citizens. They're drones and paper shufflers on the government dole. They're democrat pawns. They're "nonessential". They should be laid off and go find real productive jobs.Poor baby. The hard working citizens that play by the rules have a champion in the White House and the haters can't get over it. Boo hoo.
A great many hard working citizens are not allowed to go to work thanks tor you god in the White House. But all you care about is pleasing your god
Such horseshit. You have no clue what you are talking about. They are people just like you and I who just want to do their job and provide for their family. They are no more "on the dole" than members of the military, all of them are providing a service to their country. There are good ones and bad ones, just like in every walk of life. But all you can do is keep parroting that party talking points while choosing to remain ignorant of the facts.
When I was in the Corps and stationed in Okinawa we would get about 5 to 7 typhoons a year. During the typhoon all the nonessential personnel were restricted to their quarters. Using your logic about nonessential, that means 90% of the base should have been booted from the military and made to go find real productive jobs.
I hope you are not claiming that all civil servants provide value to the country. Because I worked as a government contractor for over 40 years and I knew hundreds of GS employees that did absolutely nothing.
The union said employees can’t be forced to work without pay.
A union representing federal workers sued the government Monday over the partial shutdown, saying it was illegal to have hundreds of thousands of employees work without pay during the funding lapse.
The American Federation of Government Employees filed the lawsuit on the shutdown’s 10th day, with no signs of an imminent resolution between Congress and the White House. The union said withholding the pay of workers who continue to clock in during the shutdown runs afoul of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the Great Depression-era law establishing a minimum wage and overtime pay.
“This is not an acceptable way for any employer, let alone the U.S. government, to treat its employees,” Heidi Burakiewicz, a lawyer representing the workers, said in a statement. “These employees still need to pay childcare expenses, buy gas, and incur other expenses to go to work every day and yet, they are not getting paid. It is a blatant violation.”
Some 380,000 federal employees have been furloughed during the shutdown, meaning they are out of a job until lawmakers reach a funding agreement. But another 420,000 are continuing to work in “essential” capacities such as in law enforcement, but are not being paid.
After previous shutdowns, Congress has passed legislation to retroactively pay furloughed employees and those who worked through the closures. But in the meantime, all those workers have bills to pay. Those who don’t have deep enough savings will face some hard choices if the shutdown continues to grind on.
AFGE previously sued the government under the same claims after the 2013 shutdown, which lasted 16 days. A judge later ruled that around 25,000 workers were owed double pay due to damages.
More: Federal Employee Union Sues Government Over Shutdown, Alleging Wage Violations
Sounds reasonable to me. What do you think?
Why don’t they go to the Republicans and tell them to stop using their workers as hostagesSo did this union, or any union sue the government every time it was shutdown, or just Trumps government???
Exactly. Instead of going to court, why doesn't the precious union go to the Senate Democrats and tell them to pass the bill with the wall money?
Do what we demand or the Federal Workers get it!
If you work for the government you are well aware that risk is there before you take the job. If you can't handle that, you should have never taken a government job in the first place.
