Brexit Has Been a Disaster

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Brexit has been a disaster. Populism itself is usually a disaster.

True.

And as Brexit/populism is a product of conservative dogma, conservatism is likewise a failure resulting in disaster.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Thing is the voters say "we've been betrayed", but it was the voters who were ignorant, who went for the charisma of Farage and Boris, instead of using their brains to think for themselves.

Many voters were also motivated by racism, bigotry, and an unwarranted fear of immigrants – another example of voters failing to use their brains.

 

[ESay]

The answer is 8% of the EU's population. Seems significant to me.

How many EU member states stopped illegals passing through Europe to get into and through France to the UK? What's the EU law if you have an illegal immigrant wandering up your shore line with no passport?

The sooner we can get out the Human Rights crap the better, start to put British Human Lives first.

France had a migrant center near Calais, the sole reason of which was to thwart illegal migrants to cross the Channel. There was an agreement between France and Britain about that.

The EU grants them an asylum seeker status. Not sure what your percentage (8%) shows. I think you know that the vast majority of non-European migrants to the UK is from former British colonies.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Noun

Remoaner (plural Remoaners)

(UK politics, derogatory) A Remainer; one who complains about or rejects the outcome of the 2016 referendum on the UK's membership of the European Union.

A Remoaner is also commonly known as a

Grave Pisser

They resent sovereignty and those where fought for it, they have no respect.

 

[justoffal]

Like most populist things, Brexit has been a disaster. Populism itself is usually a disaster. Politicians tell the population what they want to hear, regardless whether or not it's true. Whenever I go to the UK, all I hear is lament that the UK left the EU.

Eight years after the referendum, it is safe to say Britain has a serious case of “Bregret.” About 65% of Brits say that, in hindsight, leaving the EU was wrong. Just 15% say the benefits have so far outweighed the costs.​

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In the years since 2016, Britain’s economy has slowed to a crawl, growing an average 1.3% versus 1.6% for the G-7 group of rich countries overall. By putting up barriers to trade and migration with its biggest trading partner, Brexit slowed trade and hurt business investment.​

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“I’m angry,” says Steve Jackson, a burly taxi driver and part-time construction worker in Boston, a town of 70,000 in eastern England. ... many people here who backed Brexit feel betrayed. Jackson said that none of the promises made by politicians who lobbied for Brexit have come true: higher wages, cheaper food and energy, more money for healthcare, and less immigration. “We’ve been lied to—lock, stock and barrel.”​

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Goldman Sachs estimates that the British economy is 5% smaller than it otherwise would have been without Brexit, ... The National Institute of Economic and Social Research, a U.K. think tank, estimated that Brexit has resulted in a lost annual income per capita of £850 (over $1,000) since 2020. ...​

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Life in Boston meanwhile hasn’t noticeably improved, he adds. “We have achieved nothing,” he says. “You learn what you already knew: That politicians are liars.”​

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“If you think about Britain’s big problems, Brexit solved none of them: the crumbling public services, weak economic growth, a shortfall of housing and a need to modernize the energy infrastructure,” says John Springford, an economist at the Centre for European Reform think tank in London.​

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Populism sucks.

Meh.... That's nothing more than the best guess. There's no guarantee that had they not performed the exit They would be in any different condition than they are today. As I recall one of the major issues was the European Union drooling at the choppers to rush in and grab all the retirement funds from the Central Bank in London..... So they could support early retirees in places like Greece with people work short careers and then go on the dole. No I don't blame them for running away from it. The little bit of pain they're experiencing now It's probably nothing like the problems they would have had they stayed.

 

[Captain Caveman]

France had a migrant center near Calais, the sole reason of which was to thwart illegal migrants to cross the Channel. There was an agreement between France and Britain about that.

The EU grants them an asylum seeker status. Not sure what your percentage (8%) shows. I think you know that the vast majority of non-European migrants to the UK is from former British colonies.

Bold - Yes of course, how did that stop dingys?

The 8% is the immigration into the EU from outside in 2022, then allowed to move about in the Schengen scheme. So whatever the EU population was in 2022, 8% were immigrants/asylum seekers. When Italy was getting undated with migrant boats across the Mediterranean, they demanded EU help and finance or they would give the illegals passports.

It's fair to say, and the Saudi's were right, the West have totally fucked themselves up with this Utopian immigration farce. The good news is, much or Europe is now sliding to the Right because of Lefty retard immigration ideas.

 

[justoffal]

The answer is 8% of the EU's population. Seems significant to me.

How many EU member states stopped illegals passing through Europe to get into and through France to the UK? What's the EU law if you have an illegal immigrant wandering up your shore line with no passport?

The sooner we can get out the Human Rights crap the better, start to put British Human Lives first.

Well that's just the issue isn't it?
Exactly what is the purpose of a country? For the people that live in that country it's to take care of them and put their interests first. However increasingly, the elite classes that run the countries are being bribed out to sell their populace away to global interests. They of course benefit financially from this while they're constituents languish.

 

[justoffal]

Bold - Yes of course, how did that stop dingys?

The 8% is the immigration into the EU from outside in 2022, then allowed to move about in the Schengen scheme. So whatever the EU population was in 2022, 8% were immigrants/asylum seekers. When Italy was getting undated with migrant boats across the Mediterranean, they demanded EU help and finance or they would give the illegals passports.

It's fair to say, and the Saudi's were right, the West have totally fucked themselves up with this Utopian immigration farce. The good news is, much or Europe is now sliding to the Right because of Lefty retard immigration ideas.

I believe the European Union will eventually dissolve.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Meh.... That's nothing more than the best guess. There's no guarantee that had they not performed the exit They would be in any different condition than they are today. As I recall one of the major issues was the European Union drooling at the choppers to rush in and grab all the retirement funds from the Central Bank in London..... So they could support early retirees in places like Greece with people work short careers and then go on the dole. No I don't blame them for running away from it. The little bit of pain they're experiencing now It's probably nothing like the problems they would have had they stayed.

Remoaners/Grave Pissers just go on about money, they don't even realise that in the real world, folk changed job and take a pay cut to be better off in life.

Take America, why don't they Remoan over Independence, scrap it, dissolve the White House and reinstate UK's parliament. Financial wise, Americans have a greater tax burden per person than in the UK, so Independence didn't make Americans financially better off. So if Americans can equate that analogy to Brexit, then they're understand Brexit.

So an American Remoaner is a mirror image of Craptits Crepitus

 

[Captain Caveman]

I believe the European Union will eventually dissolve.

Fingers crossed. Put it back to a commission so it can just concentrate on trade, just like how it was originally set up.

 

[justoffal]

Fingers crossed. Put it back to a commission so it can just concentrate on trade, just like how it was originally set up.

Like any other entity that organizes with a budget and with employees It begins to seek to further its own interests. NATO is another of such parasitic entities that works to protect its own purpose by creating problems that it seems to solve later. In the case of the EU, it would largely be trade and immigration. In the case of NATO, starting unnecessary wars seems to justify their existence and therefore the money flow from rich nations.

 

[luiza]

If Bexit was a failure , put me down for six more at the same price .
What a load of tosh —- the OP

 

[ESay]

Bold - Yes of course, how did that stop dingys?

The 8% is the immigration into the EU from outside in 2022, then allowed to move about in the Schengen scheme. So whatever the EU population was in 2022, 8% were immigrants/asylum seekers. When Italy was getting undated with migrant boats across the Mediterranean, they demanded EU help and finance or they would give the illegals passports.

It's fair to say, and the Saudi's were right, the West have totally fucked themselves up with this Utopian immigration farce. The good news is, much or Europe is now sliding to the Right because of Lefty retard immigration ideas.

Far not of them got European passports. And Britain was not part of the Shengen zone. So, it did not affect Britain almost at all. Almost all your non-European immigrants are from your former colonies. And that had nothing to do with European regulations. Besides, Britain could just have refused immigrant quotas as Hungary and Poland did. Conflating the EU and Britain's immigration policies was the main lie of the Brexit campaign.

 

[Failzero]

Brexit was never meant to be anything else. The whole thing was invented, funded, and pushed for by people who wanted to see Britain fail.

Putin gave us tRump, but he gave them Brexit.

See Britain fail ? ( The Way the US Far Left & Left Marxists want America to Fail )

 

[Crepitus]

See Britain fail ? ( The Way the US Far Left & Left Marxists want America to Fail )

Lol, no. The way you, Putin, and Xi want the US to fail.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Far not of them got European passports. And Britain was not part of the Shengen zone. So, it did not affect Britain almost at all. Almost all your non-European immigrants are from your former colonies. And that had nothing to do with European regulations. Besides, Britain could just have refused immigrant quotas as Hungary and Poland did. Conflating the EU and Britain's immigration policies was the main lie of the Brexit campaign.

Correct, it didn't officially sign up to the scheme, but it agreed to to follow the procedure.

Anyone following the Rwanda farce will know that being part of such things as Human Rights, International Court etc.. is a hindrance.

 

[José]

Originally posted by justoffal
Like any other entity that organizes with a budget and with employees It begins to seek to further its own interests. NATO is another of such parasitic entities that works to protect its own purpose by creating problems that it seems to solve later. In the case of the EU, it would largely be trade and immigration. In the case of NATO, starting unnecessary wars seems to justify their existence and therefore the money flow from rich nations.

Thread winner....

Post of the year.

 

[ESay]

Correct, it didn't officially sign up to the scheme, but it agreed to to follow the procedure.

Anyone following the Rwanda farce will know that being part of such things as Human Rights, International Court etc.. is a hindrance.

I think that all that stories about immigration is a big hoax. Not that this issue doesn't exist. But it is natural, if you wish. What percentage of non-white guys work in NHS, your transportation services, construction and other spheres?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

They didn't leave the EU in order to be more prosperous. They left so that they could stop the disastrous flow of third-world immigrants and to rule themselves rather than having to bow down to thousands of faceless bureaucrats in Belgium.

It is likely they left too late. The damage may have been irreparable.

Immigration has accelerated since brexit.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I believe the European Union will eventually dissolve.

No. People have watched the disaster and do not want the same shitshow. Not even le pen wants out.