Feds want to lower BAC to .05 for drunk driving

In comparison to what in 1980?

Remember, your argument is prefaced by 'if'. You'll need to move past 'if' to make an argument that is relevant to this discussion.

Please see the bolded part.

Has Legal Age 21 been effective in reducing the number of alcohol-related fatalities for those aged 18 to 20?

Legal Age 21 - National Minimum Drinking Age - Choose Responsibility

The record is mixed. Many studies confirm that since the drinking age was standardized at 21 in 1984, the overall number of alcohol-related fatalities for those aged 18-20 has decreased. However, this pattern of decline began in the early 1970s, years before passage of the National Minimum Drinking Age Act. Though organizations like MADD claim the 21 year-old drinking age has saved over 21,000 lives since the mid-1980s, its is impossible to assert a cause and effect relationship between the change in the law and the decline in alcohol-related traffic fatalities; many other factors, such as safer vehicles and more stringent drunk driving laws have played an undeniably important role (see below). Several scholars have also presented the important argument that while deaths on the road may have declined sharply among 18-20 year-olds in the years following enactment of the 21 year-old drinking age, the slowest rate of decline and greatest number of annual fatalities is seen each year in the 21-24 age group. In 2002, for example, twice as many 21 year-olds died in alcohol-related auto accidents as 18 year-olds. Such a staggering statistic speaks volumes: a policy that claims to be saving thousands of each year may simply be re-distributing deaths over the life cycle to the point at which it becomes legal to drink alcohol—age 21.
 
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I'm all for this but the constitution says DUI is a state issue. Of course 99% of what the feds do should be handled by the states if we follow the constitution; in particular the 10th amendment.


Feds Want to Lower LegalDriving Limit to One Drink

jan 15 2016 The National Transportation Safety Board wants to decrease the legal driving limit to one drink, lowering the legal limit on blood-alcohol content to 0.05 “or even lower.”

The agency released its “most wanted list” on Wednesday, a laundry list of policies it would like implemented nationally. The list includes recommendations to reduce the current 0.08 blood alcohol content limit and outlaw all cell phone use while driving, even hands-free technology.

“When it comes to alcohol use, we know that impairment begins before a person’s BAC reaches 0.08 percent, the current legal limit in the United States,” the agency said. “In fact, by the time it reaches that level, the risk of a fatal crash has more than doubled. That is why states should lower BAC levels to 0.05— or even lower.”

GOOD IDEA!!!!!!
 
I'm all for this but the constitution says DUI is a state issue. Of course 99% of what the feds do should be handled by the states if we follow the constitution; in particular the 10th amendment.

What exactly is your issue? These are NTSB recommendations. The NTSB is an advisory and investigatory board. Making recommendations is what they do.

How does that violate the constitution?
The NTSB was hijacked a long time ago by people who have a religious belief that consuming alcohol is contrary to their religion. Abolitionists.

They have no right to force their silly religious beliefs on everyone else.

Abolitionists are people who oppose slavery. You're pretty much making this shit up as you go along.
Prohibitionists.

Now that you're at least using the correct terminology for you fantasy, now factually back it.
I don't have to back jack shit. The onus is on you religious freaks to back your opinion.
 
Come on all you government slaves just call for them banning liquor. just like you did with cigarettes.

but now weed. hey lets go protest to have that legalized

two faced hypocrites
 
I'm all for this but the constitution says DUI is a state issue. Of course 99% of what the feds do should be handled by the states if we follow the constitution; in particular the 10th amendment.


Feds Want to Lower LegalDriving Limit to One Drink

jan 15 2016 The National Transportation Safety Board wants to decrease the legal driving limit to one drink, lowering the legal limit on blood-alcohol content to 0.05 “or even lower.”

The agency released its “most wanted list” on Wednesday, a laundry list of policies it would like implemented nationally. The list includes recommendations to reduce the current 0.08 blood alcohol content limit and outlaw all cell phone use while driving, even hands-free technology.

“When it comes to alcohol use, we know that impairment begins before a person’s BAC reaches 0.08 percent, the current legal limit in the United States,” the agency said. “In fact, by the time it reaches that level, the risk of a fatal crash has more than doubled. That is why states should lower BAC levels to 0.05— or even lower.”

What exactly is your issue? These are NTSB recommendations. The NTSB is an advisory and investigatory board. Making recommendations is what they do.

How does that violate the constitution?
WHat will happen is that the feds will say it should be so then hold states hostage by denying federal highway funds to any state that doesn't knuckle under

That's how the federal government side steps the constitution
 
I'm all for this but the constitution says DUI is a state issue. Of course 99% of what the feds do should be handled by the states if we follow the constitution; in particular the 10th amendment.


Feds Want to Lower LegalDriving Limit to One Drink

jan 15 2016 The National Transportation Safety Board wants to decrease the legal driving limit to one drink, lowering the legal limit on blood-alcohol content to 0.05 “or even lower.”

The agency released its “most wanted list” on Wednesday, a laundry list of policies it would like implemented nationally. The list includes recommendations to reduce the current 0.08 blood alcohol content limit and outlaw all cell phone use while driving, even hands-free technology.

“When it comes to alcohol use, we know that impairment begins before a person’s BAC reaches 0.08 percent, the current legal limit in the United States,” the agency said. “In fact, by the time it reaches that level, the risk of a fatal crash has more than doubled. That is why states should lower BAC levels to 0.05— or even lower.”

What exactly is your issue? These are NTSB recommendations. The NTSB is an advisory and investigatory board. Making recommendations is what they do.

How does that violate the constitution?
WHat will happen is that the feds will say it should be so then hold states hostage by denying federal highway funds to any state that doesn't knuckle under

That's how the federal government side steps the constitution

that's why the STATES have given up their rights once they latch us onto that now Tyrant Federal Government. they are having problems in Missouri with the FEDS because they wouldn't bow to them. the people can't go into a federal building unless they have a birth certificate or a passport, because they claim the Missouri drivers license doesn't COMPLY to something they demanded. How the hell is that FREEDOM to make the people SUFFER BECAUSE something they want?
 
I'm all for this but the constitution says DUI is a state issue. Of course 99% of what the feds do should be handled by the states if we follow the constitution; in particular the 10th amendment.


Feds Want to Lower LegalDriving Limit to One Drink

jan 15 2016 The National Transportation Safety Board wants to decrease the legal driving limit to one drink, lowering the legal limit on blood-alcohol content to 0.05 “or even lower.”

The agency released its “most wanted list” on Wednesday, a laundry list of policies it would like implemented nationally. The list includes recommendations to reduce the current 0.08 blood alcohol content limit and outlaw all cell phone use while driving, even hands-free technology.

“When it comes to alcohol use, we know that impairment begins before a person’s BAC reaches 0.08 percent, the current legal limit in the United States,” the agency said. “In fact, by the time it reaches that level, the risk of a fatal crash has more than doubled. That is why states should lower BAC levels to 0.05— or even lower.”

What exactly is your issue? These are NTSB recommendations. The NTSB is an advisory and investigatory board. Making recommendations is what they do.

How does that violate the constitution?
WHat will happen is that the feds will say it should be so then hold states hostage by denying federal highway funds to any state that doesn't knuckle under

That's how the federal government side steps the constitution

that's why the STATES have given up their rights once they latch us onto that now Tyrant Federal Government. they are having problems in Missouri with the FEDS because they wouldn't bow to them. the people can't go into a federal building if they don't have a birth certificate or a passport because they claim the Missouri drivers license doesn't COMPLY to something they demanded. How the hell is that FREEDOM to make the people SUFFER BECAUSE something they want?

Did you ever think you'd see the day when a US citizen had to carry a passport to travel within the country?
 
I'm all for this but the constitution says DUI is a state issue. Of course 99% of what the feds do should be handled by the states if we follow the constitution; in particular the 10th amendment.


Feds Want to Lower LegalDriving Limit to One Drink

jan 15 2016 The National Transportation Safety Board wants to decrease the legal driving limit to one drink, lowering the legal limit on blood-alcohol content to 0.05 “or even lower.”

The agency released its “most wanted list” on Wednesday, a laundry list of policies it would like implemented nationally. The list includes recommendations to reduce the current 0.08 blood alcohol content limit and outlaw all cell phone use while driving, even hands-free technology.

“When it comes to alcohol use, we know that impairment begins before a person’s BAC reaches 0.08 percent, the current legal limit in the United States,” the agency said. “In fact, by the time it reaches that level, the risk of a fatal crash has more than doubled. That is why states should lower BAC levels to 0.05— or even lower.”

What exactly is your issue? These are NTSB recommendations. The NTSB is an advisory and investigatory board. Making recommendations is what they do.

How does that violate the constitution?
WHat will happen is that the feds will say it should be so then hold states hostage by denying federal highway funds to any state that doesn't knuckle under

That's how the federal government side steps the constitution

that's why the STATES have given up their rights once they latch us onto that now Tyrant Federal Government. they are having problems in Missouri with the FEDS because they wouldn't bow to them. the people can't go into a federal building if they don't have a birth certificate or a passport because they claim the Missouri drivers license doesn't COMPLY to something they demanded. How the hell is that FREEDOM to make the people SUFFER BECAUSE something they want?

Did you ever think you'd see the day when a US citizen had to carry a passport to travel within the country?

No, and in my 60 something years, I never thought I'd see the citizens in the country stand up for the Government over THEIR FELLOW countrymen and women. Just like that deal with the Conservatives and the IRS. That's why they've been steamrolling over us
 
I'm all for this but the constitution says DUI is a state issue. Of course 99% of what the feds do should be handled by the states if we follow the constitution; in particular the 10th amendment.


Feds Want to Lower LegalDriving Limit to One Drink

jan 15 2016 The National Transportation Safety Board wants to decrease the legal driving limit to one drink, lowering the legal limit on blood-alcohol content to 0.05 “or even lower.”

The agency released its “most wanted list” on Wednesday, a laundry list of policies it would like implemented nationally. The list includes recommendations to reduce the current 0.08 blood alcohol content limit and outlaw all cell phone use while driving, even hands-free technology.

“When it comes to alcohol use, we know that impairment begins before a person’s BAC reaches 0.08 percent, the current legal limit in the United States,” the agency said. “In fact, by the time it reaches that level, the risk of a fatal crash has more than doubled. That is why states should lower BAC levels to 0.05— or even lower.”
Where in the Constitution does it mention drunk driving?
 
State's rights issue
Just like when Reagan forced the drinking age to be changed?

He didn't force anything.

National Minimum Drinking Age Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It simply penalized any state that didn't comply with a 10% reduction in highway funding. The act also allowed for a ton of exclusions, which are in force in a bunch of states today.

…the possession of alcohol for an established religious purpose; when accompanied by a parent, spouse or legal guardian age 21 or older; for medical purposes when prescribed or administered by a licensed physician, pharmacist, dentist, nurse, hospital or medical institution; in private clubs or establishments; or to the sale, handling, transport, or service in dispensing of any alcoholic beverage pursuant to lawful employment of a person under the age of twenty-one years by a duly licensed manufacturer, wholesaler, or retailer of alcoholic beverages.

Most people don't realize it is perfectly legal in many states for preteens and teens to drink in private settings. The NMDAA was only established to control the public possession of alcohol, not private possession in ones own home and any states where it is banned outright were decided at the state level, not at the federal level.
 
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I'm all for this but the constitution says DUI is a state issue. Of course 99% of what the feds do should be handled by the states if we follow the constitution; in particular the 10th amendment.


From what I understand, the federal government doesn't actually change the law, the states do. But, the FG simply punishes states that refuse to follow their guidelines by withholding highway money.
 
WHat will happen is that the feds will say it should be so then hold states hostage by denying federal highway funds to any state that doesn't knuckle under
That's how the federal government side steps the constitution

That's how the feds force their will on the states on every issue. They take money from state residents by the federal income tax and they tell the states "We'll give it back if you do what we say."
 
the people can't go into a federal building unless they have a birth certificate or a passport, because they claim the Missouri drivers license doesn't COMPLY to something they demanded


But never require any ID to VOTE. That would be discrimination. WTH?
 
that is the FED policy everyone in the bus or choo chhooo so you can be blown up or robbed ....must save gaia
 
Its callled the Law of diminishing returns ...check it out........you've alrdy passed it at .08
 
Its callled the Law of diminishing returns ...check it out........you've alrdy passed it at .08

HAHAHA. Did you really say that.? 15,000 americans killed by drunk drivers every year and this idiot says there's nothing to be done about it!!!
 

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