FEMA Deceives Nation About Twin Towers Core

[slackjawed]

We know that ChristoFEARa has never been able to substantiate his ridiculous claim that the CORE of the Twin Towers was made out of steel and concrete as opposed to having been made just out of steel.

We know that ChristoFEARa has been both unable and unwilling to show us pictures from the construction -- or even after the collapse -- establishing that the construction of the CORES included any concrete.

What ChristoFEARa has been unwilling to demonstrate and unable to demonstrate raises a question.

WHY do the scumbag treasonous filthy dishonest Troofers, like ChristoFEARa, wish to pretend that the construction of the CORES of the Twin Towers included concrete?

Chris knows exactly what he is doing. He has refused to acknowwledge photos

I've acknowledged your photos and shown they are misrepresentations and NOT evidence.

Factually, you've been shown that the FEMA deception is verified meaning that your continued denial and subterfuge constitutes treason.

I want to thank you for the entertainment you continue to provide all of us sane people.........

 

[Christophera]

Not this shit again.



I'll post the reasons why your claims above are nothing but bullshit. More to come...

Chris, here's why you are CLUELESS.

In the photo above you say the dark grillages you point to are for the elevator support steel which was just inside the outer ring of massive box columns. Per your claim, the massive box columns were outside your supposed concrete core while the elevator support steel was inside your supposed concrete core.

Concering the columns in the core, how many column rows were there for the short axis and how many column row were there for the long axis? I'll answer for you. 6 columns along the short axis wall and 8 along the long axis.

Next is the photo that I have marked up. I have drawn red lines to indicate the column rows and numbered them 1 through 6. What's that you say? Only 6 column rows from bottom to top? How can that be? That would make the grillages you point at support for the massive box columns since columns rows 1 and 6 are massive box column rows.

OOOOPPPPPPPPSSSSS!

HUGE MISTAKE!!!!

Here is the same photo. How do we know that bottom to top is the short axis of the core (6 column rows) and left to right is the long axis of the core (8 column rows)?

How do we know that those are the 8 column rows along the long axis? See the column rows number 4 and 5? Those that the 2 columns are closer together that any of the other columns in the row. Column 4 has 3 columns to the right of it which means that column 5 has 3 columns to the left of it. 8 columns.

Here's your "buttplate" picture. The columns in the red rectangle are column rows 4 and 5 above.

So your claim that those grillages you call are are for elevator guide rail support steel is completely wrong. Those are actually grillages for the BOX COLUMNS!!!



Wait. Let me guess. You re-remembered what you didn't remember you remembered all those years ago?

How in the world did you screw this up Chris???

This is answered here,

http://www.usmessageboard.com/2082077-post439.html

Showing an inconsistency of the use of an inadequate image is not going to compensate for the fact that there has never been an image of the supposed steel core columns in the core area on 9-11.

 

[slackjawed]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

 

[Gamolon]

Chris, here's why you are CLUELESS.

In the photo above you say the dark grillages you point to are for the elevator support steel which was just inside the outer ring of massive box columns. Per your claim, the massive box columns were outside your supposed concrete core while the elevator support steel was inside your supposed concrete core.

Concering the columns in the core, how many column rows were there for the short axis and how many column row were there for the long axis? I'll answer for you. 6 columns along the short axis wall and 8 along the long axis.

Next is the photo that I have marked up. I have drawn red lines to indicate the column rows and numbered them 1 through 6. What's that you say? Only 6 column rows from bottom to top? How can that be? That would make the grillages you point at support for the massive box columns since columns rows 1 and 6 are massive box column rows.

OOOOPPPPPPPPSSSSS!

HUGE MISTAKE!!!!

Here is the same photo. How do we know that bottom to top is the short axis of the core (6 column rows) and left to right is the long axis of the core (8 column rows)?

How do we know that those are the 8 column rows along the long axis? See the column rows number 4 and 5? Those that the 2 columns are closer together that any of the other columns in the row. Column 4 has 3 columns to the right of it which means that column 5 has 3 columns to the left of it. 8 columns.

Here's your "buttplate" picture. The columns in the red rectangle are column rows 4 and 5 above.

So your claim that those grillages you call are are for elevator guide rail support steel is completely wrong. Those are actually grillages for the BOX COLUMNS!!!



Wait. Let me guess. You re-remembered what you didn't remember you remembered all those years ago?

How in the world did you screw this up Chris???

This is answered here,

http://www.usmessageboard.com/2082077-post439.html

Showing an inconsistency of the use of an inadequate image is not going to compensate for the fact that there has never been an image of the supposed steel core columns in the core area on 9-11.

Right.

And you admit you messed up again. How many times are you going to admit you fucked up concerning this theory of yours?

 

[Christophera]

You've found a minor inconsistency in my uses of a completely inadequate image, wow.

The fact you cannot show the supposed steel core columns in the core area on 9-11 is also an inconsistency, a major one. The fact that you can show no independent verification of your claims is huge. In fact that you continue without evidence proves you are acting as an agent executing an agenda.

 

[DiveCon]

You've found a minor inconsistency in my uses of a completely inadequate image, wow.

The fact you cannot show the supposed steel core columns in the core area on 9-11 is also an inconsistency, a major one. The fact that you can show no independent verification of your claims is huge. In fact that you continue without evidence proves you are acting as an agent executing an agenda.

you show them in the photos you use, dipshit
you're just too fucking delusional to see it

 

[Fizz]

You've found a minor inconsistency in my uses of a completely inadequate image, wow.

The fact you cannot show the supposed steel core columns in the core area on 9-11 is also an inconsistency, a major one. The fact that you can show no independent verification of your claims is huge. In fact that you continue without evidence proves you are acting as an agent executing an agenda.

no jackass. he didnt find a minor inconsistancy. he proved your entire concrete core is a hoax. you simply make shit up as you go along. look at the fuckiing picture again and tell us all where your 17 feet of concrete core wall is!!!!

 

[Christophera]

He proved the image is so inadequate without other images showing more or the plans that it cannot be analysed.

He also proved, as you do, that you ignore violations of law enabling the deprivation of information. When you do that you align with the traitors.

 

[DiveCon]

He proved the image is so inadequate without other images showing more or the plans that it cannot be analysed.

He also proved, as you do, that you ignore violations of law enabling the deprivation of information. When you do that you align with the traitors.

you have proven yourself inadequate

 

[Christophera]

Your misprision of treason is inadequate to conceal it. It is exposed and disclosed to a US district court judge.

Title 18, part I, chapter 115, §2382

 

[Fizz]

Your misprision of treason is inadequate to conceal it. It is exposed and disclosed to a US district court judge.

Title 18, part I, chapter 115, §2382

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJZsVbCu4Hk&feature=fvw]YouTube - Idiotic Woman at Santa Cruz City Council[/ame]

 

[Christophera]

Reminds me of gumjob trying to describe steel core columns in the core area with no evidence.

FEMA deception

 

[Fizz]

Reminds me of gumjob trying to describe steel core columns in the core area with no evidence.

FEMA deception

this is what a concrete core looks like....

and this is what the steel core of the WTC looks like.

 

[Fizz]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB6xdCS9NJU]YouTube - 9/11: Why They Fell pt 2[/ame]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqDTEZIdg7g&feature=PlayList&p=A6382FD1025BACE9&index=62]YouTube - WTC 1&2 UNIQUE DESIGN.[/ame]


"For a combination of historical, cultural and economic reasons, tall, concrete-core buildings dedicated to office use are unusual in New York, where builders prefer the wallboard-enclosed cores with steel frames that Mr. Robertson pioneered in the trade center."
New York Timeshere


"Engineers are still debating whether the Twin Towers' unique structure should be credited for surviving the initial crashes, or blamed for collapsing in the subsequent fires, or both. But the point is that it was unique, utilizing closely spaced columns connected to a steel core by relatively lightweight floor trusses. "
Newsweek. Newsweek.com


"Each of the towers, more than 200 ft. wide on each side, contained a central steel core surrounded by open office space. Eighteen-inch steel tubes ran vertically along the outside, providing much of the support for the building"
Time Magazine.TIME.com


"The twin towers were the first supertall buildings designed without any masonry. Worried that the intense air pressure created by the building's high speed elevators might buckle conventional shafts, engineers designed a solution using a drywall system fixed to the reinforced steel core. "
engineering.comENGINEERING.com


"Like many high-rises built in the 1960s, the Twin Towers were constructed with their weight distributed between a hollow steel core (containing services like elevators) and steel columns around the perimeter, maximizing open floor space. Many believe the older high-rise design, in which steel columns are often encased in concrete, is more fire resistant.

“A lot of people have told me, ‘You should have used more concrete in the structure,’” said Robertson. However, his chart plotting the strength of steel vs. concrete at various temperatures showed that at the incendiary levels that raged in the towers, the two materials become similarly weak."
Berkeley 04.17.2002 - World Trade Center remembered


"Yamasaki has switched from concrete, his favorite medium, to steel because of the sheer height of the towers, and instead of having the weight of the structure carried by the frame and the elevator core, the great steel columns of the exterior walls will support it."
Time Magazine article from 1964!! Art: Onward & Upward - TIME

 

[Liability]

YouTube - 9/11: Why They Fell pt 2


YouTube - WTC 1&2 UNIQUE DESIGN.


"For a combination of historical, cultural and economic reasons, tall, concrete-core buildings dedicated to office use are unusual in New York, where builders prefer the wallboard-enclosed cores with steel frames that Mr. Robertson pioneered in the trade center."
New York Timeshere


"Engineers are still debating whether the Twin Towers' unique structure should be credited for surviving the initial crashes, or blamed for collapsing in the subsequent fires, or both. But the point is that it was unique, utilizing closely spaced columns connected to a steel core by relatively lightweight floor trusses. "
Newsweek. Newsweek.com


"Each of the towers, more than 200 ft. wide on each side, contained a central steel core surrounded by open office space. Eighteen-inch steel tubes ran vertically along the outside, providing much of the support for the building"
Time Magazine.TIME.com


"The twin towers were the first supertall buildings designed without any masonry. Worried that the intense air pressure created by the building's high speed elevators might buckle conventional shafts, engineers designed a solution using a drywall system fixed to the reinforced steel core. "
engineering.comENGINEERING.com


"Like many high-rises built in the 1960s, the Twin Towers were constructed with their weight distributed between a hollow steel core (containing services like elevators) and steel columns around the perimeter, maximizing open floor space. Many believe the older high-rise design, in which steel columns are often encased in concrete, is more fire resistant.

“A lot of people have told me, ‘You should have used more concrete in the structure,’” said Robertson. However, his chart plotting the strength of steel vs. concrete at various temperatures showed that at the incendiary levels that raged in the towers, the two materials become similarly weak."
Berkeley 04.17.2002 - World Trade Center remembered


"Yamasaki has switched from concrete, his favorite medium, to steel because of the sheer height of the towers, and instead of having the weight of the structure carried by the frame and the elevator core, the great steel columns of the exterior walls will support it."
Time Magazine article from 1964!! Art: Onward & Upward - TIME

EXCELLENT POST!

I particularly liked: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqDTEZIdg7g&feature=PlayList&p=A6382FD1025BACE9&index=62]YouTube - WTC 1&2 UNIQUE DESIGN.[/ame]

What will the Troofers say about THAT?

 

[Gamolon]

He proved the image is so inadequate without other images showing more or the plans that it cannot be analysed.

He also proved, as you do, that you ignore violations of law enabling the deprivation of information. When you do that you align with the traitors.

No.

What I proved is that you have NO CLUE as to what pictures show. You make shit up all the time and stand by it until someone comes along and straightens you out.

Your entire theory is based upon things you think are correct until we blow it up in your face. Your entire theory is based upon incorrect assumptions, contradictions, and mistakes. Until you can rectify them, your theory is nothing more than a pile of shit.

 

[Christophera]

He proved the image is so inadequate without other images showing more or the plans that it cannot be analysed.

He also proved, as you do, that you ignore violations of law enabling the deprivation of information. When you do that you align with the traitors.

No.

What I proved is that you have NO CLUE as to what pictures show.

Your attempt to inspire people to utilize cognitive distortions.

1. All or nothing thinking: Things are placed in black or white categories.
2. Over generalization: Single event is viewed as continuous.
3. Mental filter: Details in life (positive or negative) are amplified in importance while opposite is rejected.
4. Minimizing: Perceiving one or opposite experiences (positive or negative) as absolute and maintaining singularity of belief to one or the other.

The fact is that without plans and poor photos, all taken by guiliani, which you and the other agents logically refuse to acknowledge but is verifiable, no analysis of photos of construction are worth a great deal UNLESS they are consistent with 9-11 images showing the internal structures as they are coming apart.

Meaning you have no evidence and all of your information is misrepresentation if not out right fabricated.

You are a proven photoshopper.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/2012579-post3749.html

http://www.usmessageboard.com/2061163-post4124.html

http://www.usmessageboard.com/2073715-post4280.html

 

[DiveCon]

He proved the image is so inadequate without other images showing more or the plans that it cannot be analysed.

He also proved, as you do, that you ignore violations of law enabling the deprivation of information. When you do that you align with the traitors.

No.

What I proved is that you have NO CLUE as to what pictures show.

Your attempt to inspire people to utilize cognitive distortions.

1. All or nothing thinking: Things are placed in black or white categories.
2. Over generalization: Single event is viewed as continuous.
3. Mental filter: Details in life (positive or negative) are amplified in importance while opposite is rejected.
4. Minimizing: Perceiving one or opposite experiences (positive or negative) as absolute and maintaining singularity of belief to one or the other.

The fact is that without plans and poor photos, all taken by guiliani, which you and the other agents logically refuse to acknowledge but is verifiable, no analysis of photos of construction are worth a great deal UNLESS they are consistent with 9-11 images showing the internal structures as they are coming apart.

Meaning you have no evidence and all of your information is misrepresentation if not out right fabricated.

You are a proven photoshopper.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/2012579-post3749.html

http://www.usmessageboard.com/2061163-post4124.html

http://www.usmessageboard.com/2073715-post4280.html

you are a proven dipshit and liar

 

[Gamolon]

Meaning you have no evidence and all of your information is misrepresentation if not out right fabricated.[/QUO

Like your theory.

Completely fabricated.

 

[DiveCon]

Meaning you have no evidence and all of your information is misrepresentation if not out right fabricated.

Like your theory.

Completely fabricated.

actually, thats just more TPP
he fabricates everything and has no actual proof of anything