Finally, and enlisted man to become Secretary of Defense

[rdean]

McCain and his little friend Lindsey both looked like fools in attacking Hagel.

The sure did. Crazy.

 

[rdean]

Democrats don't care about a person's qualifications or what they did in the past... Or even if they would be the right person for the job, as long as they have D next to their name anyone will do

I mean they just put in a traitor to the military and the men and women he served with, as Sec. of State

What did Hagel do that disqualifies him from this position, in your estimation...pick up arms in service of his country?

how about homophobic, anti-woman, anti abortion and murky statements as to the "Jewish lobby"? or does that get a pass now from the democrats? So, the litmus test on those topics gets a pass now that hes nominated by obama?

and thats aside from his inability to articulate , even knowing he was going in front of a committee, answers to questions he had to know were coming, like the mush mouth mulligans he took on the "Iranian containment" answers?

People change. Look at the right wing. It's become way more extreme.

 

[Mad Scientist]

The guy looks like he's way in over his head. “If Confirmed, I Intend To Learn About The Defense Department”.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y6-EKoUIfyQ]Hagel: If Confirmed, I Intend To Learn About The Defense Department - YouTube[/ame]

 

[MarcATL]

As for claims that he's got a shaky position toward Israel, he said "I've never voted against Israel ever in the 12 years I was in the Senate."
Two former committee chairmen -- Democrat Sam Nunn and Republican John Warner -- introduced and endorsed the nominee at the top of the hearing.
If confirmed, Hagel, a decorated Vietnam combat veteran, would be the first enlisted man and first Vietnam veteran to serve as defense secretary.

Hagel faces barrage of criticism during tense confirmation hearing | Fox News

“I have one fundamental question that I asked myself on every vote I took, every decision made: Was the policy worthy of the men and women that we were sending into battle and surely to their deaths?” Hagel told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

“I saw it from the bottom. I saw what happens. I saw the consequences and the suffering and horror of war,” said Hagel, who was wounded twice as an infantryman in Vietnam.

That, he said, is why he opposed President George W. Bush’s 2007 surge of troops into Iraq, opposed Obama’s 2009 surge of troops into Afghanistan, and now opposes U.S. military intervention in Syria.

“I always ask the question: Is this going to be worth the sacrifice? Because there will be sacrifices,” Hagel said.

Chuck Hagel, an enlisted man as Secretary of Defense?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_UlMFU0iHs

Everyone knows it's a lie. No wonder McCain hates Hagel.

We all know Bush Sr. was an officer during WWII, Head of the CIA, Vice President and President. He beat back Saddam. You can bet he put satellites over Iraq and plenty of spies. With his background, he wouldn't do anything else. Anyone have any video of him agreeing with his son over WMDs?

More than half Republicans believe Obama was born in a different country and Iraq had WMD's.

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~benv/files/poll responses by party ID.pdf

Hagel never wanted to invade Iraq. And he was right.

Yep, and I hope he DOES cut the heck out of that WASTEFUL department.

Hopefully, no more Haliburton or Black Water nonsense.

It's been a long time coming.

I hear you. The fact that soldiers in Iraq were electrocuted living in sub standard housing built by Halliburton who made literally billions is a disgrace and a scandal. And Republicans crying they are always blamed for everything when they refuse to stand against their treacherous leadership is sickening. I still can't believe 9 billion in cash disappeared in one day. What was it even doing over there?

Here's the truly EFFED-up part about it.

Not ONE of these GD RWers, so-called and self-proclaimed "Conservatives" said a thing about it. Not a peep. Not. a. word.

This is why, I, and clearly many Americans, last November SOUNDLY REJECTED their nonsense.

It's really kinda sickening when you think about it.

 

[MarcATL]

As for claims that he's got a shaky position toward Israel, he said "I've never voted against Israel ever in the 12 years I was in the Senate."
Two former committee chairmen -- Democrat Sam Nunn and Republican John Warner -- introduced and endorsed the nominee at the top of the hearing.
If confirmed, Hagel, a decorated Vietnam combat veteran, would be the first enlisted man and first Vietnam veteran to serve as defense secretary.

Hagel faces barrage of criticism during tense confirmation hearing | Fox News

“I have one fundamental question that I asked myself on every vote I took, every decision made: Was the policy worthy of the men and women that we were sending into battle and surely to their deaths?” Hagel told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

“I saw it from the bottom. I saw what happens. I saw the consequences and the suffering and horror of war,” said Hagel, who was wounded twice as an infantryman in Vietnam.

That, he said, is why he opposed President George W. Bush’s 2007 surge of troops into Iraq, opposed Obama’s 2009 surge of troops into Afghanistan, and now opposes U.S. military intervention in Syria.

“I always ask the question: Is this going to be worth the sacrifice? Because there will be sacrifices,” Hagel said.

Chuck Hagel, an enlisted man as Secretary of Defense?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_UlMFU0iHs

Everyone knows it's a lie. No wonder McCain hates Hagel.

We all know Bush Sr. was an officer during WWII, Head of the CIA, Vice President and President. He beat back Saddam. You can bet he put satellites over Iraq and plenty of spies. With his background, he wouldn't do anything else. Anyone have any video of him agreeing with his son over WMDs?

More than half Republicans believe Obama was born in a different country and Iraq had WMD's.

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~benv/files/poll responses by party ID.pdf

Hagel never wanted to invade Iraq. And he was right.

He'll be confirmed, but its unfortunate. I don't want a Secretary of Defense who believes that the Persian Gulf and the Middle East would be more secure today if SADDAM HUSSIAN was still in power in Iraq.

The United States and its allies went to war with Saddam in 1991 because of his unprovoked invasion of Kuwait. Afterwards, US strategy while leaving Saddam in place put heavy international sanctions on Saddam and required Saddam to disarm of his WMD programs. Saddam cooperated early on, but in the mid to late 90s began to block and harrass inspectors and not cooperate. In addition, by 2000 many countries began to ignore the sanctions and Saddam used his oil wealth to bribe countries, organizations and individuals to start looking the other way. Saddam made Billions of dollars in black market oil in 2000, 2001, and 2002. Containment, the only option other than regime change at that point, had fallen apart.

The invasion in 2003 to remove Saddam was a necessity because containment had collapsed as well as the reports of WMD. But its important to mention that all US activity since the end of the 1991 GULF WAR was about PREVENTING SADDAM from getting WMD. Military force was also an option in accomplishing that task.

Only a fool would believe that the United States should have waited to invade Iraq and remove Saddam until he actually had WMD. WMD that could be used on US forces as they entered the country as well as civilians in Iraq and other countries in the region. Again, the objective is to PREVENT Saddam from getting WMD, not wait until he has it before doing something!


Hopefully are defense and foreign policy establishment will be able to weather the Kerry and Hagels weakness on defense and foreign policy issues over the next four years.

I don't normally support term limits for politicians, but I'm glad their in place to get Obama out in four years!

What you are saying is ridiculous. Saddam was defeated. The youth of his country was killed during Desert Storm and an 8 year war with Iran.

The guy was barely hanging on. What ever happened to "common sense" in the right wing?

It drew it's last breath when King Reagan drew his.

 

[S.J.]

This is why, I, and clearly many Americans, last November SOUNDLY REJECTED their nonsense.

It's really kinda sickening when you think about it.

No, what you rejected was the concept of working for a living. You voted for the guy who offered more free stuff.

 

[MarcATL]

This is why, I, and clearly many Americans, last November SOUNDLY REJECTED their nonsense.

It's really kinda sickening when you think about it.

No, what you rejected was the concept of working for a living. You voted for the guy who offered more free stuff.

Oh, back to the old "they wanted more free stuff" nonsense that Romney pushed after he got trounced.

Yawl keep dat up now...yuh heah!?!?

 

[S.J.]

This is why, I, and clearly many Americans, last November SOUNDLY REJECTED their nonsense.

It's really kinda sickening when you think about it.

No, what you rejected was the concept of working for a living. You voted for the guy who offered more free stuff.

Oh, back to the old "they wanted more free stuff" nonsense that Romney pushed after he got trounced.

Yawl keep dat up now...yuh heah!?!?

Deny it all ya want, mo fo, but ya know it's da trufe. Dontcha?

 

[Lakhota]

More free stuff? I thought that nonsense was finally dead.

 

[S.J.]

More free stuff? I thought that nonsense was finally dead.

Think again.

 

[Lakhota]

Come on 2014...

 

[S.J.]

Come on 2014...

Come on secession.

 

[Lakhota]

Come on 2014...

Come on secession.

I agree. Sooner the better.

 

[S.J.]

You mean Chuck beat out Jane Fonda for the position?

 

[Stephanie]

Democrats don't care about a person's qualifications or what they did in the past... Or even if they would be the right person for the job, as long as they have D next to their name anyone will do

I mean they just put in a traitor to the military and the men and women he served with, as Sec. of State

"...they just put in a traitor to the military and the men and women he served with, as Sec. of State."?

Well, then you must be including all those Republicans who voted for Kerry's confirmation. The vote was 94 to 3.

yes them too

 

[rdean]

Come on 2014...

Come on secession.

If the Southern States seceded, they would have created the first brand new ignorant third world country of this century. What do they have going for them. Leading the nation in food stamps, high school drop outs, unemployment, people without health care.

They are like a dirty, bedbug ridden, drunk tenet "threatening" to leave.

 

[rdean]

The guy looks like he's way in over his head. “If Confirmed, I Intend To Learn About The Defense Department”.

Hagel: If Confirmed, I Intend To Learn About The Defense Department - YouTube

Bush invaded Iraq and didn't bother to LEARN anything about it. John McCain said Iran is training al Qaeda because he didn't bother to LEARN they were deadly enemies.

"LEARN" has become a dirty word for the Republican Party. It's something only "snobs" and "smart people" want to do.

 

[rdean]

You mean Chuck beat out Jane Fonda for the position?

Jane Fonda? Wow, you really are "reaching back".

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

More free stuff? I thought that nonsense was finally dead.

Sorry, the notion of "free stuff" is alive and well with the low information Obama Nation.

 

[Trajan]

how about homophobic, anti-woman, anti abortion and murky statements as to the "Jewish lobby"? or does that get a pass now from the democrats? So, the litmus test on those topics gets a pass now that hes nominated by obama?

Are we playing "How many generalisations can I get into one sentence?"..

Hagel will be good....

are we playing ignore the point because answering the question is inconvenient?

generalizations in that form are usually good enough, but then I assumed you and those wishing to engage in this topic knew the topic...my bad, I do apologize.
I thought you were up on the news here?

Do I need to catch you up all the way? do you need a primer on what I am even talking about? Do you need the litany of insensitive, hurtful, remarks verbatim?



Anyway, Good? really? at what? the guy is a mess.


looking at his performance yesterday I wonder what will/would he be good at? he was not prepared, at all, he could not provide answers to questions he should have anticipated and prepared for well before the hearings, he looked totally uncomfortable, unsure of himself amongst friends, he looked and came across as befuddled, off balance and needed an aid to, well here, catch up-

Perhaps one of the worst moments in a fairly bad day for Hagel came when even one of his apparent supporters, committee Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich., was forced to restate his position for him after Hagel twice misspoke about a critical issue: whether the Obama administration would accept mere “containment” of Iran’s nuclear program, rather than prevention of it. Hagel, handed a piece of paper, said, “I misspoke and said I supported the president’s position on containment. If I said that, I meant to say we don’t have a position on containment,” Hagel said. That’s when Levin interjected: “We do have a position on containment, and that is we do not favor containment.”


Is Chuck Hagel Failing? - NationalJournal.com