Flyers about women and Islam get people all up in arms

[sealybobo]

Pretending that Christians treat women like Islam treats women is a mental disease. MILLIONS of Muslim women are treated as slaves and second class peole no rights no property rights no freedom and you MORONS claim this is the same as Christians. Keep lying and ignoring reality, perhaps you won't become enslaved but your descendants will if you keep it up.

I'm a Muslim and what you said is untrue. Is like someone saying all americsn women are sluts, most Americans are fat, and shootings are everywhere. Oh and worst, Americans are the dumbest.

You make a good point. I bet in most Arabic households, women have some say in deciding what is done. They talk back to their husbands and he doesn't beat her ever.

It's like we hear the most extreme cases that happen in the middle east and we assume every household is the same way. That can't be possible. My buddy and his family came here from Iran and his parents are nothing like what we think arabic couples are like. She's not his possession. I'm sure she was like that even before they moved to the USA.

 

[sealybobo]

Since when is it ok in Christian America for women to have several partners before she chooses a husband? Pretty sure they believe in abstinence before marriage

It's only an issue if the left can score political points with a Republican First Lady. Other than that, most people mind their own business. Of course people have OPINIONS, but nobody FORCES anything.

You only have this opinion because it's the Republican president who has had several wives.

No, Republicans do not mind their own business. They minded Bill and Monica's business but don't seem to want to mind Trump and Stormy or Karen McDouglas business.

Trump used his power. He should have no escaped the Me Too movement.

 

[sealybobo]

FLYERS STATING “ISLAM IS RIGHT ABOUT WOMEN” CAUSES MEDIA TO HAVE A NARRATIVE CRISIS: “You think you can dance? Watch this.”

Islam isn’t particularly known for its fairness to women. In fact, it’s well known to be a society that treats them a second class and below, forbidding them to learn basic things such as reading and math. They’re used more like servants and breeding stock in many Islam dominated countries and are punished severely for violating any of the strict Sharia laws set for them.

This is a fact that is typically overlooked by a lot of the left, especially feminists. When it comes to Islam’s treatment of women, you’ll find many a blind eye among the social justice warriors who often go so far as to defend Islam as the “religion of peace” the left claims it is.

So when flyers began going up around Winchester, Massachusetts, that stated “Islam is right about women,” the outrage was present, but nobody wanted to say why.

But doesn’t the religious right say the same things about young women today? Since when is it ok in Christian America for women to have several partners before she chooses a husband? Pretty sure they believe in abstinence before marriage.

And look at our divorce rate and fatherless children?

Doesn’t the modern day conservative man believe he is the head of the home?

Why try to change the subject? I mean, granted, we aren't changing the world with this thread. But it seems like every time a topic like this about Islam comes up, 5 minutes don't pass before someone is changing the subject, or conplaining that we aren't having the same dicussion about christianity or the western world.

Why change the subject? Because the Subject is "Islam is right about Women"

The reason I bring up the American religious right is because I have heard them agree with Islam when it comes to women. They are sluts. Having pre marital sex. Getting abortions. Fatherlessness. Baby Mamas. Welfare moms. The destruction of the American family.

Islam and Conservatives agree when it comes to American women. Today they say we are living in Sodom and Gamora. No?

 

[irosie91]

Pretending that Christians treat women like Islam treats women is a mental disease. MILLIONS of Muslim women are treated as slaves and second class peole no rights no property rights no freedom and you MORONS claim this is the same as Christians. Keep lying and ignoring reality, perhaps you won't become enslaved but your descendants will if you keep it up.

I'm a Muslim and what you said is untrue. Is like someone saying all americsn women are sluts, most Americans are fat, and shootings are everywhere. Oh and worst, Americans are the dumbest.

You make a good point. I bet in most Arabic households, women have some say in deciding what is done. They talk back to their husbands and he doesn't beat her ever.

It's like we hear the most extreme cases that happen in the middle east and we assume every household is the same way. That can't be possible. My buddy and his family came here from Iran and his parents are nothing like what we think arabic couples are like. She's not his possession. I'm sure she was like that even before they moved to the USA.

BOOBOOB----Iranians AIN'T arabs-----NEVAH tell an Iranian that he is an
ARAB-----but if you do by mistake---DUCK-----he is likely to SPIT.

 

[sealybobo]

Pretending that Christians treat women like Islam treats women is a mental disease. MILLIONS of Muslim women are treated as slaves and second class peole no rights no property rights no freedom and you MORONS claim this is the same as Christians. Keep lying and ignoring reality, perhaps you won't become enslaved but your descendants will if you keep it up.

I'm a Muslim and what you said is untrue. Is like someone saying all americsn women are sluts, most Americans are fat, and shootings are everywhere. Oh and worst, Americans are the dumbest.

You make a good point. I bet in most Arabic households, women have some say in deciding what is done. They talk back to their husbands and he doesn't beat her ever.

It's like we hear the most extreme cases that happen in the middle east and we assume every household is the same way. That can't be possible. My buddy and his family came here from Iran and his parents are nothing like what we think arabic couples are like. She's not his possession. I'm sure she was like that even before they moved to the USA.

BOOBOOB----Iranians AIN'T arabs-----NEVAH tell an Iranian that he is an
ARAB-----but if you do by mistake---DUCK-----he is likely to SPIT.

Oh excuse me, persian.

Same thing really. Why, do you claim Iranians treat their women well?

Didn't a woman just dress up as a man in Iran to go see a soccer game and when she got caught, rather then be arrested and tortured, she lit herself on fire?

 

[irosie91]

Pretending that Christians treat women like Islam treats women is a mental disease. MILLIONS of Muslim women are treated as slaves and second class peole no rights no property rights no freedom and you MORONS claim this is the same as Christians. Keep lying and ignoring reality, perhaps you won't become enslaved but your descendants will if you keep it up.

I'm a Muslim and what you said is untrue. Is like someone saying all americsn women are sluts, most Americans are fat, and shootings are everywhere. Oh and worst, Americans are the dumbest.

You make a good point. I bet in most Arabic households, women have some say in deciding what is done. They talk back to their husbands and he doesn't beat her ever.

It's like we hear the most extreme cases that happen in the middle east and we assume every household is the same way. That can't be possible. My buddy and his family came here from Iran and his parents are nothing like what we think arabic couples are like. She's not his possession. I'm sure she was like that even before they moved to the USA.

BOOBOOB----Iranians AIN'T arabs-----NEVAH tell an Iranian that he is an
ARAB-----but if you do by mistake---DUCK-----he is likely to SPIT.

Oh excuse me, persian.

Same thing really. Why, do you claim Iranians treat their women well?

Didn't a woman just dress up as a man in Iran to go see a soccer game and when she got caught, rather then be arrested and tortured, she lit herself on fire?

darling booboo------Iranians ain't AYATOILETS -------Iranian men are AFRAID
of their wives------ask our very own cyberbuddie on this board DANI

 

[sealybobo]

Pretending that Christians treat women like Islam treats women is a mental disease. MILLIONS of Muslim women are treated as slaves and second class peole no rights no property rights no freedom and you MORONS claim this is the same as Christians. Keep lying and ignoring reality, perhaps you won't become enslaved but your descendants will if you keep it up.

I'm a Muslim and what you said is untrue. Is like someone saying all americsn women are sluts, most Americans are fat, and shootings are everywhere. Oh and worst, Americans are the dumbest.

You make a good point. I bet in most Arabic households, women have some say in deciding what is done. They talk back to their husbands and he doesn't beat her ever.

It's like we hear the most extreme cases that happen in the middle east and we assume every household is the same way. That can't be possible. My buddy and his family came here from Iran and his parents are nothing like what we think arabic couples are like. She's not his possession. I'm sure she was like that even before they moved to the USA.

BOOBOOB----Iranians AIN'T arabs-----NEVAH tell an Iranian that he is an
ARAB-----but if you do by mistake---DUCK-----he is likely to SPIT.

Oh excuse me, persian.

Same thing really. Why, do you claim Iranians treat their women well?

Didn't a woman just dress up as a man in Iran to go see a soccer game and when she got caught, rather then be arrested and tortured, she lit herself on fire?

darling booboo------Iranians ain't AYATOILETS -------Iranian men are AFRAID
of their wives------ask our very own cyberbuddie on this board DANI

My buddies dad is afraid of his wife too so I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying Iran doesn't treat women right either

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — An Iranian woman detained for dressing as a man to sneak into a soccer stadium to watch a match has died after setting herself on fire upon learning she could spend six months in prison, semi-official news outlets reported Tuesday.

The self-immolation death of 29-year-old Sahar Khodayari has shocked Iranian officials and the public, becoming an immediate hashtag trend across social media in the Islamic Republic.

It also comes as FIFA is working with Iranian authorities to overcome a ban on women entering stadiums for men’s games, a ban in place since the country’s 1979 Islamic Revolution. FIFA wants the issue resolved before Oct. 10 when Iran — the top-ranked team in Asia — hosts its first home World Cup qualifier against Cambodia.

“FIFA convey our condolences to the family and friends of Sahar and reiterate our calls on the Iranian authorities to ensure the freedom and safety of any women engaged in this legitimate fight to end the stadium ban for women in Iran,” FIFA said in a statement.

She had just learned she could be tried by a Revolutionary Court in Iran and be put in prison for six months, her father told the website.

In March, Khodayari tried to sneak into Tehran’s Azadi Stadium to watch her favorite team, Esteghlal, take on the United Arab Emirates team Al Ain. As in other matches, she disguised herself as a man by wearing a blue wig and a long overcoat, gaining the nickname the “Blue Girl.” However, police arrested her after an altercation and detained her.

She spent three nights in jail before being released pending the court case. She reportedly returned to the court to retrieve her seized mobile phone and heard she could face prison time.

Former Bayern Munich midfielder Ali Karimi — who played 127 matches for Iran and has been a vocal advocate of ending the ban on women — urged Iranians in a tweet to boycott soccer stadiums to protest Khodayari’s death.

Iranian-Armenian soccer player Andranik “Ando” Teymourian, the first Christian to be the captain of Iran’s national squad and also an Esteghlal player, said in a tweet that one of Tehran’s major soccer stadiums should be named after Khodayari “in the future.”

Female lawmaker Parvaneh Salahshouri called Khodayari “Iran’s Girl” and tweeted: “We are all responsible.”

There was no report on Khodayari’s death from Iranian state media, nor its prominent semi-official news agencies. The conservative Shafaqna news agency acknowledged her death in a brief item Tuesday, noting that the case had drawn international attention and caused “counterrevolutionary media” to cry over the case.

FIFA has been trying to push Iran to allow women in for matches. A partial exception came in November when hundreds of Iranian women, who were separated from male supporters, were allowed into the Azadi Stadium in Tehran to watch the Asian Champions League final.

However, local matches have continued the restriction. Volleyball, another popular sport, similarly sees officials bar women from attending men’s games in the capital, Tehran, though women were allowed in some matches in other Iranian cities.

Hard-liners and traditional Shiite clerics, citing their own interpretation of Islamic law, believe in segregating men and women at public events, as well as keeping women out of men’s sports.

However, that has drawn criticism from human rights activists abroad, as well as at home.

“The stadium ban is not written into law or regulation but is ruthlessly enforced by the country’s authorities,” wrote Mindy Worden, the director of global initiatives at Human Rights Watch.

She added that Khodayari’s suicide underscores “the need for Iran to end its ban on women attending sports matches — and the urgency for regulating bodies like FIFA to enforce its own human rights rules.”

Amnesty International separately said that as far as it knows, “Iran is the only country in the world that stops and punishes women” seeking to enter soccer stadiums. Saudi Arabia, a longtime holdout, recently started allowing women to attend matches under a push from the murderer Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

“What happened to Sahar Khodayari is heart-breaking and exposes the impact of the Iranian authorities’ appalling contempt for women’s rights in the country,” said Philip Luther, Amnesty’s Middle East and North Africa research and advocacy director.

“Her only ‘crime’ was being a woman in a country where women face discrimination that is entrenched in law and plays out in the most horrific ways imaginable in every area of their lives, even sports,” Luther added.

 

[irosie91]

I'm a Muslim and what you said is untrue. Is like someone saying all americsn women are sluts, most Americans are fat, and shootings are everywhere. Oh and worst, Americans are the dumbest.

You make a good point. I bet in most Arabic households, women have some say in deciding what is done. They talk back to their husbands and he doesn't beat her ever.

It's like we hear the most extreme cases that happen in the middle east and we assume every household is the same way. That can't be possible. My buddy and his family came here from Iran and his parents are nothing like what we think arabic couples are like. She's not his possession. I'm sure she was like that even before they moved to the USA.

BOOBOOB----Iranians AIN'T arabs-----NEVAH tell an Iranian that he is an
ARAB-----but if you do by mistake---DUCK-----he is likely to SPIT.

Oh excuse me, persian.

Same thing really. Why, do you claim Iranians treat their women well?

Didn't a woman just dress up as a man in Iran to go see a soccer game and when she got caught, rather then be arrested and tortured, she lit herself on fire?

darling booboo------Iranians ain't AYATOILETS -------Iranian men are AFRAID
of their wives------ask our very own cyberbuddie on this board DANI

My buddies dad is afraid of his wife too so I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying Iran doesn't treat women right either

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — An Iranian woman detained for dressing as a man to sneak into a soccer stadium to watch a match has died after setting herself on fire upon learning she could spend six months in prison, semi-official news outlets reported Tuesday.

The self-immolation death of 29-year-old Sahar Khodayari has shocked Iranian officials and the public, becoming an immediate hashtag trend across social media in the Islamic Republic.

It also comes as FIFA is working with Iranian authorities to overcome a ban on women entering stadiums for men’s games, a ban in place since the country’s 1979 Islamic Revolution. FIFA wants the issue resolved before Oct. 10 when Iran — the top-ranked team in Asia — hosts its first home World Cup qualifier against Cambodia.

“FIFA convey our condolences to the family and friends of Sahar and reiterate our calls on the Iranian authorities to ensure the freedom and safety of any women engaged in this legitimate fight to end the stadium ban for women in Iran,” FIFA said in a statement.

She had just learned she could be tried by a Revolutionary Court in Iran and be put in prison for six months, her father told the website.

In March, Khodayari tried to sneak into Tehran’s Azadi Stadium to watch her favorite team, Esteghlal, take on the United Arab Emirates team Al Ain. As in other matches, she disguised herself as a man by wearing a blue wig and a long overcoat, gaining the nickname the “Blue Girl.” However, police arrested her after an altercation and detained her.

She spent three nights in jail before being released pending the court case. She reportedly returned to the court to retrieve her seized mobile phone and heard she could face prison time.

Former Bayern Munich midfielder Ali Karimi — who played 127 matches for Iran and has been a vocal advocate of ending the ban on women — urged Iranians in a tweet to boycott soccer stadiums to protest Khodayari’s death.

Iranian-Armenian soccer player Andranik “Ando” Teymourian, the first Christian to be the captain of Iran’s national squad and also an Esteghlal player, said in a tweet that one of Tehran’s major soccer stadiums should be named after Khodayari “in the future.”

Female lawmaker Parvaneh Salahshouri called Khodayari “Iran’s Girl” and tweeted: “We are all responsible.”

There was no report on Khodayari’s death from Iranian state media, nor its prominent semi-official news agencies. The conservative Shafaqna news agency acknowledged her death in a brief item Tuesday, noting that the case had drawn international attention and caused “counterrevolutionary media” to cry over the case.

FIFA has been trying to push Iran to allow women in for matches. A partial exception came in November when hundreds of Iranian women, who were separated from male supporters, were allowed into the Azadi Stadium in Tehran to watch the Asian Champions League final.

However, local matches have continued the restriction. Volleyball, another popular sport, similarly sees officials bar women from attending men’s games in the capital, Tehran, though women were allowed in some matches in other Iranian cities.

Hard-liners and traditional Shiite clerics, citing their own interpretation of Islamic law, believe in segregating men and women at public events, as well as keeping women out of men’s sports.

However, that has drawn criticism from human rights activists abroad, as well as at home.

“The stadium ban is not written into law or regulation but is ruthlessly enforced by the country’s authorities,” wrote Mindy Worden, the director of global initiatives at Human Rights Watch.

She added that Khodayari’s suicide underscores “the need for Iran to end its ban on women attending sports matches — and the urgency for regulating bodies like FIFA to enforce its own human rights rules.”

Amnesty International separately said that as far as it knows, “Iran is the only country in the world that stops and punishes women” seeking to enter soccer stadiums. Saudi Arabia, a longtime holdout, recently started allowing women to attend matches under a push from the murderer Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

“What happened to Sahar Khodayari is heart-breaking and exposes the impact of the Iranian authorities’ appalling contempt for women’s rights in the country,” said Philip Luther, Amnesty’s Middle East and North Africa research and advocacy director.

“Her only ‘crime’ was being a woman in a country where women face discrimination that is entrenched in law and plays out in the most horrific ways imaginable in every area of their lives, even sports,” Luther added.

BOOBOO dear----I will explain-----here it is >>>> islam is the WORSHIP OF
AN ARAB. ---to wit muhummad. The religion was IMPOSED on Iranians----
and deep down----THEY HATE IT. They hate it so much that when they hear
Arabic spoken----they WINCE.-----but they sing-song the silly few lines that
muslims repeat over and over and over........ in the mosques. How do I know?
I have interacted with IRANIANS for more than 50 years. Of course there are some Iranians who are "religious" -----and impressed with the Arabian culture foisted upon them-------and somehow THOSE people got control of Iran. A personal anecdote-------Hebrew---of which I have a minimal expertise-----is like
Arabic-----the same way Spanish is like English. THUS I do understand a few words here and there---------Iranians I knew long ago were convinced -----that I AM FLUENT IN ARABIC------the language upon which they spit. Iranians hate "arab" so much that they even spit when they hear Arabic music

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Muslim men are no doubt worse to their women but women are still fighting for equality here at home.

So people in glass houses should not throw stones.

Utter nonsense. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. And our state of affairs is clearly superior and would be a step up for them.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why change the subject? Because the Subject is "Islam is right about Women"

The reason I bring up the American religious righ

...is whataboutism. That is not helpful. In fact, you then become part of the problem.

 

[Issa]

I'm a Muslim

Great! We could use your input.

So, do you believe women should be forced, under threat, to wear traditional headdresses?

If not...how do you square that with the holy texts of Islam? Do you simply write those parts off as archaic and unnecessary?

No woman should be forces to wear a headscarf....I've know thousands of women and none were forced 56 Muslim countries the only 2 that do are Saudi Arabia and Iran. There is a recommendation in the Koran to dreaa modestly but no obligation just like in the bible and the Torah.

 

[Issa]

Pretending that Christians treat women like Islam treats women is a mental disease. MILLIONS of Muslim women are treated as slaves and second class peole no rights no property rights no freedom and you MORONS claim this is the same as Christians. Keep lying and ignoring reality, perhaps you won't become enslaved but your descendants will if you keep it up.

I'm a Muslim and what you said is untrue. Is like someone saying all americsn women are sluts, most Americans are fat, and shootings are everywhere. Oh and worst, Americans are the dumbest.

You make a good point. I bet in most Arabic households, women have some say in deciding what is done. They talk back to their husbands and he doesn't beat her ever.

It's like we hear the most extreme cases that happen in the middle east and we assume every household is the same way. That can't be possible. My buddy and his family came here from Iran and his parents are nothing like what we think arabic couples are like. She's not his possession. I'm sure she was like that even before they moved to the USA.

True what you said most Americans have no clue about other cultures, they judge based on movies and news.
How many americans know that muslim countries had 8 female presidents ? While the US never and is not ready for a female president.

 

[irosie91]

Pretending that Christians treat women like Islam treats women is a mental disease. MILLIONS of Muslim women are treated as slaves and second class peole no rights no property rights no freedom and you MORONS claim this is the same as Christians. Keep lying and ignoring reality, perhaps you won't become enslaved but your descendants will if you keep it up.

I'm a Muslim and what you said is untrue. Is like someone saying all americsn women are sluts, most Americans are fat, and shootings are everywhere. Oh and worst, Americans are the dumbest.

You make a good point. I bet in most Arabic households, women have some say in deciding what is done. They talk back to their husbands and he doesn't beat her ever.

It's like we hear the most extreme cases that happen in the middle east and we assume every household is the same way. That can't be possible. My buddy and his family came here from Iran and his parents are nothing like what we think arabic couples are like. She's not his possession. I'm sure she was like that even before they moved to the USA.

True what you said most Americans have no clue about other cultures, they judge based on movies and news.
How many americans know that muslim countries had 8 female presidents ? While the US never and is not ready for a female president.

There is no question that Americans, in general, are very ignorant of "other cultures" HOWEVER, that ignorance does not come close to the UTTER
FILTH which is actively and aggressively inculcated into the minds of muslims
regarding "other cultures" As to treatment of women, I am not an isolationist
but in this one, regard my response to my fellow americans is "STAY OUT
OF IT" My acquaintance with this issue is not from the movies or the
newspapers. In all cultures, women hold power. The problems (which are
real) that muslim women face is----THEIR PROBLEM. It is their culture
and their religion. There are muslim women in the world working on the issues of the utter FILTH of shariah law. In the US, OF COURSE, women who wish to escape atrocities like "honor killings" and FGM should be supported and
protected by US. Americans need to understand that the horrors often
"POINTED OUT" are real but actually supported even by muslim women as
THEIR RELIGION. MOST OF ALL-----Americans should know-----Islamic claims
of "equity" and "humanity" -----is BULLSHIT------but it is the bullshit that muslim
women support as ardently and deceitfully as do muslim men (not ALL, of course---just most)

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I've know thousands of women and none were forced 56 Muslim countries the only 2 that do are Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Oh, come on. It's not only laws forcing them. Its also threats. I should not have to make this correction. You know better.

 

[Issa]

I've know thousands of women and none were forced 56 Muslim countries the only 2 that do are Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Oh, come on. It's not only laws forcing them. Its also threats. I should not have to make this correction. You know better.

Ever lived or visited a Muslim country ?
Using your logic, people who never came to the US should think most Americans are fat and dumb.

 

[Godboy]

I've know thousands of women and none were forced 56 Muslim countries the only 2 that do are Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Oh, come on. It's not only laws forcing them. Its also threats. I should not have to make this correction. You know better.

Ever lived or visited a Muslim country ?
Using your logic, people who never came to the US should think most Americans are fat and dumb.

Quit being an apologist for awful cultures.

 

[Issa]

I've know thousands of women and none were forced 56 Muslim countries the only 2 that do are Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Oh, come on. It's not only laws forcing them. Its also threats. I should not have to make this correction. You know better.

Ever lived or visited a Muslim country ?
Using your logic, people who never came to the US should think most Americans are fat and dumb.

Quit being an apologist for awful cultures.

Your culture is better?

 

[badger2]

Xians also worked with Nazis: Operation Paper Clip

 

[Godboy]

I've know thousands of women and none were forced 56 Muslim countries the only 2 that do are Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Oh, come on. It's not only laws forcing them. Its also threats. I should not have to make this correction. You know better.

Ever lived or visited a Muslim country ?
Using your logic, people who never came to the US should think most Americans are fat and dumb.

Quit being an apologist for awful cultures.

Your culture is better?

Its SUPERIOR to muslim culture.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I've know thousands of women and none were forced 56 Muslim countries the only 2 that do are Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Oh, come on. It's not only laws forcing them. Its also threats. I should not have to make this correction. You know better.

Ever lived or visited a Muslim country ?
Using your logic, people who never came to the US should think most Americans are fat and dumb.

Irrelevant. Ever visit the Moon? No? You can still know some things about the Moon.

You are an apologist.