Former Prosecutor: Why I'm skeptical about Reade's sexual assault claim against Biden:

[Mac1958]

The Dems are somewhat painted into a corner on this one. That's what you get when you try to leverage everything for political gain. Wingers on both ends sure fail to grasp that one. Another one of their many shared characteristics.

That's the problem - sexual assault is politically weaponized.

Yup. Of course, pretty much EVERYTHING is at this point.

 

[Polishprince]

Biden should have good evidence to actually show where he was, just like he wanted from Kavanaugh.

? Reade can't remember the date. So how does he do that?

That's going to make it more difficult. Justice Kavanaugh had the same problem. And his situation was worse, Ford didn't even give the address in Montgomery County were the Gang Rape Parties were supposed to have been held.

Sleepy Joe should give a call to Kav and see how he was able to do it.

 

[Olde Europe]

That's the problem - sexual assault is politically weaponized.

The problem is sexual assault - provided it did actually happen. If it did not there arises the problem of weaponization of a mere accusation.

 

[Coyote]

That's the problem - sexual assault is politically weaponized.

The problem is sexual assault - provided it did actually happen. If it did not there arises the problem of weaponization of a mere accusation.

That is actually a lot more accurate.

 

[JoeB131]

Skepticism flies in the face of believe all women.

Only if you have no critical thinking skills... which apparently you lack.

 

[Polishprince]

Skepticism flies in the face of believe all women.

Only if you have no critical thinking skills... which apparently you lack.

The problem with calling this Tara Reade gal a liar, as the libs have done, is that she has no reason to lie.

None whatsoever. She's a loyal member of the Democrat Party, supports Sleepy Joe's policies. Biden , OTOH, has plenty of reason to lie here. The Democrat Party and Mr. Biden know that most Americans really don't like sex criminals that much. They saw what a bad reaction Harvey Weinstein got, even though he was a devout leftist. Ditto with Obama-supporter Cosby and Jerry Sandusky. If Biden did it, he'd be inclined to lie and say he didn't do it, because he knows that the American people are mostly anti-rape.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Expert explains how going from uncomfortable touching to vaginal penetration (both version told 27 years after the fact) damage Tara Reade's credibility..
Not to mention the people who say it didn't happen (in court the corroborators wouldn't be the only ones to take the stand,. In conservative message boards the contradictors aren't mentioned).

There are more reasons why Reade's dubious claim seems outlandish. Read here for more:

Why I'm skeptical about Reade's sexual assault claim against Biden: Ex-prosecutor

If we must blindly accept every allegation of sexual assault, the #MeToo movement is just a hit squad. And it's too important to be no more than that.

www.usatoday.com

Trump supporters accept accusations against Biden, curiously reject allegations against Trump even though he admitted sexual misconduct.

Really? When did thtis happen? Was it a dream or a nightmare?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Expert explains how going from uncomfortable touching to vaginal penetration (both version told 27 years after the fact) damage Tara Reade's credibility..
Not to mention the people who say it didn't happen (in court the corroborators wouldn't be the only ones to take the stand,. In conservative message boards the contradictors aren't mentioned).

There are more reasons why Reade's dubious claim seems outlandish. Read here for more:

Why I'm skeptical about Reade's sexual assault claim against Biden: Ex-prosecutor

If we must blindly accept every allegation of sexual assault, the #MeToo movement is just a hit squad. And it's too important to be no more than that.

www.usatoday.com

Sleepy Joe is entitled to his day in court, no doubt about it. A chance to explain himself and prove his innocence.

The charge of Forcible Rape is a serious one around here, Biden should have good evidence to actually show where he was, just like he wanted from Kavanaugh.

As far as this expert, they are certainly entitled to their opinion. But we need an IMPARTIAL jury assembled so that Reade can have a fair trial.

Remember this, Reade is a REGISTERED Democratic Party member. Her statements are against her interests as Mr. Biden is her party's only Presidential candidate and the cream of the crop on the Democrat side. If Biden is a rapist, that's bad news for her as it makes it less likely that the D's will prevail. Like it or not, there is a real Anti-Rape bias in this country

How can you have a trial when no law enforcement agency is even bothering to investigate because the statute of limitations has long passed?

 

[busybee01]

Expert explains how going from uncomfortable touching to vaginal penetration (both version told 27 years after the fact) damage Tara Reade's credibility..
Not to mention the people who say it didn't happen (in court the corroborators wouldn't be the only ones to take the stand,. In conservative message boards the contradictors aren't mentioned).

There are more reasons why Reade's dubious claim seems outlandish. Read here for more:

Why I'm skeptical about Reade's sexual assault claim against Biden: Ex-prosecutor

If we must blindly accept every allegation of sexual assault, the #MeToo movement is just a hit squad. And it's too important to be no more than that.

www.usatoday.com

Sleepy Joe is entitled to his day in court, no doubt about it. A chance to explain himself and prove his innocence.

The charge of Forcible Rape is a serious one around here, Biden should have good evidence to actually show where he was, just like he wanted from Kavanaugh.

As far as this expert, they are certainly entitled to their opinion. But we need an IMPARTIAL jury assembled so that Reade can have a fair trial.

Remember this, Reade is a REGISTERED Democratic Party member. Her statements are against her interests as Mr. Biden is her party's only Presidential candidate and the cream of the crop on the Democrat side. If Biden is a rapist, that's bad news for her as it makes it less likely that the D's will prevail. Like it or not, there is a real Anti-Rape bias in this country

She also is a Sanders supporter as well. That does not mean Biden is her candidate. Some Sanders supporters have refused to support Biden. There are too many inconsistencies in her story.

The bottom line is this. Trump has been accused of sexual assault by a dozen or so women. You didn't seem to worry about that. We are playing by your rules.

 

[busybee01]

Expert explains how going from uncomfortable touching to vaginal penetration (both version told 27 years after the fact) damage Tara Reade's credibility..
Not to mention the people who say it didn't happen (in court the corroborators wouldn't be the only ones to take the stand,. In conservative message boards the contradictors aren't mentioned).

There are more reasons why Reade's dubious claim seems outlandish. Read here for more:

Why I'm skeptical about Reade's sexual assault claim against Biden: Ex-prosecutor

If we must blindly accept every allegation of sexual assault, the #MeToo movement is just a hit squad. And it's too important to be no more than that.

www.usatoday.com

Sleepy Joe is entitled to his day in court, no doubt about it. A chance to explain himself and prove his innocence.

The charge of Forcible Rape is a serious one around here, Biden should have good evidence to actually show where he was, just like he wanted from Kavanaugh.

As far as this expert, they are certainly entitled to their opinion. But we need an IMPARTIAL jury assembled so that Reade can have a fair trial.

Remember this, Reade is a REGISTERED Democratic Party member. Her statements are against her interests as Mr. Biden is her party's only Presidential candidate and the cream of the crop on the Democrat side. If Biden is a rapist, that's bad news for her as it makes it less likely that the D's will prevail. Like it or not, there is a real Anti-Rape bias in this country

I don't think there were any witnesses to the alleged incident with Biden.

"According to the report, a classmate approached a US senator during the investigation to say he saw Kavanaugh expose himself to a female classmate at a party, thrusting his penis in her face."

The new Kavanaugh allegation is important because of what it says about the FBI

Agents never interviewed a potential witness for a report that sent Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.

www.vox.com

No direct witnesses, but there are hearsay witnesses, innuendo, as well as the statement of the victim- who is someone of high moral character. Why are you so anxious to condemn Tara Reade as a Liar without a scintilla of evidence to that effect?

Which hearsay. She has changed her story several times. There is no evidence that she is telling the truth.

 

[sakinago]

Expert explains how going from uncomfortable touching to vaginal penetration (both version told 27 years after the fact) damage Tara Reade's credibility..
Not to mention the people who say it didn't happen (in court the corroborators wouldn't be the only ones to take the stand,. In conservative message boards the contradictors aren't mentioned).

There are more reasons why Reade's dubious claim seems outlandish. Read here for more:

Why I'm skeptical about Reade's sexual assault claim against Biden: Ex-prosecutor

If we must blindly accept every allegation of sexual assault, the #MeToo movement is just a hit squad. And it's too important to be no more than that.

www.usatoday.com

Sleepy Joe is entitled to his day in court, no doubt about it. A chance to explain himself and prove his innocence.

The charge of Forcible Rape is a serious one around here, Biden should have good evidence to actually show where he was, just like he wanted from Kavanaugh.

As far as this expert, they are certainly entitled to their opinion. But we need an IMPARTIAL jury assembled so that Reade can have a fair trial.

Remember this, Reade is a REGISTERED Democratic Party member. Her statements are against her interests as Mr. Biden is her party's only Presidential candidate and the cream of the crop on the Democrat side. If Biden is a rapist, that's bad news for her as it makes it less likely that the D's will prevail. Like it or not, there is a real Anti-Rape bias in this country

I don't think there were any witnesses to the alleged incident with Biden.

"According to the report, a classmate approached a US senator during the investigation to say he saw Kavanaugh expose himself to a female classmate at a party, thrusting his penis in her face."

The new Kavanaugh allegation is important because of what it says about the FBI

Agents never interviewed a potential witness for a report that sent Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.

www.vox.com

No direct witnesses, but there are hearsay witnesses, innuendo, as well as the statement of the victim- who is someone of high moral character. Why are you so anxious to condemn Tara Reade as a Liar without a scintilla of evidence to that effect?

Which hearsay. She has changed her story several times. There is no evidence that she is telling the truth.

Plus, what was she wearing hmmm, might’ve had something to do with it

 

[whitehall]

A former prosecutor considers opinions from unidentified, unverified "people who say it didn't happen"? No wonder he is a former prosecutor.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Expert explains how going from uncomfortable touching to vaginal penetration (both version told 27 years after the fact) damage Tara Reade's credibility..
Not to mention the people who say it didn't happen (in court the corroborators wouldn't be the only ones to take the stand,. In conservative message boards the contradictors aren't mentioned).

There are more reasons why Reade's dubious claim seems outlandish. Read here for more:

Why I'm skeptical about Reade's sexual assault claim against Biden: Ex-prosecutor

If we must blindly accept every allegation of sexual assault, the #MeToo movement is just a hit squad. And it's too important to be no more than that.

www.usatoday.com

That didn’t matter one fucking bit concerning Kavannah, did it?

.

 

[JoeB131]

The problem with calling this Tara Reade gal a liar, as the libs have done, is that she has no reason to lie.

She has every reason to lie. She's a Bernie Supporter. The only way Bernie is viable at this point is if Joe Bows out.

The Democrat Party and Mr. Biden know that most Americans really don't like sex criminals that much.

Really, you all elected "Grab them by the Pussy" Trump.

That didn’t matter one fucking bit concerning Kavannah, did it?

Kavanaugh never really got investigated, so there's that.

 

[Olde Europe]

That is actually a lot more accurate.

Thanks - I would hope so.

The main point is, information on an actual sexual assault is a weapon handed to the other side by the perpetrator - and a weapon cannot possibly be weaponized. That said...

Having re-read the OP article, I am having some misgivings, as it seems to be following a very familiar pattern (albeit in a less egregious manner than many other instances thereof). What on earth, we should ask, has her praise for Russia to do with that alleged assault? Or her critical view of "traditional American democracy", for that matter? If she's infatuated with Putin, does that prove anything? Why mention any of that at all? Other than throwing anything at Reade in order to discredit her (and her allegation) in the eyes of readers who aren't really paying attention if non-pertinent nonsense is brought up.

At least the author avoided rummaging through Reade's past sex life - good on him. And yet, why isn't it established victims come forward on their own volition, according to their own timeline, when they are ready, not when self-righteous onlookers think the time is right? Why then should we assume Stern adds anything to the discussion by pointing to the delay? He writes movingly about victims' fortitude coming forward, even admitted he couldn't match it. Victims struggle for years and even decades with competing emotions and motives, and different motives winning out at different times might make the resulting behavior and statements seem erratic. That is to say, it is no surprise to find "contradictions". Stern should have kept that in mind more while writing his piece. Mind you, I still think the case is pretty strong, warts and all.

I found Reade's opinion piece, originally published here - since deleted - and preserved here. If I may suggest, give it a close read, paying attention to coherence and structure, and the kind of mind emerging from that thing. For I found it telling.

 

[Mac1958]

Pretty amazing watching the hardcore Left make an absolute mockery out of the Me Too, we-must-believe-the-woman narrative.

Just another example of why a person should do whatever they can to avoid being infected by a hardcore partisan ideology.

It makes people UGLY inside, and it oozes out into their behaviors.

 

[sakinago]

The problem with calling this Tara Reade gal a liar, as the libs have done, is that she has no reason to lie.

She has every reason to lie. She's a Bernie Supporter. The only way Bernie is viable at this point is if Joe Bows out.

The Democrat Party and Mr. Biden know that most Americans really don't like sex criminals that much.

Really, you all elected "Grab them by the Pussy" Trump.

That didn’t matter one fucking bit concerning Kavannah, did it?

Kavanaugh never really got investigated, so there's that.

Who Talked To The FBI In The Kavanaugh Case — And Who Didn't?

The FBI spoke with nine people as it looked into sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. He and Christine Blasey Ford apparently weren't among them.

www.npr.org

Again, the ability to selectively remove memories and insert delusions is amazing. Kavanaugh was investigated as thoroughly as a 30 year old case could be. I mean the whole hearing and investigation was the biggest news of the year. There is far more contemporaneous evidence in the Biden accusations than there is in the Kavanaugh, and I’m highly suspicious of the Biden accusations. But she does have her mom calling into Larry freaking King Live at the time wondering how her daughter should go about in the situation in vague terms granted, as well as a couple of friends from that time recalling her telling them. Again I’m very suspect of her story, the fact that it changed, and the timing couldn’t be more perfect for Bernie. But how differently the left is viewing this versus the Kavanaugh case is bonkers.

Ford, in the Kavanaugh case, had 2 pieces of non contemporaneous evidence, and the only contemporaneous from the time contradicted her. One piece of evidence was her “polygraph”, which was a single answer to a suspiciously worded question. Polygraphs have a mixture of many base questions and then question every possible aspect in every possible way of a situation. They only measure emotion, not deception. They are also subject to the interpretation of the polygraph operator, and any lawyer worth their salt is not going to proactively hire a polygrapher that’s going possibly hurt their case, just like they wouldn’t hire an expert witness that’d contradict them in court. The fact that Ford and company only released the smidgen they did is telling. Fords other piece of evidence was the marriage counseling session where she allegedly divulged to her husband the Kavanaugh story. The therapist had notes on this session. Again these notes were not released, very telling. I can understand not wanting your dirty laundry out in public. However, your talking about the master redactors in the fed. Fords attorney could’ve have easily come to an agreement on with the senate investigators on what should and shouldn’t be divulged, leaving only the pertinent info. If you’re trying to nab the guy who molested you, and is about to reach the pinnacle of any lawyer/judge career, in that highly controversial of a case...wouldn’t you want every piece of evidence at your disposal?

Both cases are highly suspect and very conveniently timed. The only difference is how the left is treating each one.

 

[Polishprince]

Expert explains how going from uncomfortable touching to vaginal penetration (both version told 27 years after the fact) damage Tara Reade's credibility..
Not to mention the people who say it didn't happen (in court the corroborators wouldn't be the only ones to take the stand,. In conservative message boards the contradictors aren't mentioned).

There are more reasons why Reade's dubious claim seems outlandish. Read here for more:

Why I'm skeptical about Reade's sexual assault claim against Biden: Ex-prosecutor

If we must blindly accept every allegation of sexual assault, the #MeToo movement is just a hit squad. And it's too important to be no more than that.

www.usatoday.com

Sleepy Joe is entitled to his day in court, no doubt about it. A chance to explain himself and prove his innocence.

The charge of Forcible Rape is a serious one around here, Biden should have good evidence to actually show where he was, just like he wanted from Kavanaugh.

As far as this expert, they are certainly entitled to their opinion. But we need an IMPARTIAL jury assembled so that Reade can have a fair trial.

Remember this, Reade is a REGISTERED Democratic Party member. Her statements are against her interests as Mr. Biden is her party's only Presidential candidate and the cream of the crop on the Democrat side. If Biden is a rapist, that's bad news for her as it makes it less likely that the D's will prevail. Like it or not, there is a real Anti-Rape bias in this country

She also is a Sanders supporter as well. That does not mean Biden is her candidate. Some Sanders supporters have refused to support Biden. There are too many inconsistencies in her story.

The bottom line is this. Trump has been accused of sexual assault by a dozen or so women. You didn't seem to worry about that. We are playing by your rules.

Crazy Bernie endorsed Sleepy Joe and ordered his devotees to toe the line and serve their new master.

 

[KGB]

Expert explains how going from uncomfortable touching to vaginal penetration (both version told 27 years after the fact) damage Tara Reade's credibility..
Not to mention the people who say it didn't happen (in court the corroborators wouldn't be the only ones to take the stand,. In conservative message boards the contradictors aren't mentioned).

There are more reasons why Reade's dubious claim seems outlandish. Read here for more:

Why I'm skeptical about Reade's sexual assault claim against Biden: Ex-prosecutor

If we must blindly accept every allegation of sexual assault, the #MeToo movement is just a hit squad. And it's too important to be no more than that.

www.usatoday.com

I'm not skeptical that there was probably something improper that happened. However, something that wasn't assault 30 years ago doesn't become assault 30 years later. The victim has rights but so does the accused.

I don't recall you saying that about Kavanaugh on these boards....hypocrite much?

And yeah, I'm pretty sure forcing yourself upon someone else was considered assault back then too...

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

The Dems are somewhat painted into a corner on this one.

That's what you get when you try to leverage everything for political gain.

Wingers on both ends sure fail to grasp that one.

Again, Stormy Mac keeps acting like this is something new.

Both sides have been pulling this shit since the 1990's. It's not going to ever stop being a thing.

Probably the Democrats needs to do a cost benefit analysis and realize that that this kind of weaponized feminism hurts them more than it helps. Republicans don't hold their own accountable no matter what they get caught doing. - Thomas, Kavanaugh, Trump.

But taking out Al Franken because he played grab-ass with a stripper on a USO tour? How does that help.

Justice Thomas....massive leftist lead investigations.

Kavanaugh.....massive leftist lead investigations.

Trump....massive leftist lead investigations.

Fingers Joe....nothing.

Franken stepped down on his own.

Any other not very well researched thoughts?