FOX News is talking about how government needs to plan the reopening of the economy...

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

...so now, we have Central Planning, a major feature of Communism.

And they've shut down the churches, another major feature of Communism.

What's next?

So are you saying Trump is a communist now? Gee, maybe he really is working for Putin

 

[ColonelAngus]

If you think it’s ok to have the economy shut down just because ORANGE MAN BAD, you really need to rethink your life.

Ears didn’t shut it down in 2009.

Obama didn't have 2000 people dying every day, nurses and doctors working in garbage bags, and mass graves in New York, either.

No Obama didn’t. People should be allowed to self police. Martial law is bullshit. Move to Cuba or Venezuela or NOKO. It is unconstitutional.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Was everyone tested for H1N1? Nope.

Did Obama say, “Anyone who wants a test can get one”, and then not deliver on that promise? Nope

He didn't know that the tests we had (the only one approved by the FDA) were defective. Nor did he think that every citizen would need a test.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Was everyone tested for H1N1? Nope.

And did we have enough H1N1 test kits for the entire country? Nope.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Was everyone tested for H1N1? Nope.

Did Obama say, “Anyone who wants a test can get one”, and then not deliver on that promise? Nope

He didn't know that the tests we had (the only one approved by the FDA) were defective. Nor did he think that every citizen would need a test.

I like how the reduced regulations to fast track test through FDA. Orange Man Bad dipshits are just counter to everything Trump does. They need him to be a Boogeyman. It makes them feel good.

Meanwhile we have Congress passing the largest wealth transfer in history without even a vote.

People are so stupid.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

yeah it about time to open the gates in airports - import tourists , spend their money and get rolling.

right after we clear the back log of corpses, and funeral homes so we can fill them up AGAIN.

That is why it needs to be at a local level! Then YOU have sway in your area! Besides, you don't want Trump to be a dictator, do you? Let Cuomo decide for New York, Desantis for Florida, etc, while consulting with the rest of the state government.

what are airlines going to say if the economy is opened and they get left out -

sounds kinda dictator-ish ...

step up, or step off -

Are you suggesting that governors or mayors aren't smart enough to make the decision on their own for their particular jurisdiction?

Or are you rather suggesting, that you want Trump to nationally make the decision, so you can point to one particular area that it got worse in, so you can blame him?

Why would we elect these people if they are not smart enough to make a reasonable call? Our government isn't just the President you know.

Democrat governors and mayors are most interested in advancing the communist agenda. Not the best interests of the people.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It’s amazing how everyone who hates Trump wants to economy closed as long as possible.

They call him a dictator, and then cry that he didn’t remove our rights soon enough. Fucking morons.

Just like they said the President doesn't listen to his experts; he thinks he knows everything. Well.....he did listen to his experts, and now they are crying he didn't go over their heads.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

yeah it about time to open the gates in airports - import tourists , spend their money and get rolling.

right after we clear the back log of corpses, and funeral homes so we can fill them up AGAIN.

That is why it needs to be at a local level! Then YOU have sway in your area! Besides, you don't want Trump to be a dictator, do you? Let Cuomo decide for New York, Desantis for Florida, etc, while consulting with the rest of the state government.

what are airlines going to say if the economy is opened and they get left out -

sounds kinda dictator-ish ...

step up, or step off -

Are you suggesting that governors or mayors aren't smart enough to make the decision on their own for their particular jurisdiction?

Or are you rather suggesting, that you want Trump to nationally make the decision, so you can point to one particular area that it got worse in, so you can blame him?

Why would we elect these people if they are not smart enough to make a reasonable call? Our government isn't just the President you know.

Democrat governors and mayors are most interested in advancing the communist agenda. Not the best interests of the people.

But they also love their tax money. When businesses start do deal with companies in cities or states that are no longer in lockdown, they will be thinking twice about it if they are still in lockdown over power.

 

[kyzr]

A task force is or has already been formed to plan the re-opening of the economy.

What would you do?

May 1, 2020: Keep these closed, until Phase-2:
All Cruises, all bars, except outdoor bars with social distancing
All stadiums, ball parks, concerts, church services, political rallies, all "crowds" over 10-people

Limited reopen with "Mitigation Measures" still in-place:
All stores & businesses, with "guards" checking temperatures before entering, masks are required when moving
Restaurants, reservations required, temperature checks, with social distancing spacing, ideally outdoor
Golf courses (no bars)
Airlines with temperature checks and masks required

July 1, 2020: Everything back to normal, except masks must be worn when around others, such as at stadiums

When vaccine is available: Back to normal, no masks required.

We don't have the convenience of waiting two years to get our economy back to normal.

WTF are you talking about? I'm saying back to a new normal in July, 3-months, not 2-years.

Are these not your words?

"When vaccine is available: Back to normal, no masks required."

These are my words:
July 1, 2020: Everything back to normal, except masks must be worn when around others, such as at stadiums
When vaccine is available: Back to normal, no masks required.

There is no "2-years" in any statement. The vaccine will be available a lot sooner than 2-years.
On another thread I said that I'd bet that the vaccine will be widely available before election day, 11/3/2020.
So that's "normal with masks, 3-mo" and "normal w/o masks, 7-mos"

 

[Dragonlady]

If you think it’s ok to have the economy shut down just because ORANGE MAN BAD, you really need to rethink your life.

Ears didn’t shut it down in 2009.

Obama didn't have 2000 people dying every day, nurses and doctors working in garbage bags, and mass graves in New York, either.

No Obama didn’t. People should be allowed to self police. Martial law is bullshit. Move to Cuba or Venezuela or NOKO. It is unconstitutional.

Covid19 is NOT H1N1. It is far more contagious and 10 times more deadly. But if Obama had been President when this happened. I'm willing to be real money that the USA would have been prepared with PPE's and ventilators when this thing hit, and Obama would have had a national strategy, and he would not be going on TV every day lamenting the damage being done to his beloved economy. He would be calming and re-assuring the American people that you'll get through this together.

What he would not be doing is slamming the governors for not doing enough, or whining about a lack of appreciation for all he's done.

 

[kyzr]

If you think it’s ok to have the economy shut down just because ORANGE MAN BAD, you really need to rethink your life.

Ears didn’t shut it down in 2009.

Obama didn't have 2000 people dying every day, nurses and doctors working in garbage bags, and mass graves in New York, either.

No Obama didn’t. People should be allowed to self police. Martial law is bullshit. Move to Cuba or Venezuela or NOKO. It is unconstitutional.

Covid19 is NOT H1N1. It is far more contagious and 10 times more deadly. But if Obama had been President when this happened. I'm willing to be real money that the USA would have been prepared with PPE's and ventilators when this thing hit, and Obama would have had a national strategy, and he would not be going on TV every day lamenting the damage being done to his beloved economy. He would be calming and re-assuring the American people that you'll get through this together.

What he would not be doing is slamming the governors for not doing enough, or whining about a lack of appreciation for all he's done.

Obama couldn't even get a website to run for his "crowning achievement", Obamacare, so please don't expect us to believe that a rookie senator who never ran so much as lemonade stand would be better than Trump at running the Federal government. Your guy may be in deep doodoo if Barr and Durham start indicting the Crossfire Hurricane criminals and they start rolling over on their bosses....

 

[ColonelAngus]

If you think it’s ok to have the economy shut down just because ORANGE MAN BAD, you really need to rethink your life.

Ears didn’t shut it down in 2009.

Obama didn't have 2000 people dying every day, nurses and doctors working in garbage bags, and mass graves in New York, either.

No Obama didn’t. People should be allowed to self police. Martial law is bullshit. Move to Cuba or Venezuela or NOKO. It is unconstitutional.

Covid19 is NOT H1N1. It is far more contagious and 10 times more deadly. But if Obama had been President when this happened. I'm willing to be real money that the USA would have been prepared with PPE's and ventilators when this thing hit, and Obama would have had a national strategy, and he would not be going on TV every day lamenting the damage being done to his beloved economy. He would be calming and re-assuring the American people that you'll get through this together.

What he would not be doing is slamming the governors for not doing enough, or whining about a lack of appreciation for all he's done.

If you think it’s ok to have the economy shut down just because ORANGE MAN BAD, you really need to rethink your life.

Ears didn’t shut it down in 2009.

Obama didn't have 2000 people dying every day, nurses and doctors working in garbage bags, and mass graves in New York, either.

No Obama didn’t. People should be allowed to self police. Martial law is bullshit. Move to Cuba or Venezuela or NOKO. It is unconstitutional.

Covid19 is NOT H1N1. It is far more contagious and 10 times more deadly. But if Obama had been President when this happened. I'm willing to be real money that the USA would have been prepared with PPE's and ventilators when this thing hit, and Obama would have had a national strategy, and he would not be going on TV every day lamenting the damage being done to his beloved economy. He would be calming and re-assuring the American people that you'll get through this together.

What he would not be doing is slamming the governors for not doing enough, or whining about a lack of appreciation for all he's done.

Obama couldn't even get a website to run for his "crowning achievement", Obamacare, so please don't expect us to believe that a rookie senator who never ran so much as lemonade stand would be better than Trump at running the Federal government. Your guy may be in deep doodoo if Barr and Durham start indicting the Crossfire Hurricane criminals and they start rolling over on their bosses....

And Ears knew about the illegal spying and approved of it.

 

[Dragonlady]

If you think it’s ok to have the economy shut down just because ORANGE MAN BAD, you really need to rethink your life.

Ears didn’t shut it down in 2009.

Obama didn't have 2000 people dying every day, nurses and doctors working in garbage bags, and mass graves in New York, either.

No Obama didn’t. People should be allowed to self police. Martial law is bullshit. Move to Cuba or Venezuela or NOKO. It is unconstitutional.

Covid19 is NOT H1N1. It is far more contagious and 10 times more deadly. But if Obama had been President when this happened. I'm willing to be real money that the USA would have been prepared with PPE's and ventilators when this thing hit, and Obama would have had a national strategy, and he would not be going on TV every day lamenting the damage being done to his beloved economy. He would be calming and re-assuring the American people that you'll get through this together.

What he would not be doing is slamming the governors for not doing enough, or whining about a lack of appreciation for all he's done.

Obama couldn't even get a website to run for his "crowning achievement", Obamacare, so please don't expect us to believe that a rookie senator who never ran so much as lemonade stand would be better than Trump at running the Federal government. Your guy may be in deep doodoo if Barr and Durham start indicting the Crossfire Hurricane criminals and they start rolling over on their bosses....

Obama got the website running. A website is not a hands on organizational puzzle.

Take a look at the Canadian response. Sent supplies to China to held with the pandemic, and ordered hospitals to activate pandemic plans. Ordered PPE's, standard treatments and gowns, and watched. When UN tests became available, stocked up. Started testing everyone coming into the country from hot zones, doing follow up and tracing, as disease arrived, contact traced and tested everyone getting sick, and putting people in quarantine.

Asking everyone who returns to the country from abroad, and those arriving for business to self-quarantine for 14 days, and stocking up on PPE's, face shields, tests and treatments.

Canadians have all received their first round of pandemic funding. We have fewer than 25,000 cases total, 40% of which have already been resolved, and we're still only going up by about 1000 cases per day, all across the country, which means that even our curve is flattening.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

If you think it’s ok to have the economy shut down just because ORANGE MAN BAD, you really need to rethink your life.

Ears didn’t shut it down in 2009.

Obama didn't have 2000 people dying every day, nurses and doctors working in garbage bags, and mass graves in New York, either.

No Obama didn’t. People should be allowed to self police. Martial law is bullshit. Move to Cuba or Venezuela or NOKO. It is unconstitutional.

Covid19 is NOT H1N1. It is far more contagious and 10 times more deadly. But if Obama had been President when this happened. I'm willing to be real money that the USA would have been prepared with PPE's and ventilators when this thing hit, and Obama would have had a national strategy, and he would not be going on TV every day lamenting the damage being done to his beloved economy. He would be calming and re-assuring the American people that you'll get through this together.

What he would not be doing is slamming the governors for not doing enough, or whining about a lack of appreciation for all he's done.

Obama couldn't even get a website to run for his "crowning achievement", Obamacare, so please don't expect us to believe that a rookie senator who never ran so much as lemonade stand would be better than Trump at running the Federal government. Your guy may be in deep doodoo if Barr and Durham start indicting the Crossfire Hurricane criminals and they start rolling over on their bosses....

Shitstain obama would have turned this into a race war.

 

[Jarlaxle]

They have had a committee studying how we should leave Afghanistan too, but we are still there, If they form a committee to figure out how to open America back up, it will nt happen anytime soon. Trump should just flip the switch and declare America is open for business starting tomorrow

We should also send old people back to work to sacrifice themselves for the economy. Hey look, I'm the Lt. Governor of Texas!

News flash: plenty of the "old people" are fine with that, and WANT to get things going again! (Offhand, my 60+ father in law.) My uncle's 85-year-old father still plans to take a motorcycle trip from South Dakota to Seattle via Savannah by the first week of May.

 

[kyzr]

If you think it’s ok to have the economy shut down just because ORANGE MAN BAD, you really need to rethink your life.

Ears didn’t shut it down in 2009.

Obama didn't have 2000 people dying every day, nurses and doctors working in garbage bags, and mass graves in New York, either.

No Obama didn’t. People should be allowed to self police. Martial law is bullshit. Move to Cuba or Venezuela or NOKO. It is unconstitutional.

Covid19 is NOT H1N1. It is far more contagious and 10 times more deadly. But if Obama had been President when this happened. I'm willing to be real money that the USA would have been prepared with PPE's and ventilators when this thing hit, and Obama would have had a national strategy, and he would not be going on TV every day lamenting the damage being done to his beloved economy. He would be calming and re-assuring the American people that you'll get through this together.

What he would not be doing is slamming the governors for not doing enough, or whining about a lack of appreciation for all he's done.

Obama couldn't even get a website to run for his "crowning achievement", Obamacare, so please don't expect us to believe that a rookie senator who never ran so much as lemonade stand would be better than Trump at running the Federal government. Your guy may be in deep doodoo if Barr and Durham start indicting the Crossfire Hurricane criminals and they start rolling over on their bosses....

Obama got the website running. A website is not a hands on organizational puzzle.

Take a look at the Canadian response. Sent supplies to China to held with the pandemic, and ordered hospitals to activate pandemic plans. Ordered PPE's, standard treatments and gowns, and watched. When UN tests became available, stocked up. Started testing everyone coming into the country from hot zones, doing follow up and tracing, as disease arrived, contact traced and tested everyone getting sick, and putting people in quarantine.

Asking everyone who returns to the country from abroad, and those arriving for business to self-quarantine for 14 days, and stocking up on PPE's, face shields, tests and treatments.

Canadians have all received their first round of pandemic funding. We have fewer than 25,000 cases total, 40% of which have already been resolved, and we're still only going up by about 1000 cases per day, all across the country, which means that even our curve is flattening.

Congratulations on your handling of COVID.
The US has a different set of problems than Canada. NYC has 8m people in a very tight densely populated area.
Toronto has 6m but in a less densely populated area. Canada is about 1/10th the population of the US.
The US has the 14-day quarantine too. Factoring up your 25,000 by 10 gets to 250,000 which is about half the US 500,000. You Canucks must be better at avoiding spring break beach parties and the Mardi Gras than US folks.

 

[lennypartiv]

What's this crap I hear about reopening in phases? Either your economy is open or it's not.

 

[kyzr]

What's this crap I hear about reopening in phases? Either your economy is open or it's not.

COVID is nothing to fuck with. No crowds w/o masks so we don't trigger another pandemic.
Phases is the only way to go until we get medicines and a vaccine.

 

[whitehall]

...so now, we have Central Planning, a major feature of Communism.

And they've shut down the churches, another major feature of Communism.

What's next?

Government planning for the reopening of the economy is democracy at work. Why in the world the radical left would view it as communism is anybody's guess. Another example of TDS ?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you think it’s ok to have the economy shut down just because ORANGE MAN BAD, you really need to rethink your life.

Ears didn’t shut it down in 2009.

Obama didn't have 2000 people dying every day, nurses and doctors working in garbage bags, and mass graves in New York, either.

No Obama didn’t. People should be allowed to self police. Martial law is bullshit. Move to Cuba or Venezuela or NOKO. It is unconstitutional.

Covid19 is NOT H1N1. It is far more contagious and 10 times more deadly. But if Obama had been President when this happened. I'm willing to be real money that the USA would have been prepared with PPE's and ventilators when this thing hit, and Obama would have had a national strategy, and he would not be going on TV every day lamenting the damage being done to his beloved economy. He would be calming and re-assuring the American people that you'll get through this together.

What he would not be doing is slamming the governors for not doing enough, or whining about a lack of appreciation for all he's done.

I think it would have been much worse. Democrats care more about foreigners than they do Americans. It's likely no travel ban would have been issued until last week if that. DumBama never faced a tragedy like Trump or GW. Look how bad he Fd up Benghazi. Instead of making sure aid was sent to help the Ambassador and the heroes that tried to assist him, DumBama went to bed so he could get up for a fundraiser the next day.