Fox News Sunday Anchors Upset About Obama's Job Growth:

[Vigilante]

And you have NO ANSWER to the forced full time work force now at 30 hours instead of 40.... Talking to you is like ...but other readers understand, they have much higher IQ's than you do!

Yeah they know that is nothing more than a typical lie of the Right, not supported by any REAL data, only anecdotes from Right-wing lying scum.

Ed, you need me to post a few threads of your lies? like this...

WAR On WOMEN By Republicans | Page 60 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum #596!

 

[Clementine]

No one would be upset over job growth. What does upset many are the big lies being told about job growth.

Only a liberal gets excited when someone loses a good paying job and is "lucky" enough to find a minimum wage job. That isn't job growth. Obama's policies are job killers and they have eliminated so many middle class jobs. We want those back.

 

[leftwinger]

"Clinton's 1993 budget cuts, which reduced projected red ink by more than $400 billion over five years, sparked a major drop in interest rates that helped boost investment in all the equipment and systems that brought forth the New Age economy of technological innovation and rising productivity." — Business Week, May 19, 1997

I agree, the Clinton years were good.You win. He worked with "what he had" and it came out OK (>15 years ago). We were discussing ~$19T today debt. Why is BHO so out of control?

 

[Dad2three]

You're full of shit!!!

Like most Fox viewers no evidence...no proof. Here are the official figures from the bureau of the debt. It's the tax cuts Stupid!!!!!

..........................Total U S Debt...........................

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

Nope, when bush left office it was about 10 trillion. After seven years under O, its now almost 19 trillion. You got fuzzy math going on.

OBAMA'S FIRST F/Y BUDGET BEGINS OCT 1, 2009

US DEBT

09/30/2009, $11,909,829,003,511.75.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2014


Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits


Just two policies dating from the Bush Administration — tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — accounted for over $500 billion of the deficit in 2009 and will account for nearly $6 trillion in deficits in 2009 through 2019 (including associated debt-service costs of $1.4 trillion). By 2019, we estimate that these two policies will account for almost half — over $8 trillion — of the $17 trillion in debt that will be owed under current policies

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

What would the debt be if we subtracted Social Security and Medicare?

Over $3 trillion less "debt' to be paid back. Thanks Ronnie...

But SS keeps nearly half of seniors out of poverty, and Medicare allows them to retire with H/C. Unlike the rest of the civilized industrialized world, we don't have UHC which NO POLL EVER HAS SHOWN OTHER NATIONS WANT US STYLE. Weird right?

Wasn't that REAGAN'S MEDICARE BILL....WELL DAMN, IT WAS!

KEEP PROVING YOU ARE ONE OF THE DUMBEST RIGHT WINGERS ON THIS BOARD BUBBA

OPPOSING MEDICARE DUMMY

Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine is a 1961 LP featuring Ronald Reagan. In this more than ten-minute recording, Reagan "criticized Social Security for supplanting private savings and warned that subsidized medicine would curtail Americans' freedom" and that "pretty soon your son won't decide when he's in school, where he will go or what he will do for a living. He will wait for the government to tell him."

 

[Dad2three]

You're full of shit!!!

Like most Fox viewers no evidence...no proof. Here are the official figures from the bureau of the debt. It's the tax cuts Stupid!!!!!

..........................Total U S Debt...........................

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

Nope, when bush left office it was about 10 trillion. After seven years under O, its now almost 19 trillion. You got fuzzy math going on.

OBAMA'S FIRST F/Y BUDGET BEGINS OCT 1, 2009

US DEBT

09/30/2009, $11,909,829,003,511.75.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2014


Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits


Just two policies dating from the Bush Administration — tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — accounted for over $500 billion of the deficit in 2009 and will account for nearly $6 trillion in deficits in 2009 through 2019 (including associated debt-service costs of $1.4 trillion). By 2019, we estimate that these two policies will account for almost half — over $8 trillion — of the $17 trillion in debt that will be owed under current policies

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

What would the debt be if we subtracted Social Security and Medicare?

Over $3 trillion less "debt' to be paid back. Thanks Ronnie...

But SS keeps nearly half of seniors out of poverty, and Medicare allows them to retire with H/C. Unlike the rest of the civilized industrialized world, we don't have UHC which NO POLL EVER HAS SHOWN OTHER NATIONS WANT US STYLE. Weird right?

Wasn't that REAGAN'S MEDICARE BILL....WELL DAMN, IT WAS!

KEEP PROVING YOU ARE ONE OF THE DUMBEST RIGHT WINGERS ON THIS BOARD BUBBA

OPPOSING MEDICARE DUMMY

Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine is a 1961 LP featuring Ronald Reagan. In this more than ten-minute recording, Reagan "criticized Social Security for supplanting private savings and warned that subsidized medicine would curtail Americans' freedom" and that "pretty soon your son won't decide when he's in school, where he will go or what he will do for a living. He will wait for the government to tell him."

 

[Dad2three]

FULL TIME JOBS ARE 30 HOURS, NOT 40

Liar!
35 hours is now and has always been the demarcation line between FT and PT by the BLS.

Don't you worthless lying America hating scum ever get tired of lying???

Yes EdTheLiar, YOU are dumber, if possible, than Derp23!

1. Employers keep workers under 30 hours to avoid ...
   abc27.com/2013/09/20/employers-keep-workers-under-30...Cached
   ... 30 hours to avoid Obamacare penalty. ... 30. Under the ACA, known as Obamacare, employers must provide health insurance for employees who work more than 30 hours ...
   
   
2. Obamacare Mandate: Anyone Who Works 30- Hour Week...
   cnsnews.com/news/article/obamacare-mandate-anyone-who...Cached
   Obamacare Mandate: Anyone Who Works 30-Hour Week Is Now 'Full-Time' By Matt Cover ... More from Matt Cover.
   
   
3. ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To ...
   news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/090514-669013...Cached
   ... we've compiled a list of job actions with strong proof that ObamaCare's employer mandate ... working more than 30 hours ... ObamaCare employer penalties ...

The moron doesn't understand the difference with BLS and Obamacares? LMAOROG

And you have NO ANSWER to the forced full time work force now at 30 hours instead of 40.... Talking to you is like ...but other readers understand, they have much higher IQ's than you do!

Your talking point must be updated Bubba, it's LESS THAN 30 HOURS AND THE EMPLOYER MANDATE DOESN'T KICK IN. Good thing as Ed said, part time jobs (under 35 hours a week) a decline of 3+ million part time (under 35 hours) since Obamacares passed, lol

 

[Dad2three]

No one would be upset over job growth. What does upset many are the big lies being told about job growth.

Only a liberal gets excited when someone loses a good paying job and is "lucky" enough to find a minimum wage job. That isn't job growth. Obama's policies are job killers and they have eliminated so many middle class jobs. We want those back.

Name the policies that did that dummy?

 

[leftwinger]

Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine is a 1961

He was that smart way back then? Sweet. Freedom, Free Markets work best (minimal controls). If not we should follow North Korea, Cuba. You aware what happened to Argentina?

 

[Dad2three]

"Clinton's 1993 budget cuts, which reduced projected red ink by more than $400 billion over five years, sparked a major drop in interest rates that helped boost investment in all the equipment and systems that brought forth the New Age economy of technological innovation and rising productivity." — Business Week, May 19, 1997

I agree, the Clinton years were good.You win. He worked with "what he had" and it came out OK (>15 years ago). We were discussing ~$19T today debt. Why is BHO so out of control?

Out of control? NAME the policies he's passed UNFUNDED (Medicare 100%+ funded so far, not a penny of debt), that is responsible for the deficits or debt?


HINT GOP UNFUNDED WARS, UNFUNDED TAX CUTS AND UNFUNDED MEDICARE EXPANSION GO TO THE TOP OF THE HEAP

Then Dubya cheering on the Banksters credit bubble is several trillion of the debt!

 

[Dad2three]

Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine is a 1961

He was that smart way back then? Sweet. Freedom, Free Markets work best (minimal controls). If not we should follow North Korea, Cuba. You aware what happened to Argentina?

Yes, ASK THE SENIORS IF WE SHOULD GET RID OF MEDICARE, WHAT HE WAS OPPOSING, lol

 

[leftwinger]

NAME the policies he's passed UNFUNDED

"Stimulus" for one. Every year >$1T deficit until taxes raised and housing recovered?

HINT GOP UNFUNDED WARS,

These talking points really irritate me. Accounting shows income/outgo each year. Defense spending built in, they would suck up ~$800B to drink coffee or go fight. Don't start with this secret off budget nonsense. That horse has been beat enough. This is tiring. We have had 7 years. No profit? it ain't working well. If you cannot see that ......... I can't help you.

 

[leftwinger]

ASK THE SENIORS IF WE SHOULD GET RID OF MEDICARE,

if given a choice at sign-up I am sure a great percentage would opt out. Like SSI, it is forced on us (socialized?). Fraud is found to be large percentage of each year payout? Almost all FED govt programs are extremely poorly ran with massive fraud. I would think better to shrink where possible.

 

[Dad2three]

NAME the policies he's passed UNFUNDED

"Stimulus" for one. Every year >$1T deficit until taxes raised and housing recovered?

HINT GOP UNFUNDED WARS,

These talking points really irritate me. Accounting shows income/outgo each year. Defense spending built in, they would suck up ~$800B to drink coffee or go fight. Don't start with this secret off budget nonsense. That horse has been beat enough. This is tiring. We have had 7 years. No profit? it ain't working well. If you cannot see that ......... I can't help you.

Stimulus? Oh the one that according to the majority of economists, kept US out of ANOTHER GOP great depression? It was $787 billion AND 40% tax cut (the wasted part)...


NEVER SAID OFF BUDGET, I SAID UNFUNDED. Unfunded means you didn't lower spending or increase revenues...

How did Dubya's $4 trillion in tax cuts work out?


FLASHBACK: 85 Percent Of House Republicans Who Were Serving In ‘08 Voted For Bush’s Stimulus Act ($152 billion)

In January 2008 when the economic picture was far less dire and the unemployment rate was only 4.8 percent, 165 Republicans in the House of Representatives and 33 Republican senators voted to pass a stimulus package with an estimated cost of $152 billion. That package provided tax cuts of up to $600 for individuals or $1,200 for married couples, plus an additional $300 per child. The bill also contained a number of temporary tax breaks for businesses. And just in case you thought President George W. Bush’s stimulus bill was simply a bunch of tax cuts, it also included $40 billion in direct spending. The legislation was even called the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008.

FLASHBACK: 85 Percent Of House Republicans Who Were Serving In ’08 Voted For Bush’s Stimulus Act


THE "PATRIOTS" PUTTING PARTY AHEAD OF NATION!!!

 

[Dad2three]

ASK THE SENIORS IF WE SHOULD GET RID OF MEDICARE,

if given a choice at sign-up I am sure a great percentage would opt out. Like SSI, it is forced on us (socialized?). Fraud is found to be large percentage of each year payout? Almost all FED govt programs are extremely poorly ran with massive fraud. I would think better to shrink where possible.

MORE RIGHT WING GARBAGE NOT BASED IN REALITY. Shocking

 

[Dad2three]

NAME the policies he's passed UNFUNDED

"Stimulus" for one. Every year >$1T deficit until taxes raised and housing recovered?

HINT GOP UNFUNDED WARS,

These talking points really irritate me. Accounting shows income/outgo each year. Defense spending built in, they would suck up ~$800B to drink coffee or go fight. Don't start with this secret off budget nonsense. That horse has been beat enough. This is tiring. We have had 7 years. No profit? it ain't working well. If you cannot see that ......... I can't help you.

“The stimulus worked” is the overwhelming conclusion of a panel of elite economists surveyed as part of the ("FREE MARKET") University of Chicago’s IGM Economic Experts Panel. The survey asked whether the unemployment rate at the end of 2010 was lower than it would have been because of the U.S. government’s 2009 fiscal stimulus act. Out of the 37 panelists who responded, 36 agreed, an even better response than an identical 2012 survey.


What Debate? Economists Agree the Stimulus Lifted the Economy

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/u...ree-the-stimulus-lifted-the-economy.html?_r=0

 

[leftwinger]

165 Republicans in the House of Representatives and 33 Republican senators voted to pass a stimulus package with an estimated cost of $152 billion.

I remember that, money back in taxpayer pocket. It could not save housing crash or Congressional DemWit spending spree 07' onwards. T hat plus Tarp (later that year) skyrocket 08' deficit. Did not work then so BHO decided to do bigger 09'? But taxpayer got nothing out of it. Infrastructure not included big also. Not a great success at all. Union/Govt handout.

 

[leftwinger]

The debt was 10T now it soon to be 19T. are you massively better off than in 2007? Come on?

 

[Dad2three]

ASK THE SENIORS IF WE SHOULD GET RID OF MEDICARE,

if given a choice at sign-up I am sure a great percentage would opt out. Like SSI, it is forced on us (socialized?). Fraud is found to be large percentage of each year payout? Almost all FED govt programs are extremely poorly ran with massive fraud. I would think better to shrink where possible.

"in 1964, nearly half of all seniors were uninsured, making the elderly among the least likely Americans to have health insurance."

http://media.jsonline.com/documents/Medicare2000.pdf

54 percent had hospital coverage, and 46 percent had surgical coverage

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr017.pdf


SERIOUSLY? OPT OUT?? LOL

Virtually all seniors have coverage today

 

[Dad2three]

The debt was 10T now it soon to be 19T. are you massively better off than in 2007? Come on?

IT WAS $11.9+ TRILLION THE DAY OBAMA'S FIRST F/Y BUDGET BEGAN, AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF NEW DEBT CAN BE TRACED BACK TO GOP POLICIES!!!!

 

[Dad2three]

165 Republicans in the House of Representatives and 33 Republican senators voted to pass a stimulus package with an estimated cost of $152 billion.

I remember that, money back in taxpayer pocket. It could not save housing crash or Congressional DemWit spending spree 07' onwards. T hat plus Tarp (later that year) skyrocket 08' deficit. Did not work then so BHO decided to do bigger 09'? But taxpayer got nothing out of it. Infrastructure not included big also. Not a great success at all. Union/Govt handout.

Bigger 09? Hint it was thanks to DUBYA'S HOME OWNERSHIP PONZI SCHEME AND THE CREDIT CARD BILLS COMING DUE!!!

CBO projects record $1.2 trillion deficit - Jan. 7, 2009