Funding of the Wall to be a State of the Union Demand

[DOTR]

If the Democrats demand a spending cut it will be in defense and border control. But I dont care. Shut the border and starve them of votes.

 

[Siete]

FUNDING THE WALL WAS A KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OPEN DEMAND-

how did that work out ..

 

[Brain357]

Maybe this time Mexico will pay for the wall?

Mexico should pay for the wall via taxing remittances sent from the US. Why won't they pass the Law?

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/05/tax_remittances_can_build_the_wall.html

Is that even legal? I remember when republicans were against taxes....

I'm against foreign invaders taking 26 billion a year out of our economy and screwing our tax base.

Invaders? That's funny.

Aren't you late for your La Raza meeting?

No idea what that is.

 

[Asclepias]

Mexico should pay for the wall via taxing remittances sent from the US. Why won't they pass the Law?

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/05/tax_remittances_can_build_the_wall.html

Is that even legal? I remember when republicans were against taxes....

I'm against foreign invaders taking 26 billion a year out of our economy and screwing our tax base.

Invaders? That's funny.

Aren't you late for your La Raza meeting?

No idea what that is.

Its a slang term for the different groups of Hispanics. Basically the equivalent of the Black Panthers for Mexicans.

 

[Brain357]

I'm fully aware of what it is. So you want to steal it?

That money should be spent in the US and help our GDP and tax revenue. A small tax is very justified.

If they are making the money here it should have already been taxed. You are a big double taxation guy eh?

You're a brain dead moron.
Have you ever heard of a sales tax? Not to mention the 26 billion thats not being spent in local economies.

And? You want double taxation then?

Call it what you want.
But they should pay a penalty for removing 26 billion from our economy.
If you dont see that as damaging to our economy you're a complete moron.

As long as they earned the money and it isn't stolen I don't see how it is any of your business what they do with it. We sure don't need more taxes.

 

[Dragonlady]

Democrats have chosen their Little Big Horn hill to make their 2020 stand on if they don’t give him what he wants.

As we see with the current Go Fund Me for building the wall, Americans want it and want it now.

Art of The Deal:

Anxious over the image of shutting down the government four days before Christmas, the White House and congressional Republicans shifted the budget fight over border wall funding to February to make it the focus of President Trump’s State of the Union.

With the administration under fire in some conservative quarters for “caving in” after making repeated threats to shut the government down Friday if a deal for more wall funding wasn’t cut, officials Wednesday afternoon pushed back, claiming it is part of a broader plan to heighten the war with Democrats over securing $5 billion for border security.

“It’s not a retreat, it’s actually a bigger attack,” said a Trump adviser.

The shutdown date was pushed back to Feb. 8, after Trump is scheduled to give his State of the Union to a joint sitting of Congress. It is always the biggest speech of the year.

“The date after the State of the Union gives the president the biggest visible platform,” said another source familiar with the agreement cut today. “This positions us to have the fight when we have the most visibility,” added the source.

Wall funding to be State of the Union demand, direct challenge to Pelosi

As Americans have shown by the GoFundMe page??? Out of a population of 325,000,000, 100,000 people have donated to build the wall that Trump promised Mexico would pay for. That's less than 1/3 of 1% of the population. Hardly an overwhelming endorsement.

And the $6 million donated so far, well only $994 million to go to get to the goall of $1 billion. But Donnie needs $5 billion NOW, and another $20 billion later. So that $6 million raised, will barely cover the cost of Donnie's Christmas vacation in Mar-a-lago.

 

[OldLady]

The fake conservatives have been totally silent about Trump's spending. That tells you all their whining about Obama's spending was sheer hypocrisy.

It makes one wonder what DO they actually fucking stand for.

Trump has proven time and time again they don't stand for Traditional Family Values™, they don't stand for a balanced budget or fiscal conservatism, they aren't for transparency, and they sure as shit don't want to see the swamp drained.

And then they are baffled and upset and cry crocodile tears when Trump gets himself held hostage due to his record spending.

They'll tell you it was the negro's fault he was shot over a broken tail light. "He shouldna run!"

But Trump spending a record amount of money and getting himself into such a bind that the Democrats can hold him hostage over a measly $5 billion? Gee whillickers those darned Democrats are traitors!

the Democrats can hold him hostage over a measly $5 billion?
I don't know what that means. Could Trump, himself, without Congress's approval, take 5B out of another program, and put it toward the wall?
What do you mean?

 

[Asclepias]

Democrats have chosen their Little Big Horn hill to make their 2020 stand on if they don’t give him what he wants.

As we see with the current Go Fund Me for building the wall, Americans want it and want it now.

Art of The Deal:

Anxious over the image of shutting down the government four days before Christmas, the White House and congressional Republicans shifted the budget fight over border wall funding to February to make it the focus of President Trump’s State of the Union.

With the administration under fire in some conservative quarters for “caving in” after making repeated threats to shut the government down Friday if a deal for more wall funding wasn’t cut, officials Wednesday afternoon pushed back, claiming it is part of a broader plan to heighten the war with Democrats over securing $5 billion for border security.

“It’s not a retreat, it’s actually a bigger attack,” said a Trump adviser.

The shutdown date was pushed back to Feb. 8, after Trump is scheduled to give his State of the Union to a joint sitting of Congress. It is always the biggest speech of the year.

“The date after the State of the Union gives the president the biggest visible platform,” said another source familiar with the agreement cut today. “This positions us to have the fight when we have the most visibility,” added the source.

Wall funding to be State of the Union demand, direct challenge to Pelosi

As Americans have shown by the GoFundMe page??? Out of a population of 325,000,000, 100,000 people have donated to build the wall that Trump promised Mexico would pay for. That's less than 1/3 of 1% of the population. Hardly an overwhelming endorsement.

And the $6 million donated so far, well only $994 million to go to get to the goall of $1 billion. But Donnie needs $5 billion NOW, and another $20 billion later. So that $6 million raised, will barely cover the cost of Donnie's Christmas vacation in Mar-a-lago.

Damn. I didnt think that many stupid people still existed in the US. 100k people donated to this?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That money should be spent in the US and help our GDP and tax revenue. A small tax is very justified.

If they are making the money here it should have already been taxed. You are a big double taxation guy eh?

You're a brain dead moron.
Have you ever heard of a sales tax? Not to mention the 26 billion thats not being spent in local economies.

And? You want double taxation then?

Call it what you want.
But they should pay a penalty for removing 26 billion from our economy.
If you dont see that as damaging to our economy you're a complete moron.

As long as they earned the money and it isn't stolen I don't see how it is any of your business what they do with it. We sure don't need more taxes.

Do you realise just how stupid you sound?
We dont need more tax revenue? How the fuck do you think we ended up with a 21 trillion deficit?
They take advantage of our gov assistance programs and then send the money they earn back to mehico while providing nothing in return.
You're a complete dumbfuck .....or a beaner.

 

[Dragonlady]

The fake conservatives have been totally silent about Trump's spending. That tells you all their whining about Obama's spending was sheer hypocrisy.

It makes one wonder what DO they actually fucking stand for.

Trump has proven time and time again they don't stand for Traditional Family Values™, they don't stand for a balanced budget or fiscal conservatism, they aren't for transparency, and they sure as shit don't want to see the swamp drained.

And then they are baffled and upset and cry crocodile tears when Trump gets himself held hostage due to his record spending.

They'll tell you it was the negro's fault he was shot over a broken tail light. "He shouldna run!"

But Trump spending a record amount of money and getting himself into such a bind that the Democrats can hold him hostage over a measly $5 billion? Gee whillickers those darned Democrats are traitors!

the Democrats can hold him hostage over a measly $5 billion?
I don't know what that means. Could Trump, himself, without Congress's approval, take 5B out of another program, and put it toward the wall?
What do you mean?

No he cannot. Trump can't take money from one department to fund something that Congress refuses to fund or approve. Appropriations don't work that way. No means no.

 

[Dragonlady]

If they are making the money here it should have already been taxed. You are a big double taxation guy eh?

You're a brain dead moron.
Have you ever heard of a sales tax? Not to mention the 26 billion thats not being spent in local economies.

And? You want double taxation then?

Call it what you want.
But they should pay a penalty for removing 26 billion from our economy.
If you dont see that as damaging to our economy you're a complete moron.

As long as they earned the money and it isn't stolen I don't see how it is any of your business what they do with it. We sure don't need more taxes.

Do you realise just how stupid you sound?
We dont need more tax revenue? How the fuck do you think we ended up with a 21 trillion deficit?
They take advantage of our gov assistance programs and then send the money they earn back to mehico while providing nothing in return.
You're a complete dumbfuck .....or a beaner.

Everything you posted is a lie. "Illegals" add to the national GDP. They pay 15% withholding taxes, which go into government coffers and doesn't come back. The figures you posted are the costs of services used by illegal, but your figures don't the contribution of withholding taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, and all of the millions of dollars they contribute to the GDP and the national tax base. Some studies say that the US is actually MAKING more money off the illegals than they cost.

Are you really this gullible? It's not the illegal immigrants who are driving the deficit. It's Trump's Tax Cuts and the military.

 

[Asclepias]

You're a brain dead moron.
Have you ever heard of a sales tax? Not to mention the 26 billion thats not being spent in local economies.

And? You want double taxation then?

Call it what you want.
But they should pay a penalty for removing 26 billion from our economy.
If you dont see that as damaging to our economy you're a complete moron.

As long as they earned the money and it isn't stolen I don't see how it is any of your business what they do with it. We sure don't need more taxes.

Do you realise just how stupid you sound?
We dont need more tax revenue? How the fuck do you think we ended up with a 21 trillion deficit?
They take advantage of our gov assistance programs and then send the money they earn back to mehico while providing nothing in return.
You're a complete dumbfuck .....or a beaner.

Everything you posted is a lie. "Illegals" add to the national GDP. They pay 15% withholding taxes, which go into government coffers and doesn't come back. The figures you posted are the costs of services used by illegal, but your figures don't the contribution of withholding taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, and all of the millions of dollars they contribute to the GDP and the national tax base. Some studies say that the US is actually MAKING more money off the illegals than they cost.

Are you really this gullible? It's not the illegal immigrants who are driving the deficit. It's Trump's Tax Cuts and the military.

This information right here is what people dont seem to get. Neither party is going to do anything because there is way too much money involved that "illegals" generate.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

We hired Trump because of his promise to build the wall. If he backs down on this, that's breaking a promise.

I don't disagree but he can't do it on his own.

Trump was elected to be just what the other (12) do nothing Republicans didn't do..... and that is to kiss the lefts ass. The machine is deliberately running without oil just to grind him to a halt.

-Geaux

Great.

If the congress passes a continuing resolution and Trump doesn't sign it, the only thing he will have accomplished is hanging the shutdown around his own neck.

That does nothing to force congress. They can simply wait him out.

And like the 12 in the primary, they will pay dearly come next election for their obstruction

-Geaux

LOL
It would be the president who will have obstructed, dope.

The congress will have done their job.

 

[OldLady]

The fake conservatives have been totally silent about Trump's spending. That tells you all their whining about Obama's spending was sheer hypocrisy.

It makes one wonder what DO they actually fucking stand for.

Trump has proven time and time again they don't stand for Traditional Family Values™, they don't stand for a balanced budget or fiscal conservatism, they aren't for transparency, and they sure as shit don't want to see the swamp drained.

And then they are baffled and upset and cry crocodile tears when Trump gets himself held hostage due to his record spending.

They'll tell you it was the negro's fault he was shot over a broken tail light. "He shouldna run!"

But Trump spending a record amount of money and getting himself into such a bind that the Democrats can hold him hostage over a measly $5 billion? Gee whillickers those darned Democrats are traitors!

the Democrats can hold him hostage over a measly $5 billion?
I don't know what that means. Could Trump, himself, without Congress's approval, take 5B out of another program, and put it toward the wall?
What do you mean?

No he cannot. Trump can't take money from one department to fund something that Congress refuses to fund or approve. Appropriations don't work that way. No means no.

Do you understand what G is saying then?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You're a brain dead moron.
Have you ever heard of a sales tax? Not to mention the 26 billion thats not being spent in local economies.

And? You want double taxation then?

Call it what you want.
But they should pay a penalty for removing 26 billion from our economy.
If you dont see that as damaging to our economy you're a complete moron.

As long as they earned the money and it isn't stolen I don't see how it is any of your business what they do with it. We sure don't need more taxes.

Do you realise just how stupid you sound?
We dont need more tax revenue? How the fuck do you think we ended up with a 21 trillion deficit?
They take advantage of our gov assistance programs and then send the money they earn back to mehico while providing nothing in return.
You're a complete dumbfuck .....or a beaner.

Everything you posted is a lie. "Illegals" add to the national GDP. They pay 15% withholding taxes, which go into government coffers and doesn't come back. The figures you posted are the costs of services used by illegal, but your figures don't the contribution of withholding taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, and all of the millions of dollars they contribute to the GDP and the national tax base. Some studies say that the US is actually MAKING more money off the illegals than they cost.

Are you really this gullible? It's not the illegal immigrants who are driving the deficit. It's Trump's Tax Cuts and the military.

Look...I know you've only been paying attention for three years and being an oldlady has slowed down you mental capacity.
But......THEY SEND BACK 26 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR THAT IS NOT SPENT HERE IN AMERICA!!!!!!

That fucks the local economy as well as our tax base.
Not to mention they use our gov assistance programs.
You know every once in a while you show signs of intelligence but this is ridiculous!!!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

There is a lot of Finger Pointing and Blame to go around for the wall not getting funded, but most of that going on is mis-placed. President Trump in no way deserves the 'Lion's Share' of the Blame.

President Trump believes in our sovereignty, in our nation's security, and in protecting the American people. I truly believe he made the promise to build the wall in good faith to the American people and meant to keep promise. HE IS NOT THE ONE TO BLAME FOR WHAT IS GOING ON.

Years ago Pelosi, Obama, Schumer - they all believed in securing the border and voted for doing so. Fast forward to now - Partisan hatred, 100% commitment to undermining the President and everything the GOP and President try to do for the good of the country in favor of what is best for the Democratic party has been embraced by the Left.

That being said, the Democrats do NOT deserve the 'Lion's Share' of blame for the wall not getting done, either. Their 'resistance' and partisan undermining is EXPECTED.

Nope, despite the Left hurling all of their poison-tipped spears at President Trump, and despite Trump being 'the leader of the GOP, Trump is not to blame, either.

This huge, MASSIVE, cow-pie flop of a failure rests completely where it has always been - with the Republican Party Leadership in Congress Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, as always, sabotaged the Republican Party, the President, and the American people.

The GOP leadership told Conservatives, "Give us the House, & we will get things done."
- Americans gave them the House...and the GOP moved the goal post:

"Give us the House and Senate, and we'' get things done."
- Americans gave them the House...and the GOP moved the goal post:

"Give us the House, Senate, and the WH, and we'll get things done."
- THE MINUTE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GAVE THEM THE HOUSE, THE SENATE, AND THE WH THE GOP BEGAN MAKING EXCUSES ABOUT WHY THEY COULD NOT KEEP THJEIR PROMISE TO GET THINGS DONE.

I shared how itch McConnell is a gutless 'Status Quo' do-nothing worthless POS Republican - he hates to lead because being out from draws attention and criticism. He would rather go along with the Democrats while bemoaning how the GOP is in no position / does not have the power to do anything.

HE AND PAUL RYAN FLAT-OUT LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD GET THINGS DONE IF THEY CONTROLLED THE HOUSE, SENATE, AND WH! In doing so, they betrayed this President and betrayed the trust the American people put in them after they swore to do what the people wanted if they were given the House, Senate and WH.

When the Democrats took the House and Senate and then the WH, THEY HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, KNOCKING OUT / ACCOMPLISHING EVERYTHING THEY SWORE TO DO! Kudos to them, seriously, for doing what they said they would do!

President Trump has not only had to contend with Democrats obsessed with undoing the 2016 election, but he has been saddled with lying, partisan cowards - horrific 'leaders' in the Republican Party who REFUSED TO KEEP THEIR PROMISES!

The GOP could have passed legislation funding the wall in early 2017 and could have construction underway right now....it's not that they COULD not - It's that they WOULD NOT / DID NOT!

Trump deserves all of the blame. It's his dopey idea that never had enough support to pass.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I can't fight what doesn't exist there, either. Show me Mexico's check.

Sure you can. You vote for treasonous Democrats who fight the wall. It isnt there because you fought it...and your Mexican allies against the American people. Its that simple.

There is no blame for the Democrats when the president's own party doesn't even support it.

 

[Geaux4it]

We hired Trump because of his promise to build the wall. If he backs down on this, that's breaking a promise.

I don't disagree but he can't do it on his own.

Trump was elected to be just what the other (12) do nothing Republicans didn't do..... and that is to kiss the lefts ass. The machine is deliberately running without oil just to grind him to a halt.

-Geaux

Great.

If the congress passes a continuing resolution and Trump doesn't sign it, the only thing he will have accomplished is hanging the shutdown around his own neck.

That does nothing to force congress. They can simply wait him out.

And like the 12 in the primary, they will pay dearly come next election for their obstruction

-Geaux

LOL
It would be the president who will have obstructed, dope.

The congress will have done their job.

You're close. The congress IS NOT doing their job thus Trump will let them live with those decisions. America voted for Trump to do what he said he would, and a Republican Congress and Senate had best get with the program

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

I can't fight what doesn't exist there, either. Show me Mexico's check.

Sure you can. You vote for treasonous Democrats who fight the wall. It isnt there because you fought it...and your Mexican allies against the American people. Its that simple.

There is no blame for the Democrats when the president's own party doesn't even support it.

Agreed. The problem is WHY they don't support it. Their reasoning doesn't carry water

-Geaux

 

[Asclepias]

I can't fight what doesn't exist there, either. Show me Mexico's check.

Sure you can. You vote for treasonous Democrats who fight the wall. It isnt there because you fought it...and your Mexican allies against the American people. Its that simple.

There is no blame for the Democrats when the president's own party doesn't even support it.

Agreed. The problem is WHY they don't support it. Their reasoning doesn't carry water

-Geaux

The reason they dont support it is because its a dumb idea. Besides Mexico was supposed to pay for it.