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Better Shariah then killing a million or more people with nuclear weapons or sanctions or wars that are acts of agression.
And Shariah has nothing to do with Israel and Palestine. Nor do your Photos.
I must have missed a news report somewhere. Didn't Hamas just install Sharia law in Gaza, Sherri? - Jeri
Better Shariah then killing a million or more people with nuclear weapons or sanctions or wars that are acts of agression.
And yet you're in favor of illegal 'sanctions' against a nation which is one of America's allies......
(COMMENT)Better Shariah then killing a million or more people with nuclear weapons or sanctions or wars that are acts of agression.
SherriMunnerlyn; et al,
I don't think that many people in the West would agree.
(COMMENT)Better Shariah then killing a million or more people with nuclear weapons or sanctions or wars that are acts of agression.
Most countries under Islamic Leadership are very restrictive.
Here, in America, the watch phrases are: "Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" (Patrick Henry); or in other words: "God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it" (Daniel Webster).
Most Respectfully,
R
Most Respectfully,
R
SherriMunnerlyn; et al,
I don't think that many people in the West would agree.
(COMMENT)Better Shariah then killing a million or more people with nuclear weapons or sanctions or wars that are acts of agression.
Most countries under Islamic Leadership are very restrictive.
Here, in America, the watch phrases are: "Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" (Patrick Henry); or in other words: "God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it" (Daniel Webster).
Most Respectfully,
R
Most Respectfully,
R
I think most do not care how many million people we kill in other lands.
Shariah law generally refers to religious laws under the jurisdiction of religious courts and we generally see such laws applying to marriage and divorce and inheritance, in nations where it applies, like Malaysia which has Shariah law for Muslims only, which applies to certain areas, like marriages and divorces of Muslims. This is from an article addressing Shariah law: "Dual Legal System.*Many majority Muslim countries have a dual system in which the government is secular but Muslims can choose to bring familial and financial disputes to sharia courts. The exact jurisdiction of these courts varies from country to country, but usually includes marriage, divorce, inheritance, and guardianship. Examples can be seen in Nigeria and Kenya, which have sharia*courts that rule on family law for Muslims. A variation exists in Tanzania, where civil courts apply sharia or secular law according to the religious backgrounds of the defendants. Several countries, including Lebanon and Indonesia, have mixed jurisdiction courts based on residual colonial legal systems and supplemented with sharia." Islam: Governing Under Sharia - Council on Foreign Relations An example, in Iran if a man kills a woman in some tyle of domestic dispute, the family of the man can pay blood money to the family of the wife to resolve the dispute. The value of the life of a woman is worth less than the value of the life of a man. Everyone may have heard of the man who threw acid in the eyes of a woman who rebuffed his advances. Under the law, they were going to blind him with acid, under Shariah law. At the last minute, she asked that the punishment not be carried out. I think she got some money settlement from his family and wrote a book.
Frau Sherri conveniently omits the fact that her friends have nuclear weapons, and no one would be surprised if they used them on the Infidels (such as those in Pakistan wanting to kill the Hindus in India). Naturally Frau Sherri is waiting for her Iranian friends to go nuclear so that they can attempt to destroy Israel. And, let's face it, did Frau Sherri's friends didn't even need nuclear weapons to murder 2,000,000 Christians in the Sudan, millions of Christians in Nigeria, and 3,000,000 people (mainly Hindus) in BangladeshBetter Shariah then killing a million or more people with nuclear weapons or sanctions or wars that are acts of agression.
Perhaps you can pull up the story for us, Frau Sherri. While you are at it, you can pull up some stories about Muslim men killing the women who refuse their advances and/or refuse to marry them. Meanwhile, how about you travelling to Afghanistan and telling the Taliban who are such devout Muslims that they shouldn't be throwing acid in schoolgirls' faces.Shariah law generally refers to religious laws under the jurisdiction of religious courts and we generally see such laws applying to marriage and divorce and inheritance, in nations where it applies, like Malaysia which has Shariah law for Muslims only, which applies to certain areas, like marriages and divorces of Muslims. This is from an article addressing Shariah law: "Dual Legal System.*Many majority Muslim countries have a dual system in which the government is secular but Muslims can choose to bring familial and financial disputes to sharia courts. The exact jurisdiction of these courts varies from country to country, but usually includes marriage, divorce, inheritance, and guardianship. Examples can be seen in Nigeria and Kenya, which have sharia*courts that rule on family law for Muslims. A variation exists in Tanzania, where civil courts apply sharia or secular law according to the religious backgrounds of the defendants. Several countries, including Lebanon and Indonesia, have mixed jurisdiction courts based on residual colonial legal systems and supplemented with sharia." Islam: Governing Under Sharia - Council on Foreign Relations An example, in Iran if a man kills a woman in some tyle of domestic dispute, the family of the man can pay blood money to the family of the wife to resolve the dispute. The value of the life of a woman is worth less than the value of the life of a man. Everyone may have heard of the man who threw acid in the eyes of a woman who rebuffed his advances. Under the law, they were going to blind him with acid, under Shariah law. At the last minute, she asked that the punishment not be carried out. I think she got some money settlement from his family and wrote a book.
Shariah law generally refers to religious laws under the jurisdiction of religious courts and we generally see such laws applying to marriage and divorce and inheritance, in nations where it applies, like Malaysia which has Shariah law for Muslims only, which applies to certain areas, like marriages and divorces of Muslims. This is from an article addressing Shariah law: "Dual Legal System.*Many majority Muslim countries have a dual system in which the government is secular but Muslims can choose to bring familial and financial disputes to sharia courts. The exact jurisdiction of these courts varies from country to country, but usually includes marriage, divorce, inheritance, and guardianship. Examples can be seen in Nigeria and Kenya, which have sharia*courts that rule on family law for Muslims. A variation exists in Tanzania, where civil courts apply sharia or secular law according to the religious backgrounds of the defendants. Several countries, including Lebanon and Indonesia, have mixed jurisdiction courts based on residual colonial legal systems and supplemented with sharia." Islam: Governing Under Sharia - Council on Foreign Relations An example, in Iran if a man kills a woman in some tyle of domestic dispute, the family of the man can pay blood money to the family of the wife to resolve the dispute. The value of the life of a woman is worth less than the value of the life of a man. Everyone may have heard of the man who threw acid in the eyes of a woman who rebuffed his advances. Under the law, they were going to blind him with acid, under Shariah law. At the last minute, she asked that the punishment not be carried out. I think she got some money settlement from his family and wrote a book.
There is more sherri there is always more, sharia enters into every facet of a person's life.
For example, "...in 2004 the European Court of Human Rights "found that sharia was incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy It considered that sharia, which faithfully reflects the dogmas and divine rules laid down by religion, is stable and invariable. Principles such as pluralism in the political sphere or the constant evolution of public freedoms have no place in it. According to the Court, it was difficult to declare ones respect for democracy and human rights while at the same time supporting a regime based on sharia, which clearly diverged from Convention values, particularly with regard to its criminal law and criminal procedure, its rules on the legal status of women and the way it intervened in all spheres of private and public life in accordance with religious precepts.
http://www.echr.coe.int/NR/rdonlyre..._Cancado_Trindade_BIL__opening_legal_year.pdf
Shariah law generally refers to religious laws under the jurisdiction of religious courts and we generally see such laws applying to marriage and divorce and inheritance, in nations where it applies, like Malaysia which has Shariah law for Muslims only, which applies to certain areas, like marriages and divorces of Muslims. This is from an article addressing Shariah law: "Dual Legal System.*Many majority Muslim countries have a dual system in which the government is secular but Muslims can choose to bring familial and financial disputes to sharia courts. The exact jurisdiction of these courts varies from country to country, but usually includes marriage, divorce, inheritance, and guardianship. Examples can be seen in Nigeria and Kenya, which have sharia*courts that rule on family law for Muslims. A variation exists in Tanzania, where civil courts apply sharia or secular law according to the religious backgrounds of the defendants. Several countries, including Lebanon and Indonesia, have mixed jurisdiction courts based on residual colonial legal systems and supplemented with sharia." Islam: Governing Under Sharia - Council on Foreign Relations An example, in Iran if a man kills a woman in some tyle of domestic dispute, the family of the man can pay blood money to the family of the wife to resolve the dispute. The value of the life of a woman is worth less than the value of the life of a man. Everyone may have heard of the man who threw acid in the eyes of a woman who rebuffed his advances. Under the law, they were going to blind him with acid, under Shariah law. At the last minute, she asked that the punishment not be carried out. I think she got some money settlement from his family and wrote a book.
There is more sherri there is always more, sharia enters into every facet of a person's life.
For example, "...in 2004 the European Court of Human Rights "found that sharia was incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy It considered that sharia, which faithfully reflects the dogmas and divine rules laid down by religion, is stable and invariable. Principles such as pluralism in the political sphere or the constant evolution of public freedoms have no place in it. According to the Court, it was difficult to declare ones respect for democracy and human rights while at the same time supporting a regime based on sharia, which clearly diverged from Convention values, particularly with regard to its criminal law and criminal procedure, its rules on the legal status of women and the way it intervened in all spheres of private and public life in accordance with religious precepts.
http://www.echr.coe.int/NR/rdonlyre..._Cancado_Trindade_BIL__opening_legal_year.pdf
But nothing in that defines Shariah Law.
There is more sherri there is always more, sharia enters into every facet of a person's life.
For example, "...in 2004 the European Court of Human Rights "found that sharia was incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy… It considered that “sharia, which faithfully reflects the dogmas and divine rules laid down by religion, is stable and invariable. Principles such as pluralism in the political sphere or the constant evolution of public freedoms have no place in it. According to the Court, it was difficult to declare one’s respect for democracy and human rights while at the same time supporting a regime based on sharia, which clearly diverged from Convention values, particularly with regard to its criminal law and criminal procedure, its rules on the legal status of women and the way it intervened in all spheres of private and public life in accordance with religious precepts.”
http://www.echr.coe.int/NR/rdonlyre..._Cancado_Trindade_BIL__opening_legal_year.pdf
But nothing in that defines Shariah Law.
It is a fair and accurate representation of what sharia law stands for and how it encompasses every facet of a Muslim's life not just some aspects as you suggested. Indeed, "Within Muslim discourse, sharia designates the rules and regulations governing the lives of Muslims"(see Calder, N. "Sharīa." Encyclopaedia of Islam)
But nothing in that defines Shariah Law.
It is a fair and accurate representation of what sharia law stands for and how it encompasses every facet of a Muslim's life not just some aspects as you suggested. Indeed, "Within Muslim discourse, sharia designates the rules and regulations governing the lives of Muslims"(see Calder, N. "Sharīa." Encyclopaedia of Islam)
so? the same could be said about most religious laws...that they are "incompatable with the fundamental principles of democracy"... at some time point they served a purpose and still do in some societies.
i myself believe in a total seperation of church and state but i also believe that if broad and general statements are to be made, they must be made broadly and generally throughout and not focus on one religion..
personally, in america, i find evangelical christians more threatening to democracy in the practise of their religious beliefs than muslims are in the practice of theirs theirs.
your pdf link denies me access so the context of your excerpt is unclear.
i think a lot of people who focus specifically on islamic dogma to the exclusion of other dogmas are guilty of fear mongering unnecessarily.
The Palestinians want the Jews dead, their not shy about it either.
Some do. Most do not.
We need to be very careful of sweeping generalisations about an entire people.
Yes, but we don't hear any opinions rejecting those views, either...
(COMMENT)Shariah law generally refers to religious laws under the jurisdiction of religious courts and we generally see such laws applying to marriage and divorce and inheritance, in nations where it applies, like Malaysia which has Shariah law for Muslims only, which applies to certain areas, like marriages and divorces of Muslims. ....
There is more sherri there is always more, sharia enters into every facet of a person's life.