Germany: Hanukkah canceled, relocated in fear of Antisemitism

[fncceo]

Then why not talk about that instead of going off into the realms of nonsense?

You made your argument, I came back at it, then you went off on one.

Most of your point was "you can see this here" rather than actually making your own point with your own presentation.

Denazification happened under the British and American sectors, it did not happen under the Soviet sector. Racism in Germany is more prevalent in Soviet sectors that became the former East Germany.

Whether you committed crimes in WW2 isn't the issue here. The issue here is that West Germany people felt this guilt even though they didn't do anything.

It's part of the national psyche. You don't have to agree with this psyche or attitude, but it's clearly there. There are enough articles about it to fill a large library

Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?

"
Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?"

You wouldn't write such an article if Germany didn't feel a certain amount of collective guilt.

Denazification can mean various things. You could say the East carried out Denazification in that they had "re-education camps", but this was to make people "good Communists" or whatever.

The BIG difference between East Germany and West Germany was the "collective guilt".

The NPD existed in Germany from 1964. In 1969 they gained their highest ever West German result of 3.6% and then went downhill from there never to get above 1% again in West Germany.

In 2005 and 2009 they moved up to 1.8% of the vote, the best since 1969.

Membership is most in the East.

Now your argument was about unemployment. Well, the NPD started to do better in 2005. At this time unemployment in Germany hit a high. However unemployment DROPPED in the years after. By 2013 unemployment was much lower, okay it was still a bit higher in the former East Germany, but it was still much lower. So why the support for the NPD?

-

What about Austria the East Germans who didn't become Communist?

Why are they much more Nationalist than other German speakers too?

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

I'm not sure why you're comparing Austria with Ireland, I don't see the connection. Ireland is racist and nationalistic?

Northern Ireland has its problems, but the southern Ireland?

As for the voted pre-WW2, er.... what's that got to do with anything. A lot of people died, a lot of people were misplaced and a lot of people got out of there before the wall went up, so....

I don't get the connection either. Unless he means the Irish Republic was sympathetic to Nazi Germany during WW2.

The Irish Republic was neutral in World War II despite the fact that Germans often attacked Irish shipping and bombed the Irish homeland.

 

[Mindful]

-

What about Austria the East Germans who didn't become Communist?

Why are they much more Nationalist than other German speakers too?

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

I'm not sure why you're comparing Austria with Ireland, I don't see the connection. Ireland is racist and nationalistic?

Northern Ireland has its problems, but the southern Ireland?

As for the voted pre-WW2, er.... what's that got to do with anything. A lot of people died, a lot of people were misplaced and a lot of people got out of there before the wall went up, so....

I don't get the connection either. Unless he means the Irish Republic was sympathetic to Nazi Germany during WW2.

The Irish Republic was neutral in World War II despite the fact that Germans often attacked Irish shipping and bombed the Irish homeland.

Officially.

The Germans were fighting the British. And how does the old saying go?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend....

Irish Republicanism and Nazi Germany | Queen's University Belfast

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I still disagree with your thesis why there is more right-wing attitude in the east and I already explained why it is.

Then why not talk about that instead of going off into the realms of nonsense?

You made your argument, I came back at it, then you went off on one.

Most of your point was "you can see this here" rather than actually making your own point with your own presentation.

Denazification happened under the British and American sectors, it did not happen under the Soviet sector. Racism in Germany is more prevalent in Soviet sectors that became the former East Germany.

Whether you committed crimes in WW2 isn't the issue here. The issue here is that West Germany people felt this guilt even though they didn't do anything.

It's part of the national psyche. You don't have to agree with this psyche or attitude, but it's clearly there. There are enough articles about it to fill a large library

Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?

"
Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?"

You wouldn't write such an article if Germany didn't feel a certain amount of collective guilt.

Denazification can mean various things. You could say the East carried out Denazification in that they had "re-education camps", but this was to make people "good Communists" or whatever.

The BIG difference between East Germany and West Germany was the "collective guilt".

The NPD existed in Germany from 1964. In 1969 they gained their highest ever West German result of 3.6% and then went downhill from there never to get above 1% again in West Germany.

In 2005 and 2009 they moved up to 1.8% of the vote, the best since 1969.

Membership is most in the East.

Now your argument was about unemployment. Well, the NPD started to do better in 2005. At this time unemployment in Germany hit a high. However unemployment DROPPED in the years after. By 2013 unemployment was much lower, okay it was still a bit higher in the former East Germany, but it was still much lower. So why the support for the NPD?

-

What about Austria the East Germans who didn't become Communist?

Why are they much more Nationalist than other German speakers too?

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

I'm not sure why you're comparing Austria with Ireland, I don't see the connection. Ireland is racist and nationalistic?

Northern Ireland has its problems, but the southern Ireland?

As for the voted pre-WW2, er.... what's that got to do with anything. A lot of people died, a lot of people were misplaced and a lot of people got out of there before the wall went up, so....

Ireland's has a lot of anti-Racists, just like the rest of Western Europe.

I think it's more genetic differences in East vs West in Europe.

Even though Irish aren't guilty of imperialism, they're no more racist than the rest of Western Europe.

Although, Austria on the cusp of Eastern, and Southern Europe is more racist than other Western Europeans, just like other Eastern, and Southern Europeans are.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I still disagree with your thesis why there is more right-wing attitude in the east and I already explained why it is.

Then why not talk about that instead of going off into the realms of nonsense?

You made your argument, I came back at it, then you went off on one.

Most of your point was "you can see this here" rather than actually making your own point with your own presentation.

Denazification happened under the British and American sectors, it did not happen under the Soviet sector. Racism in Germany is more prevalent in Soviet sectors that became the former East Germany.

Whether you committed crimes in WW2 isn't the issue here. The issue here is that West Germany people felt this guilt even though they didn't do anything.

It's part of the national psyche. You don't have to agree with this psyche or attitude, but it's clearly there. There are enough articles about it to fill a large library

Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?

"
Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?"

You wouldn't write such an article if Germany didn't feel a certain amount of collective guilt.

Denazification can mean various things. You could say the East carried out Denazification in that they had "re-education camps", but this was to make people "good Communists" or whatever.

The BIG difference between East Germany and West Germany was the "collective guilt".

The NPD existed in Germany from 1964. In 1969 they gained their highest ever West German result of 3.6% and then went downhill from there never to get above 1% again in West Germany.

In 2005 and 2009 they moved up to 1.8% of the vote, the best since 1969.

Membership is most in the East.

Now your argument was about unemployment. Well, the NPD started to do better in 2005. At this time unemployment in Germany hit a high. However unemployment DROPPED in the years after. By 2013 unemployment was much lower, okay it was still a bit higher in the former East Germany, but it was still much lower. So why the support for the NPD?

-

What about Austria the East Germans who didn't become Communist?

Why are they much more Nationalist than other German speakers too?

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

You should just go back to Stormfront, you post with the exact same name there so you are the Stormfront Sobieski.

Stormfront is fanatically pro-German as a collective, they should be embarrassed of themselves, making up garbage like Poles killed over 30,000 Germans before WW2 in Bromberg Massacre, which never happened.
And
giving excuses for Germans in WW2 destroying White cities like Warsaw, and Rotterdam.

 

[Mindful]

Then why not talk about that instead of going off into the realms of nonsense?

You made your argument, I came back at it, then you went off on one.

Most of your point was "you can see this here" rather than actually making your own point with your own presentation.

Denazification happened under the British and American sectors, it did not happen under the Soviet sector. Racism in Germany is more prevalent in Soviet sectors that became the former East Germany.

Whether you committed crimes in WW2 isn't the issue here. The issue here is that West Germany people felt this guilt even though they didn't do anything.

It's part of the national psyche. You don't have to agree with this psyche or attitude, but it's clearly there. There are enough articles about it to fill a large library

Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?

"
Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?"

You wouldn't write such an article if Germany didn't feel a certain amount of collective guilt.

Denazification can mean various things. You could say the East carried out Denazification in that they had "re-education camps", but this was to make people "good Communists" or whatever.

The BIG difference between East Germany and West Germany was the "collective guilt".

The NPD existed in Germany from 1964. In 1969 they gained their highest ever West German result of 3.6% and then went downhill from there never to get above 1% again in West Germany.

In 2005 and 2009 they moved up to 1.8% of the vote, the best since 1969.

Membership is most in the East.

Now your argument was about unemployment. Well, the NPD started to do better in 2005. At this time unemployment in Germany hit a high. However unemployment DROPPED in the years after. By 2013 unemployment was much lower, okay it was still a bit higher in the former East Germany, but it was still much lower. So why the support for the NPD?

-

What about Austria the East Germans who didn't become Communist?

Why are they much more Nationalist than other German speakers too?

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

I'm not sure why you're comparing Austria with Ireland, I don't see the connection. Ireland is racist and nationalistic?

Northern Ireland has its problems, but the southern Ireland?

As for the voted pre-WW2, er.... what's that got to do with anything. A lot of people died, a lot of people were misplaced and a lot of people got out of there before the wall went up, so....

Ireland's has a lot of anti-Racists, just like the rest of Western Europe.

I think it's more genetic differences in East vs West in Europe.

Even though Irish aren't guilty of imperialism, they're no more racist than the rest of Western Europe.

Although, Austria on the cusp of Eastern, and Southern Europe is more racist than other Western Europeans, just like other Eastern, and Southern Europeans are.

You forgot the religious component in Ireland.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

-

What about Austria the East Germans who didn't become Communist?

Why are they much more Nationalist than other German speakers too?

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

I'm not sure why you're comparing Austria with Ireland, I don't see the connection. Ireland is racist and nationalistic?

Northern Ireland has its problems, but the southern Ireland?

As for the voted pre-WW2, er.... what's that got to do with anything. A lot of people died, a lot of people were misplaced and a lot of people got out of there before the wall went up, so....

Ireland's has a lot of anti-Racists, just like the rest of Western Europe.

I think it's more genetic differences in East vs West in Europe.

Even though Irish aren't guilty of imperialism, they're no more racist than the rest of Western Europe.

Although, Austria on the cusp of Eastern, and Southern Europe is more racist than other Western Europeans, just like other Eastern, and Southern Europeans are.

You forgot the religious component in Ireland.

Catholic Ireland, and Catholic France are heavily anti-Racist.

Catholic nations like Poland, Italy, Austria, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary on the other hand are quite racist.

 

[Mindful]

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

I'm not sure why you're comparing Austria with Ireland, I don't see the connection. Ireland is racist and nationalistic?

Northern Ireland has its problems, but the southern Ireland?

As for the voted pre-WW2, er.... what's that got to do with anything. A lot of people died, a lot of people were misplaced and a lot of people got out of there before the wall went up, so....

Ireland's has a lot of anti-Racists, just like the rest of Western Europe.

I think it's more genetic differences in East vs West in Europe.

Even though Irish aren't guilty of imperialism, they're no more racist than the rest of Western Europe.

Although, Austria on the cusp of Eastern, and Southern Europe is more racist than other Western Europeans, just like other Eastern, and Southern Europeans are.

You forgot the religious component in Ireland.

Catholic Ireland, and Catholic France are heavily anti-Racist.

Catholic nations like Poland, Italy, Austria, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary on the other hand are quite racist.

You forgot the Northern Ireland issue.

There used to be irrational hatred towards Catholics from Protestants.

 

[Bleipriester]

Then why not talk about that instead of going off into the realms of nonsense?

You made your argument, I came back at it, then you went off on one.

Most of your point was "you can see this here" rather than actually making your own point with your own presentation.

Denazification happened under the British and American sectors, it did not happen under the Soviet sector. Racism in Germany is more prevalent in Soviet sectors that became the former East Germany.

Whether you committed crimes in WW2 isn't the issue here. The issue here is that West Germany people felt this guilt even though they didn't do anything.

It's part of the national psyche. You don't have to agree with this psyche or attitude, but it's clearly there. There are enough articles about it to fill a large library

Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?

"
Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?"

You wouldn't write such an article if Germany didn't feel a certain amount of collective guilt.

Denazification can mean various things. You could say the East carried out Denazification in that they had "re-education camps", but this was to make people "good Communists" or whatever.

The BIG difference between East Germany and West Germany was the "collective guilt".

The NPD existed in Germany from 1964. In 1969 they gained their highest ever West German result of 3.6% and then went downhill from there never to get above 1% again in West Germany.

In 2005 and 2009 they moved up to 1.8% of the vote, the best since 1969.

Membership is most in the East.

Now your argument was about unemployment. Well, the NPD started to do better in 2005. At this time unemployment in Germany hit a high. However unemployment DROPPED in the years after. By 2013 unemployment was much lower, okay it was still a bit higher in the former East Germany, but it was still much lower. So why the support for the NPD?

-

What about Austria the East Germans who didn't become Communist?

Why are they much more Nationalist than other German speakers too?

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

You should just go back to Stormfront, you post with the exact same name there so you are the Stormfront Sobieski.

Stormfront is fanatically pro-German as a collective, they should be embarrassed of themselves, making up garbage like Poles killed over 30,000 Germans before WW2 in Bromberg Massacre, which never happened.
And
giving excuses for Germans in WW2 destroying White cities like Warsaw, and Rotterdam.

Haha! Never happened! You´re funny guy, do you know?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

I'm not sure why you're comparing Austria with Ireland, I don't see the connection. Ireland is racist and nationalistic?

Northern Ireland has its problems, but the southern Ireland?

As for the voted pre-WW2, er.... what's that got to do with anything. A lot of people died, a lot of people were misplaced and a lot of people got out of there before the wall went up, so....

Ireland's has a lot of anti-Racists, just like the rest of Western Europe.

I think it's more genetic differences in East vs West in Europe.

Even though Irish aren't guilty of imperialism, they're no more racist than the rest of Western Europe.

Although, Austria on the cusp of Eastern, and Southern Europe is more racist than other Western Europeans, just like other Eastern, and Southern Europeans are.

You forgot the religious component in Ireland.

Catholic Ireland, and Catholic France are heavily anti-Racist.

Catholic nations like Poland, Italy, Austria, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary on the other hand are quite racist.

You forgot the Northern Ireland issue.

There used to be irrational hatred towards Catholics from Protestants.

There used to be, sure.

Now, as we speak Ireland is among the least racist in Europe.

Check out some of these maps.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Then why not talk about that instead of going off into the realms of nonsense?

You made your argument, I came back at it, then you went off on one.

Most of your point was "you can see this here" rather than actually making your own point with your own presentation.

Denazification happened under the British and American sectors, it did not happen under the Soviet sector. Racism in Germany is more prevalent in Soviet sectors that became the former East Germany.

Whether you committed crimes in WW2 isn't the issue here. The issue here is that West Germany people felt this guilt even though they didn't do anything.

It's part of the national psyche. You don't have to agree with this psyche or attitude, but it's clearly there. There are enough articles about it to fill a large library

Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?

"
Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?"

You wouldn't write such an article if Germany didn't feel a certain amount of collective guilt.

Denazification can mean various things. You could say the East carried out Denazification in that they had "re-education camps", but this was to make people "good Communists" or whatever.

The BIG difference between East Germany and West Germany was the "collective guilt".

The NPD existed in Germany from 1964. In 1969 they gained their highest ever West German result of 3.6% and then went downhill from there never to get above 1% again in West Germany.

In 2005 and 2009 they moved up to 1.8% of the vote, the best since 1969.

Membership is most in the East.

Now your argument was about unemployment. Well, the NPD started to do better in 2005. At this time unemployment in Germany hit a high. However unemployment DROPPED in the years after. By 2013 unemployment was much lower, okay it was still a bit higher in the former East Germany, but it was still much lower. So why the support for the NPD?

-

What about Austria the East Germans who didn't become Communist?

Why are they much more Nationalist than other German speakers too?

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

You should just go back to Stormfront, you post with the exact same name there so you are the Stormfront Sobieski.

Stormfront is fanatically pro-German as a collective, they should be embarrassed of themselves, making up garbage like Poles killed over 30,000 Germans before WW2 in Bromberg Massacre, which never happened.
And
giving excuses for Germans in WW2 destroying White cities like Warsaw, and Rotterdam.

Bromberger Blutsonntag did happen, though I think approx 400-460 Germans were killed by you Polish peasants.

My opinion on Poland now is changed, Beata Szydło who is very popular with the population because of that Independence Day situation and The Usual Suspects From Outside demanding she do something and she did not, she has been forced to resign and Poland now has Mateusz Morawiecki as Prime Minister a man who cannot be a Patriot like Beata Szydło, she is hardcore on no Kebabs and Sub Saharan Africans being in Poland and well I now go 180 in the other way I am praying to Our Lord that the EU Commission make good on the sanctions on Poland threat and pull ALL of the money the EU gives you and that this Mateusz Morawiecki has to give in and Open Polands Borders, I want Poland flooded with Muslims and Africans, Poland needs the Cultural Enrichment.

Filthy Polish peasant that you are, my nation has a hardcore Patriotic Government to be sworn in on Monday and I add there is NOTHING racist about wanting to preserve and protect your Culture and Heritage, so stop babbling about how we are more racist than Ireland....Ireland a nation who for nearly 100 years fought the British for a United Ireland of the Irish, Ireland for the Irish now have a half Bombay Indian Homo as their Prime Minister who is committed to allowing more Muslims and Africans into Ireland so Ireland wants to Culturally Commit Suicide to illustrate how racist they are not.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

I'm not sure why you're comparing Austria with Ireland, I don't see the connection. Ireland is racist and nationalistic?

Northern Ireland has its problems, but the southern Ireland?

As for the voted pre-WW2, er.... what's that got to do with anything. A lot of people died, a lot of people were misplaced and a lot of people got out of there before the wall went up, so....

Ireland's has a lot of anti-Racists, just like the rest of Western Europe.

I think it's more genetic differences in East vs West in Europe.

Even though Irish aren't guilty of imperialism, they're no more racist than the rest of Western Europe.

Although, Austria on the cusp of Eastern, and Southern Europe is more racist than other Western Europeans, just like other Eastern, and Southern Europeans are.

You forgot the religious component in Ireland.

Catholic Ireland, and Catholic France are heavily anti-Racist.

Catholic nations like Poland, Italy, Austria, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary on the other hand are quite racist.

You forgot the Northern Ireland issue.

There used to be irrational hatred towards Catholics from Protestants.

There used to be, sure.

Now, as we speak Ireland is among the least racist in Europe.

Check out some of these maps.

^^^^ You are one of the most racist people at this forum, so pot meet kettle.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

-

What about Austria the East Germans who didn't become Communist?

Why are they much more Nationalist than other German speakers too?

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

You should just go back to Stormfront, you post with the exact same name there so you are the Stormfront Sobieski.

Stormfront is fanatically pro-German as a collective, they should be embarrassed of themselves, making up garbage like Poles killed over 30,000 Germans before WW2 in Bromberg Massacre, which never happened.
And
giving excuses for Germans in WW2 destroying White cities like Warsaw, and Rotterdam.

Bromberger Blutsonntag did happen, though I think approx 400-460 Germans were killed by you Polish peasants.

My opinion on Poland now is changed, Beata Szydło who is very popular with the population because of that Independence Day situation and The Usual Suspects From Outside demanding she do something and she did not, she has been forced to resign and Poland now has Mateusz Morawiecki as Prime Minister a man who cannot be a Patriot like Beata Szydło, she is hardcore on no Kebabs and Sub Saharan Africans being in Poland and well I now go 180 in the other way I am praying to Our Lord that the EU Commission make good on the sanctions on Poland threat and pull ALL of the money the EU gives you and that this Mateusz Morawiecki has to give in and Open Polands Borders, I want Poland flooded with Muslims and Africans, Poland needs the Cultural Enrichment.

Filthy Polish peasant that you are, my nation has a hardcore Patriotic Government to be sworn in on Monday and I add there is NOTHING racist about wanting to preserve and protect your Culture and Heritage, so stop babbling about how we are more racist than Ireland....Ireland a nation who for nearly 100 years fought the British for a United Ireland of the Irish, Ireland for the Irish now have a half Bombay Indian Homo as their Prime Minister who is committed to allowing more Muslims and Africans into Ireland so Ireland wants to Culturally Commit Suicide to illustrate how racist they are not.

So, you're praying for sanctions upon Poland from the EU?
Frigging hilarious.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Ireland's has a lot of anti-Racists, just like the rest of Western Europe.

I think it's more genetic differences in East vs West in Europe.

Even though Irish aren't guilty of imperialism, they're no more racist than the rest of Western Europe.

Although, Austria on the cusp of Eastern, and Southern Europe is more racist than other Western Europeans, just like other Eastern, and Southern Europeans are.

You forgot the religious component in Ireland.

Catholic Ireland, and Catholic France are heavily anti-Racist.

Catholic nations like Poland, Italy, Austria, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary on the other hand are quite racist.

You forgot the Northern Ireland issue.

There used to be irrational hatred towards Catholics from Protestants.

There used to be, sure.

Now, as we speak Ireland is among the least racist in Europe.

Check out some of these maps.

^^^^ You are one of the most racist people at this forum, so pot meet kettle.

I think racism is a good thing.
Thinking Blacks, Muslims, Gypsies, and Hispanics are our equals, is very simple-minded, and non-functioning for our societies.

 

[Correll]

Angry protests in Berlin next to the Hanukkah celebrations caused panic among Jews in Germany. The Central Council of Jews in Germany warned Jews to not to celebrate outside in the moment. The celebrations in Mülheim at the synagogue site are canceled and relocated to a synagogue in Duisburg.
"It is unbelievable, that I have to witness that a Jewish gathering cannot take place due to security concerns after 1933 - 45.", Mühlheim´s mayor Scholten (SPD) told Bild. But the SPD is also responsible for the situation, they have indiscriminately imported millions from everywhere, preferably lower-class Muslims.

Chanukka-Fest in Mülheim wegen Sicherheitsbedenken abgesagt - WELT

If you import a population you import their culture.


Anyone who is surprised by this is a moron, and should be reclassified as not competent to manage their own affairs.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

You should just go back to Stormfront, you post with the exact same name there so you are the Stormfront Sobieski.

Stormfront is fanatically pro-German as a collective, they should be embarrassed of themselves, making up garbage like Poles killed over 30,000 Germans before WW2 in Bromberg Massacre, which never happened.
And
giving excuses for Germans in WW2 destroying White cities like Warsaw, and Rotterdam.

Bromberger Blutsonntag did happen, though I think approx 400-460 Germans were killed by you Polish peasants.

My opinion on Poland now is changed, Beata Szydło who is very popular with the population because of that Independence Day situation and The Usual Suspects From Outside demanding she do something and she did not, she has been forced to resign and Poland now has Mateusz Morawiecki as Prime Minister a man who cannot be a Patriot like Beata Szydło, she is hardcore on no Kebabs and Sub Saharan Africans being in Poland and well I now go 180 in the other way I am praying to Our Lord that the EU Commission make good on the sanctions on Poland threat and pull ALL of the money the EU gives you and that this Mateusz Morawiecki has to give in and Open Polands Borders, I want Poland flooded with Muslims and Africans, Poland needs the Cultural Enrichment.

Filthy Polish peasant that you are, my nation has a hardcore Patriotic Government to be sworn in on Monday and I add there is NOTHING racist about wanting to preserve and protect your Culture and Heritage, so stop babbling about how we are more racist than Ireland....Ireland a nation who for nearly 100 years fought the British for a United Ireland of the Irish, Ireland for the Irish now have a half Bombay Indian Homo as their Prime Minister who is committed to allowing more Muslims and Africans into Ireland so Ireland wants to Culturally Commit Suicide to illustrate how racist they are not.

So, you're praying for sanctions upon Poland for the EU?
Frigging hilarious.

How is it hilarious? When it happens Poland is fucked it's either financially go down the toilet because already its a poor nation or take the Migrant Quota there is no third choice.

We fully support Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia and we probably will join the V4, we cannot trust Poland because they are too up Washington DCs buttocks because of their irrational paranoia that Russia is at any moment about to invade them we cannot trust them also because of Mateusz Morawiecki and his um history. We like Beata Szydło, her replacement we do not trust and the Polish population should know this is not a Patriot, you cannot be Loyal to two masters.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

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What about Austria the East Germans who didn't become Communist?

Why are they much more Nationalist than other German speakers too?

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

You should just go back to Stormfront, you post with the exact same name there so you are the Stormfront Sobieski.

Stormfront is fanatically pro-German as a collective, they should be embarrassed of themselves, making up garbage like Poles killed over 30,000 Germans before WW2 in Bromberg Massacre, which never happened.
And
giving excuses for Germans in WW2 destroying White cities like Warsaw, and Rotterdam.

Bromberger Blutsonntag did happen, though I think approx 400-460 Germans were killed by you Polish peasants.

There was no Bromberg Massacre before WW2, there was after WW2, which was provoked by local Germans collaborating with Nazi Germany to kill Polish people.

 

[Mindful]

You forgot the religious component in Ireland.

Catholic Ireland, and Catholic France are heavily anti-Racist.

Catholic nations like Poland, Italy, Austria, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary on the other hand are quite racist.

You forgot the Northern Ireland issue.

There used to be irrational hatred towards Catholics from Protestants.

There used to be, sure.

Now, as we speak Ireland is among the least racist in Europe.

Check out some of these maps.

^^^^ You are one of the most racist people at this forum, so pot meet kettle.

I think racism is a good thing.
Thinking Blacks, Muslims, Gypsies, and Hispanics are our equals, is very simple-minded, and non-functioning for our societies.

What do you mean "our equals"?

Who are our?

 

[Correll]

Well, why is Austria more Nationalist, and Racist than Ireland?
Surely, Austria has more guilt for WW2 than Ireland, no?

East Germany voted in the Nazis more too, it appears.

You should just go back to Stormfront, you post with the exact same name there so you are the Stormfront Sobieski.

Stormfront is fanatically pro-German as a collective, they should be embarrassed of themselves, making up garbage like Poles killed over 30,000 Germans before WW2 in Bromberg Massacre, which never happened.
And
giving excuses for Germans in WW2 destroying White cities like Warsaw, and Rotterdam.

Bromberger Blutsonntag did happen, though I think approx 400-460 Germans were killed by you Polish peasants.

My opinion on Poland now is changed, Beata Szydło who is very popular with the population because of that Independence Day situation and The Usual Suspects From Outside demanding she do something and she did not, she has been forced to resign and Poland now has Mateusz Morawiecki as Prime Minister a man who cannot be a Patriot like Beata Szydło, she is hardcore on no Kebabs and Sub Saharan Africans being in Poland and well I now go 180 in the other way I am praying to Our Lord that the EU Commission make good on the sanctions on Poland threat and pull ALL of the money the EU gives you and that this Mateusz Morawiecki has to give in and Open Polands Borders, I want Poland flooded with Muslims and Africans, Poland needs the Cultural Enrichment.

Filthy Polish peasant that you are, my nation has a hardcore Patriotic Government to be sworn in on Monday and I add there is NOTHING racist about wanting to preserve and protect your Culture and Heritage, so stop babbling about how we are more racist than Ireland....Ireland a nation who for nearly 100 years fought the British for a United Ireland of the Irish, Ireland for the Irish now have a half Bombay Indian Homo as their Prime Minister who is committed to allowing more Muslims and Africans into Ireland so Ireland wants to Culturally Commit Suicide to illustrate how racist they are not.

So, you're praying for sanctions upon Poland for the EU?
Frigging hilarious.

How is it hilarious? When it happens Poland is fucked it's either financially go down the toilet because already its a poor nation or take the Migrant Quota there is no third choice.

We fully support Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia and we probably will join the V4, we cannot trust Poland because they are too up Washington DCs buttocks because of their irrational paranoia that Russia is at any moment about to invade them we cannot trust them also because of Mateusz Morawiecki and his um history. We like Beata Szydło, her replacement we do not trust and the Polish population should know this is not a Patriot, you cannot be Loyal to two masters.

An economy will bounce back someday.


you let in a migrant population, your descendants will be cursing your name for a thousand years.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

You forgot the religious component in Ireland.

Catholic Ireland, and Catholic France are heavily anti-Racist.

Catholic nations like Poland, Italy, Austria, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary on the other hand are quite racist.

You forgot the Northern Ireland issue.

There used to be irrational hatred towards Catholics from Protestants.

There used to be, sure.

Now, as we speak Ireland is among the least racist in Europe.

Check out some of these maps.

^^^^ You are one of the most racist people at this forum, so pot meet kettle.

I think racism is a good thing.
Thinking Blacks, Muslims, Gypsies, and Hispanics are our equals, is very simple-minded, and non-functioning for our societies.

You need to make that mind up, either you bash nations you insist are racist or you are a racist you cannot do both. If you are a racist then stop bashing nations YOU insist are racist, logic dictates if YOU are a racist then the nations you are bashing you should worship.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Then why not talk about that instead of going off into the realms of nonsense?

You made your argument, I came back at it, then you went off on one.

Most of your point was "you can see this here" rather than actually making your own point with your own presentation.

Denazification happened under the British and American sectors, it did not happen under the Soviet sector. Racism in Germany is more prevalent in Soviet sectors that became the former East Germany.

Whether you committed crimes in WW2 isn't the issue here. The issue here is that West Germany people felt this guilt even though they didn't do anything.

It's part of the national psyche. You don't have to agree with this psyche or attitude, but it's clearly there. There are enough articles about it to fill a large library

Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?

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Are Today's Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?"

You wouldn't write such an article if Germany didn't feel a certain amount of collective guilt.

Denazification can mean various things. You could say the East carried out Denazification in that they had "re-education camps", but this was to make people "good Communists" or whatever.

The BIG difference between East Germany and West Germany was the "collective guilt".

The NPD existed in Germany from 1964. In 1969 they gained their highest ever West German result of 3.6% and then went downhill from there never to get above 1% again in West Germany.

In 2005 and 2009 they moved up to 1.8% of the vote, the best since 1969.

Membership is most in the East.

Now your argument was about unemployment. Well, the NPD started to do better in 2005. At this time unemployment in Germany hit a high. However unemployment DROPPED in the years after. By 2013 unemployment was much lower, okay it was still a bit higher in the former East Germany, but it was still much lower. So why the support for the NPD?

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What about Austria the East Germans who didn't become Communist?

Why are they much more Nationalist than other German speakers too?

The Austrians were basically told that they were taken over by the Germans, so it wasn't their fault. They didn't need to do any soul searching at all, and so they've remained more racist and more nationalistic.

Ha! They are where Adolf was made and many frenetically celebrated him.

Yes, I know that perfectly well.

I also know that 40% of Concentration Camp commanders came from Austria and 25% of camp workers came from Austria and when Hitler walked back into his country, a lot of people cheered.

But the problem here is that we're not talking about where Hitler was from, we're talking about something THAT HAPPENED.

We're talking about West Germany taking on the guilt from the Nazis because they were controlled by the West, they were free to talk about such things and they found something abhorrent in what had happened.

Whereas the Austrians were basically told, and basically convinced themselves, that this had nothing to do with them. The Anschluss was the Germans taking over their country, a GERMAN Hitler taking over and supposedly forcing Austria to participate. We're also talking about the Soviets not bothering too much with Denazification other than making sure people were good Communists, and then not having the debates the West had over what had happened, because the Soviets didn't care. This wasn't about morals for them, it was about power and superiority.

For the West they realized Nazis made good anti-Communists, so they stopped the denazification process after the big fish got fried, but they didn't want true Nazism back, they wanted Nazi-lite, so they pushed the guilt, the West Germans also wanted to deal with their past.

That's what we're talking about, stick to the program.

The West Germans did not want to "deal with the past". And they were not forced to the way it is today. It´s not "dealing with the past", it is learning how evil Germany is. I was in a West German School and here is the official history:
1933: Big Bang
1933: Nazi take over
1933 - 1945: Holocaust

And you are wrong about East Germany, too. There were no Soviets, the GDR was not part of the USSR. In GDR, the indoctrination was even worse but maybe different, since the GDR had some parallels to the Third Reich, for example a government youth (FDJ - ask Merkel, she was a functionary in the FDJ*). Racism, however was none of those. The WWII mainly took place between Germany and Russia, the rest is peanuts. And the Soviets now were the big brother of the Germans.

*For example: Secretary for agitation and propaganda

You aren't making an argument, you're just saying something didn't happen. I can't respond to nothing.