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Not that I approve of what certain Catholics have done or do believe in any manner but you are reaching a bit to far here. Trying to compare the Catholic Church to ACORN is like trying to say a bolt and an engine or one in the same. It puts you in that category with redean as an idiot type poster.Catholic charities get taxpayer money from the federal government via faith based initiatives. Since the righwingers have never objected to this, have never asked their representatives to stop funding Catholic charities I can only conclude that the rightwingers condone priests having sex with young boys.
Amazing hypocrisy in action.
And we are now left with one of two conclusions:
Either Obama is a serious idiot and the left was completely wrong about his intelligence.
Or
Obama is in this as deep as everyone else.
For the right, there is always only two sides, black or white, right or wrong, good or bad. Nothing in between. Ever. It's why they are the radicals.
And that's why liberals are idiots! Fact is what Acorn is doing is either right or wrong, there is no in between. And you (being the idiot that you are) don't seem to see anything wrong with our tax dollars funding a clearly corrupt organization.
Hate to bust your bubble here, but it's a privilege.Tax Exempt Status for the Church, is a Right, not a Privilege.
Catholic charities get taxpayer money from the federal government via faith based initiatives. Since the righwingers have never objected to this, have never asked their representatives to stop funding Catholic charities I can only conclude that the rightwingers condone priests having sex with young boys.
Amazing hypocrisy in action.
How much of the tax payers money is the Catholic church receiving? You see you have a choice as to whether or not to support the catholic church, but no choice in your tax dollars funding the corrupt Acorn.
We extend to churchs tax exempt status. True, it is not money in the collection plate, but it is agreeing to forgo revenue that the community could collect.
I's not taking money out of taxpayers pockets, so no.
Few bad apples? More than 30 ACORN officials have been convicted of fraud and new allegations of fraud are surfacing by the day. There are investigations currently going on in 14 states and now you have at least four videos (with more coming) that shows more corruption. Top level corruption? How about ACORN founder Wade Rathke and his embezzling brother Dale who embezzled nearly one million dollars?
How many ACORN officials have not been convicted of fraud?
Again, you're confusing the actions of employees and volunteers with the actions of the group as a whole. Without actual PROOF of a systematic problem, you have nothing.
Come back when those investigations provide proof against the operations of the group as a whole.
I will.
You can point to other wrongs, but it doesn't make what Acorn is doing right. But hey, I understand it's part of the liberal game play. Bottom line is you failed on all points.
I'm not excusing ACORN. I'm saying that at this point you only have dirt on employees and volunteers, not the group as a whole.
The founders brother embezzled nearly a million dollars, 30 Acorn officials have been convicted, ongoing investigations gong on in 14 states, four videos with about 12 more that's yet to be seen. How much evidence does it take to show the organization is corrupt?
How can anyone overlook the overwhelming evidence?
Good point. The Catholics have abused the taxpayers to a much greater extent than ACORN could ever hope to do.Not that I approve of what certain Catholics have done or do believe in any manner but you are reaching a bit to far here. Trying to compare the Catholic Church to ACORN is like trying to say a bolt and an engine or one in the same. It puts you in that category with redean as an idiot type poster.Catholic charities get taxpayer money from the federal government via faith based initiatives. Since the righwingers have never objected to this, have never asked their representatives to stop funding Catholic charities I can only conclude that the rightwingers condone priests having sex with young boys.
Amazing hypocrisy in action.
How can anyone overlook the overwhelming evidence?
Your definition of overwhelming evidence is different from mine. I suspect that your political views have lowered the bar, while I'd acknowledge that my own bias has probably raised it a bit.
What's going on with ACORN certainly doesn't look good, and some of the ACORN employees are clearly breaking the law. However, there's a difference between the organization and the employees, and a difference between investigation and criminal convictions.
"ACORN has been in legal trouble in several states with raid after raid on their offices by officials looking into voter fraud. More than 30 ACORN officials have been convicted of fraud and new allegations of fraud are surfacing by the day," Johanns said in a statement released Monday. "It's wrong to give tax dollars to a group with multiple convictions of undermining our democratic process and our laws. So, I'm introducing measures to stop the federal funding of ACORN."
Look who's talking.That's idiotic. I see you've given up your pretense of being objective.That was Herman Goering's defense at Nuremberg, that he had no idea what the entity he helped create and run were doing.Investigate, find out what the truth is, and punish the perpetrators. That's it.
When it comes to Obama's connection to ACORN, which according to some somehow discredits him and his overall intentions and quality as the US president: as long as Obama was not aware of actions of the few individuals involved in these scandals, there is nothing one can accuse him of.
Stop the bullshit parade and start proper and thorough investigation.
Thank you very much.
For the moronic, there is never guilt, proof or responsibility for their actions, everything is defelction, minutia or moral equivilency.I await your next pearl of wisdom on how clueless you believe Obama is.
And we are now left with one of two conclusions:
Either Obama is a serious idiot and the left was completely wrong about his intelligence.
Or
Obama is in this as deep as everyone else.
For the right, there is always only two sides, black or white, right or wrong, good or bad. Nothing in between. Ever. It's why they are the radicals.
Not officials, employees. And I don't think "more than thirty" is even correct. Another liar heard from.How can anyone overlook the overwhelming evidence?
Your definition of overwhelming evidence is different from mine. I suspect that your political views have lowered the bar, while I'd acknowledge that my own bias has probably raised it a bit.
What's going on with ACORN certainly doesn't look good, and some of the ACORN employees are clearly breaking the law. However, there's a difference between the organization and the employees, and a difference between investigation and criminal convictions.
More than 30 Acorn officials have been convicted, this is the third time I referenced this. But yet you seem to dismiss it. The employees make up the organization, if not for the employees there would be NO organization. Sheesh!!! You cannot be this stupid!!! Can you?
Organizations:
Social unit of people, systematically arranged and managed to meet a need or to pursue collective goals on a continuing basis. All organizations have a management structure that determines relationships between functions and positions, and subdivides and delegates roles, responsibilities, and authority to carry out defined tasks. Organizations are open systems in that they affect and are affected by the environment beyond their boundaries
Republican Lawmakers Turn Up the Heat on ACORN - Political News - FOXNews.com"ACORN has been in legal trouble in several states with raid after raid on their offices by officials looking into voter fraud. More than 30 ACORN officials have been convicted of fraud and new allegations of fraud are surfacing by the day," Johanns said in a statement released Monday. "It's wrong to give tax dollars to a group with multiple convictions of undermining our democratic process and our laws. So, I'm introducing measures to stop the federal funding of ACORN."
More than 30 Acorn officials have been convicted, this is the third time I referenced this. But yet you seem to dismiss it. The employees make up the organization, if not for the employees there would be NO organization. Sheesh!!! You cannot be this stupid!!! Can you?
Not officials, employees. And I don't think "more than thirty" is even correct. Another liar heard from.Your definition of overwhelming evidence is different from mine. I suspect that your political views have lowered the bar, while I'd acknowledge that my own bias has probably raised it a bit.
What's going on with ACORN certainly doesn't look good, and some of the ACORN employees are clearly breaking the law. However, there's a difference between the organization and the employees, and a difference between investigation and criminal convictions.
More than 30 Acorn officials have been convicted, this is the third time I referenced this. But yet you seem to dismiss it. The employees make up the organization, if not for the employees there would be NO organization. Sheesh!!! You cannot be this stupid!!! Can you?
Organizations:
Social unit of people, systematically arranged and managed to meet a need or to pursue collective goals on a continuing basis. All organizations have a management structure that determines relationships between functions and positions, and subdivides and delegates roles, responsibilities, and authority to carry out defined tasks. Organizations are open systems in that they affect and are affected by the environment beyond their boundaries
Republican Lawmakers Turn Up the Heat on ACORN - Political News - FOXNews.com"ACORN has been in legal trouble in several states with raid after raid on their offices by officials looking into voter fraud. More than 30 ACORN officials have been convicted of fraud and new allegations of fraud are surfacing by the day," Johanns said in a statement released Monday. "It's wrong to give tax dollars to a group with multiple convictions of undermining our democratic process and our laws. So, I'm introducing measures to stop the federal funding of ACORN."
More than 30 Acorn officials have been convicted, this is the third time I referenced this. But yet you seem to dismiss it. The employees make up the organization, if not for the employees there would be NO organization. Sheesh!!! You cannot be this stupid!!! Can you?
30 out of how many? Is 30 employees even 10% of their workforce? 5%? Is it even 1%?
You're jumping down the throats of a lot of people based on the actions of a few. If ACORN is as corrupt as you say, more will come out. The truth always does. I'd prefer to wait until we're talking about more than a small percentage of the organization before I toss the organization as a whole into jail. You're a bit too impatient to wait. Slow down. Relax. Those convicted are in jail, others are investigated. Time will either prove you right or wrong.
More than 30 Acorn officials have been convicted, this is the third time I referenced this. But yet you seem to dismiss it. The employees make up the organization, if not for the employees there would be NO organization. Sheesh!!! You cannot be this stupid!!! Can you?
30 out of how many? Is 30 employees even 10% of their workforce? 5%? Is it even 1%?
You're jumping down the throats of a lot of people based on the actions of a few. If ACORN is as corrupt as you say, more will come out. The truth always does. I'd prefer to wait until we're talking about more than a small percentage of the organization before I toss the organization as a whole into jail. You're a bit too impatient to wait. Slow down. Relax. Those convicted are in jail, others are investigated. Time will either prove you right or wrong.
I'll tell you what, you sit and wait while the us free minded thinkers save your tax dollars from a corrupt organization.
A former SEIU 1000 chapter president and California Department of Insurance employee who pleaded no contest to child pornography has been sentenced to 25 years in state prison.
Not officials, employees. And I don't think "more than thirty" is even correct. Another liar heard from.Your definition of overwhelming evidence is different from mine. I suspect that your political views have lowered the bar, while I'd acknowledge that my own bias has probably raised it a bit.
What's going on with ACORN certainly doesn't look good, and some of the ACORN employees are clearly breaking the law. However, there's a difference between the organization and the employees, and a difference between investigation and criminal convictions.
More than 30 Acorn officials have been convicted, this is the third time I referenced this. But yet you seem to dismiss it. The employees make up the organization, if not for the employees there would be NO organization. Sheesh!!! You cannot be this stupid!!! Can you?
Organizations:
Social unit of people, systematically arranged and managed to meet a need or to pursue collective goals on a continuing basis. All organizations have a management structure that determines relationships between functions and positions, and subdivides and delegates roles, responsibilities, and authority to carry out defined tasks. Organizations are open systems in that they affect and are affected by the environment beyond their boundaries
Republican Lawmakers Turn Up the Heat on ACORN - Political News - FOXNews.com"ACORN has been in legal trouble in several states with raid after raid on their offices by officials looking into voter fraud. More than 30 ACORN officials have been convicted of fraud and new allegations of fraud are surfacing by the day," Johanns said in a statement released Monday. "It's wrong to give tax dollars to a group with multiple convictions of undermining our democratic process and our laws. So, I'm introducing measures to stop the federal funding of ACORN."
Ame®icano;1522858 said:30 out of how many? Is 30 employees even 10% of their workforce? 5%? Is it even 1%?
You're jumping down the throats of a lot of people based on the actions of a few. If ACORN is as corrupt as you say, more will come out. The truth always does. I'd prefer to wait until we're talking about more than a small percentage of the organization before I toss the organization as a whole into jail. You're a bit too impatient to wait. Slow down. Relax. Those convicted are in jail, others are investigated. Time will either prove you right or wrong.
I'll tell you what, you sit and wait while the us free minded thinkers save your tax dollars from a corrupt organization.
I agree. Truth is coming out. Like in this case... I know, I know, it's not ACORN... it's just SEIU.
Former SEIU President Sentenced to 25 Years
A former SEIU 1000 chapter president and California Department of Insurance employee who pleaded no contest to child pornography has been sentenced to 25 years in state prison.
I'll tell you what, you sit and wait while the us free minded thinkers save your tax dollars from a corrupt organization.
I'll tell you what, you sit and wait while the us free minded thinkers save your tax dollars from a corrupt organization.
Please investigate. Either you're right, and you've done the community a service, or you're wrong, and a honest group gets its day in court to clear its name.
Just be willing to take this the rest of the way. Apply the same litmus test to RNC and DNC affiliated organizations, or you're just indulging in witch hunts.
Please list the 30 officials that have been convicted or admit you are lying.I'll tell you what, you sit and wait while the us free minded thinkers save your tax dollars from a corrupt organization.
Please investigate. Either you're right, and you've done the community a service, or you're wrong, and a honest group gets its day in court to clear its name.
Just be willing to take this the rest of the way. Apply the same litmus test to RNC and DNC affiliated organizations, or you're just indulging in witch hunts.
An honest group? Explain to me what makes them honest. Was it the fact that many of them are currently being investigated for voter fraud (in 14 states) and over 30 have already been convicted or is it the videos showing Acorn giving out tax advice on operating a prostitution business, including advice on the sex trafficking of underage children being brought in from Central America for child prostitution that makes them honest?
For you to cal them an "honest " group is not being honest.
Show me any RNC or other DNC group (besides Acorn and SEIU) that's involved in corruption that's currently going on and not being reported.
