Good place for gun statistics…

From your source:

* During 2007–2014, the fatality rate of those who attempted suicide via:


  • firearm was 90%.
Meaning that 90% of the time, if someone tries suicide via firearm, they succeed.

The next highest most prevalent choice of suicide that was successful was drowning

  • drowning was 56%.
meaning that about 1/2 the time those that tried drowning, lived through the foolish attempt to kill one self.



Accoding to NAMI, 46% of those who die by suicide have diagnosed mental illness. Considering that most do not seek formal counseling--only about 1 in 5 seek counseling of any kind and 9.5% seek formal counseling, the 46% is just the tip of the iceberg.


Bottom line...mental illness and guns do not mix well.

 
From your source:

* During 2007–2014, the fatality rate of those who attempted suicide via:


  • firearm was 90%.
Meaning that 90% of the time, if someone tries suicide via firearm, they succeed.

The next highest most prevalent choice of suicide that was successful was drowning

  • drowning was 56%.
meaning that about 1/2 the time those that tried drowning, lived through the foolish attempt to kill one self.



Accoding to NAMI, 46% of those who die by suicide have diagnosed mental illness. Considering that most do not seek formal counseling--only about 1 in 5 seek counseling of any kind and 9.5% seek formal counseling, the 46% is just the tip of the iceberg.


Bottom line...mental illness and guns do not mix well.

Nor do mental illness and knives.
Nor do mental illness and hammers.
Nor do mental illness and drugs.
Nor do mental illness and cars.
Nor do mental illness and bridges.
Nor do mental illness and helium. (I actually knew someone who ended her life with this method)

Did you have a point to make?
 
Nor do mental illness and knives.
Nor do mental illness and hammers.
Nor do mental illness and drugs.
Nor do mental illness and cars.
Nor do mental illness and bridges.
Nor do mental illness and helium. (I actually knew someone who ended her life with this method)

Did you have a point to make?
If guns are involved, death from suicide is much more a certainty.
 
From your source:

* During 2007–2014, the fatality rate of those who attempted suicide via:


  • firearm was 90%.
Meaning that 90% of the time, if someone tries suicide via firearm, they succeed.

The next highest most prevalent choice of suicide that was successful was drowning

  • drowning was 56%.
meaning that about 1/2 the time those that tried drowning, lived through the foolish attempt to kill one self.



Accoding to NAMI, 46% of those who die by suicide have diagnosed mental illness. Considering that most do not seek formal counseling--only about 1 in 5 seek counseling of any kind and 9.5% seek formal counseling, the 46% is just the tip of the iceberg.


Bottom line...mental illness and guns do not mix well.



And again....guns are not the factor in suicide....I know you desperately want them to be....but you would have to explain how it is that South Korea, Japan, China, with extreme gun control, have higher suicide rates than we do....

Do you always have to be this stupid?
 
Your source proves that when a gun is involved, 9 out of 10 times, a suicide is successful.


Again, explain how it is that South Korea, Japan, China have higher suicide rates than the U.S..........

What that number shows is that when someone wants to die, they will succeed....just like they do in South Korea, Japan and China....
 
Again, explain how it is that South Korea, Japan, China have higher suicide rates than the U.S..........

What that number shows is that when someone wants to die, they will succeed....just like they do in South Korea, Japan and China....
And when they use a gun here, it's 90% effective, link to their suicide rates....attempts and successes please.
 
And when they use a gun here, it's 90% effective, link to their suicide rates....attempts and successes please.


Moron, in Japan they hang themselves or jump off of buildings..

2020

Suicide rate

Japan.....22.9

U.S.....13.5


 
I know, you don't understand that Japan has more people commit suicide and that guns aren't the issue........try harder, ask some conservative people around you, they might be able to help you....
The statistics in your link (if you remember the subject of your own thread) was that when someone in the US tries to kill themselves using a gun, 9 out of 10 times, they do.

If you don't like the statistic...too bad.
 
The statistics in your link (if you remember the subject of your own thread) was that when someone in the US tries to kill themselves using a gun, 9 out of 10 times, they do.

If you don't like the statistic...too bad.


If you can't understand that Japan has extreme gun control...only criminals and cops have access to guns......and they kill themselves at higher rates than Americans with guns do...that means, you doofus...that guns are not the issue.

The issue is the determination of the person seeking to kill themselves....


Fact Check, Gun Control and Suicide

There is no relation between suicide rate and gun ownership rates around the world.

According to the 2016 World Health Statistics report, (2) suicide rates in the four countries cited as having restrictive gun control laws have suicide rates that are comparable to that in the U. S.: Australia, 11.6, Canada, 11.4, France, 15.8, UK, 7.0, and USA 13.7 suicides/100,000. By comparison, Japan has among the highest suicide rates in the world, 23.1/100,000, but gun ownership is extremely rare, 0.6 guns/100 people.

Suicide is a mental health issue. If guns are not available other means are used. Poisoning, in fact, is the most common method of suicide for U. S. females according to the Washington Post (34 % of suicides), and suffocation the second most common method for males (27%).

Secondly, gun ownership rates in France and Canada are not low, as is implied in the Post article. The rate of gun ownership in the U. S. is indeed high at 88.8 guns/100 residents, but gun ownership rates are also among the world’s highest in the other countries cited. Gun ownership rates in these countries are are as follows: Australia, 15, Canada, 30.8, France, 31.2, and UK 6.2 per 100 residents. (3,4) Gun ownership rates in Saudia Arabia are comparable to that in Canada and France, with 37.8 guns per 100 Saudi residents, yet the lowest suicide rate in the world is in Saudia Arabia (0.3 suicides per 100,000).

Third, recent statistics in the state of Florida show that nearly one third of the guns used in suicides are obtained illegally, putting these firearm deaths beyond control through gun laws.(5)


Fourth, the primary factors affecting suicide rates are personal stresses, cultural, economic, religious factors and demographics. According to the WHO statistics, the highest rates of suicide in the world are in the Republic of Korea, with 36.8 suicides per 100,000, but India, Japan, Russia, and Hungary all have rates above 20 per 100,000; roughly twice as high as the U.S. and the four countries that are the basis for the Post’s calculation that gun control would reduce U.S. suicide rates by 20 to 38 percent. Lebanon, Oman, and Iraq all have suicide rates below 1.1 per 100,000 people--less than 1/10 the suicide rate in the U. S., and Afghanistan, Algeria, Jamaica, Haiti, and Egypt have low suicide rates that are below 4 per 100,000 in contrast to 13.7 suicides/100,000 in the U. S.
 
If you can't understand that Japan has extreme gun control...only criminals and cops have access to guns......and they kill themselves at higher rates than Americans with guns do...that means, you doofus...that guns are not the issue.

The issue is the determination of the person seeking to kill themselves....


Fact Check, Gun Control and Suicide

There is no relation between suicide rate and gun ownership rates around the world.

According to the 2016 World Health Statistics report, (2) suicide rates in the four countries cited as having restrictive gun control laws have suicide rates that are comparable to that in the U. S.: Australia, 11.6, Canada, 11.4, France, 15.8, UK, 7.0, and USA 13.7 suicides/100,000. By comparison, Japan has among the highest suicide rates in the world, 23.1/100,000, but gun ownership is extremely rare, 0.6 guns/100 people.

Suicide is a mental health issue. If guns are not available other means are used. Poisoning, in fact, is the most common method of suicide for U. S. females according to the Washington Post (34 % of suicides), and suffocation the second most common method for males (27%).

Secondly, gun ownership rates in France and Canada are not low, as is implied in the Post article. The rate of gun ownership in the U. S. is indeed high at 88.8 guns/100 residents, but gun ownership rates are also among the world’s highest in the other countries cited. Gun ownership rates in these countries are are as follows: Australia, 15, Canada, 30.8, France, 31.2, and UK 6.2 per 100 residents. (3,4) Gun ownership rates in Saudia Arabia are comparable to that in Canada and France, with 37.8 guns per 100 Saudi residents, yet the lowest suicide rate in the world is in Saudia Arabia (0.3 suicides per 100,000).

Third, recent statistics in the state of Florida show that nearly one third of the guns used in suicides are obtained illegally, putting these firearm deaths beyond control through gun laws.(5)


Fourth, the primary factors affecting suicide rates are personal stresses, cultural, economic, religious factors and demographics. According to the WHO statistics, the highest rates of suicide in the world are in the Republic of Korea, with 36.8 suicides per 100,000, but India, Japan, Russia, and Hungary all have rates above 20 per 100,000; roughly twice as high as the U.S. and the four countries that are the basis for the Post’s calculation that gun control would reduce U.S. suicide rates by 20 to 38 percent. Lebanon, Oman, and Iraq all have suicide rates below 1.1 per 100,000 people--less than 1/10 the suicide rate in the U. S., and Afghanistan, Algeria, Jamaica, Haiti, and Egypt have low suicide rates that are below 4 per 100,000 in contrast to 13.7 suicides/100,000 in the U. S.

And, according to your stat, 9 out of 10 times someone in the US tries to commit suicide with a gun, they are successful.

If this pisses you off...too bad.

I'm quite happy to see you so upset though.
 
From your source:

* During 2007–2014, the fatality rate of those who attempted suicide via:


  • firearm was 90%.
Meaning that 90% of the time, if someone tries suicide via firearm, they succeed.

The next highest most prevalent choice of suicide that was successful was drowning

  • drowning was 56%.
meaning that about 1/2 the time those that tried drowning, lived through the foolish attempt to kill one self.



Accoding to NAMI, 46% of those who die by suicide have diagnosed mental illness. Considering that most do not seek formal counseling--only about 1 in 5 seek counseling of any kind and 9.5% seek formal counseling, the 46% is just the tip of the iceberg.


Bottom line...mental illness and guns do not mix well.

Suicide is a choice and every person has the absolute right to decide whether they live or die
 

Forum List

Back
Top