GOP Committing Suicide?

[2aguy]

The far right and Trumpistsas are trying to destroy the GOP.

The real GOP and its mainstream politically will strangle the Trump reactionaries for good at the Convention.

Yeah.....they will strangle their own base...and then think they can win the election...as Rush said,they don't care about winning the election.....they just want to keep their leadership posts in congress...they have theirs and they can deal with a hilary Presidency........so they will screw over their own, unlike the democrats....who know that power is the key and who will do anything to get that power....

If the 'base' can be strangled, it ain't the base.

The leadership makes the rules at the convention, not the base...

 

[2aguy]

The question....

Can the GOP use convention rules to hand the nomination to a guy, Kasich, who won only one state , or to someone who didn't even run in the primary, against frontrunners who will have won 49 states between them?

The correct answer....

This should not even be a question.....

The fact that it is being discussed shows that the leadership of the GOP is the problem...not the people actually voting.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The far right and Trumpistsas are trying to destroy the GOP.

The real GOP and its mainstream politically will strangle the Trump reactionaries for good at the Convention.

Yeah.....they will strangle their own base...and then think they can win the election...as Rush said,they don't care about winning the election.....they just want to keep their leadership posts in congress...they have theirs and they can deal with a hilary Presidency........so they will screw over their own, unlike the democrats....who know that power is the key and who will do anything to get that power....

If the 'base' can be strangled, it ain't the base.

The leadership makes the rules at the convention, not the base...

They are the ones who have been chosen to make the rules, so they are the mainstream at the moment. The far right has overturn that if it wants to be the base. It will fail.

 

[daws101]

The game plan is destroying the front runners (Trump and Cruz) so that a "moderate" candidate can be nominated, then hoping that Hillary implodes and their candidate is elected. If this strategy fails, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs and be replaced by a new political party. Is it worth the risk?

I am so tired of pundits and partisan hacks claiming the GoP is dying.

No it isn't. Trump is a textbook right wing politician who will win the nomination, can likely win the general election, and will pull this country farther and farther to the right.

the establishment doesn't like him sure, but the establishment isn't "The party"

Were you dropped on your head many times as a child?

 

[FJO]

Nobody can tell me that all 17 Republican contenders for the Presidency were normal people.

Obviously, a large portion of them were egotistical falsely hopeful cockeyed optimists, who would have known - if they had not been blinded by self aggrandizement - that they had not even the slightest chance.

When a party is so full of pretenders, that party is doomed to fail, due to internal strife. As we see.

When the few remaining leftovers consider their own pride ahead of their party, or more tragically, ahead of their country, they deserve to be tossed aside as unworthy for the highest office in the land.

They should get together in a secluded room, work out a deal and show a united face to save their own face and their party.

There is no other way to beat the Democrats.

Kasich 2016

I agree. He is a totally decent person, with brains and integrity not matched by any other contender in either party.

Unfortunately, Americans are not interested in either of those. Nor are they interested in knowledge and wisdom.

Americans are interested in charisma, which is nothing but just another word for bright twinkle without substance.

Kasich is a dufus who, if the GOP gives him the nomination will be the next in a long line of losers.....added to the list of such famous losers as McCain, Romeny, Dole....who also didn't like the very people who were most inclined to vote for them......

Not like that, at all. Dole, McCain and Romney were nominated because the idiots in GOP "management" thought that the nomination MUST go to the one next in line.

None of the others you mention have or ever had the financial acuity of John Kasich. None of them were everyday Americans, like Kasich. None of them - presumably - balanced their own bank book without a chartered accountant. None of them would have had the humility to ask an advisor for an opinion.

At this time my only complaint about Kasich is that he is just like all the others: Make a pledge to support the eventual nominee, but piss on your own pledge whenever convenient.

Having said all that, not only Kasich, but any of the remaining Republican contenders would make a better President than either of the convict-in-waiting or the Marxist wearing "Independent/Democrat" clothes.

 

[Londoner]

The game plan is destroying the front runners (Trump and Cruz) so that a "moderate" candidate can be nominated, then hoping that Hillary implodes and their candidate is elected. If this strategy fails, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs and be replaced by a new political party. Is it worth the risk?

There is no such thing as a moderate Republican anymore. Your candidates all have the same basic positions. If a Republican doesn't vote for the special interests that fund your party, than that candidate is removed in a primary. If a Republican doesn't spew the correct talking points on taxes, regulation, abortion, Islamophobia and immigration, than that candidate is removed.

The so-called establishment - think Mitch McConnell - is destroying the Constitution and leaving the Supreme Court in a crisis for over a year. This has never happened before. You are subverting the Constitution by disenfranchising the voters who elected this president to office by wide margins in two elections. Your party has become fully radicalized, from Cruz all the way to Jeb and Kasich.

The GOP will survive this election. There will always be a portion of angry, uneducated Americans who are easily manipulated by fear of the terrorist, socialist, liberal demon. There will always be a portion of Americans who give power to demagogues. The problem with Trump is that he says things out loud (-he is the oaf who doesn't know how to keep quiet in mixed company). Trump is being punished not for his positions, but because he doesn't know how to play the political language game. He doesn't have handlers to tell him how to speak about women and minorities, but make not mistake: Trump, Cruz, McConnell are the same people. At the end of the day, they are selling the same Revanchism to people with very little post high school education.

This election is not being lost by the establishment, it's being lost by Talk Radio, which has cultivated a group of voters who are incapable of selecting a viable general election candidate.

 

[amrchaos]

I have a question!

How does the leadership in the GOP lose their position of power after a Trump run in the general?

Answer: They don't!

The establishment want power in the government, not maintain their roles in the party! Their position is relatively secured!

LOL--The people voting for Trump just wanted him to trash Hillary,originally. It was nothing more!

LOL--most of you forgot the real reason behind the true Trump supporters! Winning the election or changing the party leadership has nothing to do with this!

Please, stop with the conspiracies behind the Trump surge! You guys are way off base!

 

[BluesLegend]

Rush has made the point many times that Trump is doing what the GOP establishment has said it must do for decades, attract independents and democrats yet the GOP establishment is a raging caldron of hatred that its Trump actually pulling this off. McCain failed, Romney failed, Dole failed, its nothing but RINO road kill then along comes Trump who simply tells the GOP establishment the emperor has no clothes and they freak.

I agree with you.
The only problem is Trump is doing all he can to lose it himself. Why? Isn't he smart enough to know what to say and what not to say? I think he is afraid he is going to win and not sure he wants to face all that.

Trump is under attack from all corners, the media left and right, and both Democratic party and GOP establishments and he's still standing. Any candidate I can think of in the last 25 years would have folded already under that assault.

 

[guno]

The gop is dying of natural causes , old white Christians are shrinking in number and faster as the days go by

R.I.P., GOP: Party of old, disillusioned white people is dying a slow death

The decline in the white percentage of the electorate has coincided with stronger Democratic identification and voting patterns among nonwhite voters, as well as increasingly more liberal social views among higher-educated white professionals.”

R.I.P., GOP: Party of old, disillusioned white people is dying a slow death

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The game plan is destroying the front runners (Trump and Cruz) so that a "moderate" candidate can be nominated, then hoping that Hillary implodes and their candidate is elected. If this strategy fails, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs and be replaced by a new political party. Is it worth the risk?

Nobody is replacing the GOP. They'll still be here losing elections as they cater to their extremist elements.

 

[kaz]

The game plan is destroying the front runners (Trump and Cruz) so that a "moderate" candidate can be nominated, then hoping that Hillary implodes and their candidate is elected. If this strategy fails, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs and be replaced by a new political party. Is it worth the risk?

It's not going to happen. Sure, they have that wet dream, but even the Republicans know that Cruz or Trump supporters will mostly support the other in the end, but if neither wins they alienate both of them entirely. It's not feasible

 

[kaz]

The game plan is destroying the front runners (Trump and Cruz) so that a "moderate" candidate can be nominated, then hoping that Hillary implodes and their candidate is elected. If this strategy fails, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs and be replaced by a new political party. Is it worth the risk?

Nobody is replacing the GOP. They'll still be here losing elections as they cater to their extremist elements.

Extremists? They've been nominating the most useless candidates, not the extreme ones

 

[amrchaos]

Just remember folks

The second the media attacked Trump was the second many right wingers decided to support Trump!

Dropped at least 5 good choices in that instant Hell, Rand Paul was decent---but you used the left to make your decisions!

Some of you argued that the left was,scared of Trump! Where is that argument now?

No one is scared of Trumpet! He is a joke. But it is taking some of you to long to accept this!

Go Trump! Ha ha ha!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Any party that caters to the extreme, or let's the extreme not support wholeheartedly the candidate chosen, deserves to lose.

 

[daws101]

Rush has made the point many times that Trump is doing what the GOP establishment has said it must do for decades, attract independents and democrats yet the GOP establishment is a raging caldron of hatred that its Trump actually pulling this off. McCain failed, Romney failed, Dole failed, its nothing but RINO road kill then along comes Trump who simply tells the GOP establishment the emperor has no clothes and they freak.

I agree with you.
The only problem is Trump is doing all he can to lose it himself. Why? Isn't he smart enough to know what to say and what not to say? I think he is afraid he is going to win and not sure he wants to face all that.

Trump is under attack from all corners, the media left and right, and both Democratic party and GOP establishments and he's still standing. Any candidate I can enthink of in the last 25 years would have folded already under that assault.

only because he too pretentious to know when he's getting his ass handed to him.

 

[Iceweasel]

The game plan is destroying the front runners (Trump and Cruz) so that a "moderate" candidate can be nominated, then hoping that Hillary implodes and their candidate is elected. If this strategy fails, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs and be replaced by a new political party. Is it worth the risk?

There is no such thing as a moderate Republican anymore. Your candidates all have the same basic positions. If a Republican doesn't vote for the special interests that fund your party, than that candidate is removed in a primary. If a Republican doesn't spew the correct talking points on taxes, regulation, abortion, Islamophobia and immigration, than that candidate is removed.

The so-called establishment - think Mitch McConnell - is destroying the Constitution and leaving the Supreme Court in a crisis for over a year. This has never happened before. You are subverting the Constitution by disenfranchising the voters who elected this president to office by wide margins in two elections. Your party has become fully radicalized, from Cruz all the way to Jeb and Kasich.

The GOP will survive this election. There will always be a portion of angry, uneducated Americans who are easily manipulated by fear of the terrorist, socialist, liberal demon. There will always be a portion of Americans who give power to demagogues. The problem with Trump is that he says things out loud (-he is the oaf who doesn't know how to keep quiet in mixed company). Trump is being punished not for his positions, but because he doesn't know how to play the political language game. He doesn't have handlers to tell him how to speak about women and minorities, but make not mistake: Trump, Cruz, McConnell are the same people. At the end of the day, they are selling the same Revanchism to people with very little post high school education.

This election is not being lost by the establishment, it's being lost by Talk Radio, which has cultivated a group of voters who are incapable of selecting a viable general election candidate.

No, the candidates don't have the same positions and there are too many moderate Republicans in office as it is. That's how the TEA party got started.

Thanks for proving how clueless you are about American politics.

 

[daws101]

The game plan is destroying the front runners (Trump and Cruz) so that a "moderate" candidate can be nominated, then hoping that Hillary implodes and their candidate is elected. If this strategy fails, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs and be replaced by a new political party. Is it worth the risk?

There is no such thing as a moderate Republican anymore. Your candidates all have the same basic positions. If a Republican doesn't vote for the special interests that fund your party, than that candidate is removed in a primary. If a Republican doesn't spew the correct talking points on taxes, regulation, abortion, Islamophobia and immigration, than that candidate is removed.

The so-called establishment - think Mitch McConnell - is destroying the Constitution and leaving the Supreme Court in a crisis for over a year. This has never happened before. You are subverting the Constitution by disenfranchising the voters who elected this president to office by wide margins in two elections. Your party has become fully radicalized, from Cruz all the way to Jeb and Kasich.

The GOP will survive this election. There will always be a portion of angry, uneducated Americans who are easily manipulated by fear of the terrorist, socialist, liberal demon. There will always be a portion of Americans who give power to demagogues. The problem with Trump is that he says things out loud (-he is the oaf who doesn't know how to keep quiet in mixed company). Trump is being punished not for his positions, but because he doesn't know how to play the political language game. He doesn't have handlers to tell him how to speak about women and minorities, but make not mistake: Trump, Cruz, McConnell are the same people. At the end of the day, they are selling the same Revanchism to people with very little post high school education.

This election is not being lost by the establishment, it's being lost by Talk Radio, which has cultivated a group of voters who are incapable of selecting a viable general election candidate.

No, the candidates don't have the same positions and there are too many moderate Republicans in office as it is. That's how the TEA party got started.

Thanks for proving how clueless you are about American politics.

BullShit.

 

[FJO]

The gop is dying of natural causes , old white Christians are shrinking in number and faster as the days go by

R.I.P., GOP: Party of old, disillusioned white people is dying a slow death

R.I.P., GOP: Party of old, disillusioned white people is dying a slow death

Without white people in history you would not be able live in any country that would allow you spew your nonsense.

In a predominantly black country you would be in jail, if you spewed so much and so poisonous crap about blacks as you do about whites in this predominantly white country.

To paraphrase of that old white guy who dared to use, in historical context, the word "******"in his novels, Mark Twain, the news about the demise of the Republican Party are grossly exaggerated by liberal idiots".

 

[JakeStarkey]

The gop is dying of natural causes , old white Christians are shrinking in number and faster as the days go by

R.I.P., GOP: Party of old, disillusioned white people is dying a slow death

R.I.P., GOP: Party of old, disillusioned white people is dying a slow death

Without white people in history you would not be able live in any country that would allow you spew your nonsense.

In a predominantly black country you would be in jail, if you spewed so much and so poisonous crap about blacks as you do about whites in this predominantly white country.

To paraphrase of that old white guy who dared to use, in historical context, the word "******"in his novels, Mark Twain, the news about the demise of the Republican Party are grossly exaggerated by liberal idiots".

Non sequitur.

Our far right extremists do their best to shut down free speech. So do far left extremists.

 

[daws101]

The gop is dying of natural causes , old white Christians are shrinking in number and faster as the days go by

R.I.P., GOP: Party of old, disillusioned white people is dying a slow death

R.I.P., GOP: Party of old, disillusioned white people is dying a slow death

Without white people in history you would not be able live in any country that would allow you spew your nonsense.

In a predominantly black country you would be in jail, if you spewed so much and so poisonous crap about blacks as you do about whites in this predominantly white country.

To paraphrase of that old white guy who dared to use, in historical context, the word "******"in his novels, Mark Twain, the news about the demise of the Republican Party are grossly exaggerated by liberal idiots".

false! race has jackshit to do democracy and freedom .