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Still here, and curious to hear you explain why you don't think Obama's actions made him at least hypocritical.
Don't know what right-wing factions you're referring to, but as a self-proclaimed conservative, I champion the ideas of individual freedom and personal liberty, and believe that every individual should be treated equally in the eyes of the law, regardless of one's race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or age (*assuming we're discussing adults).
First off, Congress has no obligation to pass a bill just because the President desires it to be so.
Secondly, how is this not hypocritical? Please do explain.
“[T]here are those in the immigrants’ rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are [here] illegally with legal status, or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws. … I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision.And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship. And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.”
Jones dont do questions"GOP reaction to Obama's immigration policy proves they are morons.....or just extremely dishonest."
It demonstrates that most on the right are indeed dishonest and ignorant, likely willfully.
There is established and settled precedent of previous presidents taking the same action.
The president's action is in accordance with Federal law authorizing him to use prosecutorial discretion, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996.
And the president's order comports with Constitutional case law recognizing the authority of the Executive to engage in the practice of deferred action with regard to the prosecution and deportation of undocumented immigrants for humanitarian reasons (see Reno v.
American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (1999)).
Consequently the right's opposition to the president's action is subjective and partisan, devoid of merit or fact, motivated solely by conservative animosity toward the president.
oh brother. playing to the choir? well it worked you got ONE atta boy and probably from the Newbie. Now you be his new hero...You should feel proud
i didnt read it.....if i see a Jones.....i guess he calls them "posts".....anyway if i see one i usually just throw one of the "i dont reply" pictures up....the guys a wuss...."GOP reaction to Obama's immigration policy proves they are morons.....or just extremely dishonest."
It demonstrates that most on the right are indeed dishonest and ignorant, likely willfully.
There is established and settled precedent of previous presidents taking the same action.
The president's action is in accordance with Federal law authorizing him to use prosecutorial discretion, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996.
And the president's order comports with Constitutional case law recognizing the authority of the Executive to engage in the practice of deferred action with regard to the prosecution and deportation of undocumented immigrants for humanitarian reasons (see Reno v.
American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (1999)).
Consequently the right's opposition to the president's action is subjective and partisan, devoid of merit or fact, motivated solely by conservative animosity toward the president.
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I'm surprised you read all that. LOL
Jones dont do questions"GOP reaction to Obama's immigration policy proves they are morons.....or just extremely dishonest."
It demonstrates that most on the right are indeed dishonest and ignorant, likely willfully.
There is established and settled precedent of previous presidents taking the same action.
The president's action is in accordance with Federal law authorizing him to use prosecutorial discretion, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996.
And the president's order comports with Constitutional case law recognizing the authority of the Executive to engage in the practice of deferred action with regard to the prosecution and deportation of undocumented immigrants for humanitarian reasons (see Reno v.
American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (1999)).
Consequently the right's opposition to the president's action is subjective and partisan, devoid of merit or fact, motivated solely by conservative animosity toward the president.
oh brother. playing to the choir? well it worked you got ONE atta boy and probably from the Newbie. Now you be his new hero...You should feel proud
i didnt read it.....if i see a Jones.....i guess he calls them "posts".....anyway if i see one i usually just throw one of the "i dont reply" pictures up....the guys a wuss...."GOP reaction to Obama's immigration policy proves they are morons.....or just extremely dishonest."
It demonstrates that most on the right are indeed dishonest and ignorant, likely willfully.
There is established and settled precedent of previous presidents taking the same action.
The president's action is in accordance with Federal law authorizing him to use prosecutorial discretion, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996.
And the president's order comports with Constitutional case law recognizing the authority of the Executive to engage in the practice of deferred action with regard to the prosecution and deportation of undocumented immigrants for humanitarian reasons (see Reno v.
American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (1999)).
Consequently the right's opposition to the president's action is subjective and partisan, devoid of merit or fact, motivated solely by conservative animosity toward the president.
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I'm surprised you read all that. LOL
Well we know you are that stupid so I would just stop where you are..No it does not give him the authority to change the law. obama has already stated that he does not have the authority to do what he has done.
No matter how many times you liars claim that he changed the law, it won't make it true.
He was elected to enforce the laws in the manner he best sees fit given the resources at his disposal. Don't like it? Tough shit. There is absolutely nothing you or anybody else can do about it.
Laugh my ass off.... in the MANNER HE best SEES FIT. You have to be a paid liberal bullshitting troll
NOBODY is that damn stupid
The courts have always given presidents wide latitude when issuing executive orders to deal with undocumented immigrants and they will certainly do so again. Republicans in Congress are acting like this is the first time a president has taken such actions. Presidents have issued over 15,000 executive orders many of them far more controversial than this one. Lincoln issued an order suspending habeas corpus and when the courts declared it unconstitutional, he simply ignore them. Each time a president issues a controversial order, the opposition is outraged issuing those magic words, near and dear to supporters heart, dictator, demi-god, and unconstitutional.There is really nothing republicans can do about the executive order which is why they are so pissed. The executive order puts immigration on center stage. Like healthcare, republicans have never wanted to deal with it.
The stage is set for more repeals of Obamacare, immigration bills that don't address undocumented immigrants, bills that chip away at abortion rights and of course bills to serve their corporate masters such as corporate tax reform, keystone pipeline, etc...
They can try, but Obama can tell them to fuck off with a stroke of a pen.
Deciding to not faithfully execute the law is unconstitutional.
Good luck trying to convince the courts that him deciding focus on deporting criminals is unconstitutional given that he couldn't deport every undocumented immigrant even if he wanted to and thus has no choice to prioritize.
Hossfly said:Great! We can get rid of Congress and the Supreme Court and Ayatollah Obola can run things his way. Next we can all quit work and do away with jobs, go on welfare and food stamps and live in Utopia for ever and ever.
Keep thinking that twice elected President of the United States (ie the head of the executive branch of the government) using his power to determine how to best execute laws makes him a dictator, or is even usual.
The next two years should be fun to watch.
no what I did was write the truth about you.You are stupid.Giving amnesty he most assuredly is
Obama is not "giving amnesty".
Try again.
Once again you demonstrate your complete and utter inability to contribute anything of any value to a thread.
If it wasn't for your hilarious "decelerations" you would be residing in Cyberia.
That sounds good, but the problem remains that the only people he will be deporting are those stupid enough to get caught. None of these criminals will be foolish enough come out of the shadows knowing that their criminal history means a ticket to Mexico.It does not give him authority to change the law.
He must insure the laws are enforced he is not doing that.
Him prioritizing the limited resources he has to execute the laws in the best way he sees fit is not changing the law. It is him doing the job that the American people elected him to do.
Bullshit. He swore to faithfully enforce the law, not pick and choose which ones he likes to enforce.No it does not give him the authority to change the law. obama has already stated that he does not have the authority to do what he has done.
No matter how many times you liars claim that he changed the law, it won't make it true.
He was elected to enforce the laws in the manner he best sees fit given the resources at his disposal. Don't like it? Tough shit. There is absolutely nothing you or anybody else can do about it.
...or just extremely dishonest.
Him using his power as the head of the executive branch to decide how best to execute laws is not unconstitutional, it is him doing his job.
Furthermore, the resources available only allow him to deport so many people. He was already using his executive discretion to prioritize deporting criminals. He wasn't going to deport the millions of people he's promised to protect anyway.
Obama played it perfectly by announcing it like he did. Not only is it a logical and moral policy (that he was already pretty much doing), he's also baited the racist whackos in the GOP to come out strongly against it. If they had any brains at all they would have just ignored him.
Hopefully, they will continue to make a big deal out this and try everything they can to stop it. Should really help their image to go after millions of poor minorities that the President is protecting. And they will look weak and foolish because they don't actually have the power to stop him from doing this. Any challenges with the courts will be tossed out as he actually does have the legitimate power to do it. Even if they somehow pass a bill invalidating it, Obama can just veto it. They could try to remove him from office. I would love to see that but I can't imagine that even they are that stupid.
The next president can change the policy, obviously. I hope whichever clown gets the GOP nomination promises to do just that.
