GOP runs Kansas into ground, another red welfare state.

[The Rabbi]

Kansas may furlough 7,000 state workers as tax-starved coffers run dry

Red states, just say thanks to us blue staters who float you through the hard times.

You're welcome.

More than 7,000 state employees in Kansas would be furloughed on Monday if state lawmakers cannot agree on a new annual budget by midnight on Saturday, state officials said on Friday.

The Kansas House and Senate are trying to make up an estimated $400 million revenue shortfall in the wake of tax cuts engineered by Republican Governor Sam Brownback in recent years.

Republicans can't do math.

 

[The Rabbi]

Kansas may furlough 7,000 state workers as tax-starved coffers run dry

Red states, just say thanks to us blue staters who float you through the hard times.

You're welcome.

More than 7,000 state employees in Kansas would be furloughed on Monday if state lawmakers cannot agree on a new annual budget by midnight on Saturday, state officials said on Friday.

The Kansas House and Senate are trying to make up an estimated $400 million revenue shortfall in the wake of tax cuts engineered by Republican Governor Sam Brownback in recent years.

Republicans can't do math.

Maybe not, but Republicans know more about math than Democrats do about economics

That is a proven fallacy. Whenever Republicans are in control, they fuck the economy up, leaving it for a Dems to fix. The only exception in my lifetime was Reagan, but as I have said many times, Reagan would be thrown out of the party based on today's conservative beliefs. Reagan was a pragmatist first and an ideologue second. Today's Republicans are just ideologues.

Yeah, like California, Connecticut, NY and Illinois. Right? Republicans really fucked those places up. Not like WIsconsin and Ohio.

 

[kaz]

I'm not a liberal

Yeah....

You missed this part when you quoted me.

One thing you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

How did I miss that? It's just more of you parroting the Democratic party. Was I supposed to take you seriously? I'm against the wars and our presence in the middle east and want to slash our military by 1/3 to 1/2 and make it defensive focused. I'm pro-choice, against the war on drugs, pro legal euthanasia, I think prostitution, gambling, gay sodomy and other morality laws should be eliminated. And I argue those regularly on the board. Yet you still call me programmed by Republicans. You're an idiot.

I understand you're very popular though. People like you. At least you told me they do.

 

[kaz]

I'm not a liberal

Yeah....

You missed this part when you quoted me.

One thing you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

Of course they are. Do you think that the 'Party of Personal Responsibility' actually takes responsibility? Of course not. Its always someone else's fault. In fact, the folks LEAST responsible a republican lead state government....are republicans.

Good point. BTW, does Obama own the economy now or is it still W's fault?

 

[quorthon]

Maybe not, but Republicans know more about math than Democrats do about economics

I'd say rather not.

That is a proven fallacy. Whenever Republicans are in control, they fuck the economy up, leaving it for a Dems to fix. The only exception in my lifetime was Reagan, but as I have said many times, Reagan would be thrown out of the party based on today's conservative beliefs. Reagan was a pragmatist first and an ideologue second. Today's Republicans are just ideologues.

Yes, they like to argue. Such an old party and so more opinions they have.

 

[kaz]

I'm not a liberal

Yeah....

You missed this part when you quoted me.

One thing you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

So you are saying its rational for liberals to hate us but not the other way around?

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. He also says he isn't a liberal. And he takes his own crap seriously. You have to just laugh at him

 

[kaz]

Kansas may furlough 7,000 state workers as tax-starved coffers run dry

Red states, just say thanks to us blue staters who float you through the hard times.

You're welcome.

More than 7,000 state employees in Kansas would be furloughed on Monday if state lawmakers cannot agree on a new annual budget by midnight on Saturday, state officials said on Friday.

The Kansas House and Senate are trying to make up an estimated $400 million revenue shortfall in the wake of tax cuts engineered by Republican Governor Sam Brownback in recent years.

Republicans can't do math.

Maybe not, but Republicans know more about math than Democrats do about economics

That is a proven fallacy. Whenever Republicans are in control, they fuck the economy up, leaving it for a Dems to fix. The only exception in my lifetime was Reagan, but as I have said many times, Reagan would be thrown out of the party based on today's conservative beliefs. Reagan was a pragmatist first and an ideologue second. Today's Republicans are just ideologues.

Come again? All I hear is gurgling kool-aid

 

[Dana7360]

Don't try to sell trickle down to me, quit buying that bullshit years ago. The wealthy do not create jobs out of thin air out of the goodness of their heart. They capitalize on demand for goods and services no matter the tax structure.

More importantly, allowing more wealth to flow into the hands of the wealthy does not guarantee they will invest it into the local state economy....more likely in our globalized world they will find some foreign country to make money in and they'll invest their new found wealth into Asia or something. The state probably will never see the money they lose from those tax cuts for the rich.

Republicans need to stop thinking it's still the 1950's.

Yet you're wrong, who saw that coming? Anyway, you are a clown

Well that's a rather weak comeback.....no, I'm right. Your turn.

You could read my other posts too, dim wit

You could actually say a few words to debate my point - tax cuts do not guarantee wealthy people will invest their money into the state economy.

Of course it doesn't.

These stupid conservatives have never taken an economics course nor have they paid any attention to the reality of their extremely irresponsible economic policies.

No business is going to hire someone to just stand around all day doing nothing. The only reason to hire more people is because your business has more work to do than the existing staff can do in a normal work week.

If that's happening that business is having more sales. If that business is having more sales it's making more money and the last thing that business needs is a tax cut.

No business is going to hire someone without there being a need for it no matter how many tax cuts the business owner gets.

That business owner will not invest that money back into the business. As we've seen over and over again, that business owner is going to put that tax cut in their pocket or park it off shore.

Tax cuts for the rich and big business never create jobs. All it does is deny much needed tax revenue to the state.

 

[toxicmedia]

I'm not a liberal

Yeah....

You missed this part when you quoted me.

One thing you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

So you are saying its rational for liberals to hate us but not the other way around?

Of course not, and when did I say that? There are few things I like less than statements like "So you are saying......". Rarely do people characterize what I think accurately in sentences that start that way.

Knowingly or not, you've scratched the surface of a huge problem, though not a new one in politics.

The majority of Republicans don't hate Democrats, and the majority of Democrats don't hate Republicans.

Having said that, on a site like this, full of politics junkies like me, you'll get way more of that than almost anywhere else.

I would like to be able to tell you that I think lefties on this site are way more civil to the righties, than the righties are in return.

I would also like to be able to say that righties lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes, and you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get.

But righties and lefties on this site, the politicians that represent them, and the pundits that yammer about it all are pretty much the same overall.

 

[hipeter924]

If that's happening that business is having more sales. If that business is having more sales it's Tax cuts for the rich and big business never create jobs. All it does is deny much needed tax revenue to the state.

Yep, must be one of the main jokes at the chamber of commerce, that 'tax cuts create jobs'. Also thanks to WikiLeaks we know that the banks view most Americans as stupid serfs - obviously for buying the tax cut and trickle down scam.

 

[toxicmedia]

I'm not a liberal

Yeah....

You missed this part when you quoted me.

One thing you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

How did I miss that? It's just more of you parroting the Democratic party. Was I supposed to take you seriously? I'm against the wars and our presence in the middle east and want to slash our military by 1/3 to 1/2 and make it defensive focused. I'm pro-choice, against the war on drugs, pro legal euthanasia, I think prostitution, gambling, gay sodomy and other morality laws should be eliminated. And I argue those regularly on the board. Yet you still call me programmed by Republicans. You're an idiot.

I understand you're very popular though. People like you. At least you told me they do.

I also am against the wars and our presence in the middle east and want to slash our military by 1/3 to 1/2 and make it defensive focused.

I'm pro-choice, against the war on drugs, pro legal euthanasia,

I think prostitution, gambling, gay sodomy and other morality laws should be eliminated.

And I'm against laws that prohibit gay marriage.

If you're really the "thinker" you claim to be, and not just a cranky person who likes berating people, and being berated...let's talk about the topic.

The KS budget.

Expenditures:

FY 2015 FY 2016 FY 2017

State General Fund ($ 37,153,487) ($27,111,724) ($45,093,770)

All Other Funds ( 74,015,457) ( 21,811,719) ( 11,300,520)

All Funds ($111,168,944) ($48,923,443) ($56,394,290)

Revenues:

FY 2015 FY 2016 FY 2017

State General Fund $ 1,284,000 $ 942,000 $ 1,234,000

All Other Funds -- -- --

All Funds $ 1,284,000 $ 942,000 $ 1,234,000

Kansas Division of the Budget

 

[toxicmedia]

Yeah....

You missed this part when you quoted me.

One thing you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

Of course they are. Do you think that the 'Party of Personal Responsibility' actually takes responsibility? Of course not. Its always someone else's fault. In fact, the folks LEAST responsible a republican lead state government....are republicans.

Good point. BTW, does Obama own the economy now or is it still W's fault?

Neither...it's the fault of the American middle class, which is growing to be obsolete in the global employment marketplace, and economically entitled.

The Stock Market is fine, and there is cash to be invested here, in creating jobs, which is the part of the economy that sucks...but American workers are not the best investment these days.

If politicians say that, they won't get elected, if pundits say that, nobody will subscribe to them

 

[The Rabbi]

More importantly, allowing more wealth to flow into the hands of the wealthy does not guarantee they will invest it into the local state economy....more likely in our globalized world they will find some foreign country to make money in and they'll invest their new found wealth into Asia or something. The state probably will never see the money they lose from those tax cuts for the rich.

Republicans need to stop thinking it's still the 1950's.

Yet you're wrong, who saw that coming? Anyway, you are a clown

Well that's a rather weak comeback.....no, I'm right. Your turn.

You could read my other posts too, dim wit

You could actually say a few words to debate my point - tax cuts do not guarantee wealthy people will invest their money into the state economy.

Of course it doesn't.

These stupid conservatives have never taken an economics course nor have they paid any attention to the reality of their extremely irresponsible economic policies.

No business is going to hire someone to just stand around all day doing nothing. The only reason to hire more people is because your business has more work to do than the existing staff can do in a normal work week.

If that's happening that business is having more sales. If that business is having more sales it's making more money and the last thing that business needs is a tax cut.

No business is going to hire someone without there being a need for it no matter how many tax cuts the business owner gets.

That business owner will not invest that money back into the business. As we've seen over and over again, that business owner is going to put that tax cut in their pocket or park it off shore.

Tax cuts for the rich and big business never create jobs. All it does is deny much needed tax revenue to the state.

You lecturing about economics is just precious. You reveal how little you know about business and how things work.

 

[toxicmedia]

Yeah....

You missed this part when you quoted me.

One thing you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

So you are saying its rational for liberals to hate us but not the other way around?

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. He also says he isn't a liberal. And he takes his own crap seriously. You have to just laugh at him

you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

 

[kaz]

More importantly, allowing more wealth to flow into the hands of the wealthy does not guarantee they will invest it into the local state economy....more likely in our globalized world they will find some foreign country to make money in and they'll invest their new found wealth into Asia or something. The state probably will never see the money they lose from those tax cuts for the rich.

Republicans need to stop thinking it's still the 1950's.

Yet you're wrong, who saw that coming? Anyway, you are a clown

Well that's a rather weak comeback.....no, I'm right. Your turn.

You could read my other posts too, dim wit

You could actually say a few words to debate my point - tax cuts do not guarantee wealthy people will invest their money into the state economy.

Of course it doesn't.

These stupid conservatives have never taken an economics course nor have they paid any attention to the reality of their extremely irresponsible economic policies.

No business is going to hire someone to just stand around all day doing nothing. The only reason to hire more people is because your business has more work to do than the existing staff can do in a normal work week.

If that's happening that business is having more sales. If that business is having more sales it's making more money and the last thing that business needs is a tax cut.

No business is going to hire someone without there being a need for it no matter how many tax cuts the business owner gets.

That business owner will not invest that money back into the business. As we've seen over and over again, that business owner is going to put that tax cut in their pocket or park it off shore.

Tax cuts for the rich and big business never create jobs. All it does is deny much needed tax revenue to the state.

Well done on self identifying as a clown. And gotcha, Pugsley. Businesses having less money doesn't affect our ability to invest in projects and hire people. We pay people with peanuts. What a dumb ass.

And no economics class told you that crap. And I know they don't say that from the economics classes I took when I got my MBA at Michigan in Finance, a branch of economics

 

[kaz]

"So you are saying......". Rarely do people characterize what I think accurately in sentences that start that way

Um...now read this back to yourself...

 

[kaz]

If you're really the "thinker" you claim to be

The very next post!

I never said that, retard

 

[kaz]

You missed this part when you quoted me.

One thing you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

Of course they are. Do you think that the 'Party of Personal Responsibility' actually takes responsibility? Of course not. Its always someone else's fault. In fact, the folks LEAST responsible a republican lead state government....are republicans.

Good point. BTW, does Obama own the economy now or is it still W's fault?

Neither...it's the fault of the American middle class, which is growing to be obsolete in the global employment marketplace, and economically entitled.

The Stock Market is fine, and there is cash to be invested here, in creating jobs, which is the part of the economy that sucks...but American workers are not the best investment these days.

If politicians say that, they won't get elected, if pundits say that, nobody will subscribe to them

Swish, you didn't even understand the question. Skylar did, that's why he ran away and hid

 

[kaz]

You missed this part when you quoted me.

One thing you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

So you are saying its rational for liberals to hate us but not the other way around?

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. He also says he isn't a liberal. And he takes his own crap seriously. You have to just laugh at him

you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

Why is it every time you speak, Nancy Pelosi's lips move?

 

[BluesLegend]

You missed this part when you quoted me.

One thing you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

So you are saying its rational for liberals to hate us but not the other way around?

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. He also says he isn't a liberal. And he takes his own crap seriously. You have to just laugh at him

you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

First off this "you have been programmed" bull shit is your lame ass way of avoiding actually making a counter argument. Most likely because you don't have one. Actions have consequences fool and Democrats are reaping what they have sown.

Democrats choose to be lawless corrupt assholes and I choose to hate them and refuse to work with them, on anything. Democrats cannot be trusted. The lie incessantly. They ignore our laws when it suits them. When they can't win an argument they attack the person's character, demonize, and engage in demagoguery. Why in the hell would we work with them?