Gov. Rick Perry Vetoes ‘Buy American’ Bill

[Kondor3]

A good, strong, sustained, multi-decade -long 'Buy American' campaign on a nationwide basis is the only way that we are ever going to reestablish a formidable manufacturing base in this country.

And I'm talking about abrogating existing trade treaties (including that abortion called NAFTA) and imposing huge frigging tariffs on anything not produced here; tweaked, of course, for a phase-in period of a couple of years, as we strain to wean ourselves off of foreign components used to assemble larger composite products.

I'm a little tired of our own corporatist fat-cats siphoning-off our middle-class manufacturing and support jobs overseas and pocketing the difference in labor costs; reaping the benefits of foreign near-slave wage overhead with none of the blow-back.

It's a little like being Plantation Owners and the buying-public beneficiaries of the output of those Slave Plantations; with the slave-shacks conveniently tucked-away 9,000 or 10,000 miles removed from our sight. We reap the benefits but let somebody else play Massa or Overseer.

But, for me, it's more about the Manufacturing and Support elements of our Middle Class that worry me the most - the Corporatists have been phukking them over for decades now, and we've been letting them get away with it.

If there was ever an aspect of Socialism or Collectivism that I could get behind (even as a decade-or-two -long corrective interim and temporary measure) it would be this one; rebuilding America's manufacturing and support base through whatever means are necessary (nationalizations, eminent domain, taxes and penalties, etc.) to force the greedy phukkers in our corporate boardrooms to play ball and give back to the Middle Class what they so greedily sold-off to the Chinese and the Indians and all that bunch in recent years.

Consequences be damned... I stand with Our People rather than Big Business, in this matter.

And if that means prices skyrocket for a while, and we damage our foreign relations for a while, or suffer a credit-rating disaster as we repudiate some foreign notes and debt here and there and seize ownership of assets pledged against foreign debt, well... so be it... the sooner we get started, the sooner our own People are back in a 'good place', and the sooner we can start patching things up with outsiders.

< takes off Radical hat and sheepishly steps down off soap-box >

 

[blackhawk]

There is already s law like that why would you need two laws that do basically the same thing?

 

[JakeStarkey]

This is the guy who many of the Neo-Cons on here wanted to see become POTUS.

Texas Governor Rick Perry vetoed House Bill 535, commonly referred to as the “Buy Texan, Buy American” bill, after it was approved by the Texas House unanimously.

The bill also passed the Texas Senate by a vote of 23 to 7, making Perry’s potential veto the only big stopping force for the bill not becoming law.

This is the guy who many on here consider a REAL CONSERVATIVE.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry Vetoes ?Buy American? Bill

A real conservative? That last time I checked, he couldn't remember the name of the EPA. Why would you think that? Or are you liberals simply prone to stereotypes?

You know that most Texans see him as ultra conservative ultra social traditionalist.

He's not. He is a skunk.

 

[Mr Natural]

You union bashers are so fucking stupid.

And yet no doubt most of you think yourselves patriots, too, right?

Idiots.

I know, right?

These so called "patriots" bash anything that benefits American workers. They think that American workers are lazy good-for-nothing fuck offs.

Some patriotism.

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And they wonder why they lose elections.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Anybody who opposes the working middle class, the economic engine that finances 2/3ds of our economy, is employed by the enemies of the USA.

 

[Two Thumbs]

This is the guy who many of the Neo-Cons on here wanted to see become POTUS.





This is the guy who many on here consider a REAL CONSERVATIVE.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry Vetoes ?Buy American? Bill

So he vetoed a bill that would 'force' people to buy certain products.

That's is conservatism. If he had signed it, it would have been tyranny

No. It would not force anyone to do anything. This was a matter of state purchases. The government should be doing EXACTLY this – giving large bias to local producers for state purchases. Hell, the consumer should do that as well BUT nothing should force him to. The state on the other hand should be forced to give American products preference when looking to make purchases.

There is this though:

Current law already requires agencies to give preferences to goods produced and grown in Texas. While I support and encourage our agencies to buy goods from Texas businesses, this bill simply does not change current law

This, if true, makes the law nothing but a publicity stunt and vetoing it would not be necessarily wrong though I can’t fathom why he would do so. If not true then he was wrong in vetoing the law.

We live in a free society where everyone is free to compete.

giving preference means people outside of TX have to cut profits to compete with people in tx b/c tx gives it's people an unfair edge.

It shouldn't be a law at all.

 

[Two Thumbs]

So he vetoed a bill that would 'force' people to buy certain products.

That's is conservatism. If he had signed it, it would have been tyranny

No. It would not force anyone to do anything. This was a matter of state purchases. The government should be doing EXACTLY this – giving large bias to local producers for state purchases. Hell, the consumer should do that as well BUT nothing should force him to. The state on the other hand should be forced to give American products preference when looking to make purchases.

There is this though:

Current law already requires agencies to give preferences to goods produced and grown in Texas. While I support and encourage our agencies to buy goods from Texas businesses, this bill simply does not change current law

This, if true, makes the law nothing but a publicity stunt and vetoing it would not be necessarily wrong though I can’t fathom why he would do so. If not true then he was wrong in vetoing the law.

I say you nailed it perfectly. There was no real reason whatsoever for him to veto this bill.

But for some reason these morons tried to turn this into some sort of "union" thing just because one union leader supported it.

The best thing that could happen now is for the GOP controlled Texas legislature to override his idiotic veto. Thank God he wasn't ever elected POTUS.

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There was no reason for the bill to be on his desk since there is a law like it in place

you're just grandstanding

 

[JakeStarkey]

"giving preference means people outside of TX have to cut profits to compete with people in tx b/c tx gives it's people an unfair edge"

Two Thumbs supports NAFTA

 

[DaGoose]

There is already s law like that why would you need two laws that do basically the same thing?

No. It would not force anyone to do anything. This was a matter of state purchases. The government should be doing EXACTLY this – giving large bias to local producers for state purchases. Hell, the consumer should do that as well BUT nothing should force him to. The state on the other hand should be forced to give American products preference when looking to make purchases.

There is this though:

This, if true, makes the law nothing but a publicity stunt and vetoing it would not be necessarily wrong though I can’t fathom why he would do so. If not true then he was wrong in vetoing the law.

I say you nailed it perfectly. There was no real reason whatsoever for him to veto this bill.

But for some reason these morons tried to turn this into some sort of "union" thing just because one union leader supported it.

The best thing that could happen now is for the GOP controlled Texas legislature to override his idiotic veto. Thank God he wasn't ever elected POTUS.

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There was no reason for the bill to be on his desk since there is a law like it in place

you're just grandstanding

As was pointed out already what did he have to gain from vetoing it? What did he have to lose by signing it?

All it did was make him look like an idiot to veto something that passed UNANIMOUSLY in the GOP controlled house.

Simply put....the guy's a nut.

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[S.J.]

Forcing someone to buy a product at the exclusion of others always results in lower quality and higher prices.

 

[TwistedSuze13]

I'm kinda surprised no one has brought in the content of the bill itself, or a link to it.

Here's the link:

Bill Text: TX HB535 | 2013-2014 | 83rd Legislature | Introduced | LegiScan

I saw no mention of unions there specifically, but there are clever ways of doing that.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Forcing someone to buy a product at the exclusion of others always results in lower quality and higher prices.

then you supported Clinton's NAFTA

 

[S.J.]

Forcing someone to buy a product at the exclusion of others always results in lower quality and higher prices.

then you supported Clinton's NAFTA

Is that what I said? No, it's not what I said. Now run along.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You admit that you supported Clinton and NAFTA.

You can tell us if you did not, then you are lying then or now.

Let us know which it is.

 

[S.J.]

You admit that you supported Clinton and NAFTA.

You can tell us if you did not, then you are lying then or now.

Let us know which it is.

Where did I say that? Post it or STFU.

 

[Stephanie]

This is the guy who many of the Neo-Cons on here wanted to see become POTUS.

Texas Governor Rick Perry vetoed House Bill 535, commonly referred to as the &#8220;Buy Texan, Buy American&#8221; bill, after it was approved by the Texas House unanimously.

The bill also passed the Texas Senate by a vote of 23 to 7, making Perry&#8217;s potential veto the only big stopping force for the bill not becoming law.

This is the guy who many on here consider a REAL CONSERVATIVE.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry Vetoes ?Buy American? Bill

and what about all these bills that are JUST A waste of time?
so him vetoing this one PROVES what again..?
good grief.................silly

 

[Stephanie]

so him vetoing this bill would reflect on him being President..?

the dramatics

 

[blackhawk]

This really is classic liberal logic trash Perry for not signing a bill that would have created a law that we already have.

 

[DaGoose]

This is the guy who many of the Neo-Cons on here wanted to see become POTUS.

Texas Governor Rick Perry vetoed House Bill 535, commonly referred to as the &#8220;Buy Texan, Buy American&#8221; bill, after it was approved by the Texas House unanimously.

The bill also passed the Texas Senate by a vote of 23 to 7, making Perry&#8217;s potential veto the only big stopping force for the bill not becoming law.

This is the guy who many on here consider a REAL CONSERVATIVE.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry Vetoes ?Buy American? Bill

and what about all these bills that are JUST A waste of time?
so him vetoing this one PROVES what again..?
good grief.................silly

so him vetoing this bill would reflect on him being President..?

the dramatics

Thanks Stephanie. You didn't let me down. I just knew......

1) That you would chime in

2) That it would go right over your pointy head, and

3) You would author some bullshit post in a lame attempt to contribute.

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[Dot Com]

Key part of the article

like Texas ARL-CIO President Becky Moeller

hmmmmmmm...which is really AFL-CIO......even more interesting......

I used to be a huge buy American fan, until I found out it was just a code word for supporting unions. Fuck them, I hate, hate unions.

This is just a sham to prop up unions, they cant compete and it's their own fault, sucks to be you!!!


It's funny how liberals dont worry about China buying up all of our debt though.....naaaaaaaah, we need all those bs goverment programs.

Hey fuckface, in case you didn't notice this bill was supported UNANIMOUSLY by the GOP controlled Texas house in probably the most red state in the union.

And since you know so little about unions let me explain something to you. Organized labor only makes up about 6% of private sector employment.

I happen to think that American workers (union or not) are the best in the world.

So fuck you and your "I hate American workers" attitude.

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buckeye45_73 is one of the biggest Republicorp tools on the board. No surprise there. Compete w/ $2/hr foreign labor