Great news on abortion!

[Yarddog]

Kansas voted. Idaho did as well. Idaho chose to outlaw murder. How do you figure you have the right to disenfranchise those voters in Idaho the right to determine their path? Fucking idiot.

People like this are happy when voters choose whatever is Their opinion on abortion, and then its all great! but then when a majority holds a different view, suddenly it becomes men imposing their will over women!
an outrage! Yet they constantly deny the fact that there are millions upon millions of women who oppose abortion or parts of it such as late term. With these loons its all or nothing. They dont even understand or accept the concept of The United States of America aparently

 

[Yarddog]

That is the way it should be. Let the states decide. The Federal government has no business fucking with it. Non-issue.

This is obviously to difficult for him. Too invested in winning some idiotic argument to see people are getting exactly what they want...and Trump never banned anything.

 

[Concerned American]

And you Christian Nationalist extremists fought to keep it off the ballot. Demonstrating elegantly that you KNOW your delusional nonsense that the people support abortion bans is blithering fantasy.

The people support abortion rights by broad majorities. When they get to vote on the matter, they vote to protect abortion access.

Says who? Says Michigan. Says Kansas. Says Vermont.

The people don't want your Christian Sharia.

Even in Florida, nearly 70% are supporting a restoration of abortion access.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4801375-florida-abortion-ballot-initiative/

And those people decided for themselves without any interference from YOU. Murderer.

 

[Skylar]

People like this are happy when voters choose whatever is Their opinion on abortion, and then its all great! but then when a majority holds a different view, suddenly it becomes men imposing their will over women!
an outrage! Yet they constantly deny the fact that there are millions upon millions of women who oppose abortion or parts of it such as late term. With these loons its all or nothing. They dont even understand or accept the concept of The United States of America aparently

When did the people in Idaho vote on abortion access?

 

[Skylar]

And those people decided for themselves without any interference from YOU. Murderer.

They voted to REJECT your extremist Christian Sharia, and protect abortion access. With the people of Arizona, Montana, Florida, Missouri, Nevada and others fighting your ilk to get those measures on the ballot so abortion access can be restored or protected in those states.

With your ilk fighting them at every step.

Demonstrating elegantly that 1) The people clearly don't support abortion bans 2) Your ilk knows the people don't support abortion bans, as you fight tooth and nail to prevent the people from being able to vote on abortion access.

Christian nationalism is rejected by the American people.

 

[Lastamender]

Then why are the Christian Nationalist Extremists fighting so hard to keep the voters in these states from deciding?

If they genuinely believed that the people were on their side, wouldn't they be fighting to put the issue ON the ballot, rather than doing everything they can to keep it OFF?

They know the people aren't with them on this issue.

You have no fucking idea what they know.

 

[initforme]

You're living in denial. Just because you believe murder should be legal doesn't mean that "most" people do. "Most" people in my state abhor murder.

Let the voters in each state decide and accept it. Move on.

 

[Skylar]

You have no fucking idea what they know.

They show us what they know by what the oppose. And the Christian nationalists fight fight tooth and nail to prevent the people from voting on abortion, trying to get it thrown off the ballot.

They know that the people don't support them. They know that when the people get to vote on abortion access, they vote to protect it.

Says who? Says Michigan. Says Vermont. Says fucking Kansas.

 

[Lastamender]

They show us what they know by what the oppose. And the Christian nationalists fight fight tooth and nail to prevent the people from voting on abortion, trying to get it thrown off the ballot.

They know that the people don't support them. They know that when the people get to vote on abortion access, they vote to protect it.

Says who? Says Michigan. Says Vermont. Says fucking Kansas.

I do not trust any vote in MI.

 

[Concerned American]

Let the voters in each state decide and accept it. Move on.

Tell that to Skylar--he seems to be the only one here that is opposed to states having the right to determine their own path.

 

[initforme]

Tell that to Skylar--he seems to be the only one here that is opposed to states having the right to determine their own path.

Nobody loses with the voters deciding.

 

[Yarddog]

When did the people in Idaho vote on abortion access?

Thres still som ethings probably that need to balance out betwen courts and the state, but the idea is absolutely correct over all. Vote to determine this policy. On the other hand there might be some federal laws still in place due to emergency situations... Im not really an expert on what happens in every state.
I just support peoples right to choose within their own state. And keep in mind, a state CANNOT or should not be able to prevent a woman from crossing state lines if she wants an abortion in a state that has a different law.

 

[Skylar]

I do not trust any vote in MI.

Smiling.....so its all a conspiracy, huh?

Yeah, when you can't measure up, invent a conspiracy about the measuring stick.

 

[Concerned American]

Says who? Says Michigan. Says Vermont. Says fucking Kansas.

And what is your opposition to those states deciding for themselves without any input from you and your disingenuous attempt to label Christians and Nationalists as somehow not being American patriots. Another democrat attempt to redefine a simple English word.

 

[Skylar]

Thres still som ethings probably that need to balance out betwen courts and the state, but the idea is absolutely correct over all. Vote to determine this policy. On the other hand there might be some federal laws still in place due to emergency situations... Im not really an expert on what happens in every state.
I just support peoples right to choose within their own state. And keep in mind, a state CANNOT or should not be able to prevent a woman from crossing state lines if she wants an abortion in a state that has a different law.

So when did the people vote on abortion access in Idaho? Idaho Trigger Law 18-608 wasn't passed by any direct vote of the people. But instead, by the Idaho legislature.

There are Idaho citizens trying to get abortion access on the ballot. But the earliest they'd be able to succeed would be 2026.

I can tell you when the people of Michigan got to vote on it. When the people of Kansas did. When the people of Vermont did. I can tell you when the people of Arizona, Florida, Nevada, and Missouri will.

 

[Lastamender]

Smiling.....so its all a conspiracy, huh?

Yeah, when you can't measure up, invent a conspiracy about the measuring stick.

No not at all. It has been proven the FBI handed the fraud investigation of illegal registrations over to the SOS. Nothing was done. Fact.

 

[Skylar]

And what is your opposition to those states deciding for themselves without any input from you and your disingenuous attempt to label Christians and Nationalists as somehow not being American patriots. Another democrat attempt to redefine a simple English word.

Again, it demonstrates your delusion, your lies, or both. You KNOW that the people support abortion access. By broad majorities

You KNOW when given the chance the people vote for abortion access.

No one gives a fiddler's fuck how YOU define abortion. You're nobody. They care how THEY define abortion. And given the choice, the people support abortion access by broad margins. Its not even close. For fuck's sake, in Florida, support for the restoration of abortion access is almost 70%.

Which is why your ilk fight voter access to such ballot measures and try to get them tossed. The American people don't support your extreme Christian Nationalist agenda.

 

[initforme]

Roe is gone as many wanted. What more do they want? It's getting old.

 

[Skylar]

No not at all. It has been proven the FBI handed the fraud investigation of illegal registrations over to the SOS. Nothing was done. Fact.

And by 'proven', you mean you just making shit up.

Remember when you said it was 'proven' that Trump won in 2020. And yet when I asked you what the actual vote totals were.....with evidence, you had nothing.

Your imagination isn't evidence of anything. While the voters in Michigan are a clear demonstration that when given the chance to vote on abortion access, the people support it.

 

[Concerned American]

The American people

How would you know. You are no American. American's believe that states have the right to determine their own way. You keep saying "most Americans" but the response on this thread shows overwhelmingly that MOST AMERICANS and the SCOTUS believe that states rights reign supreme in spite of your dictatorial views.