Great news on abortion!

[HikerGuy83]

Abortion measures could be on Arizona and Nebraska ballots after organizers submit signatures

Arizona and Nebraska organizers have turned in enough signatures to get abortion-related questions before their states' voters in November.

apnews.com

This is great news for the vast majority of Americans who support not only a woman's right to choose, but also her right to proper health care. The vast majority of abortion opponents could care less about a newborn. They want to see a woman punished who gets pregnant by accident. In their radical minds, sex is only for childbirth.

Changing state constitutions to protect abortion rights is going to spread like wildfire, and will keep the issue out of the far right court systems.

Dang....

I thought this was news that you were being aborted.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I said nothing about being a victim. I was entirely logical

The actual victims are those you want to kill when they are too helpless to resist.

Don't buy into the troll.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

What's it to you, moron? You aren't an American.

Why are they so keen not to have a vote ? Old men should not control womens bodies.

 

[initforme]

The Alabama supreme court just voted to deny the question going to voters.
They are desperate not to have this issue voted on.
Sick fucks.

If the voters had a legal petition with enough signatures then it cannot be kept off the ballot.

 

[Concerned American]

Why are they so keen not to have a vote ? Old men should not control womens bodies.

None of your business, busybody. Take care of your own country. Oh yeah, the king tells you what to do.

 

[Skylar]

Why are they so keen not to have a vote ? Old men should not control womens bodies.

Because they know that their Christian Nationalist horseshit is deeply unpopular and the people don't want it.

 

[Concerned American]

Because they know that their Christian Nationalist horseshit is deeply unpopular and the people don't want it.

Democrats want it because they would like to legalize MURDER. Hmmm, maybe we should consider post birth abortion on you.

 

[Skylar]

Democrats want it because they would like to legalize MURDER. Hmmm, maybe we should consider post birth abortion on you.

Its not just the democrats that want abortion to be legal. Its most people.

There's a reason why Christian Nationalists are doing everything in their power to strip the people of their voice on the issue and FORCE it on them against their will.

When people get to vote, they've pretty consistently voted to make it legal. Where as you extremists don't even make exceptions for child rape survivors.

No thank you to your Christian Sharia.

 

[Concerned American]

Its not just the democrats that want abortion to be legal. Its most people.

You're living in denial. Just because you believe murder should be legal doesn't mean that "most" people do. "Most" people in my state abhor murder.

 

[Skylar]

You're living in denial. Just because you believe murder should be legal doesn't mean that "most" people do. "Most" people in my state abhor murder.

No, you consider abortion murder. Then like a toddler standing in front of a TV and assuming if he can see the TV, so can everyone else....insist that because you do, everyone else does.

Sorry, but most people support abortion being legal:

Public Opinion on Abortion

While public support for legal abortion has fluctuated some in two decades of polling, it has remained relatively stable over the past five years.

www.pewresearch.org

You extremist Christian Nationalists know this. You know that the public doesn't support your forcing child rape survivors to have their rapist's babies. You know that the people support abortion rights.

How do we know you know?

Because you Christian nationalist extremists fight so hard to keep the people from ever being able to vote directly on the matter. When the people get to vote on abortion rights, you lose. Demonstrating elegantly the absurdity of your delusion AND your knowledge of your own lies.

No thank you.

 

[Concerned American]

Sorry, but most people support abortion being legal:

You can keep bleating the same line you've been told, but it won't change a thing. Yawn.

 

[Skylar]

You can keep bleating the same line you've been told, but it won't change a thing. Yawn.

Laughing......if you genuinely believed that the people thought abortion was murder and overwhelmingly opposed it, you Christian Nationalists wouldn't be fighting so hard to prevent the people from voting on abortion rights.

You know you're full of shit. You know when the people get to vote, you lose. You know the people don't support your extremist agenda, and do support abortion rights be nearly a super majority.

Voters in Kansas decide to keep abortion legal in the state, rejecting an amendment​

Even in Kansas. KANSAS. Its not even close.

Michigan voters got a chance, Michigan voters protect abortion rights.

Vermont voters got the chance, Vermont voters protect abortion rights.

Nevada voters will get the chance to vote this year on abortion access due to citizen support. Arizona voters will get the chance to vote this year on abortion access. Colorado voters will get the chance to vote this year on abortion access. Montana. South Dakota. Protecting abortion access is even leading in FLORIDA.

 

[Lastamender]

Laughing......if you genuinely believed that the people thought abortion was murder and overwhelmingly opposed it, you Christian Nationalists wouldn't be fighting so hard to prevent the people from voting on abortion rights.

You know you're full of shit. You know when the people get to vote, you lose. You know the people don't support your extremist agenda, and do support abortion rights be nearly a super majority.

Voters in Kansas decide to keep abortion legal in the state, rejecting an amendment​

Even in Kansas. KANSAS. Its not even close.

That is the way it should be. Let the states decide. The Federal government has no business fucking with it. Non-issue.

 

[Concerned American]

you Christian Nationalists wouldn't be fighting so hard to prevent the people from voting on abortion rights.

First, what is your problem with Christians? Second, have you got a problem with American patriots--that is another term for Nationalist. And third, I know you're a democrat--you lie incessantly. The democrat party is the one decrying the rights of states to vote for their own policies opting instead for the likes of NYC, LA, Chicago and those population centers to dictate to the rest of the nation. You only seem to be concerned with voter's rights when you are trying to disenfranchise the majority of the nation. Now STFU and run along, you're a moron.

 

[Skylar]

That is the way it should be. Let the states decide. The Federal government has no business fucking with it. Non-issue.

Then why are the Christian Nationalist Extremists fighting so hard to keep the voters in these states from deciding?

If they genuinely believed that the people were on their side, wouldn't they be fighting to put the issue ON the ballot, rather than doing everything they can to keep it OFF?

They know the people aren't with them on this issue.

 

[Yarddog]

Has there been a state where it was allowed on the ballot that less strict abortion laws were not favored by the voters?

Seems every time it can be on the ballot it passes

thats the way its suppossed to work. The voters decide. Now you can THANK TRUMP. The fact that its no longer in the hands of 9 people with black robes means that when abortion policy passes dure to popular vote, there is no more question in that state.

 

[Concerned American]

You know when the people get to vote, you lose.

Kansas voted. Idaho did as well. Idaho chose to outlaw murder. How do you figure you have the right to disenfranchise those voters in Idaho the right to determine their path? Fucking idiot.

 

[Skylar]

First, what is your problem with Christians? Second, have you got a problem with American patriots--that is another term for Nationalist. And third, I know you're a democrat--you lie incessantly. The democrat party is the one decrying the rights of states to vote for their own policies opting instead for the likes of NYC, LA, Chicago and those population centers to dictate to the rest of the nation. You only seem to be concerned with voter's rights when you are trying to disenfranchise the majority of the nation. Now STFU and run along, you're a moron.

I have no problem with Christians. I have a problem with Christian nationalists. Christianity is about radical love. Christian nationalism is about power and control. Forcing people against their will to abide the more extremist interpretations of Christianity.

The people don't want Christian Nationalism. Its why Project 2025 bounced so hard once it became clear that it was a Christian Nationalist blue print.

Americans clearly support abortion access in overwhelming majorities. And when the people are allowed to vote on the issue, they vote for abortion rights.

You know this. Which is why you Christian Nationalists fight so hard to keep these measures off the ballot. When the people get to vote, abortion rights win. Christian nationalists lose.

 

[Concerned American]

If they genuinely believed that the people were on their side, wouldn't they be fighting to put the issue ON the ballot, rather than doing everything they can to keep it OFF?

It is on the ballot in THEIR states, moron. By making a national law to legalize murder, you are keeping it off of state's ballots. Anyone with an IQ over their age can understand that. Your problem is obvious.

 

[Skylar]

It is on the ballot in THEIR states, moron. By making a national law to legalize murder, you are keeping it off of state's ballots. Anyone with an IQ over their age can understand that. Your problem is obvious.
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And you Christian Nationalist extremists fought to keep it off the ballot. Demonstrating elegantly that you KNOW your delusional nonsense that the people support abortion bans is blithering fantasy.

The people support abortion rights by broad majorities. When they get to vote on the matter, they vote to protect abortion access.

Says who? Says Michigan. Says Kansas. Says Vermont.

The people don't want your Christian Sharia.

Even in Florida, nearly 70% are supporting a restoration of abortion access.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4801375-florida-abortion-ballot-initiative/